Top 10 current FCS programs?

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Originally Posted by Red & Black

I agree with most of what you said, but the title of the thread is Top 10 current FCS programs. Yeah, the attendance and facilities should factor into it, but I would think that what the team has accomplished on the field would have more weight. Only a handful of schools have the sort of accolades I listed above.

I think we'll see some improvements in attendance this season as well as some facility improvements coming up but it's just going to take time.

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Red and Black , do you post on the Eagle Forum under a different name?

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Originally Posted by Red & Black

I agree with most of what you said, but the title of the thread is Top 10 current FCS programs. Yeah, the attendance and facilities should factor into it, but I would think that what the team has accomplished on the field would have more weight. Only a handful of schools have the sort of accolades I listed above.

I think we'll see some improvements in attendance this season as well as some facility improvements coming up but it's just going to take time.

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All the elements of a good foundation for future success are there.

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Originally Posted by Red & Black

I agree with most of what you said, but the title of the thread is Top 10 current FCS programs. Yeah, the attendance and facilities should factor into it, but I would think that what the team has accomplished on the field would have more weight. Only a handful of schools have the sort of accolades I listed above.

I think we'll see some improvements in attendance this season as well as some facility improvements coming up but it's just going to take time.

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If it's ONLY on field and extremely current (last year), then EWU is #1. If you go with 10 years EWU is tied for 8th in playoff wins in last 10 years and still in. BUT, the criteria I posted was from the thread creator and he asked for a compliation that included history, support, facilities, etc... EWU is in the honorable mention category for me, as is JSU. This is a fluid list. 10 years ago you wouldn't imagine ever leaving YSU off the list, but I can't put them there now.

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Originally Posted by 89Hen

If it's ONLY on field and extremely current (last year), then EWU is #1. If you go with 10 years EWU is tied for 8th in playoff wins in last 10 years and still in. BUT, the criteria I posted was from the thread creator and he asked for a compliation that included history, support, facilities, etc... EWU is in the honorable mention category for me, as is JSU. This is a fluid list. 10 years ago you wouldn't imagine ever leaving YSU off the list, but I can't put them there now.

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Fair enough.

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Originally Posted by Red & Black

Fair enough.

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Besides, there are too many western teams on the list already.

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Originally Posted by 89Hen

Besides, there are too many western teams on the list already.

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xlolx There's never enough.

I wish I could throw my favorite team, North Dakota State on the list but I can't. We fit the bill for facilities and fan support. Were consistently to 7 in attendance and are pushing 10k season ticket holders. We've got a nice collection of NFL players and coaches. Tons of TV time and media coverage.

Not enough FCS history.

Ask me in 5-7 years. I wish we made the FCS transition a lot sooner.

Athough we were the kings of D2 with 8 National Championships, we lack in the FCS tradition because we've only been playoff eligible for 3 years. Many of our big wins took place during years we were not playoff eligible. We already have an elite 8 season, 4 FBS wins including Kansas and Minnesota. We have been ranked in the polls, as high as #1 during the transition years. Heck we even beat Montana as a D2 team with half the scholarships. Had we been playoff eligible the 06 and 07 teams would have made a playoff run. That would have been 3 appearances in 5 years.

As for the list? Many great programs. A few that come to mind are Appalachian, Georgia Southern, Montana... Im biased but I think the Missouri Valley has 3 teams... Northern Iowa, Southern Illinois, and Youngstown.

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Originally Posted by UNH72Plus

Well stated. And throw a couple of Walter Payton Award winners Azumah '98 and Santos '06 and a 21-4 FCS out of conference record since '02, counting playoffs.

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If you're counting playoffs, and you've been to the playoffs seven years running, then you'd have to have three NCs to only have four losses. ???

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Originally Posted by Tod

If you're counting playoffs, and you've been to the playoffs seven years running, then you'd have to have three NCs to only have four losses. ???

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Unless the other losses were to CAA teams.

But, I'd still have to question that stat, because UNI has beat UNH 3 times in the playoffs during that period, and I find it hard to believe that UNH only lost to 1 other non conference program during the stated time period.

Can we get some verification on that stat from someone less lazy than me?

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Originally Posted by ValleyChamp

Unless the other losses were to CAA teams.

But, I'd still have to question that stat, because UNI has beat UNH 3 times in the playoffs during that period, and I find it hard to believe that UNH only lost to 1 other non conference program during the stated time period.

Can we get some verification on that stat from someone less lazy than me?

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UNI and Pitt are the only two OOC opponents UNH has lost to since '05.

Their playoff losses have come against UNI, UMass, UNI, UNI, Villanova and Delaware.