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Re: 2017 (Too Early) SoCon Football Predictions
Its going to be a tight SoCon this year.
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Re: 2017 (Too Early) SoCon Football Predictions
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vestaviadude
Its going to be a tight SoCon this year.
Lot of teams have question marks, and I'm not sure anyone looks head and shoulders the favorite at this point. Just some thoughts.
UTC loses some key (really key) players and is breaking in a new coaching staff who does not have a lot of experience at this level.
Furman is coming off several down years, but has brought in some guys that appear to know what they are doing. Still, installing a new offense and defense will bring a learning curve on both sides of the ball.
The Citadel lost some of their key pieces with somewhat surprising departures. Hard to replace those guys.
Samford, as we have beaten to death, has a talented roster but has not demonstrated the ability to win a big game late in the year, stop the run, or keep other teams from scoring.
Wofford should be in a solid position, but still has some lingering depth questions. Were they playing with house money last season?
ETSU showed flashes of being something other than a doormat last year, but do they make significant strides?
Mercer lost a lot of players including a guy who (I think) has started close to 50 games at QB. They return some playmakers, but lose a lot of key pieces.
WCU was abysmal on defense last season, but showed impressive flashes on offense. Can they bring the defense up to par to pair with a talented offensive group?
VMI is losing their best player and QB. I think there's an open issue on whether they can even be moderately successful running their offensive system without him.
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PaladinFan
Lot of teams have question marks, and I'm not sure anyone looks head and shoulders the favorite at this point. Just some thoughts.
UTC loses some key (really key) players and is breaking in a new coaching staff who does not have a lot of experience at this level.
Furman is coming off several down years, but has brought in some guys that appear to know what they are doing. Still, installing a new offense and defense will bring a learning curve on both sides of the ball.
The Citadel lost some of their key pieces with somewhat surprising departures. Hard to replace those guys.
Samford, as we have beaten to death, has a talented roster but has not demonstrated the ability to win a big game late in the year, stop the run, or keep other teams from scoring.
Wofford should be in a solid position, but still has some lingering depth questions. Were they playing with house money last season?
ETSU showed flashes of being something other than a doormat last year, but do they make significant strides?
Mercer lost a lot of players including a guy who (I think) has started close to 50 games at QB. They return some playmakers, but lose a lot of key pieces.
WCU was abysmal on defense last season, but showed impressive flashes on offense. Can they bring the defense up to par to pair with a talented offensive group?
VMI is losing their best player and QB. I think there's an open issue on whether they can even be moderately successful running their offensive system without him.
Wofford only has two QB's with a freshman coming in this summer (last year's season starter apparently will go to law school and not return for his last year of eligibility). Our dominant placekicker/punter has transferred to UGA as a graduate transfer. Both losses will hurt.
The key to our success next year will be to stay healthy.
We have an all D-I schedule, but two early season conference games (which can be a blessing or a curse).
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walliver
two early season conference games (which can be a blessing or a curse).
I'm voting for CURSE.
http://athletics.wofford.edu/service...h=55&height=55SAT 9/2/2017 TBA FURMAN SPARTANBURG, S.C. GIBBS STADIUM
http://athletics.wofford.edu/service...h=55&height=55SAT 9/9/2017 TBA MERCER MACON, GA
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Re: 2017 (Too Early) SoCon Football Predictions
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FUBeAR
FU will have a new offense playing its first game. There will be surprises, but the wing-T is not defended much differently than the wingbone. I suspect it will be easier to defend FU in September than November.
Mercer will have a new QB, we'll have to see how quickly he comes up to speed.
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PaladinFan
Lot of teams have question marks,.......
VMI is losing their best player and QB. I think there's an open issue on whether they can even be moderately successful running their offensive system without him.
Maybe Coach Wach will tweak the playbook.....VMI did lose Cobb and three fine receivers, have three very good RB's coming back and at least one newcomer who could make the travel squad @ RB....plus a couple signees at WR for depth. ;)
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kdinva
Maybe Coach Wach will tweak the playbook.....VMI did lose Cobb and three fine receivers, have three very good RB's coming back and at least one newcomer who could make the travel squad @ RB... ;)
oooh...sounds like the Wishbone is about to make a comeback in LexVegas!
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FUBeAR
oooh...sounds like the Wishbone is about to make a comeback in LexVegas!
no way, ain't got no "running" QBs......
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Re: 2017 (Too Early) SoCon Football Predictions
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Originally Posted by
walliver
FU will have a new offense playing its first game. There will be surprises, but the wing-T is not defended much differently than the wingbone. I suspect it will be easier to defend FU in September than November.
Mercer will have a new QB, we'll have to see how quickly he comes up to speed.
I see this a few ways.
Yes, Furman will be breaking in a new offense and defense. I think that is good news and bad news for Wofford.
Good news is that Wofford will see a team that is still ironing out the kinks. The first game of a season is always fraught with mistakes, and maybe Furman will make more than you might otherwise expect.
Bad news for Wofford is they have no idea what Furman will do offensively. There's a lot of discussion of the "wing-t" on here, but everything stated publicly will suggest Furman will be a good deal more "multiple" than just running one particular offensive set. The defense will also be new, but of course Furman is led by a guy that knows the option, and has a defensive coordinator that successfully defended Wofford's attack the last time he coached a game. I expect Furman can spend a good bit of time in the preseason installing the defense to defend Wofford's option game.
Also, even though they are putting in a new offense, Furman still has a lot of veteran players on that side of the ball. Most of the offensive line returns, along with some veteran backs, receivers, and a senior QB. Of note, the QB - PJ Blazejowski - has started twice against Wofford the last three seasons and has put up 554 yards passing and 6 total touchdowns. He's been a handful for the Terrier defense.
Wofford will undoubtedly be favored, but you could pick a lot of easier first week games than playing Furman without much of a scouting report.
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All I'm going to say is ETSU went 5-6 with mostly sophomores. We lose 4 players. There is no way we don't make an improvement this year. How much of one? Well we shall see. I think 6-5 would seem fair, with one less DII game this year.
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ETSUfan1
All I'm going to say is ETSU went 5-6 with mostly sophomores. We lose 4 players. There is no way we don't make an improvement this year. How much of one? Well we shall see. I think 6-5 would seem fair, with one less DII game this year.
Just knock off JMU for us please. (Or is it VMI that plays them this year.....?)
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As I read through this entire thread two thoughts come to mind for YoucanYANKit....
1. All the qualifiers/disquals you place on Samford and Hatcher to get them to #1......Hell, I probably hold the world Record in the Marathon for 42 year old, 275# Men, that played Center on a on 2 different college football teams and have 4 kids. Eventually you can disqualify the competition and make yourself #1
2. You can have excuses, or you can have results...but you can have BOTH!!!!! Which will You have for Sammy's performance in 8 months?
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The Citadel has been decimated this offseason. We kicked out a couple starters, lost some to graduation, others decided not to come back for a fifth year (most notably Dee Delaney who transferred to Miami for his last year). Rumor is we lost another starter to injury and we should know more today or next week.
Picking El Cid as the number 3 is a bit optimistic at this point.
The good news is recruiting - I'm excited to see some of this year's class get into the starting roster in the next couple years, but for the coming season I think we'll be rebuilding. A middle of the pack finish wouldn't surprise me that much.
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Milktruck74
As I read through this entire thread two thoughts come to mind for YoucanYANKit....
1. All the qualifiers/disquals you place on Samford and Hatcher to get them to #1......Hell, I probably hold the world Record in the Marathon for 42 year old, 275# Men, that played Center on a on 2 different college football teams and have 4 kids. Eventually you can disqualify the competition and make yourself #1
2. You can have excuses, or you can have results...but you can have BOTH!!!!! Which will You have for Sammy's performance in 8 months?
LOL....Your probably right. How do you see it ending up? Whats your predictions?
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youcanspankit is going to be sorely disappointed. Hatcher is not a winner. See Georgia Southern and Jayson Foster...
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I have another set of 2017 predictions...
* Furman will be running the Wang-T and will average <2 passes/game; both incomplete
* CIT will not have enough players remaining to suit up a full Team, so all games vs. the Bellhops will be under 8 man football rules
* Chattanooga will rescind scholarships of all players and play (and Coach) D3 Football...in the SoCon
* Mercer lost every Player with any game experience, so they will, again, be re-classified as a Start-Up program in 2017; thus by NCAA decree, Davidson's players will wear Crimson and Campbell's will wear Blue & Orange when Mercer is @Alabama & @Auburn this season
* Woffy, capitalizing on their most successful plays in 2016, will run ONLY double-, triple, and quad-reverse passes on EVERY play
* VMI will be running the Wishbone and their "heir apparent" @ QB will transfer to Woffy so he gets to throw the ball more
* ETSU will go 1-10, with their only win over Sammy, 28-0 (7-0, 7-0, 7-0, 7-0 by quarters)
* WCU will have the #1 Defense in the SoCon & FCS, but Adams & Newsome will leave school before the season to join the US Olympic Teams (High Jump & Bobsled, respectively). The 'Cats go 1-11. They avenge last year's loss to ETSU by a 3-0 score, but they lose their other 11 games; ALL by the score of 3-0.
* Sammy goes undefeated (they refuse to accept their loss to ETSU or any of their other 4 or 5 losses) and CLAIMS to win the FCS National Championship (with the CLAIMED 8th or 9th worse talent in the SoCon; except for their O-Line, who go 1 thru 5 in 2018 NFL Draft picks) and Coach Hatcher leads a bloodless (AKA, SOFT) coup and assumes his rightful place leading that Crimson Team in Tuscaloosa...Davidson. :D
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citdog
youcanspankit is going to be sorely disappointed. Hatcher is not a winner. See Georgia Southern and Jayson Foster...
ha ha...very funny...xpeacex
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FUBeAR
I have another set of 2017 predictions...
* Furman will be running the Wang-T and will average <2 passes/game; both incomplete
* CIT will not have enough players remaining to suit up a full Team, so all games vs. the Bellhops will be under 8 man football rules
* Chattanooga will rescind scholarships of all players and play (and Coach) D3 Football...in the SoCon
* Mercer lost every Player with any game experience, so they will, again, be re-classified as a Start-Up program in 2017; thus by NCAA decree, Davidson's players will wear Crimson and Campbell's will wear Blue & Orange when Mercer is @Alabama & @Auburn this season
* Woffy, capitalizing on their most successful plays in 2016, will run ONLY double-, triple, and quad-reverse passes on EVERY play
* VMI will be running the Wishbone and their "heir apparent" @ QB will transfer to Woffy so he gets to throw the ball more
* ETSU will go 1-10, with their only win over Sammy, 28-0 (7-0, 7-0, 7-0, 7-0 by quarters)
* WCU will have the #1 Defense in the SoCon & FCS, but Adams & Newsome will leave school before the season to join the US Olympic Teams (High Jump & Bobsled, respectively). The 'Cats go 1-11. They avenge last year's loss to ETSU by a 3-0 score, but they lose their other 11 games; ALL by the score of 3-0.
* Sammy goes undefeated (they refuse to accept their loss to ETSU or any of their other 4 or 5 losses) and CLAIMS to win the FCS National Championship (with the CLAIMED 8th or 9th worse talent in the SoCon; except for their O-Line, who go 1 thru 5 in 2018 NFL Draft picks) and Coach Hatcher leads a bloodless (AKA, SOFT) coup and assumes his rightful place leading that Crimson Team in Tuscaloosa...Davidson. :D
<a data-cke-saved-href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cKa3GfYw6M" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cKa3GfYw6M">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cKa3GfYw6M
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CID1990
The Citadel has been decimated this offseason. We kicked out a couple starters, lost some to graduation, others decided not to come back for a fifth year (most notably Dee Delaney who transferred to Miami for his last year). Rumor is we lost another starter to injury and we should know more today or next week.
Picking El Cid as the number 3 is a bit optimistic at this point.
The good news is recruiting - I'm excited to see some of this year's class get into the starting roster in the next couple years, but for the coming season I think we'll be rebuilding. A middle of the pack finish wouldn't surprise me that much.
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McFields is the best injured Bulldog. He is Tyler Renew's replacement.
Looks like a freshman is going to get a shot at B back.
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youcanbankit
LOL....Your probably right. How do you see it ending up? Whats your predictions?
I have three predictions for the SoCon this year...
1. 3 teams in the playoffs (not sure which three).
2. The league will be very competitive (any given Saturday!!! Hell, even ETSU might sneak up and win a few...oh wait, they did that last year to Sammy).
3. Samford will not win the outright Title.
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Milktruck74
I have three predictions for the SoCon this year...
1. 3 teams in the playoffs (not sure which three).
2. The league will be very competitive (any given Saturday!!! Hell, even ETSU might sneak up and win a few...oh wait, they did that last year to Sammy).
3. Samford will not win the outright Title.
Horrible picks......xflaggedxxflaggedxxflaggedxxflaggedxxfl aggedx......:)
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Milktruck74
I have three predictions for the SoCon this year...
1. 3 teams in the playoffs (not sure which three).
2. The league will be very competitive (any given Saturday!!! Hell, even ETSU might sneak up and win a few...oh wait, they did that last year to Sammy).
3. Samford will not win the outright Title.
4. The conference will start the year off with a loss.
You forgot one.
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JSUSoutherner
You forgot one.
Yep. I forgot....
4. Band kids still don't get laid!!!
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Milktruck74
Yep. I forgot....
4. Band kids still don't get laid!!!
xrolleyesx
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6 SoCon Teams in the Top 25. I like that. Not too fond of the order in which he places them, but I do think 6 SoCon Teams in the 2017 Playoffs sounds about right.
Thoughts?
Southern Pigskin's Robbie Ross releases his way too early top 25 for the FCS. http://www.southernpigskin.com/socon...ly-fcs-top-25/
- James Madison
- North Dakota State
- Eastern Washington
- South Dakota State
- Richmond
- Wofford
- Jacksonville State
- Sam Houston State
- Samford
- Villanova
- Youngstown State
- The Citadel
- Chattanooga
- North Dakota
- Central Arkansas
- Montana
- Northern Arizona
- New Hampshire
- Northern Iowa
- Mercer
- Lehigh
- Illinois State
- Furman
- William and Mary
- Kennesaw State
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It seems very generous to put 6 teams in the top 25. Especially Mercer and Furman
It should probably be closer to this...
9 Wofford
13 The Citadel
19 Chattanooga
26 Samford
39 Furman
43 Mercer
(totally made up rankings based on where they should probably be. No I don't have a rankings yet to justify where they belong...)
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FUBeAR
6 SoCon Teams in the Top 25. I like that. Not too fond of the order in which he places them, but I do think 6 SoCon Teams in the 2017 Playoffs sounds about right.
Thoughts?
Southern Pigskin's Robbie Ross releases his way too early top 25 for the FCS. http://www.southernpigskin.com/socon...ly-fcs-top-25/
- James Madison
- North Dakota State
- Eastern Washington
- South Dakota State
- Richmond
- Wofford
- Jacksonville State
- Sam Houston State
- Samford
- Villanova
- Youngstown State
- The Citadel
- Chattanooga
- North Dakota
- Central Arkansas
- Montana
- Northern Arizona
- New Hampshire
- Northern Iowa
- Mercer
- Lehigh
- Illinois State
- Furman
- William and Mary
- Kennesaw State
Any ranking putting The Citadel in the preseason top 25 is based solely on past performance and doesn't reflect what has happened in the offseason.
Maybe Coach Thompson really is the second coming but this upcoming season will certainly test that.
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CID1990
Any ranking putting The Citadel in the preseason top 25 is based solely on past performance and doesn't reflect what has happened in the offseason.
Maybe Coach Thompson really is the second coming but this upcoming season will certainly test that.
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Every preseason poll is based upon past performance. This offseason has been tumultuous but let us not forget that the 5 year men that we lost were Kevin Higgins's boys.
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Re: 2017 (Too Early) SoCon Football Predictions
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FUBeAR
6 SoCon Teams in the Top 25. I like that. Not too fond of the order in which he places them, but I do think 6 SoCon Teams in the 2017 Playoffs sounds about right.
Thoughts?
Southern Pigskin's Robbie Ross releases his way too early top 25 for the FCS. http://www.southernpigskin.com/socon...ly-fcs-top-25/
- James Madison
- North Dakota State
- Eastern Washington
- South Dakota State
- Richmond
- Wofford
- Jacksonville State
- Sam Houston State
- Samford
- Villanova
- Youngstown State
- The Citadel
- Chattanooga
- North Dakota
- Central Arkansas
- Montana
- Northern Arizona
- New Hampshire
- Northern Iowa
- Mercer
- Lehigh
- Illinois State
- Furman
- William and Mary
- Kennesaw State
Wow....Great confidence in the SoCon shining through. xsmileyclapx
Another guy ranking Samford up the list. xhighfivex xthumbsupx
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citdog
Every preseason poll is based upon past performance.....
what about Furman @ #23?
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kdinva
what about Furman @ #23?
furman sucks
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kdinva
what about Furman @ #23?
Heckuva a young RB. Looking forward to him coming back from the injury he incurred early in his FR season!
Darius Morehead
Darius Morehead
#23
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FUBeAR
Heckuva a young RB. Looking forward to him coming back from the injury he incurred early in his FR season!
Darius Morehead
Darius Morehead
#23
http://furmanpaladins.com/sports/m-f...max_height=210
Darius Morehead
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He was hurt at The Citadel if I remember correctly. Did he get a medical redshirt?
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citdog
He was hurt at The Citadel if I remember correctly. Did he get a medical redshirt?
Looks like he did. He was a Fr. last year and the roster is current...CIT was game #2 for FU. Unless I'm mistaken, he did not play in any games after that game, so he's well within the NCAA Rules to receive a Redshirt year. I don't think he needs a "Medical Waiver" to gain an additional year of eligibility in this case. I think it would just be a 'garden variety' Redshirt.
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citdog
Every preseason poll is based upon past performance. This offseason has been tumultuous but let us not forget that the 5 year men that we lost were Kevin Higgins's boys.
I don't care who recruited them. They were damn good football players (every one) and it was not expected that we'd be replacing them this season
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I can't imagine the SoCon getting 6 teams in (though I would be happy to be wrong). I think 3-4 teams are more likely.
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Mocs123
I can't imagine the SoCon getting 6 teams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOgFZfRVaww
It's easy if you try...
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CID1990
I don't care who recruited them. They were damn good football players (every one) and it was not expected that we'd be replacing them this season
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True but I am glad we have the start with who we do. Should be two games to get confidence and gel in some new guys. Don't be surprised if we add a CB grad transfer.
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FUBeAR
Looks like he did. He was a Fr. last year and the roster is current...CIT was game #2 for FU. Unless I'm mistaken, he did not play in any games after that game, so he's well within the NCAA Rules to receive a Redshirt year. I don't think he needs a "Medical Waiver" to gain an additional year of eligibility in this case. I think it would just be a 'garden variety' Redshirt.
The rules are somewhat difficult to pinpoint, but at this stage it does not really matter. It appears Morehead will be eligible as a freshmen.
He is a guy that may be one of the league's break out players this year. In limited action last season against two good team (Michigan State and Citadel), he appeared to show great potential. Should be an exciting guy to watch this year in a running scheme.
Furman looks like they may have as much speed on offense as I can remember. Morehead can fly, as can Thomas Gordon. Blazejowski is extremely elusive as a QB.
There are a couple of other guys that can really run that we have seen in limited exposure - Bradford Lemons is a state champion sprinter as is Kavajae Ellis (also injured against the Citadel). New recruit Devin Wynn looks like a slightly bigger version of Darius Morehead.
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kdinva
what about Furman @ #23?
I think Furman finishes ahead of Mercer and Wofford this year. Not sure about #23....The new offense ("Wingteeish") will suit their talent and take time off the clock. Defense TBD...