Re: 2017 (Too Early) SoCon Football Predictions
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To put it simply, if Samford wants to be taken seriously on a national scale, you do not lose to ETSU.
But, I agree with you, Samford is developing a reputation as a paper tiger that makes a lot of noise in the preseason, but does not back it up when it matters. Wofford is the opposite. Rarely a lot of noise, but just keeps winning.[/QUOTE/]
HEHEHE!!! Give everyone a break on the ETSU loss. xlolx It was a fluke. Furman lost to Upstart Mercer in 2015. xoopsxCitadel lost to unranked Old dominion in 2013.xchinscratchx
Upsets Happen. The paper tiger Beat Furman the past few years xbangx and the Citadel is break even with Samford the past few.
Wofford is the opposite? Wofford is 1-4 the past five years versus Samford. xcrazyxBe reasonable man. xnonox
Old Dominion played the 2013 season with FBS level scholarships and finished 8-4. The Citadel has won 3 out of the last 4 and two in a row over samford.
Re: 2017 (Too Early) SoCon Football Predictions
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youcanbankit
Old Dominion played the 2013 season with FBS level scholarships and finished 8-4. The Citadel has won 3 out of the last 4 and two in a row over samford.
Old Dominion was the better team? I didnt think so. I thought it was an upset. Samford is 3 and 3 with the Citadel since 2011.
the citadel is sustaining more hard hits in the offseason. Two-time first-team All-America cornerback Dee Delaney's announcement Tuesday that he will leave after the spring semester for a graduate transfer season at Miami (Fla.) is especially damaging for The Citadel's 2017 outlook. Previously, second-team All-America offensive lineman Isaiah Pinson announced he will surrender his final season of eligibility to pursue a pro career, and slotback Reggie Williams and defensive linemen Kevin Graham and Travis Johnson departed the program
Whats going on with the exodus of so many of last years starters? How many now 4? 5? Plus the loss of last years seniors. Lots of opportunity ahead.
Re: 2017 (Too Early) SoCon Football Predictions
1. Furman did not fancy itself a title contender nor did its fans think the team would go 9-2.
2. Upsets do happen. ETSU lost to Wofford 31-0. Lost to UTC 37-7. Lost to VMI 37-7. Lost to Furman 52-7. Lost to Citadel 45-10.
In other words, ETSU stunk. So, while upsets happen, if you expect this pack of hyenas to buy that Samford is going 9-2 with an army of behmoth linemen, then you'd better darn well beat the worst team in the conference, and do so with panache.
3. Wofford is chronically underestimated at the beginning of the season, and always outperforms predictions. They were picked 6th last year (behind Samford) AND lost their starting quarterback before the season started. I would wager that if you ask anyone that follows SoCon football who they would put their money on in the post season - Mike Ayers or Chris Hatcher - to a man you would get the same answer.
Re: 2017 (Too Early) SoCon Football Predictions
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citdog
Old Dominion was the better team? I didnt think so. I thought it was an upset. Samford is 3 and 3 with the Citadel since 2011.
the citadel is sustaining more hard hits in the offseason. Two-time first-team All-America cornerback Dee Delaney's announcement Tuesday that he will leave after the spring semester for a graduate transfer season at Miami (Fla.) is especially damaging for The Citadel's 2017 outlook. Previously, second-team All-America offensive lineman Isaiah Pinson announced he will surrender his final season of eligibility to pursue a pro career, and slotback Reggie Williams and defensive linemen Kevin Graham and Travis Johnson departed the program
Whats going on with the exodus of so many of last years starters? How many now 4? 5? Plus the loss of last years seniors. Lots of opportunity ahead.
Don't deflect. We're talking about your team full of superstars and your Tom Landry clone of a coach.
Re: 2017 (Too Early) SoCon Football Predictions
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citdog
Old Dominion was the better team? I didnt think so. I thought it was an upset. Samford is 3 and 3 with the Citadel since 2011.
Not I really want to get into a discussion about the 2013 season, but to set the record straight....
OD played 5 FBS teams that year They went 1-4 with a couple close ones against ECU and Pitt. The win was against Idaho (not that impressive but a W). A couple blow out losses to FBS as well. We went 5-7. They were a pretty good FCS team that year and we were just mediocre. Massey had us ranked 188 in Div I. ODU was ranked 129. No, it was not an upset win at home 59-58 for them. But it was a shootout. Something that you do not expect from a TO team. They had some serious rush defense issues as we had a bunch of scoring drives under 2 minutes.
As far as Samford goes, we seem to do pretty well against them all things considered. Most of the last 6 games have been fairly close except for each having a dominating victory. But the other 4 games were decided by total of 13 points.
To get back to Samford's issues, it is really was a schizoid team this past year. How it preserved its W against Cent Ark is still a mystery. Giving up 29 points in the 4th is never good, but a W is a W. When it took everything Miss St had to beat them, I was not liking our chances very much. When it gave a 10 point lead against us with 6 minutes to play I was dumbstruck. And then the ETSU fiasco. I kept scratching my head all year regarding Samford.
Re: 2017 (Too Early) SoCon Football Predictions
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Don't deflect. We're talking about your team full of superstars and your Tom Landry clone of a coach.
Not deflecting. 5 projected starters leaving. Something is happening. Whats up?
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PaladinFan
1. Furman did not fancy itself a title contender nor did its fans think the team would go 9-2.
2. Upsets do happen. ETSU lost to Wofford 31-0. Lost to UTC 37-7. Lost to VMI 37-7. Lost to Furman 52-7. Lost to Citadel 45-10.
In other words, ETSU stunk. So, while upsets happen, if you expect this pack of hyenas to buy that Samford is going 9-2 with an army of behmoth linemen, then you'd better darn well beat the worst team in the conference, and do so with panache.
3. Wofford is chronically underestimated at the beginning of the season, and always outperforms predictions. They were picked 6th last year (behind Samford) AND lost their starting quarterback before the season started. I would wager that if you ask anyone that follows SoCon football who they would put their money on in the post season - Mike Ayers or Chris Hatcher - to a man you would get the same answer.
Mike Ayers is a good coach, but he has a tendency to have a really good year, a mediocre year, then a bad year. Then ground hog day all over again. If you ask anyone who has watched the past 5 years he is 1-4 against Samford. They will pick Samford. As far as ETSU, it happens. Its better to have an upset and still go to the playoffs anyway, than to sit at home year after year bashing the other teams that are winning. We will take the loss and be glad we learned from it. ETSU wont be a loss this year. When they beat Furman this year, prepare your self to have a vocabulary sandwich of your own words. Its funny how things work out that way sometimes. You to Cit dog! LOL
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youcanbankit
Not I really want to get into a discussion about the 2013 season, but to set the record straight....
OD played 5 FBS teams that year They went 1-4 with a couple close ones against ECU and Pitt. The win was against Idaho (not that impressive but a W). A couple blow out losses to FBS as well. We went 5-7. They were a pretty good FCS team that year and we were just mediocre. Massey had us ranked 188 in Div I. ODU was ranked 129. No, it was not an upset win at home 59-58 for them. But it was a shootout. Something that you do not expect from a TO team. They had some serious rush defense issues as we had a bunch of scoring drives under 2 minutes.
As far as Samford goes, we seem to do pretty well against them all things considered. Most of the last 6 games have been fairly close except for each having a dominating victory. But the other 4 games were decided by total of 13 points.
To get back to Samford's issues, it is really was a schizoid team this past year. How it preserved its W against Cent Ark is still a mystery. Giving up 29 points in the 4th is never good, but a W is a W. When it took everything Miss St had to beat them, I was not liking our chances very much. When it gave a 10 point lead against us with 6 minutes to play I was dumbstruck. And then the ETSU fiasco. I kept scratching my head all year regarding Samford.
You nailed it. Very Inconsistent. No run game was also obvious.
Re: 2017 (Too Early) SoCon Football Predictions
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youcanbankit
prepare your self to have a vocabulary sandwich of your own words.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdghRwWfaOQ
Re: 2017 (Too Early) SoCon Football Predictions
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youcanbankit
Mike Ayers is a good coach, but he has a tendency to have a really good year, a mediocre year, then a bad year. Then ground hog day all over again. If you ask anyone who has watched the past 5 years he is 1-4 against Samford. They will pick Samford. As far as ETSU, it happens. Its better to have an upset and still go to the playoffs anyway, than to sit at home year after year bashing the other teams that are winning. We will take the loss and be glad we learned from it. ETSU wont be a loss this year. When they beat Furman this year, prepare your self to have a vocabulary sandwich of your own words. Its funny how things work out that way sometimes. You to Cit dog! LOL
You are the one deflecting and missing the point of the exercise. I have said nothing of Furman. If I had made the representation that Furman would run through the SoCon and win 9 games all behind the strength of an NFL calibre offensive line, I would hope that those on this board would do their jobs and tell me I'm out of place.
This has nothing to do with Mike Ayer's record against Samford. Chris Hatcher has a career record of 58-55 at the D1 level. You say he's the best coach in the league. He's a .500 coach.