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    D-II/D-III/NAIA over FCS Scalp Watch 2023

    Hero Sports stopped publishing a non-D-I game list for the FCS this season, so if you guys help me with finding a new list, post the link here.

    So, will the PFL become the scapegoats of top-ranked NAIA and D-II teams once again this season?
    All the Ivy League needs to become relevant again is to diversify its OOC schedule.

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    Re: D-II/D-III/NAIA over FCS Scalp Watch 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by bonarae View Post
    Hero Sports stopped publishing a non-D-I game list for the FCS this season, so if you guys help me with finding a new list, post the link here.

    So, will the PFL become the scapegoats of top-ranked NAIA and D-II teams once again this season?
    https://herosports.com/fcs-football-...d1-games-bzbz/
    FCS vs. Non-D1 Games In 2023
    by Sam Herder
    May 10, 2023

    Week 1

    North Greenville (D2) at Charleston Southern
    Shorter (D2) at Samford
    UW-Stevens Point (D3) at Lindenwood
    Western Oregon (D2) at South Dakota State
    Central Washington (D2) at Weber State
    West Virginia State (D2) at Morehead State
    Tusculum (D2) at Kennesaw State (FBS-transitioning)
    Virginia State (D2) at Norfolk State
    St. Thomas (FL) (NAIA) at Stetson
    Arkansas Baptist (NAIA) at Houston Christian
    Edinboro (D2) at Duquesne
    American International (D2) at CCSU
    Winston-Salem State (D2) at NC Central
    Bowie State (D2) at Delaware State
    Central State (D2) vs. Mississippi Valley State (Chicago, IL)
    Black Hills State (D2) at St. Thomas
    Week 2
    Central State (D2) at Dayton
    Taylor (NAIA) at Butler
    Miles College (D2) at Alabama State
    Barton (D2) at Davidson
    Northwestern (IA) (NAIA) at Drake
    Texas College (NAIA) at Central Arkansas
    Valparaiso at Indiana Wesleyan (NAIA)
    Webber International University (NAIA) at Stetson
    Virginia-Lynchburg (NCCAA) at Presbyterian
    Carson-Newman (D2) at ETSU
    Savannah State (D2) at Bethune-Cookman
    Lane College (D2) at Alabama A&M
    Morehouse (D2) at Howard
    Colorado Mesa (D2) at San Diego
    Week 3
    Taylor (NAIA) at Dayton
    Wabash (D3) at Butler
    Miles College (D2) at Arkansas-Pine Bluff
    North American (NAIA) at Portland State
    Ferris State (D2) at Montana
    West Florida (D2) at Florida A&M
    Virginia-Lynchburg (NCCAA) at Merrimack
    Florida Memorial (NAIA) at Grambling State
    Lincoln (CA) (D2) at Cal Poly
    Week 4
    St. Andrews (NAIA) at Davidson
    Virginia-Lynchburg (NCCAA) at Robert Morris
    Lincoln (CA) (D2) at Lamar
    Southwest Baptist (D2) at Tarleton State
    North American (NAIA) at UIW
    Week 5
    Southwest Minnesota State (D2) at Valparaiso
    Virginia-Lynchburg (NCCAA) at Delaware State
    Lincoln (CA) (D2) at Texas Southern
    Tuskegee (D2) at Alabama A&M
    Week 6 - Virginia-Lynchburg (NCCAA) at SC State
    Week 7 - Lincoln (CA) (D2) at Southern
    Week 8 - Lincoln (CA) (D2) at Tennessee State
    Week 9 - Lincoln (CA) (D2) at Kennesaw State (FBS-transitioning)
    Week 10 - Lincoln (CA) (D2) at Southern Utah
    Week 11
    Virginia-Lynchburg (NCCAA) at Kennesaw State (FBS-transitioning)
    Lincoln (CA) (D2) at Florida A&M
    Week 12 - Post (D2) at Wagner
    Week 13 - Tuskegee (D2) at Alabama State


    63 Schollie / Playoff (fully) Participating FCS Conferences

    1 - Big Sky - 5 | 0.42 / Team
    2 - BS/OVC - 4 | 0.40 / Team
    3 - Southland - 3 | 0.38 / Team
    4T - SoCon - 2 | 0.22 / Team
    4T - UAC - 2 | 0.22 / Team
    6 - MVFC - 1 | 0.08 / Team
    7 - CAA - 0 | 0.00 / Team

    Other FCS Conferences
    1 - Independent (Kennesaw - Transitioning) - 3 | 3.00 / Team
    2 - PFL - 15 | 1.36 / Team
    3T - MEAC - 6 | 1.00 / Team
    3T - SWAC - 12 | 1.00 / Team

    5 - NEC - 4 | 0.50 / Team
    6T - Ivy - 0 | 0.00 / Team
    6T - Patriot - 0 | 0.00 / Team

    Who knew Big Sky Teams, that often don’t face the Top Teams in their own Conference, also ‘lead the way’ in playing lower division Teams? (FUBeAR did)

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    Re: D-II/D-III/NAIA over FCS Scalp Watch 2023

    Decent to good chance the non-FCS wins, IMO.

    Week 1
    West Virginia State (D2) at Morehead State
    Virginia State (D2) at Norfolk State
    American International (D2) at CCSU
    Bowie State (D2) at Delaware State
    Central State (D2) vs. Mississippi Valley State (Chicago, IL)
    Black Hills State (D2) at St. Thomas
    Week 2
    Taylor (NAIA) at Butler
    Northwestern (IA) (NAIA) at Drake
    Valparaiso at Indiana Wesleyan (NAIA)
    Webber International University (NAIA) at Stetson
    Colorado Mesa (D2) at San Diego
    Week 5
    Southwest Minnesota State (D2) at Valparaiso
    Tuskegee (D2) at Alabama A&M
    Week 13
    Tuskegee (D2) at Alabama State
    Week 1
    West Virginia State (D2) at Morehead State
    Virginia State (D2) at Norfolk State
    American International (D2) at CCSU
    Bowie State (D2) at Delaware State
    Central State (D2) vs. Mississippi Valley State (Chicago, IL)
    Black Hills State (D2) at St. Thomas
    Week 2
    Taylor (NAIA) at Butler
    Northwestern (IA) (NAIA) at Drake
    Valparaiso at Indiana Wesleyan (NAIA)
    Webber International University (NAIA) at Stetson
    Colorado Mesa (D2) at San Diego
    Week 5
    Southwest Minnesota State (D2) at Valparaiso
    Tuskegee (D2) at Alabama A&M
    Week 13
    Tuskegee (D2) at Alabama State

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    Re: D-II/D-III/NAIA over FCS Scalp Watch 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by FUBeAR View Post
    https://herosports.com/fcs-football-...d1-games-bzbz/
    FCS vs. Non-D1 Games In 2023
    by Sam Herder
    May 10, 2023

    Week 1

    North Greenville (D2) at Charleston Southern
    Shorter (D2) at Samford
    UW-Stevens Point (D3) at Lindenwood
    Western Oregon (D2) at South Dakota State
    Central Washington (D2) at Weber State
    West Virginia State (D2) at Morehead State
    Tusculum (D2) at Kennesaw State (FBS-transitioning)
    Virginia State (D2) at Norfolk State
    St. Thomas (FL) (NAIA) at Stetson
    Arkansas Baptist (NAIA) at Houston Christian
    Edinboro (D2) at Duquesne
    American International (D2) at CCSU
    Winston-Salem State (D2) at NC Central
    Bowie State (D2) at Delaware State
    Central State (D2) vs. Mississippi Valley State (Chicago, IL)
    Black Hills State (D2) at St. Thomas
    Week 2
    Central State (D2) at Dayton
    Taylor (NAIA) at Butler
    Miles College (D2) at Alabama State
    Barton (D2) at Davidson
    Northwestern (IA) (NAIA) at Drake
    Texas College (NAIA) at Central Arkansas
    Valparaiso at Indiana Wesleyan (NAIA)
    Webber International University (NAIA) at Stetson
    Virginia-Lynchburg (NCCAA) at Presbyterian
    Carson-Newman (D2) at ETSU
    Savannah State (D2) at Bethune-Cookman
    Lane College (D2) at Alabama A&M
    Morehouse (D2) at Howard
    Colorado Mesa (D2) at San Diego
    Week 3
    Taylor (NAIA) at Dayton
    Wabash (D3) at Butler
    Miles College (D2) at Arkansas-Pine Bluff
    North American (NAIA) at Portland State
    Ferris State (D2) at Montana
    West Florida (D2) at Florida A&M
    Virginia-Lynchburg (NCCAA) at Merrimack
    Florida Memorial (NAIA) at Grambling State
    Lincoln (CA) (D2) at Cal Poly
    Week 4
    St. Andrews (NAIA) at Davidson
    Virginia-Lynchburg (NCCAA) at Robert Morris
    Lincoln (CA) (D2) at Lamar
    Southwest Baptist (D2) at Tarleton State
    North American (NAIA) at UIW
    Week 5
    Southwest Minnesota State (D2) at Valparaiso
    Virginia-Lynchburg (NCCAA) at Delaware State
    Lincoln (CA) (D2) at Texas Southern
    Tuskegee (D2) at Alabama A&M
    Week 6 - Virginia-Lynchburg (NCCAA) at SC State
    Week 7 - Lincoln (CA) (D2) at Southern
    Week 8 - Lincoln (CA) (D2) at Tennessee State
    Week 9 - Lincoln (CA) (D2) at Kennesaw State (FBS-transitioning)
    Week 10 - Lincoln (CA) (D2) at Southern Utah
    Week 11
    Virginia-Lynchburg (NCCAA) at Kennesaw State (FBS-transitioning)
    Lincoln (CA) (D2) at Florida A&M
    Week 12 - Post (D2) at Wagner
    Week 13 - Tuskegee (D2) at Alabama State


    63 Schollie / Playoff (fully) Participating FCS Conferences

    1 - Big Sky - 5 | 0.42 / Team
    2 - BS/OVC - 4 | 0.40 / Team
    3 - Southland - 3 | 0.38 / Team
    4T - SoCon - 2 | 0.22 / Team
    4T - UAC - 2 | 0.22 / Team
    6 - MVFC - 1 | 0.08 / Team
    7 - CAA - 0 | 0.00 / Team

    Other FCS Conferences
    1 - Independent (Kennesaw - Transitioning) - 3 | 3.00 / Team
    2 - PFL - 15 | 1.36 / Team
    3T - MEAC - 6 | 1.00 / Team
    3T - SWAC - 12 | 1.00 / Team

    5 - NEC - 4 | 0.50 / Team
    6T - Ivy - 0 | 0.00 / Team
    6T - Patriot - 0 | 0.00 / Team

    Who knew Big Sky Teams, that often don’t face the Top Teams in their own Conference, also ‘lead the way’ in playing lower division Teams? (FUBeAR did)


    There's actually a decent amount of stuff to talk about regarding this list.

    1. FuBEAR you are correct, I'm not sure why Big Sky would lead the way on this and it is a bad look for their conference.
    2. WHY is Kennesaw State playing 3, when it is transitioning to the FBS? Seems like a bad idea will make the harder SoS next year even more shocking.
    3. If I read that list correctly Valpo is playing AT an NAIA school week 2? That is wild
    4. Lincoln CA (D2) plays a total of 8 games against D1 schools (FCS / FBS transitioning). Has to be one of the hardest SoS in D2. They play 1 NAIA team, 8 D1 teams and then only 2 D2 teams...

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    Re: D-II/D-III/NAIA over FCS Scalp Watch 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by The Yo Show View Post
    There's actually a decent amount of stuff to talk about regarding this list.

    1. FuBEAR you are correct, I'm not sure why Big Sky would lead the way on this and it is a bad look for their conference.
    2. WHY is Kennesaw State playing 3, when it is transitioning to the FBS? Seems like a bad idea will make the harder SoS next year even more shocking.
    3. If I read that list correctly Valpo is playing AT an NAIA school week 2? That is wild
    4. Lincoln CA (D2) plays a total of 8 games against D1 schools (FCS / FBS transitioning). Has to be one of the hardest SoS in D2. They play 1 NAIA team, 8 D1 teams and then only 2 D2 teams...
    1) Big Sky Teams have it figured out… >Wins = > Playoff Selections + Higher Seeds. Ain’t nobody studyin’ strength of schedule; the Playoff Selection Committee dang sure ain’t, despite what they say. It’s all a sham. Wish the Committee would figure out the Big Sky the way the Big Sky has figured out ‘the game.’

    2) Just speculatin’ on the owlets - As their FCS Conferences have blown up and all of those Teams were scrambling to fill their dance cards with games in their new conferences…and don’t think Teams were that excited about playing a non-money game against an 85 schollie ‘FCS’ Team…particularly on the road. Believe the games against Chatt and FU were already scheduled OOC games for these SoCon Teams. FUBeAR expects the owlets to Redshirt a slew of Players, but those Players still get 4 games - would expect that Chatt, FU, Tennessee State, and SHSU will get the owlets’ best…while the rest of the games will be played with deep backups. It’s messy - and ugly … but nobody goes to their games and no one cares about them anyway - so their hideous schedule is a tree falling in a deep, uninhabited forest. Maybe they’ll do better in 2024 when they are BIG TIME!!!
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    Re: D-II/D-III/NAIA over FCS Scalp Watch 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by FUBeAR View Post
    1) Big Sky Teams have it figured out… >Wins = > Playoff Selections + Higher Seeds. Ain’t nobody studyin’ strength of schedule; the Playoff Selection Committee dang sure ain’t, despite what they say. It’s all a sham. Wish the Committee would figure out the Big Sky the way the Big Sky has figured out ‘the game.’

    2) Just speculatin’ on the owlets - As their FCS Conferences have blown up and all of those Teams were scrambling to fill their dance cards with games in their new conferences…and don’t think Teams were that excited about playing a non-money game against an 85 schollie ‘FCS’ Team…particularly on the road. Believe the games against Chatt and FU were already scheduled OOC games for these SoCon Teams. FUBeAR expects the owlets to Redshirt a slew of Players, but those Players still get 4 games - would expect that Chatt, FU, Tennessee State, and SHSU will get the owlets’ best…while the rest of the games will be played with deep backups. It’s messy - and ugly … but nobody goes to their games and no one cares about them anyway - so their hideous schedule is a tree falling in a deep, uninhabited forest. Maybe they’ll do better in 2024 when they are BIG TIME!!!
    First, I only see 4 BSC teams playing down: CWU @ Weber, North American @ Portland State, Ferris State @ Montana and Lincoln @ Cal Poly. Who am I missing? Or are you forgetting that Southern Utah joined the WAC for 2022? If I'm not missing any, that works out to .33/team and drops them to T-3rd on the list with UAC, which actually has 3 games against lower divisions.

    Next, FUBeAR can rest easy that 2 of those teams (PSU and CP) haven't been and likely won't be sniffing the playoffs. Beating perennial D-II power and 2x defending champ Ferris St. should definitely add to one's SOS. Weber is a bit of an unknown, IMO. They lost a ton of production and a pretty good HC. I can see them finishing 6-5 with a D-II win pretty easily, losing @UNI, @Utah, vs MSU, vs UC Davis, and vs Idaho. Weber also offset the easy win against CWU for a sure loss against Utah, so if they scheduled in order to make the playoffs... they did it wrong, especially considering their other OOC game is @UNI. But tell me more about how the Big Sky scheduled lower division games for more playoff selections.

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    Re: D-II/D-III/NAIA over FCS Scalp Watch 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by MSUBobcat View Post
    First, I only see 4 BSC teams playing down: CWU @ Weber, North American @ Portland State, Ferris State @ Montana and Lincoln @ Cal Poly. Who am I missing? Or are you forgetting that Southern Utah joined the WAC for 2022? If I'm not missing any, that works out to .33/team and drops them to T-3rd on the list with UAC, which actually has 3 games against lower divisions.

    Next, FUBeAR can rest easy that 2 of those teams (PSU and CP) haven't been and likely won't be sniffing the playoffs. Beating perennial D-II power and 2x defending champ Ferris St. should definitely add to one's SOS. Weber is a bit of an unknown, IMO. They lost a ton of production and a pretty good HC. I can see them finishing 6-5 with a D-II win pretty easily, losing @UNI, @Utah, vs MSU, vs UC Davis, and vs Idaho. Weber also offset the easy win against CWU for a sure loss against Utah, so if they scheduled in order to make the playoffs... they did it wrong, especially considering their other OOC game is @UNI. But tell me more about how the Big Sky scheduled lower division games for more playoff selections.
    Yeah - looked at old standings to pick up S.UT. They are UAC. Ur right on that one point…

    Corrected list…

    63 Schollie / Playoff (fully) Participating FCS Conferences
    1 - BS/OVC - 4 | 0.40 / Team
    2 - Southland - 3 | 0.38 / Team
    3T - Big Sky - 4 | 0.33 / Team
    3T - UAC - 3 | 0.33 / Team
    5 - SoCon - 2 | 0.22 / Team
    6 - MVFC - 1 | 0.08 / Team
    7 - CAA - 0 | 0.00 / Team
    But…looking for ‘extra credit’ for your hated Griz for scheduling a 36 Schollie Team…um…No…just No.

    And, FUBeAR never counts a Big Sky Team out of Playoff consideration. Seems just yesterday that Cal Poly was in the Playoffs losing to a non-scholarship Team … or maybe that was Northern Arizona losing to a non-scholarship Team. It’s difficult to keep the many Big Sky Playoff flame-outs straight.

    But FUBeAR’s expectation is always that all 12 Big Sky Teams will be selected for the Playoff Field and the Committee will find a way to seed all 12 in the Top 8. That way, when the BSC only gets 10 in with 7 Seeds, FUBeAR is less enraged.

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    Re: D-II/D-III/NAIA over FCS Scalp Watch 2023

    I think PC has the best chance of stumbling against Virginia Lynchburg. They only beat them last year by 8, for their only win, and was otherwise quite awful. I don't know what kind of financial mishaps Virginia Lynchburg is in but they seem to be playing nothing but D1 games and D2 games against decent teams. Now that I'm looking at it, Lynchburg doesn't even look like it's NAIA? I'm have a hard time deducing this one. They're NCCAA, which has to be a step down from NAIA.

    Anyway, that game should be the equivalent of two mules fighting for a turnip

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    Re: D-II/D-III/NAIA over FCS Scalp Watch 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by FUBeAR View Post
    Yeah - looked at old standings to pick up S.UT. They are UAC. Ur right on that one point…

    Corrected list…

    63 Schollie / Playoff (fully) Participating FCS Conferences
    1 - BS/OVC - 4 | 0.40 / Team
    2 - Southland - 3 | 0.38 / Team
    3T - Big Sky - 4 | 0.33 / Team
    3T - UAC - 3 | 0.33 / Team
    5 - SoCon - 2 | 0.22 / Team
    6 - MVFC - 1 | 0.08 / Team
    7 - CAA - 0 | 0.00 / Team
    But…looking for ‘extra credit’ for your hated Griz for scheduling a 36 Schollie Team…um…No…just No.

    And, FUBeAR never counts a Big Sky Team out of Playoff consideration. Seems just yesterday that Cal Poly was in the Playoffs losing to a non-scholarship Team … or maybe that was Northern Arizona losing to a non-scholarship Team. It’s difficult to keep the many Big Sky Playoff flame-outs straight.

    But FUBeAR’s expectation is always that all 12 Big Sky Teams will be selected for the Playoff Field and the Committee will find a way to seed all 12 in the Top 8. That way, when the BSC only gets 10 in with 7 Seeds, FUBeAR is less enraged.
    and Portland State hosting North America: PSU had a Div 1 team scheduled and the team backed out late, leaving very little opportunity for PSU to refill that date with a Div 1 school.
    There is a way that seems right to a liberal, but in the end it leads to destruction.

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    Re: D-II/D-III/NAIA over FCS Scalp Watch 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by wapiti View Post
    and Portland State hosting North America: PSU had a Div 1 team scheduled and the team backed out late, leaving very little opportunity for PSU to refill that date with a Div 1 school.
    Great!!

    Hopefully that argument will retroactively get Mercer into the 2021 Playoffs...

    ...because WE KNOW if Portland State finishes 6-2 in FCS games (6-2 in Conference), including a 3-point loss in the final seconds to the Seeded Big Sky Champ in the final regular season game of the year (exactly as Mercer did ALL of those), that the Vikings will be IN the Playoffs ... and that's without playing SacState OR Idaho OR Weber.
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