Re: Top 10 current FCS programs?
Well when looking at top "programs", I think you need to look at schools that consistently have a chance to win a national title. So this obviously includes prestige, coaching, stadium, facilities, conference, recent success, academic support, fan support, campus, location. The interesting thing is that the last 3 national champions all are somewhat deficient in certain of these areas, so it is harder to say that the best programs are just the schools with the best facilities / fan support and what not. But if I had to make a list of the top 10 CURRENT FCS programs I guess it would look like this:
ASU
Montana
Delaware
UNI
JMU
Richmond
Villanova
Georgia Southern
W&M
EWU
UNH and SUI are definitely right up there, but have not had quite the playoff success. NDSU could obviously quickly join this list if they can continue to have FCS success
Re: Top 10 current FCS programs?
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89Hen
Of those three, I only have NDSU on my list. That has mostly to do with attendance, wins over Kansas, Minnesota and Ball St, and in case you didn't hear, they kinda got jobbed in their semifinal game last year. :p
QUARTERfinal xcoffeex
And no they didn't. Controversial call could've gone either way, but it would've only allowed them to tie. Their defense *****ed them over.
Re: Top 10 current FCS programs?
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bostonspider
W&M
UNH and SUI are definitely right up there, but have not had quite the playoff success.
FWIW, W&M is 4-4 in the playoffs in the last ten years, UNH is 6-7
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Screamin_Eagle174
QUARTERfinal xcoffeex
And no they didn't. Controversial call could've gone either way, but it would've only allowed them to tie. Their defense *****ed them over.
I don't think you are getting what 89 and I have been doing lately Sceam. It's what's known as a "heel turn" in wrestling. Join the group and poke fun from the inside for a while by agreeing with those NDSU folks like JBB. It's a richer laugh.
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89Hen
There are only a couple of universal teams that really MUST be there to be credible IMO... AppSt, Montana and UD.
I can't believe that I am agreeing with a Hen fan :)), but hey we recently did have a blue moon. These three are definitely must haves for the list and I would probably add Georgia Southern, UMass and McNeese. Oh, and of course, Lehigh ;)
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LUHawker
I can't believe that I am agreeing with a Hen fan :)), but hey we recently did have a blue moon. These three are definitely must haves for the list and I would probably add Georgia Southern, UMass and McNeese. Oh, and of course, Lehigh ;)
You took it too far. It's easy to make a case against McNeese given their horrible playoff record in the last 7-8 years. They've been getting crushed in the first round worse than MEAC teams. GSU would be a lock for historic programs, but before last year's trip to the semis, they've had a tough go of it (21-23 previous four years and hadn't won a playoff game since 2002). UMass is in the middle of a pretty ugly spell too.
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BigHouseClosedEnd
I can take this one. No problem.
Dude, they won a National Championship in 2004 and have won a total of 2 playoff games in the 6 subsequent seasons. xscanx
If that doesn't qualify a team to be Top 2 or 3 on this list, what does?
Capiche?
This.
Hey Moliva, lighten up a little. You seem to have a lot of anger towards everything JMU. I understand we're rivals and everything, but it's nothing to be angry about all the time. Trust me, there's a lot of other things worth more important.
Tell ya what, when the Spiders visit Bridgeforth on Oct. 1, stop by my tailgate, I'll buy you a beer and you can release your message board anger towards the Dukes a little.
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89Hen
FWIW, W&M is 4-4 in the playoffs in the last ten years, UNH is 6-7
W&M's four wins came on two semi-final runs, losing close games to the eventual champ each time. UNH never made it past the quarters. Quality vs. quantity I guess.
FWIW, W&M is 8-0 against UNH the last ten years.
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tribefan40
W&M's four wins came on two semi-final runs, losing close games to the eventual champ each time. UNH never made it past the quarters. Quality vs. quantity I guess.
So then you're behind: UD, JMU, UMass, Villanova, Richmond, EWU, Montana, AppSt, UNI and Colgate who have all been deeper. Still not in top 10. :p
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89Hen
So then you're behind: UD, JMU, UMass, Villanova, Richmond, EWU, Montana, AppSt, UNI and Colgate who have all been deeper. Still not in top 10. :p
I don't think I was making an argument for being top 10, just pointing out that numbers can be deceiving. I would say that W&M is comfortably in the top 15, too many off seasons in there to justify top ten, IMO.
Just to keep it rolling, does one deep run (championship or no) justify a top ten?
