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polsongrizz
April 12th, 2005, 10:54 PM
A comparison of Woods and Nicklaus in the majors
By DOUG FERGUSON, AP Golf Writer
April 12, 2005

AUGUSTA, Ga. (AP) -- Perceptions of Tiger Woods can change quickly when he's wearing a green jacket.

After he won the 2002 U.S. Open for his eighth major, Golf Digest asked readers on its Web site if they thought he would break Jack Nicklaus' record of 18 majors, and 73 percent said yes. The same question was posed two years later -- with Woods still stuck on eight majors -- and 71 percent said no.

This week, the online survey by Golf Digest asked how many times he would win the Masters. Nearly 70 percent said either seven or eight green jackets.

If nothing else, winning the Masters allows conversations to resume about his quest to reach 18 majors. Woods now has nine majors at age 29, trailing only Nicklaus and Walter Hagen (11), tied with Ben Hogan and Gary Player.

Woods remains ahead of schedule.

He has won nine of his first 33 majors as a pro. Nicklaus had won seven at that point.

Woods twice has gone 10 majors without winning, while Nicklaus' longest drought at this stage in his career was 12 majors, from the '67 U.S. Open to the '70 British Open at St. Andrews.

But if Woods wants to keep pace, the next five years will be crucial. Nicklaus won seven of the next 22 majors after ending his dry spell, including multiple-major seasons in 1972 and 1975.

Nicklaus says he wasn't aware of Bobby Jones' record of 13 majors (including six amateur titles) until the Golden Bear won his 10th. Woods was not aware he was halfway to Nicklaus' mark after winning the Masters.

``I haven't thought about it -- that's the first time,'' he said. ``I guess I am halfway. A long way to go.''

Gil Dobie
April 13th, 2005, 06:32 AM
Tiger has a great opportunity to break Jacks record. He has to stay focused. What's amazing about Bobby Jones winning 13 Majors, is that he was 28 when he retired. IMO these are the 3 greatest golfers of all time.

89Hen
April 13th, 2005, 07:53 AM
I think he has a good chance, but the one thing that isn't mentioned is how the game has become a young man's game. With all the kids coming out hitting it further and further, I don't know if Tiger will be able to keep up into his late 30's. When Jack won his final Masters in 1986, 250 was still considered to be a long drive, not a hard three iron. It's not as big a deal at the Masters, but it will be in the other Majors. They will have to keep making the courses longer and tighter if they want to keep the scores where they are. Think about it, because of Tiger and all the long hitters, Augusta starting changing their course, something they really hadn't done before.

polsongrizz
April 13th, 2005, 09:47 AM
No doubt about that Hen but for the most part it seems the avg guy on the PGA doesn't get a win at a major event(not a MAJOR) until mid to late 20's. I think even the great kids that are coming up have a way to go to catch the two who battled it out over the weekend.

putter
April 13th, 2005, 09:54 AM
Tiger is 29 and has won 9 majors. Jack was 31 when he won his 9th major. 89Hen is right, the game has younger and younger players who grow up wanting to be on the PGA Tour. Much different than Jack's era. Tiger has the game and the competitive nature to win more but I believe it will be tougher.

89Hen
April 13th, 2005, 10:26 AM
O'Meara was the last old guy to win it in 1998. Now it seems like you have guys coming out of the woodwork to win majors... Steve Jones, Ben Curtis, Todd Hamilton, Paul Lawrie, Shaun Micheel, Rich Beem....

BTW an interesting stat... In 1962 when Jack won his first US Open there were 2,475 entrants for qualifying. Last yeare there were 8,726. I don't think that the dramatic increase in entries has anything to do with who actually wins the tourney, but it does go to show that there are more and more serious golfers out there all the time.

polsongrizz
April 13th, 2005, 10:49 AM
No doubt there will be some younger guys showing up, But lets not forget Tiger is ONLY 29 and for the most part any of the younger guys who have a chance are not much younger than him overall and to this point have not clearly established themselves yet as a force to be reconed with on the tour. that said I really do not think anyone believes anyone else but Tiger right now has a chance to break these records. Now he may not at all, but he is the only one to ever have a pretty good shot at it.

Gort
April 13th, 2005, 11:11 AM
I really doubt that Woods will be able to match or exceed Nicklaus' mark of 18 majors. Tiger is still one of the top golfers in the world, but he is far from the totally dominate player he was early in his career. I think he's got other things on his mind now.

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polsongrizz
April 13th, 2005, 11:25 AM
As do I ;) :D

colgate13
April 13th, 2005, 12:22 PM
When Tiger's game starts to fade maybe we'll see some steriods make their way into the PGA and help him in the twilight of his career?

That's mostly a joke but... baseball seemed to be a skill game that older athletes could still be successful at and look where that is!

putter
April 13th, 2005, 03:03 PM
Tiger was groomed to be where he is. There was no conversations at his house about being a doctor or lawyer. It was a golfer. You now have kids, instead of going to Disneyland for vacation, are spending the week at David Leadbetters golf school. Very different from 10 years ago

89Hen
April 13th, 2005, 03:04 PM
C'mon Putter, kids are still going to Neverland.

colgate13
April 13th, 2005, 03:09 PM
C'mon Putter, kids are still going to Neverland.
hen, that's just plain wrong! :eek: :) :D

putter
April 14th, 2005, 10:28 AM
89Hen,

:eek: :eek:

That is exactly what my jaw did when I read that. Then I fell of my chair!!!!