How will we ever field a team...?
How will we ever field a team...?
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Because it's a bull**** lawOriginally Posted by clenz
It is characteristic of the unlearned that they are forever proposing something which is old, and because it has recently come to their own attention, supposing it to be new.
Opportunity is unattainable for most people because it is disguised as hard work!!
"The best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer."
re: the earlier discussion about players "quitting the team" and whether or not the school can cancel their scholarship.
How does that factor in when a player "enters the transfer portal" and basically stops playing in the middle of their current season? Or does it right after the season.
Does the school still have to honor the scholarship for that semester? What about the spring semester? (assuming the student doesn't transfer and enroll at a new school already by spring semester)
I mean, it would be one thing if the player announced the intention of wanting to transfer, but then plays out the remainder of the season (would be kind of like a pro player playing out the final contract year before free agency), but that doesn't seem to be the case typically, as it seems like whenever it is announced that they intend to transfer, they pretty much cut ties with their current team
Who announces they are transferring during the season?
It is characteristic of the unlearned that they are forever proposing something which is old, and because it has recently come to their own attention, supposing it to be new.
Opportunity is unattainable for most people because it is disguised as hard work!!
"The best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer."
Two Lehigh players did just that. It messed up the team, IMO.
Happens a ton.
To answer the question - they are on scholarship through the end of the semester.
Technically can a school go back, revoke, and go after the kid for tuition money? Yes....they can. SHSU did that a year or two ago with the RB or QB or something like that. I think eventually the bad PR of it got them to relent.
Any program/admin that isn't complete **** won't take the money from the kid. It's not like they can assign it to another kid mid season (I don't think) or that they even would do so. Especially the FCS level it would be "banked" as a savings by at least 99% of the programs.
Schools won't be recruiting athletes who haven't already entered the transfer portal. I'm sure some of that would/does go on but it wouldn't be widespread because schools that push the envelope there are really exposing themselves since the schools that are getting players poached aren't going to appreciate it and I'm sure will report it if they find out Penn St or Nebraska is talking to athletes about transferring who haven't entered the portal yet.
I don't think you're worried about academic protection like you claim to be. I think you're worried about smaller schools losing their investment which isn't the right way to look at student-athletes IMO. They should have the opportunity to transfer if they feel that's the best move for them either athletically or academically. If Trey Lance transfers to Nebraska I'm sure I'll be peeved what right do I have to tell him what is or isn't best for himself? If you're worried about protecting the student-athletes than rules like these are good things not bad things IMO.
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Not trying to single you out, here, but I'm so sick of hearing this. There's at least 2 big things that make this comparison bogus:
1. Coaches have buyouts in their contracts. Player transfers don't have to pay anything to go anywhere else. Contracts keep coaches from going wherever they want whenever they want with no consequences.
2. Coaches can get fired if they don't pan out like their ADs and fans hope they will. Players can keep their scholarship even if they don't pan out the way their coaches hope.
It's absolutely ridiculous that we've turned athletes who can get free rides to top-tier universities with admissions bars significantly lower than the population at large into an oppressed class.
Besides, there are already penalty-free transfer avenues:
1. Transfer down.
2. Work your arse off and get eligible for a grad transfer.
Last edited by FCS_pwns_FBS; February 19th, 2020 at 02:15 PM.
Six National Championships. All won via a playoff in the second highest level of football.
Coaches can get fired for cause, sure (if they get into legal trouble or get caught violating NCAA rules).
if they get fired due to lack of success (without the aforementioned causes), then the school would have to buy out the contract and pay the coach as per the terms of the contract.
Whether or not players can keep their scholarship if they don't "pan out" depends on if the scholarship is multi-year or single-year. would it not?
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