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What tradition does Villanova have? Or Richmond for that matter?Quote:
Originally Posted by Go Lehigh TU owl
EWU has as much tradition and name recognition, especially in the last 10 years, as those schools. Any name recognition that Villanova has has nothing to do with FCS Football.
EWU put in the red turf to help brand its self. If nothing else, the school felt it needed a way to help get Eagle football on the map.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbackjon
BTW, I bet most football fans know that Brian Westbrook went to Villanova. People know Villanova football is a quality product despite playing at a lower level.
This decade, EWU has had three draft picks, one Pro-Bowler, first team all proQuote:
Originally Posted by Go Lehigh TU owl
This decade, VU has had one draft pick, one Pro-Bowler, first team all pro
You are letting your ECB shine through.
EWU certainly belongs in the conversation with the schools I mentioned.
App State, Montana and Delaware are the big three of the decade. No other schools have multiple NC appearances since 2000.
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Originally Posted by ursus arctos horribilis
POST EDIT: IT would kill the topic.
Even more curious is Montana State - while good fan support, 4 playoffs and only one win since 2000 seems to not be a top 10 program
Fewest playoff appearances of all those mentioned so far is Youngstown, with two. JMU has three. Jax State has three as well, with ZERO wins.
Another missing for consideration is McNeese State - 7 playoff appearances this decade
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Originally Posted by dbackjon
Gotta agree, Montana State has one playoff win in the past 25 years. Yet EWU who has a NC and 6 playoffs wins since 2000 doesn't deserve mention talk about bizarre.
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Originally Posted by dbackjon
JMU has 4 playoff appearances since 2004
I think their rivalry with Montana really elavates them in the D1 football community. They also have (will have) great facilities and fan support.Quote:
Originally Posted by FargoBison
McNeese State is interesting. For whatever reason, despite solid success on the field, they've fallen out of the FCS thought process as proven by this thread.
I believe intangibles means a lot. Despite winning 2 national titles in the last 10 years there's a lot of people that wouldn't list Florida as one of the current Top 10 bball programs. Look at the varying opinions of Maryland.
I'm just saying one playoff win in 25 years doesn't exactly scream top 10 program(somebody has them top 5). That is like an FBS team winning one New Years Day/BCS bowl in 25 years and being called a top 10 program.
I understand they have nice facilities and decent support but at some point you gotta win playoffs games at least that is what I've been told over and over again by many people(some of whom have even posted in this thread and ranked MSU in the top 10).
GSU is and always will be number one until anyone comes close to our titles. We had a bad run with inbred rubes like Van Gorder and Hatcher, but that is all over now. Hopefully Sammy Baker is on his way out, but all he is now is a figurehead. Not allowed to make any decisions.