LEHIGH-LAFAYETTE GAME #147 SOLD OUT--November 19

[ngineer]

Announced today that no tickets are currently available. Athletic office said Lafayette has been given their allocation. IF Lafayette does not use their entire allocation, those returned seats will be made available based upon a waiting list.

It was also announced that a decision will be made the week of the game as to whether additional, temporary stands will be added and/or seating allowed on the grass horseshoe. I think this will be driven by the weather forecast and the demand.

[RichH2]

if it follows past practice,if ground not saturated or covered with snow, bleachers will be put up if waiting list big enuf. I would guess that the list will be quite long this year. May be we'll get some tickets back from Lafayette

[Bogus Megapardus]

Lafayette plays football?

[RichH2]

Guess we can count on getting your ticket back

[Twentysix]

Very nice, Go pards!

[Franks Tanks]

Bets to keep the game interesting

1- Over/under 400 yards for Lum

2- Will the pards cover the 28 point spread?

3- Will Frank have an epic sideline meltdown?

[Bogus Megapardus]

Tavani always has a meltdown. The bet should be whether he remains cool and collected in the face of adversity.

BTW this thread could devolve very quickly, knowing the parties involved. It's a bit early in the season.

[RichH2]

Bogie look at it like a bullpen session prior to the game. Face it you guys may be the Gettysburg of 2015xrolleyesx

[Twentysix]

AGS needs a 7 way thread between Lehigh/Lafayette/NDSU/UND/App st/GaSo/UTC

[slycat]

Awesome news! Whats the stadium capacity? Does it usually sell out?

[Bogus Megapardus]

Awesome news! Whats the stadium capacity? Does it usually sell out?

About 20,000 if the endzone seating to the left is included. It always has sold out.


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rW-OJ48AJBU/TQbNvgjYImI/AAAAAAAAQWQ/HpPwL4HK9is/s1600/lehigh_goodman_stadium.jpg

[LehighU11]

Awesome news! Whats the stadium capacity? Does it usually sell out?

Despite a recent sharp decline in home attendance (at least at Lehigh), Lehigh-Lafayette always sells out. This is the 12th straight year that the game has been sold out in advance, according to Lehigh Athletics. Goodman Stadium at Lehigh holds 16,000 with additional room on a grass horseshoe behind the South endzone. Fisher Field holds 13,100 but Lafayette always adds up to 3,500 additional seats for The Rivalry.

Looks like 4 in a row for the Brown and White!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

A good picture from Lehigh-Lafayette at Goodman.

http://www.lehighsports.com/assets/1/Lists/612x344/Goodman%20Stadium%20BRH_2879.jpg

[Bogus Megapardus]

And even before there was a Goodman, when most of these other pups could only dream of a double-tiered stadium, there was good ol' Taylor.


http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/8743/taylor1972400.jpg

[LUHawker]

Looks like 4 in a row for the Brown and White!

Don't get ahead of yourself there, '11. This year will be my 22nd L-L game and they rarely unfold as one might expect. The 'rivalry' factor plays big in this series.

[carney2]

Awesome news! Whats the stadium capacity? Does it usually sell out?

This is not news. It has sold out every year since the Madison administration.

[Bogus Megapardus]

Yep - it's been sold out for a long, long time


http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/7735/1926fisher448w.jpg

Fisher Field, Lafayette College, 1926

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Final Game at Taylor Stadium

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/5812/taylor21tj.jpg

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/1674/taylor106zw.jpg

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/6369/taylor51wt.jpg

http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/4594/taylor16ou.jpg

[carney2]

Despite a recent sharp decline in home attendance (at least at Lehigh), Lehigh-Lafayette always sells out. This is the 12th straight year that the game has been sold out in advance, according to Lehigh Athletics. Goodman Stadium at Lehigh holds 16,000 with additional room on a grass horseshoe behind the South endzone. Fisher Field holds 13,100 but Lafayette always adds up to 3,500 additional seats for The Rivalry.

Well intentioned and from the heart, but in need of amendments and corrections. To wit

1. This is the 12th straight year that the game has sold out at Badman. Since this is only the 12th time that the game has been played in the Hellertown Toilet, that means it has been sold out there every time it has been played there. Going back to the on-campus mausoleum that preceded it, the sellouts stretch back much further. The same is true in Easton. As I noted in another post, I cannot remember the last time this game was not sold out, no matter how bad either or both teams was/were.

2. Can't speak for Badman, but temporary seating has been added only once for this game at the new Fisher Stadium. That was in 2006.

[Bogus Megapardus]

Now I remember. Still using the same old scoreboard at Goodman, except you haven't changed the bulbs.

[Bogus Megapardus]

the 100th game - 1964 - at Fisher Field


http://cdm.lafayette.edu/cgi-bin/getimage.exe?CISOROOT=/cap&CISOPTR=1147&DMSCALE=12.50000&DMWIDTH=700&DMHEIGHT=700&DMX=0&DMY=0&DMTEXT=%20lehigh&REC=9&DMTHUMB=1&DMROTATE=0

[Bogus Megapardus]

circa 1905 - presumably in Bethlehem


http://cdm.lafayette.edu/cgi-bin/getimage.exe?CISOROOT=/cap&CISOPTR=1200&DMSCALE=12.50000&DMWIDTH=700&DMHEIGHT=700&DMX=0&DMY=0&DMTEXT=%20lehigh&REC=14&DMTHUMB=1&DMROTATE=0

[Bogus Megapardus]

1921, at Lehigh


http://cdm.lafayette.edu/cgi-bin/getimage.exe?CISOROOT=/cap&CISOPTR=1216&DMSCALE=12.50000&DMWIDTH=700&DMHEIGHT=700&DMX=0&DMY=0&DMTEXT=%20lehigh&REC=15&DMTHUMB=1&DMROTATE=0

[ElonFirefighter]

1921, at Lehigh


http://cdm.lafayette.edu/cgi-bin/getimage.exe?CISOROOT=/cap&CISOPTR=1216&DMSCALE=12.50000&DMWIDTH=700&DMHEIGHT=700&DMX=0&DMY=0&DMTEXT=%20lehigh&REC=15&DMTHUMB=1&DMROTATE=0

Where were you sitting??

[Bogus Megapardus]

Middle Three Conference Standings, May 1942.


http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/3836/middlethreestandings051.jpg



I didn't realize that Rutgers was known as the "Queensmen" at the time.

[Bogus Megapardus]

What's up with the "Middle Three" - Lehigh, Rutgers and Lafayette?

is this similar to:

1. The big three - Harvard, Yale and Princeton?

and

2. The little three - Williams, Amherst and Wesleyan?

That is exactly where it came from. The Middle Three existed for 50 years, until Lehigh lost the friggin' cannon.

[Sam]

Major upset 2011

[slycat]

This is not news. It has sold out every year since the Madison administration.

Then why is there a thread on it?

[Bogus Megapardus]

Major upset 2011

So you think Lehigh will win, then? Can't see it myself. xsmhx

[van]

So you think Lehigh will win, then? Can't see it myself. xsmhx

Season is so dismal that you're resorting to this already?

[ngineer]

And even before there was a Goodman, when most of these other pups could only dream of a double-tiered stadium, there was good ol' Taylor.


http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/8743/taylor1972400.jpg

Great pic. I was there for that one--definitely 1970's with the hair.

[ngineer]

circa 1905 - presumably in Bethlehem


http://cdm.lafayette.edu/cgi-bin/getimage.exe?CISOROOT=/cap&CISOPTR=1200&DMSCALE=12.50000&DMWIDTH=700&DMHEIGHT=700&DMX=0&DMY=0&DMTEXT=%20lehigh&REC=14&DMTHUMB=1&DMROTATE=0

Yes, down at the old baseball end of the field and well before the upper deck was added in the 1940 or 50's.

[Gordon Shumway]

Some great old pictures. So what ever happened to Taylor Stadium? If it is still around can you send it up to Durham, NH? xlolx

[Bogus Megapardus]

Some great old pictures. So what ever happened to Taylor Stadium? If it is still around can you send it up to Durham, NH? xlolx

I was still at Lafayette when they tore it down. Taylor was right on campus. I think the graduate management school is there now.

[Bogus Megapardus]

1901 - gathering tinder for the Lafayette-Lehigh bonfire.


http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/669/90401bondfiretender.jpg

[Twentysix]

Some nice photos in this thread xthumbsupx

[Bogus Megapardus]

2010 - two Lafayette women dispute possession of a single, hard-to-get Lafayette-Lehigh ticket at the March Field pre-game.


http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/4524/2girls1bite.jpg

[Bogus Megapardus]

We're not always in such good taste, though.


http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/521/weepee400.jpg

[Twentysix]

Lol, thats awesome.

[Bogus Megapardus]

Harvard once stole the cannon, it seems, according to The Crimson:

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/1947/11/5/cannon-nappers-are-poor-sports-say-rutgers/

[Pard4Life]

Harvard once stole the cannon, it seems, according to The Crimson:

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/1947/11/5/cannon-nappers-are-poor-sports-say-rutgers/


1921, at Lehigh


http://cdm.lafayette.edu/cgi-bin/getimage.exe?CISOROOT=/cap&CISOPTR=1216&DMSCALE=12.50000&DMWIDTH=700&DMHEIGHT=700&DMX=0&DMY=0&DMTEXT=%20lehigh&REC=15&DMTHUMB=1&DMROTATE=0

That's not Lehigh... it's March Field. And it's not 1921: odd number years are at Lehigh.

[Pard4Life]

Now I remember. Still using the same old scoreboard at Goodman, except you haven't changed the bulbs.

Badman has a new LCD board but it's still a POS... went out during the UNH game and went out again during the Liberty game. And it went out last year too!

[Bogus Megapardus]

For anybody interested in the PBS documentary about the Lafayette-Lehigh game, narrated by the great Harry Kalas, go here:

http://documentaries.wlvt.org/index.php/2010/11/lehigh-lafayette-legacy/

[ngineer]

Some great old pictures. So what ever happened to Taylor Stadium? If it is still around can you send it up to Durham, NH? xlolx

The home stands of Taylor, upper deck, were demolished. The lower concrete stands were covered and planted mostly with grass and some shrubbery to form the south side of the large courtyard/plaza for the Rauch Business School that now stands where the west endzone and north visitors stands used to be. The Zoellner Arts Center stands where the eastern end of the stadium was..which was the varsity baseball field until late '70's, then a parking lot for big supporters.
It was a great place to watch and play. Many people have told me that Taylors sod was the best playing surface on the east coast. The school took very good care of it. Playing on the same field as Jim Thorpe gives one a chill, regardless as to how many times the grass was cut and reseeded since 1912.

[Bogus Megapardus]

That's not Lehigh... it's March Field. And it's not 1921: odd number years are at Lehigh.


If that's the case, the Lafayette Archive Digital Collection misidentifies this photo as being the 1921 game, which was played in Bethlehem. I agree it has to be March Field. It appears much to civilized to be "over there."

[Bogus Megapardus]

Playing on the same field as Jim Thorpe gives one a chill, regardless as to how many times the grass was cut and reseeded since 1912.

Here's a picture of Jim Thorpe and the Carlisle Indians at Lafayette's March Field (which still exists, of course). Oh, yeah, Pop Warner was there, too, as coach of the Carlisle team.

http://cdm.lafayette.edu/cgi-bin/getimage.exe?CISOROOT=/cap&CISOPTR=1198&DMSCALE=12.50000&DMWIDTH=700&DMHEIGHT=700&DMX=0&DMY=0&DMTEXT=&REC=1&DMTHUMB=1&DMROTATE=0


2010 - pre-game festivities on the same grass where Jim Thorpe once ran:

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/7259/lehighlafayette10.jpg



Try as you might, you can't out-history Lafayette-Lehigh!

[Pard4Life]

Yes the digital archives got it wrong. That's clearly March Field based on the stands and the rear of the current history house and former theta delta (?).

That Carlisle game was 100 years ago... funny story: we were undefeated heading into that game. That week, our legendary coach Bob Folwell decides to quit for reasons unclear in the historical record. We go 3-2 the rest of the way. We lost to Carlisle 19-0 but we almost gained an early advantage. I think we scored on the opening kick but it was called back. Thorpe was actually injured in the game and I think Carlisile lost the next one because of it, but it setup his legendary Harvard performance.

Several years ago someone found a ticket to that game in their wall. Wish I had that artifact!

[Pard4Life]

I hope ESPN college gameday shows up for 150. We would be as boisterous and raucous as any student crowd on that show!

[Bogus Megapardus]

I hope ESPN college gameday shows up for 150. We would be as boisterous and raucous as any student crowd on that show!

They could set up right there on March Field, the exact spot "where Jim Thorpe once ran." How many schools today can duplicate that?

Of course, if they've already got a puppet show scheduled, well . . . .

[Pard4Life]

They could set up right there on March Field, the exact spot "where Jim Thorpe once ran." How many schools today can duplicate that?

Of course, if they've already got a puppet show scheduled, well . . . .

I also think we was injured on the opening play. Anyhow, Thorpe's renown on March Field is track, where he single handedly beats us in the spring 1912.

[Bogus Megapardus]

In his track days Carlisle was booked to meet the Lafayette team at Easton. A welcoming committee was puzzled when only two Indians got off the train.

"Where's your team?" they asked.

"This is the team," replied Thorpe.

"Only two of you?"

"Only one," Jim said with a smile. "This fellow's the manager."


http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/bday/0528.html

[Franks Tanks]

In his track days Carlisle was booked to meet the Lafayette team at Easton. A welcoming committee was puzzled when only two Indians got off the train.

"Where's your team?" they asked.

"This is the team," replied Thorpe.

"Only two of you?"

"Only one," Jim said with a smile. "This fellow's the manager."


http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/bday/0528.html

I read a book called Carlisle vs. Army. It features Jim Thorpe and the Indians, and how they helped america accept the native population at the time. Anyway a section of the book details Thorpe's track exploits against Lafayette.

[RichH2]

And even before there was a Goodman, when most of these other pups could only dream of a double-tiered stadium, there was good ol' Taylor.


http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/8743/taylor1972400.jpg Damn , I'm in that picture. The blond with the vacant look. I'm told that was common for me back then.

[RichH2]

the 100th game - 1964 - at Fisher Field


http://cdm.lafayette.edu/cgi-bin/getimage.exe?CISOROOT=/cap&CISOPTR=1147&DMSCALE=12.50000&DMWIDTH=700&DMHEIGHT=700&DMX=0&DMY=0&DMTEXT=%20lehigh&REC=9&DMTHUMB=1&DMROTATE=0 Damn, I'm getting too nostalgic. At that game . Other than Army time and birth of 1 daughter ,I've been at every game since 1962. Luckily, I haven't aged at all according to my wife, I'm still as immature about "stupidsports" as always and moreso about or GAME. Amazed she still puts up with me afer all these years

[RichH2]

That is exactly where it came from. The Middle Three existed for 50 years, until Lehigh lost the friggin' cannon.

Geez Bogie ,you gotta stop. We know exactly where the cannon is and we're keeping it!

[carney2]

I hope ESPN college gameday shows up for 150. We would be as boisterous and raucous as any student crowd on that show!

Based on the "information" coming out daily on the Lafayette board, I simply hope there's a 150th worth showing up for.

[RichH2]

Aw, c'mon Carney . How many times has the 3-7 team beat the 7-3 team. Too many for me to be so sure of a win.

[TheRevSFA]

Hell..I kind of want to go to this game based off of this thread..and the history. Maybe 2012.

[Bogus Megapardus]

Hell..I kind of want to go to this game based off of this thread..and the history. Maybe 2012.

Please do. We'd all be more than happy to have you. Watch the PBS documentary and see how many notable people have made it a point to see this game at least once. Tickets sell out quickly, but there are ways of getting them. As a last resort, you just cruise the tailgates until you find someone who is too wasted to actually go into the game.

Since our former conference-mate, Rutgers, quit playing Princeton, this is as close as you can get to witnessing the very birth of college football itself. And it feels like it once you're there.

[Pard4Life]

Aw, c'mon Carney . How many times has the 3-7 team beat the 7-3 team. Too many for me to be so sure of a win.

Um, I really only think it's two times. 2009 and 1968 wins by the Hawkineers were the two most "upset wins" based on record dispairity.

Disclaimer: my post is unreferenced and from the hip, but it's easy to check: open up excel, go to CFB warehouse, cut n paste the LC and LU records side by side, at the end column do a subtraction formula between the LC and LU win columns, rank the highest record disparities, and then manually check the years ranked at the top to see which team won.

[Pard4Life]

And it feels like it once you're there.

Not quite. There were no verbally confrontational and abusive women in 1884.

Though Frankosaurus in early form was there.

[RichH2]

Please do. We'd all be more than happy to have you. Watch the PBS documentary and see how many notable people have made it a point to see this game at least once. Tickets sell out quickly, but there are ways of getting them. As a last resort, you just cruise the tailgates until you find someone who is too wasted to actually go into the game.

Since our former conference-mate, Rutgers, quit playing Princeton, this is as close as you can get to witnessing the very birth of college football itself. And it feels like it once you're there.


Tried once to describe the weekend to a friend, my attempt was woefully inadequate. Brought him with me a few years later. He got it. Plus one can always find a ticket or 2 at the tailgates. Failing that ,the food is great and the libations free of charge

[Bogus Megapardus]

Though Frankosaurus in early form was there.

It was a mere hatchling at the time, but its presence was undeniable when the 8-2 Pards couldn't contain the Carlisle Indian running attack.

[Pard4Life]

You mean the 5-0 Maroon...

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Not quite. There were no verbally confrontational and abusive women in 1884.

Though Frankosaurus in early form was there.

You obviously haven't seen Ken Burns' latest documentary on Prohibition... xlolx

[Pard4Life]

That was the 1920s... I believe it... anything goes... LC was the best in the East, Coolidge was president, stocks soaring, a car cost $100, NFL was a joke... ah those were the days.

[Bogus Megapardus]

Damn , I'm in that picture. The blond with the vacant look. I'm told that was common for me back then.


http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/6791/richh2.png

[Bogus Megapardus]

You mean the 5-0 Maroon...

Right. We ended up 8-2, with losses to Carlisle and Penn. The Maroon shut out Lehigh, naturally.

[ngineer]

Please do. We'd all be more than happy to have you. Watch the PBS documentary and see how many notable people have made it a point to see this game at least once. Tickets sell out quickly, but there are ways of getting them. As a last resort, you just cruise the tailgates until you find someone who is too wasted to actually go into the game.

Since our former conference-mate, Rutgers, quit playing Princeton, this is as close as you can get to witnessing the very birth of college football itself. And it feels like it once you're there.

Including all the blood, afterbirth, alcohol, and cigars....

[Pard4Life]

... the passing out...

[ngineer]

1912 was Carlisle's great season that ended with the game at Army (I think Eisenhower broke his leg in that game versus Thorpe). Lehigh lost to Carlise 34-14, for only its second loss of the season, going 9-2. All-American Pat Pazzetti was the Lehigh QB and NY Times had a big write up on the confrontation. Following year, Carlise visited again, and leading 14-7 late in the game, Lehigh was inside the Carlisel 10, when Thorpe intercepted a pass and ran it back for clinching TD. Both games at Taylor. I remember running down that sideline back in 1970 just to say I 'followed the footsteps'. Hard to believe 41 years ago.

[Pard4Life]

I thought you were going to say "I remember running down that sideline chasing Thorpe."

[RichH2]

That would've been carney

[carney2]

Aw, c'mon Carney . How many times has the 3-7 team beat the 7-3 team. Too many for me to be so sure of a win.

Check out your history, Rich. The favorite usually wins AND covers the spread.

[carney2]

... the passing out...

And the riots. Yes, they were grand spectacles and part of the tradition. We haven't seen a really good one since '93 when Bethlehem's finest pulled their paddy wagon out to the 50 yard line to make loading the miscreants easier. Prior to that, we had the two greatest riots ever - 1975, which I was lucky enough to witness, when the bands could not get on the field for halftime because of the fights and shenanigans, and the second half had to be stopped at least five times because the revelry spilled out of the stands; and 1959 (unfortunately, before even my time) which is the stuff of legends because the gates at the closed end of Taylor Stadium were opened to let the PA State Police motorcycle squadron in to attempt to quell the uprising. They failed. Of course, we remember the reaction in Easton when, for at least two consecutive games (probably 1976 and 1978 as reactions to the 1975 riot), they scheduled 10:00 AM starts to reduce the time for alcohol consumption. They were outwitted by the students who merely treated 10:00 AM Saturday as a late Friday game instead of early Saturday.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Of course, we remember the reaction in Easton when, for at least two consecutive games, they scheduled 10:00 AM starts to reduce the time for alcohol consumption. They were outwitted by the students who merely treated 10:00 AM Saturday as a late Friday game instead of early Saturday.

I don't remember a heck of a lot from either of those games. xlolx

[carney2]

Do you recall that prior to the coming of steel goalposts imbedded in concrete is was rare that a second half point after was kicked in any of these games because the goalposts were usually down by the 3rd quarter?

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Article regarding the 1991 riot..

http://articles.mcall.com/1991-11-24/news/2825219_1_police-officers-lehigh-university-goalposts

[Bogus Megapardus]

Do you recall that prior to the coming of steel goalposts imbedded in concrete is was rare that a second half point after was kicked in any of these games because the goalposts were usually down by the 3rd quarter?


If I recall correctly, they used to remove the metal goalposts at Fisher and construct wooden goalposts just for the game.

[Pard4Life]

The 2002 game was the last time the goalposts came down, and deservedly so. We at least have the intelligence to put in wood posts after that one; Lehigh doesn't. If we win this year (har har) they should come down.

Don't forget the recent phenomenon of Lehigh taunting and overall poor sportsmanship and respect of the rivalry by Cohen.

[van]

Check out your history, Rich. The favorite usually wins AND covers the spread.

Team with the better record usually wins, not sure that always means the better team wins. I think there was an upset in '48 or '49. Carney may remember that one.

[Bogus Megapardus]

Lafayette leads this series all time. Lafayette always must lead the series. There can be no tolerance on College Hill ever to permit those chicken-squawking propellerheads to gain a lead in the series. This is a moral imperative.

[carney2]

Team with the better record usually wins, not sure that always means the better team wins. I think there was an upset in '48 or '49. Carney may remember that one.

OK, wisebutt, that will be me pouring my beer on you whilst you are crying in yours on November 19th.

[van]

OK, wisebutt, that will be me pouring my beer on you whilst you are crying in yours on November 19th.

Well, it's been a few years since I was crying on the Saturday before Thanksgiving, how 'bout you Carney?

[Bogus Megapardus]

Geez, I was trying to be so kind and egalitarian towards those Drinker Twinkies here, showing the great history of the rivalry and all. But no, the featherbrains have to turn this thread into a contest. It's almost time to switch my signature once again, I suppose. So, is this going to be the Lehigh Sucks Raw Sewage thread, or just a pleasant, cooperative discourse on the grand nature of our game?

You decide.

[carney2]

Geez, I was trying to be so kind and egalitarian towards those Drinker Twinkies here, showing the great history of the rivalry and all. But no, the featherbrains have to turn this thread into a contest. It's almost time to switch my signature once again, I suppose. So, is this going to be the Lehigh Sucks Raw Sewage thread, or just a pleasant, cooperative discourse on the grand nature of our game?

You decide.

Sewage! Screw the Squawks!

[van]

Sewage! Screw the Squawks!

That's more like it. Was really getting tired of all the surfer dude and frankasaurus crap. At least when your team sucks, you can turn your attention toward us.

[Bogus Megapardus]

That's more like it. Was really getting tired of all the surfer dude and frankasaurus crap. At least when your team sucks, you can turn your attention toward us.

And when Lehigh is doing moderately well, we can continue to expose your true "colors" in a national forum.

Sewage it is.



Note to AGS Moderators - IT HAS BEGUN. Hands off.

[Pards Rule]

Final Game at Taylor Stadium

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/5812/taylor21tj.jpg

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/1674/taylor106zw.jpg

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/6369/taylor51wt.jpg

http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/4594/taylor16ou.jpg

I was one of the poor 2500-300 souls who braved a cold Novemebr day with a fierce NW wind at 15-20 mph I believe with a WC at -15. The stands emptied at halftime. I was frozen to my seat. I still have a 2x4 painted brown which was a part of one of the seats. Watched them tear down goalpost. That was the quickest 5th quarter ever!! And RIP Globe-Times, merged with the Easton Express to form the Easton Express-Times.

[Pards Rule]

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/6791/richh2.png

What year was that SurferDude??

[van]

And when Lehigh is doing moderately well, we can continue to expose your true "colors" in a national forum.

Sewage it is.



Note to AGS Moderators - IT HAS BEGUN. Hands off.

IT'S ON!

[Pard4Life]

I don't know why those Bird Turds always dumped on Fisher, but Taylor was a *****hole. Great on-campus locale though.

[Pard4Life]

Hey bogie check your messages...

[ngineer]

Article regarding the 1991 riot..

http://articles.mcall.com/1991-11-24/news/2825219_1_police-officers-lehigh-university-goalposts

Yes, I remember that all too well. Had both my kids with me (ages 11 and 5 at the time) and as the confrontations spread up into the stands it got a little tenuous as to whether the 'general spectators' were going to be involved peripherally. This thread is really pulling back some memories. I remember the posts coming down at halftime in 1975 in Taylor when the game was already out of hand. Current AD Sterrett was the Lehigh QB that day.

[ngineer]

I was one of the poor 2500-300 souls who braved a cold Novemebr day with a fierce NW wind at 15-20 mph I believe with a WC at -15. The stands emptied at halftime. I was frozen to my seat. I still have a 2x4 painted brown which was a part of one of the seats. Watched them tear down goalpost. That was the quickest 5th quarter ever!! And RIP Globe-Times, merged with the Easton Express to form the Easton Express-Times.

The only time I have left "The Game" early--had to as I had my, then, 6 year old daughter with me and was truly concerned about her getting frostbite. I had her bundled so you could only see her eyes. She didn't want to leave! She was so upset (because the Lehigh football games were the epitome of our daddy/daughter outings) that I promised her that we'd go back to Taylor before they tore it down, and did so the following April to watch the Brown & White Spring Game, which was usually held, back then, in the old 'natural bowl' that became Goodman.
Curious about the the 2x4' markings as old Taylor only had concrete stands with no 'seats' on top of the concrete ledges..did you bring your own?? (;-)

[Pard4Life]

Another one bites the dust (clap-clap)... Texas-Texas AM... DONE at 117... at least through 2018... Nebraksa-Kansas was tied with Texas-AM at 116 through last year, but now Cornell-Penn will hold the 12 spot to themselves by reaching Game 118 next year. Princeton-Yale is #2 at 133.

[Bogus Megapardus]

I was one of the poor 2500-300 souls who braved a cold Novemebr day with a fierce NW wind at 15-20 mph I believe with a WC at -15. The stands emptied at halftime. I was frozen to my seat. I still have a 2x4 painted brown which was a part of one of the seats. Watched them tear down goalpost. That was the quickest 5th quarter ever!! And RIP Globe-Times, merged with the Easton Express to form the Easton Express-Times.


All I can recall from that game is my toes - how freakin' cold my toes were. We went to a Ukrainian pub after the game on 4th Street somewhere with a Polka band and had a rippin' time. There were 10 or 12 of us, I think, and the owner kept bringing us "Horilka" - a traditional Ukrainian spirit of some sort - and several of us collapsed after many rounds of Zoom/Schwartz/Profigliano. You all recall that game, right?

The owner actually left the bottle on the table for us, one after another, even as he kept repeating that it was against the law to do so and that the police would take his license away.

It was medicinal you understand, given the cold and all.

[Bogus Megapardus]

Taylor was a *****hole. Great on-campus locale though.


Yeah, great on-campus locale. Like Multi-Sport Playground at Georgetown is "on campus." Suckage imitates suckage.

[Pards Rule]

The only time I have left "The Game" early--had to as I had my, then, 6 year old daughter with me and was truly concerned about her getting frostbite. I had her bundled so you could only see her eyes. She didn't want to leave! She was so upset (because the Lehigh football games were the epitome of our daddy/daughter outings) that I promised her that we'd go back to Taylor before they tore it down, and did so the following April to watch the Brown & White Spring Game, which was usually held, back then, in the old 'natural bowl' that became Goodman.
Curious about the the 2x4' markings as old Taylor only had concrete stands with no 'seats' on top of the concrete ledges..did you bring your own?? (;-)

You know you are right - now you mention that they were concrete. It came from the stadium that final game. I rememeber toting it up the hill to where I had parked and trying to figure out how to fit it in my 4 door 86 Escort. Any ideas Ngineer? Perhaps players bench? Was there some kind of banister maybe?? Please also see my post in the "Rhody" thread as I asked you to name a nearby pocket park that figured in my 1981 departure from the game.

[Pards Rule]

All I can recall from that game is my toes - how freakin' cold my toes were. We went to a Ukrainian pub after the game on 4th Street somewhere with a Polka band and had a rippin' time. There were 10 or 12 of us, I think, and the owner kept bringing us "Horilka" - a traditional Ukrainian spirit of some sort - and several of us collapsed after many rounds of Zoom/Schwartz/Profigliano. You all recall that game, right?

The owner actually left the bottle on the table for us, one after another, even as he kept repeating that it was against the law to do so and that the police would take his license away.

It was medicinal you understand, given the cold and all.

I should have mentioned I was one of only about 2K to watch the end of the game - I think it started pretty full and emptied quick. Coldest of the 31 Lehigh games I went to - 1989 I think 2nd (prob tied with 1981!) with the snow squalls at halftime and into the third quarter of the inaugural "Game"at Goodman - warmest probably had to be in my experience the 2009 game and I recall there was a very mild 1982 game. I feel like an old timer!

[Go...gate]

Another one bites the dust (clap-clap)... Texas-Texas AM... DONE at 117... at least through 2018... Nebraksa-Kansas was tied with Texas-AM at 116 through last year, but now Cornell-Penn will hold the 12 spot to themselves by reaching Game 118 next year. Princeton-Yale is #2 at 133.

Just read about that on the ESPN website. The Texas AD really told the Aggies to jump in the lake. That was a famous rivalry with a lot of tradition - they played on Thanksgiving much of the series.

Not happy to see so many of these rivalries go by the boards - it is one of the really special things that sets College Football apart.

[Bogus Megapardus]

The final Taylor game was the year after I was graduated from Lafayette and my girlfriend at the time was a Lehigh senior!

You may now rip me to ***** for dating Saucon Swine. It was inexcusable.

[Go...gate]

Lafayette leads this series all time. Lafayette always must lead the series. There can be no tolerance on College Hill ever to permit those chicken-squawking propellerheads to gain a lead in the series. This is a moral imperative.

LOL! Just spat my water all over the place!

[Go...gate]

The final Taylor game was the year after I was graduated from Lafayette and my girlfriend at the time was a Lehigh senior!

You may now rip me to ***** for dating Saucon Swine. It was inexcusable.

I didn't realize you were so young!

[Bogus Megapardus]

Not happy to see so many of these rivalries go by the boards - it is one of the really special things that sets College Football apart.


Colgate really should start the Thanksgiving game vs Brown once again. We'll establish an Austin Powers time warp so it can be as if there never was a "delay" in the series.

[Bogus Megapardus]

I didn't realize you were so young!

Young, my a$$. I can barely run 6 miles these days.

[Go...gate]

I have seen Lafayette-Lehigh several times over the years. It is a great game and yes, truly a throwback to what College FB is all about. I will never forget Mark LaFair of LU catching passes and running, Mark Bavaro-style, over most of the LC defense in the 1993 game.

[Go...gate]

Young, my a$$. I can barely run 6 miles these days.

That's a hell of a lot longer than I can run any day of the week...

[Bogus Megapardus]

LOL! Just spat my water all over the place!

In the Patriot League community, despise of the filthy feathered fowl is something we all can agree upon and embrace. I sympathize with notion that the league seems to posit the Lafayette-Lehigh rivalry somewhat unjustly above some of our other great, historic traditions, but Pard fans always invite our good friends to join in the universal hatred of All Things Brown.

So raise a glass and join in the call - if it's brown, flush it down!

[Bogus Megapardus]

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/364/goodluckcrop.png



Yep, we're gonna win. I just know it.

[van]

http://trialx.com/curetalk/wp-content/blogs.dir/7/files/2011/04/gcelebrities/Richard_Simmons-3.jpg

Good luck Leopards, Richard

[Engineer86]

Bump, this thread had some great history and photos

[ngineer]

It's HERE!!! Rivalry Week! Bloodletting Week! The greatest week of tradition of any game, at any level, in the country. Bring it on!!xthumbsupxxnodx

[Bogus Megapardus]

Bump, this thread had some great history and photos

Very true. I know the Lehigh fans going to love how that Richard Simmons photo will come out after a little Photoshop magic. Richard is wearing brown, after all . . .

[RichH2]

IfonlyBogie could photosop a real football team for the Pards.

[van]

IfonlyBogie could photosop a real football team for the Pards.

It would have to be in brown and white!

[Ivytalk]

It's HERE!!! Rivalry Week! Bloodletting Week! The greatest week of hyperbole of any game, at any level, in the country. Bring it on!!xthumbsupxxnodx

FIFY!:pxsmiley_wix

[Lehigh Football Nation]

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Lehigh-Football-Nation/25866092683

Big Daddy Kane is today's song to get Lehigh fans pumped up.

It will be nice to squash the Leopards on the way to the playoffs.

[Bogus Megapardus]

It would have to be in brown and white!

I accept that challenge.

[heath]

Damn,another year of this crap......forgot how this thread spread like a virus last season. When you're the cub scouts of the military I guess anything tickles your fancy.BTW,isn't a rivalry supposed to be competitive? A chance to have a sellout game and not blame the students for 10,000 empty seats. You Lehigh Valley old farts get liquored up and enjoy the 147th,because most of you will not see another game until the 148th....pathetic.Safety school,ugly girls and blah blah blah...............Let the games begin:(

[Engineer86]

Damn,another year of this crap......forgot how this thread spread like a virus last season. When you're the cub scouts of the military I guess anything tickles your fancy.BTW,isn't a rivalry supposed to be competitive? A chance to have a sellout game and not blame the students for 10,000 empty seats. You Lehigh Valley old farts get liquored up and enjoy the 147th,because most of you will not see another game until the 148th....pathetic.Safety school,ugly girls and blah blah blah...............Let the games begin:(

It's ok that you could not get into one of these schools and had to settle for a safety school. I am sure you got into some low level VA school. Just too bad that you have no clue what the game is about, or maybe you just wish you had this type of rivalry.

[Bogus Megapardus]

Damn,another year of this crap......forgot how this thread spread like a virus last season. When you're the cub scouts of the military I guess anything tickles your fancy.BTW,isn't a rivalry supposed to be competitive? A chance to have a sellout game and not blame the students for 10,000 empty seats. You Lehigh Valley old farts get liquored up and enjoy the 147th,because most of you will not see another game until the 148th....pathetic.Safety school,ugly girls and blah blah blah...............Let the games begin:(

Why not enjoy your own rivalry, whatever that might be, and permit us to enjoy our own according to our custom?

[RichH2]

Why not enjoy your own rivalry, whatever that might be, and permit us to enjoy our own according to our custom?

Methinks his only rivalry is with tieing his shoes.

[heath]

It's ok that you could not get into one of these schools and had to settle for a safety school. I am sure you got into some low level VA school. Just too bad that you have no clue what the game is about, or maybe you just wish you had this type of rivalry.

86,I feel your pain dude...........If I had a choice between those two schools and actually thought either had relevant football programs to support,I'd be all over the so called rivalry too.Enjoy the week and hope Lehigh gets a chance to travel down south in the playoffs,wish I could say the same for Lafayette,but they decided not to participate in winning games this year.To make you feel more happy and gay,I do pick you guys to win by 2 scores.xthumbsupx

[heath]

Methinks his only rivalry is with tieing his shoes.

My work shoes or safety shoes or the ugly brown ones?;)

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Any update on Barket?

[LehighU11]

Any update on Barket?

According to his twitter, @ZBarket, he's having surgery tomorrow on a "broken leg and torn ligaments in (his) ankle." Sounds about as bad as it can get.

[Pards Rule]

Wow - bad news on that front. I will be in Goodman for my 32nd Saturday! Closing in on the big 5-0!

[Twentysix]

Go lafayette!

[HailSzczur]

One of my LC friends sent me this.
https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/277043_267637919941521_807602475_n.jpg
The back reads 1% of students prefer Lehigh to Lafayette...We are the 99%

Thought it was pretty good, but I'm still pulling for Lehigh, I almost ended up there instead of Nova I liked it so much.

[Ivytalk]

One of my LC friends sent me this.
https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/277043_267637919941521_807602475_n.jpg
The back reads 1% of students prefer Lehigh to Lafayette...We are the 99%

Thought it was pretty good, but I'm still pulling for Lehigh, I almost ended up there instead of Nova I liked it so much.

Great shirt!

[van]

One of my LC friends sent me this.
https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/277043_267637919941521_807602475_n.jpg
The back reads 1% of students prefer Lehigh to Lafayette...We are the 99%

Seems about right, we take the cream of the crop and Laugh At can pick from the rest.

[Pard4Life]

Gee that shirt makes sense... especially when Lafayette graduates one of the top average income graduates and top lifetime earners... did not see Lehigh on the list.

[Franks Tanks]

According to his twitter, @ZBarket, he's having surgery tomorrow on a "broken leg and torn ligaments in (his) ankle." Sounds about as bad as it can get.

Hate to see Barket go down. That kind of injury will impact him into next year as well.

If it makes you feel any better Lafayette has 20 guys currently listed as out for the season. That does not even include starting RB Pat Mputu who has been suspened for the 2nd time this year.

[Franks Tanks]

Damn,another year of this crap......forgot how this thread spread like a virus last season. When you're the cub scouts of the military I guess anything tickles your fancy.BTW,isn't a rivalry supposed to be competitive? A chance to have a sellout game and not blame the students for 10,000 empty seats. You Lehigh Valley old farts get liquored up and enjoy the 147th,because most of you will not see another game until the 148th....pathetic.Safety school,ugly girls and blah blah blah...............Let the games begin:(

For someone who hates both schools you spend an inordinate amount of time talking about them, and the PL in general. Just go way if you don't like it.

[RichH2]

Feel sorry for Barket,very tough injury. Prognosis would not be good for his return even next year. I hope surgery goes well. We will have him in our prayers.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

One of my LC friends sent me this.
https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/277043_267637919941521_807602475_n.jpg
The back reads 1% of students prefer Lehigh to Lafayette...We are the 99%

Thought it was pretty good, but I'm still pulling for Lehigh, I almost ended up there instead of Nova I liked it so much.

How fitting. An aimless, hippie movement representing an aimless, hippie team.

[LU90]

Gee that shirt makes sense... especially when Lafayette graduates one of the top average income graduates and top lifetime earners... did not see Lehigh on the list.

Do you mean this list? Because a Google search for "top average income graduates and top lifetime earners" did not return anything of interest. Are you sure your source wasn't The Lafayette?


School Name School Type Starting Median Salary Mid-Career Median Salary
1 Princeton University Private Research Universities, Ivy League $56,900 $130,000
2 California Institute of Technology (Caltech) Private Research Universities, Engineering $69,600 $123,000
3 Harvey Mudd College Liberal Arts, Engineering $64,400 $121,000
4 Harvard University Private Research Universities, Ivy League $54,100 $116,000
5 Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) Private Research Universities, Engineering $69,700 $115,000
6 Dartmouth College Private Research Universities, Ivy League $51,600 $114,000
7 Duke University Private Research Universities $54,400 $113,000
8 Polytechnic Institute of New York University (NYU-Poly) Private Research Universities, Engineering $61,000 $113,000
9 Colgate University Liberal Arts $48,700 $112,000
10 Lehigh University Private Research Universities $57,200 $112,000
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.
.
41 Lafayette College Liberal Arts $51,800 $100,000

Source: http://www.payscale.com/best-colleges/top-us-colleges-graduate-salary-statistics.asp


I guess since The Game won't be much to talk about, Lehigh fans need to spend the week correcting your incorrect and unsupported facts. As a matter of fact, with Colgate (#9), Holy Cross (#12) and Bucknell (#14) it appears Lafayette is near the basement of the Patriot League. Maybe you were referring to the Top 10 Liberal Arts schools that have Maroon in their school colors.

[RichH2]

drat, you beat me to it. Knew I had read this list some time back. Now that we have you, wont need to have Politico fact check all Pard posts

[lehighfball]

Do you mean this list? Because a Google search for "top average income graduates and top lifetime earners" did not return anything of interest. Are you sure your source wasn't The Lafayette?


School Name School Type Starting Median Salary Mid-Career Median Salary
1 Princeton University Private Research Universities, Ivy League $56,900 $130,000
2 California Institute of Technology (Caltech) Private Research Universities, Engineering $69,600 $123,000
3 Harvey Mudd College Liberal Arts, Engineering $64,400 $121,000
4 Harvard University Private Research Universities, Ivy League $54,100 $116,000
5 Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) Private Research Universities, Engineering $69,700 $115,000
6 Dartmouth College Private Research Universities, Ivy League $51,600 $114,000
7 Duke University Private Research Universities $54,400 $113,000
8 Polytechnic Institute of New York University (NYU-Poly) Private Research Universities, Engineering $61,000 $113,000
9 Colgate University Liberal Arts $48,700 $112,000
10 Lehigh University Private Research Universities $57,200 $112,000
.
.
.
41 Lafayette College Liberal Arts $51,800 $100,000

Source: http://www.payscale.com/best-colleges/top-us-colleges-graduate-salary-statistics.asp


I guess since The Game won't be much to talk about, Lehigh fans need to spend the week correcting your incorrect and unsupported facts. As a matter of fact, with Colgate (#9), Holy Cross (#12) and Bucknell (#14) it appears Lafayette is near the basement of the Patriot League. Maybe you were referring to the Top 10 Liberal Arts schools that have Maroon in their school colors.

Hands down Lehigh beats Lafayette on the field and in the corporate arena.

[RichH2]

Pards do have a big edgei in photoshop

[Franks Tanks]

Do you mean this list? Because a Google search for "top average income graduates and top lifetime earners" did not return anything of interest. Are you sure your source wasn't The Lafayette?


School Name School Type Starting Median Salary Mid-Career Median Salary
1 Princeton University Private Research Universities, Ivy League $56,900 $130,000
2 California Institute of Technology (Caltech) Private Research Universities, Engineering $69,600 $123,000
3 Harvey Mudd College Liberal Arts, Engineering $64,400 $121,000
4 Harvard University Private Research Universities, Ivy League $54,100 $116,000
5 Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) Private Research Universities, Engineering $69,700 $115,000
6 Dartmouth College Private Research Universities, Ivy League $51,600 $114,000
7 Duke University Private Research Universities $54,400 $113,000
8 Polytechnic Institute of New York University (NYU-Poly) Private Research Universities, Engineering $61,000 $113,000
9 Colgate University Liberal Arts $48,700 $112,000
10 Lehigh University Private Research Universities $57,200 $112,000
.
.
.
41 Lafayette College Liberal Arts $51,800 $100,000

Source: http://www.payscale.com/best-colleges/top-us-colleges-graduate-salary-statistics.asp


I guess since The Game won't be much to talk about, Lehigh fans need to spend the week correcting your incorrect and unsupported facts. As a matter of fact, with Colgate (#9), Holy Cross (#12) and Bucknell (#14) it appears Lafayette is near the basement of the Patriot League. Maybe you were referring to the Top 10 Liberal Arts schools that have Maroon in their school colors.



PFL must not have seen the recent rankings. In other years this survey ranked Lehigh and Lafayette nearly equal. There was a small difference in the mid-career salary and starting salary.

[RichH2]

PFL must not have seen the recent rankings. In other years this survey ranked Lehigh and Lafayette nearly equal. There was a small difference in the mid-career salary and starting salary.

True for past years. Was looking it up til 90 posted. Is this part of the Weiss gender studies initiative?

[Bogus Megapardus]

Lafayette is an undergraduate college. It doesn't grant graduate degrees with graduate degree incomes. These are the top ten undergraduate colleges, according to the same source:


http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/6089/payscale.png



Actually, Lafayette has two graduate schools. They're named, "Penn" and "Columbia." But data for Lafayette graduates who go on to earn higher degrees (i.e., physicians, lawyers, MBAs) are attributed to those institutions.

Some of the names on that list ought to look familiar to Patriot League nay-sayers.

[RichH2]

Lafayette is an undergraduate college. It doesn't grant graduate degrees with graduate degree incomes. These are the top ten undergraduate colleges, according to the same source:


http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/6089/payscale.png

Still puts Pards way behind lehigh,gate and Bucknell






















































Actually, Lafayette has two graduate schools. They're named, "Penn" and "Columbia." But data for Lafayette graduates who go on to earn higher degrees (i.e., physicians, lawyers, MBAs) are attributed to those institutions.

Some of the names on that list ought to look familiar to Patriot League nay-sayers.

Still puts pards way behind Gate, Lehigh and Bucknell

[Bogus Megapardus]

Still though, it's as true now as it always has been - Friends don't let friends go to Lehigh. To the extent Lehigh graduates earn any income at all, it is solely as a result of liberal federal programs aimed at hiring those with profound intellectual challenges and emotional shortcomings.

Just ask the guy who cleans my gutters.

[lehighfball]

Lafayette is an undergraduate college. It doesn't grant graduate degrees with graduate degree incomes. These are the top ten undergraduate colleges, according to the same source:


http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/6089/payscale.png



Actually, Lafayette has two graduate schools. They're named, "Penn" and "Columbia." But data for Lafayette graduates who go on to earn higher degrees (i.e., physicians, lawyers, MBAs) are attributed to those institutions.

Some of the names on that list ought to look familiar to Patriot League nay-sayers.

What are those two graduate schools called - University of Pennsylvania at Laughfayette and Columbia University at Laughfayette? LMAO. Lafayette is no more of a feeder school than Lehigh for Ivy League graduate admissions.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

What are those two graduate schools called - University of Pennsylvania at Laughfayette and Columbia University at Laughfayette? LMAO. Lafayette is no more of a feeder school than Lehigh for Ivy League graduate admissions.

+1. Many Laffer grads end up at Lehigh for grad school, including football players. Perhaps they wanted to earn a real salary xlolx

[colorless raider]

Hands down Lehigh beats Lafayette on the field and in the corporate arena.

I like it! Go 'Gate!

[lehighfball]

+1. Many Laffer grads end up at Lehigh for grad school, including football players. Perhaps they wanted to earn a real salary xlolx

Perhaps they wanted to do more than pick up garbage or pump gas with that overpriced useless Lafayette degree.

[Franks Tanks]

Still puts pards way behind Gate, Lehigh and Bucknell

Last year Colgate, Bucknell, and Lafayette were in the top 4. Lafayette was something like 1k behind Bucknell. The fact that the data can change so rapidly in one year suggests a small sample size.

[Bogus Megapardus]

Oh, my. Just look at the Lehigh fair-weathers coming out of the woodwork here. Like termites.

"Yea, dost thou fall upon thy face? Thou wilt fall backward when thou hast more wit," said the Nurse, in Romeo and Juliet.

[lehighfball]

Oh, my. Just look at the Lehigh fair-weathers coming out of the woodwork here. Like termites.

"Yea, dost thou fall upon thy face? Thou wilt fall backward when thou hast more wit," said the Nurse, in Romeo and Juliet.

When you're done quoting Shakespeare, I've got some trash that needs to be picked up.

[Go...gate]

Lafayette is an undergraduate college. It doesn't grant graduate degrees with graduate degree incomes. These are the top ten undergraduate colleges, according to the same source:


http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/6089/payscale.png

Actually, Lafayette has two graduate schools. They're named, "Penn" and "Columbia." But data for Lafayette graduates who go on to earn higher degrees (i.e., physicians, lawyers, MBAs) are attributed to those institutions.

Some of the names on that list ought to look familiar to Patriot League nay-sayers.

Hey, Bogus, where did this come from?

[Bogus Megapardus]

When you're done quoting Shakespeare, I've got some trash that needs to be picked up.

That gives me some inspiration for a photoshop. Let's see . . . I'll first need a wretched, brown garbage scow listing down the sewage-saturated Lehigh . . .

Oh, boy, this is going to be great!

[Bogus Megapardus]

Hey, Bogus, where did this come from?

http://www.payscale.com/best-colleges/top-us-colleges-graduate-salary-statistics.asp

Choose the "Liberal Arts" drop-down.

[The Last Engineer]

Oh, my. Just look at the Lehigh fair-weathers coming out of the woodwork here. Like termites.

"Yea, dost thou fall upon thy face? Thou wilt fall backward when thou hast more wit," said the Nurse, in Romeo and Juliet.

While I appreciate your attempt to insult us in iambic pentameter, some people in the crowd are probably visual learners. For their sake, I offer the following example vis-a-vis "fair weather" fans.

We all know that great football programs can always count on the support of their fans regardless of the team's performance or even the weather conditions. Please note all of the Lafasux fans at (smells like) Fish-er Field during a recent 39-13 drubbing of the Lepers at the hands of Bucknell:

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5006/bucknellsnowgame.png

[Bogus Megapardus]

Pards do have a big edge in photoshop

Photoshop is something I picked up as a bit of a hobby, a couple of weeks ago.

At Lehigh, they spend four years learning that it's too complicated for their limited spatial abilities.

[heath]

Lafayette is a national liberal arts college,meaning they focus on undergrad education,with the majority of degrees awarded in the liberal arts fields of study.They are ranked 40. Last time I checked it was much cheaper just to go to your local community college and become that kindergarten teacher....Lehigh is a national university,(ranked 38)meaning they offer a full range of majors and masters degrees.Colleges in this category are also focused on ground breaking research per U.S.News.-Its like comparing a Ford Focus to a BMW 3 series,the Ford owners like what they have(because the don't know any better),but its not a Beamer.Hope this clears things up for you people with a degree from either school.
Lehigh Academics +1 or more

[Pard4Life]

Do you mean this list? Because a Google search for "top average income graduates and top lifetime earners" did not return anything of interest. Are you sure your source wasn't The Lafayette?


School Name School Type Starting Median Salary Mid-Career Median Salary
1 Princeton University Private Research Universities, Ivy League $56,900 $130,000
2 California Institute of Technology (Caltech) Private Research Universities, Engineering $69,600 $123,000
3 Harvey Mudd College Liberal Arts, Engineering $64,400 $121,000
4 Harvard University Private Research Universities, Ivy League $54,100 $116,000
5 Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) Private Research Universities, Engineering $69,700 $115,000
6 Dartmouth College Private Research Universities, Ivy League $51,600 $114,000
7 Duke University Private Research Universities $54,400 $113,000
8 Polytechnic Institute of New York University (NYU-Poly) Private Research Universities, Engineering $61,000 $113,000
9 Colgate University Liberal Arts $48,700 $112,000
10 Lehigh University Private Research Universities $57,200 $112,000
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.
.
41 Lafayette College Liberal Arts $51,800 $100,000

Source: http://www.payscale.com/best-colleges/top-us-colleges-graduate-salary-statistics.asp


I guess since The Game won't be much to talk about, Lehigh fans need to spend the week correcting your incorrect and unsupported facts. As a matter of fact, with Colgate (#9), Holy Cross (#12) and Bucknell (#14) it appears Lafayette is near the basement of the Patriot League. Maybe you were referring to the Top 10 Liberal Arts schools that have Maroon in their school colors.

This is your first post on AGS? Well, the termites do come out this week...

That's right... just like LFN, my posts are from the hip and unreferenced. I do not check any facts.

Anyhow, I was probably thinking of the liberal arts pay scale I saw awhile ago. Come to think of it, we are both the one percent so this is like arguing whose yacht is bigger... eh. It makes sense though since Lehigh graduates more engineers and accountants.

[Bogus Megapardus]

While I appreciate your attempt to insult us in iambic pentameter, some people in the crowd are probably visual learners. For their sake, I offer the following example vis-a-vis "fair weather" fans.


When presenting oneself on a field of battle to engage in a war of wits, Engineer, it's best not to arrive unarmed. You see, I was the one who took those photos.

Perhaps you'd do better to enumerate your whereabouts at all of Lehigh's games this season.

Vis-a-vis my arse, if you will.

[HailSzczur]

Lafayette is a national liberal arts college,meaning they focus on undergrad education,with the majority of degrees awarded in the liberal arts fields of study.They are ranked 40. Last time I checked it was much cheaper just to go to your local community college and become that kindergarten teacher....Lehigh is a national university,(ranked 38)meaning they offer a full range of majors and masters degrees.Colleges in this category are also focused on ground breaking research per U.S.News.-Its like comparing a Ford Focus to a BMW 3 series,the Ford owners like what they have(because the don't know any better),but its not a Beamer.Hope this clears things up for you people with degree from either school.

I don't think either side needs anything cleared up. The impression I got visiting both schools during the college application process is that they know eachother very well and try to find a way to get a leg up in anyway possible. It doesn't just apply to sports, its all facets of the schools. When I attended admissions presentations at both schools the admissions departments referred to "the other L school" Even the deans of the Engineering Schools referenced the other school. Pretty neat if you ask me though

[Pard4Life]

While I appreciate your attempt to insult us in iambic pentameter, some people in the crowd are probably visual learners. For their sake, I offer the following example vis-a-vis "fair weather" fans.

We all know that great football programs can always count on the support of their fans regardless of the team's performance or even the weather conditions. Please note all of the Lafasux fans at (smells like) Fish-er Field during a recent 39-13 drubbing of the Lepers at the hands of Bucknell:

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5006/bucknellsnowgame.png

Fair weather fans... in a snowstorm? Um, here are some real fair weather South Mountain statistics...

9/10/2011 vs. UNH... 7,519
9/24/2011 vs. Liberty... 6,185... on Homecoming!
10/1/2011 vs. Yale... 6,072

[lehighfball]

That gives me some inspiration for a photoshop. Let's see . . . I'll first need a wretched, brown garbage scow listing down the sewage-saturated Lehigh . . .

Oh, boy, this is going to be great!

Photoshop away but don't forget, my trash is still waiting. You're late.

[LehighU11]

HailSzczur, I noticed you went to Shanahan from a post of our football stadium. What year did you graduate? I'm from '07.

[Bogus Megapardus]

Lafayette is a national liberal arts college,meaning they focus on undergrad education,with the majority of degrees awarded in the liberal arts fields of study.They are ranked 40. Last time I checked it was much cheaper just to go to your local community college and become that kindergarten teacher....Lehigh is a national university,(ranked 38)meaning they offer a full range of majors and masters degrees.Colleges in this category are also focused on ground breaking research per U.S.News.-Its like comparing a Ford Focus to a BMW 3 series,the Ford owners like what they have(because the don't know any better),but its not a Beamer.Hope this clears things up for you people with a degree from either school.
Lehigh Academics +1 or more

We know that you can neither spell, conjugate, structure nor elucidate. Have you a specific disability of which we ought to take pity? Just where did you go to school, fine sirrah, and what little short bus took you there?

Really, don't try to run with the big boys unless you grow some heft down there. It's truly unbefitting.

[HailSzczur]

HailSzczur, I noticed you went to Shanahan from a post of our football stadium. What year did you graduate? I'm from '07.

Just this past year, '11

[RichH2]

Photoshop is something I picked up as a bit of a hobby, a couple of weeks ago.

At Lehigh, they spend four years learning that it's too complicated for their limited spatial abilities.

Isn't this week fun. Bout time you started slapping back. Photoshop must be required therapy at the Home. Look glad to see Lafayette finally started a gender studies program to explain to the boys the difference between boys and girls and to stop buggering one another

[Bogus Megapardus]

I don't think either side needs anything cleared up. The impression I got visiting both schools during the college application process is that they know eachother very well and try to find a way to get a leg up in anyway possible. It doesn't just apply to sports, its all facets of the schools. When I attended admissions presentations at both schools the admissions departments referred to "the other L school" Even the deans of the Engineering Schools referenced the other school. Pretty neat if you ask me though

HailSzcur now has set the standard for interloping acceptably in a Lafayette/Lehigh thread. Heath, whomsoever you might be, take notice.

[Pard4Life]

Photoshop away but don't forget, my trash is still waiting. You're late.

They don't collect trash in the ghetto.

[LehighU11]

Isn't this week fun. Bout time you started slapping back. Photoshop must be required therapy at the Home. Look glad to see Lafayette finally started a gender studies program to explain to the boys the difference between boys and girls and to stop buggering one another

Now if only they can stop them from buggering the squirrels... xnonox

[lehighfball]

They don't collect trash in the ghetto.

I don't know who collects Laffayette's trash, I'm just waiting for the garbage man to pick mine up. He's too busy photoshopping and quoting Shakespeare to make his rounds.

[heath]

We know that you can neither spell, conjugate, structure nor elucidate. Have you a specific disability of which we ought to take pity? Just where did you go to school, fine sirrah, and what little short bus took you there?

Really, don't try to run with the big boys unless you grow some heft down there. It's truly unbefitting.

Didn't need to go to college,take loans, ask for gov't assistance etc.and then pretend that because I have a degree from a small liberal arts school in PA, I'am somebody.Next time you want to leave your rat hole,make the drive to Morehead City and I will take you out on my boat,or we can just spend the day at the beach house on Emerald Isle-your choice.I don't like to brag about what I have,or how much I make,but seems almost necessary with you so called 'big boys".......please. Now go back to your little school bus

[ngineer]

sorry to hear this

I saw a rising star RB in this kid, possibly among the best RB's in the FCS by senior year...

Still a rising star. With the surgery being done so soon, he should be rarin' to go come August. I'm sure he won't participate in Spring drills. Fitz's time to shine! A Senior going to get his first career start at a TB and in his last game against LC. Could be a great story.

[Pard4Life]

I have some interesting information that I compiled in Excel on the Lafayette-Lehigh series. Traditionally either side has accepted that 'records don't matter in this rivalry.' However, this is not quite the truth. The team that is three games better than the other almost always wins the game, save for a few rare instances.

When Lafayette has a three game advantage, the Leopards are 27-5-0.
When Lehigh has a three game advantage, the Hawkineers are 25-1-0.

In this week's scenario, with Lafayette coming off of a loss and Lehigh a win, Lafayette is 8-19-1.

When Lehigh has entered the game with an eight game winning streak, they are 4-1.

The "biggest" showdown in Lafayette-Lehigh was 1981 and 2004, when both schools entered with a combined 16 wins. Lafayette won both games and entered each game with a one-game winning streak. Lehigh had won four and eight games respectively.

The next "biggest" showdown was 2005, when both teams combined for 15 wins entering the game. Lafayette also won.

If you have any other data questions, just ask...

[LU90]

HailSzcur now has set the standard for interloping acceptably in a Lafayette/Lehigh thread. Heath, whomsoever you might be, take notice.

Get it right, its Lehigh/Lafayette. Your way just sounds stupid.

[Pard4Life]

Still a rising star. With the surgery being done so soon, he should be rarin' to go come August. I'm sure he won't participate in Spring drills. Fitz's time to shine! A Senior going to get his first career start at a TB and in his last game against LC. Could be a great story.

But with a completely busted leg? Don't most people need a cane or walk with a limp for the rest of their days?

[Pard4Life]

Get it right, its Lehigh/Lafayette. Your way just sounds stupid.

No, it's Lafayette-Lehigh... we have more wins. You have it wrong.

[RichH2]

I have some interesting information that I compiled in Excel on the Lafayette-Lehigh series. Traditionally either side has accepted that 'records don't matter in this rivalry.' However, this is not quite the truth. The team that is three games better than the other almost always wins the game, save for a few rare instances.

When Lafayette has a three game advantage, the Leopards are 27-5-0.
When Lehigh has a three game advantage, the Hawkineers are 25-1-0.

In this week's scenario, with Lafayette coming off of a loss and Lehigh a win, Lafayette is 8-19-1.

When Lehigh has entered the game with an eight game winning streak, they are 4-1.

The "biggest" showdown in Lafayette-Lehigh was 1981 and 2004, when both schools entered with a combined 16 wins. Lafayette won both games and entered each game with a one-game winning streak. Lehigh had won four and eight games respectively.

The next "biggest" showdown was 2005, when both teams combined for 15 wins entering the game. Lafayette also won.

If you have any other data questions, just ask...


Thanks P4L very interesting .Nice research. Before our younger posters get too carried away we have a ways to go to take series lead away from Pards. This year will be a 4th in a row towards that goal

[Franks Tanks]

Lafayette is a national liberal arts college,meaning they focus on undergrad education,with the majority of degrees awarded in the liberal arts fields of study.They are ranked 40. Last time I checked it was much cheaper just to go to your local community college and become that kindergarten teacher....Lehigh is a national university,(ranked 38)meaning they offer a full range of majors and masters degrees.Colleges in this category are also focused on ground breaking research per U.S.News.-Its like comparing a Ford Focus to a BMW 3 series,the Ford owners like what they have(because the don't know any better),but its not a Beamer.Hope this clears things up for you people with a degree from either school.
Lehigh Academics +1 or more

Heath-- you are so off base it is barely worth a response. I guess this is what you get from a guy who spends all day telling customers he is sorry their hamburger is overcooked.

Lehigh is a national university, but their graduate programs are rather limited and most grad students are part-time MBA or education students. Lehigh has very solid programs in these areas, but they aren't curing cancer on the Southside. This isn't Hopkins or UCLA. A kindergarten teacher is a worthy profession so I will not make fun of them, but only at Lehigh can a student earn a degree that qualifies them to do this job.

You don't even know what "liberal arts" means. Economics for example is considered a liberal arts major. Lafayette has just was many students majoring in engineering, chemistry, biology and the sciences as they do History and English. Just go away as you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

[ngineer]

This is your first post on AGS? Well, the termites do come out this week...

That's right... just like LFN, my posts are from the hip and unreferenced. I do not check any facts.

Anyhow, I was probably thinking of the liberal arts pay scale I saw awhile ago. Come to think of it, we are both the one percent so this is like arguing whose yacht is bigger... eh. It makes sense though since Lehigh graduates more engineers and accountants.

..Than Lafayette, that is certainly correct, but I would bet the number of B.A. and B.S.'s awarded in the Arts and Sciences may also exceed. 40% of the student body is enrolled in the College of Arts and Sciences with many going on to post-grads in architecture, medicine, and law.

[LehighU11]

No, it's Lafayette-Lehigh... we have more wins. You have it wrong.

It's Lehigh-Lafayette. We're academically superior, have more alumni who are also more successful, possess a much greater endowment, and have 4 more Patriot League titles than you. We also have more beat-looking girls from New Jersey.

[Pard4Life]

Thanks P4L very interesting .Nice research. Before our younger posters get too carried away we have a ways to go to take series lead away from Pards. This year will be a 4th in a row towards that goal

Well depends on how you look at it... I see it as you recovering our gain from 2004-2007.

[ngineer]

Isn't this week fun. Bout time you started slapping back. Photoshop must be required therapy at the Home. Look glad to see Lafayette finally started a gender studies program to explain to the boys the difference between boys and girls and to stop buggering one another


From what I'm hearing there is a fair amount of 'buggering' each other on the same side of the fence...Some interesting lawsuits over the past year or so amongst the distaff side personnel at Laughyette...xshhhxxeekx

[The Last Engineer]

When presenting oneself on a field of battle to engage in a war of wits, Engineer, it's best not to arrive unarmed. You see, I was the one who took those photos.

Perhaps you'd do better to enumerate your whereabouts at all of Lehigh's games this season.

Vis-a-vis my arse, if you will.


I am keenly aware that you took those photos. I found it amusing to use photos that you took to make light of your fair weather fans jab. Therein lies the wit as you in essence made my point for me. Merely saying that the other person does not have wit is the rhetorical equivalent of photoshopping pictures and... wait... never mind.

To enumerate my whereabouts for Lehigh games this year, you need only look at our 2011 schedule, as I have attended every game. But, hey, thanks for putting me in my place. Your perspicacity is most impressive for someone saddled with the comparative disadvantage of an Easton education.

I heard some very good news on Saturday. Tavani evidently has a long-term contract and Lafayette can't afford to buy him out of it.

[lehighfball]

Heath-- you are so off base it is barely worth a response. I guess this is what you get from a guy who spends all day telling customers he is sorry their hamburger is overcooked.

Lehigh is a national university, but their graduate programs are rather limited and most grad students are part-time MBA or education students. Lehigh has very solid programs in these areas, but they aren't curing cancer on the Southside. This isn't Hopkins or UCLA. A kindergarten teacher is a worthy profession so I will not make fun of them, but only at Lehigh can a student earn a degree that qualifies them to do this job.

You don't even know what "liberal arts" means. Economics for example is considered a liberal arts major. Lafayette has just was many students majoring in engineering, chemistry, biology and the sciences as they do History and English. Just go away as you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

FYI you can't get an undergraduate degree in Education at Lehigh. You also don't know much about Lehigh's grad school. Most in the MBA program are full-time. There are also many full-time engineering students attaining their masters and doctorate degrees. No matter how much you try to downplay Lehigh, one thing is certain, it offers much more than Lafayette.

[Franks Tanks]

FYI you can't get an undergraduate degree in Education at Lehigh. You also don't know much about Lehigh's grad school. Most in the MBA program are full-time. There are also many full-time engineering students attaining their masters and doctorate degrees. No matter how much you try to downplay Lehigh, one thing is certain, it offers much more than Lafayette.

You can get a graduate degree and cert in education at Lehigh. Lafayette is a liberal arts college and by nature has a different mission. The mission is not necessarily better or worse, just different.

You say we don't have graduate programs and obviously that is true as the mission at Lafayette has always been undergraduate education. I in turn can point out that Lehigh has TA's who play a large role in many classes, while at Lafayette every class is taught by a professor with a terminal degree in his subject.

[RichH2]

Well depends on how you look at it... I see it as you recovering our gain from 2004-2007.

Well , OK but we still have aways to go to overcome some of those ridiculous 10 and 12 game streaks Pards had in decades gone by

[Pard4Life]

It's Lehigh-Lafayette.

No, it's Lafayette-Lehigh. We have more wins.


We're academically superior

Chugging and keg stands are not 'academics'.


have more alumni who are also more successful

Not really... it's probably even. We have an alum that is the #2 at the most powerful and valuable company in the world to give you an example.


possess a much greater endowment

I would hope so... you are twice our size and are a research university... and even then we are about 70% of your endowment!


and have 4 more Patriot League titles than you.

We have three national championships and seven people in the College Football Hall of Fame, two and six more than you.


We also have more beat-looking girls from New Jersey.

I sympathize with you. Seriously.

[heath]

Heath-- you are so off base it is barely worth a response. I guess this is what you get from a guy who spends all day telling customers he is sorry their hamburger is overcooked.

Lehigh is a national university, but their graduate programs are rather limited and most grad students are part-time MBA or education students. Lehigh has very solid programs in these areas, but they aren't curing cancer on the Southside. This isn't Hopkins or UCLA. A kindergarten teacher is a worthy profession so I will not make fun of them, but only at Lehigh can a student earn a degree that qualifies them to do this job.

You don't even know what "liberal arts" means. Economics for example is considered a liberal arts major. Lafayette has just was many students majoring in engineering, chemistry, biology and the sciences as they do History and English. Just go away as you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

Sorry,forgot to mention social worker too. I understand where you're coming from,some of my most valuable and dedicated employees have had liberal arts degrees and I found that they were useful in my business. Someone needs to do the ordering and balance the books,even wait tables..... so lighten up.xnodx

[Bogus Megapardus]

Sorry,forgot to mention social worker too. I understand where you're coming from,some of my most valuable and dedicated employees have had liberal arts degrees and I found that they were useful in my business. Someone needs to do the ordering and balance the books,even wait tables..... so lighten up.xnodx

Lemme guess . . . you work for the Obama administration, am I right? Sounds like you've got the credentials.

[Franks Tanks]

Sorry,forgot to mention social worker too. I understand where you're coming from,some of my most valuable and dedicated employees have had liberal arts degrees and I found that they were useful in my business. Someone needs to do the ordering and balance the books,even wait tables..... so lighten up.xnodx

A liberal arts degree from generic state U has nothing in common with degree from Lafayette or other high quality institutions.

[The Last Engineer]

Lemme guess . . . you work for the Obama administration, am I right? Sounds like you've got the credentials.

Wouldn't that be more consistent with someone who graduated from a liberal arts college?

[Bogus Megapardus]

THEY'RE BACK!!!!

Just in this week, in time for the game. Vintage wash, just like they wore in granddad's day!


http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9491/squawkersshirt.png


Available in feathers, too, with or without tar. Please state species and genus when ordering.

[Pard4Life]

FYI you can't get an undergraduate degree in Education at Lehigh. You also don't know much about Lehigh's grad school. Most in the MBA program are full-time. There are also many full-time engineering students attaining their masters and doctorate degrees. No matter how much you try to downplay Lehigh, one thing is certain, it offers much more than Lafayette.

Not true...

The Lehigh MBA Fall 2011
Full Time 18%
Part Time 82%

I think there are only about 100 students in the full-time program too. Given Lehigh's presence in undergrad business, its MBA program is disappointing. It looks like Lehigh mainly partners with corporations, a reason for such a high part-time rate.

[Franks Tanks]

Wouldn't that be more consistent with someone who graduated from a liberal arts college?

Yes, the liberal moniker has to do with politics! That is exactly right.

[lehighfball]

You can get a graduate degree and cert in education at Lehigh. Lafayette is a liberal arts college and by nature has a different mission. The mission is not necessarily better or worse, just different.

Sorry, I musunderstood your post, I thought you meant that Lehigh offers an undergraduate degree in education. As a national private research university, Lehigh's mission is definitely different than Lafayette's. Lehigh has more to offer.

[Bogus Megapardus]

Wouldn't that be more consistent with someone who graduated from a liberal arts college?


Lafayette is a Conservative Arts College. Some elements are seeking to infiltrate, but I trust they'll soon be apprehended.

[Franks Tanks]

Sorry, I musunderstood your post, I thought you meant that Lehigh offers an undergraduate degree in education. As a national private research university, Lehigh's mission is definitely different than Lafayette's. Lehigh has more to offer.

More is not necessarily better, it is just more.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

While I appreciate your attempt to insult us in iambic pentameter...


We know that you can neither spell, conjugate, structure nor elucidate.

God, I love this time of year.

[lehighfball]

Not true...

The Lehigh MBA Fall 2011
Full Time 18%
Part Time 82%

I think there are only about 100 students in the full-time program too. Given Lehigh's presence in undergrad business, its MBA program is disappointing. It looks like Lehigh mainly partners with corporations, a reason for such a high part-time rate.

I thought it was much higher than that. I wouldn't go as far as to call its MBA program disappointing. An MBA from Lehigh still carries weight.

[Doc QB]

Chugging and keg stands are not 'academics'...(re: beat Jersey girls) I sympathize with you. Seriously.

To the former, a worthy endeavor nonetheless and when a champion of, makes the latter more enjoyable.
Boy, I miss those days...

[heath]

More is not necessarily better, it is just more.

I'am sure you have heard this quite often,but trust me,.. and her...more is always betterxthumbsupx

[RichH2]

To the former, a worthy endeavor nonetheless and when a champion of, makes the latter more enjoyable.
Boy, I miss those days...

Dont we all,a little Zoom, schwartz would warm my old bones. Trolling the Hill from Kappa Sig on down." Work hard party hard", gotme thru Lehigh quite satisfactorily then the Army and then Law school. Now I AARP hard

[Franks Tanks]

I'am sure you have heard this quite often,but trust me,.. and her...more is always betterxthumbsupx

Table 7 needs a diet coke refill. Get on that.

[AmsterBison]

I really want to drive to this game next year. Do they really stop selling tickets? And what's the tailgating like?

[LehighU11]

To the former...when a champion of, makes the latter more enjoyable.

That it does, that it does.

[Pard4Life]

I thought it was much higher than that. I wouldn't go as far as to call its MBA program disappointing. An MBA from Lehigh still carries weight.

I think it is somewhat disappointing... I looked into the program and saw how small it was. Usually one the things to look for in an MBA program is the class size since you learn from your classmates' experience during discussions and projects. Lehigh should really ramp up the program; I bet it could become nationally renowned fairly quickly. Maybe not as profitable as a law school but it would add to the bottom line too.

[RichH2]

I really want to drive to this game next year. Do they really stop selling tickets? And what's the tailgating like?

Sold out but you can usually get a ticket or two at the gate. Tailgating quite tasty

[LehighU11]

I really want to drive to this game next year. Do they really stop selling tickets? And what's the tailgating like?

If you want a ticket as a non-student, you'll have to buy one off of someone. Students and season ticket-holders guaranteed, then alumni waiting list. So you can shell out $49 for a 3 game mini-plan that will get you a ticket.

Here's a video of the student tailgate scene on Lafayette's campus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J0LTx2_KH8

Lehigh's athletic campus is sprawling, with tailgating throughout grass fields and parking lots.

[Pard4Life]

To the former, a worthy endeavor nonetheless and when a champion of, makes the latter more enjoyable.
Boy, I miss those days...

UGH!! No no no no no! As a Lafayette guy, I am crossing 'party' lines here to save you from yourself. A pig with lipstick is still a pig!

[LehighU11]

I sympathize with you. Seriously.

You see what we have to deal with: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofNjrTvN_Ws&feature=related

[Pard4Life]

You see what we have to deal with: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofNjrTvN_Ws&feature=related

The shirt says it all....

[LU90]

UGH!! No no no no no! As a Lafayette guy, I am crossing 'party' lines here to save you from yourself. A pig with lipstick is still a pig!

http://www.myteespot.com/images/thumbs/img_I1sK4c.jpg

Sorry, had to do it.

[LehighU11]

I am crossing 'party' lines here to save you from yourself. A pig with lipstick is still a pig!

Methinks P4L is Sarah Palin in leopard's clothing...

[Doc QB]

UGH!! No no no no no! As a Lafayette guy, I am crossing 'party' lines here to save you from yourself. A pig with lipstick is still a pig!

A pig with lipstick at 3am after an eveninglong failed effort (with more aesthetically pleasing coeds in more appropriate weight class) is still a victory.

Well, until the light of day and review of the game film shows really how bad you did....

And I still miss those days....

[Bogus Megapardus]

I really want to drive to this game next year. Do they really stop selling tickets? And what's the tailgating like?

Pregame at Lafayette, 2010, on March Field, where Jim Thorpe once ran and Pop Warner coached:


http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/6936/lehighlafayette6crop.jpg


http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/1656/lehighlafayette3crop.jpg



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J0LTx2_KH8

[LehighFan11]

Doesn't look like it, but is anyone selling a ticket? PM me if you are. Thanks

[RichH2]

I think we've beaten the lipstick on a pig analogy to death.Time to start round 2 of the week with some original derogatory and probably libelous posts . Come on people I know you can do it.

[Lafalumni29]

Whatever happens Saturday, us Leopard fans can take comfort in knowing that it didn't take Lehigh dropping their equivalencies or a Div III study to win 4 straight over them!!

http://youtu.be/-7VuYkMXF0A

Go Pards!!!!!!!!

xtroublexxtroublexxtroublexxtroublexxtroublex

[Pard4Life]

I once went on a date with a Lehigh chick. It was a somewhat blind date and she was fatter than I was led to believe. I wanted out the first minute but was kind enough to let the date last over an hour.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Bogus is quiet. Too quiet.

[van]

Bogus is quiet. Too quiet.

Photoshop blitzkrieg coming no doubt.

[The Last Engineer]

Photoshop blitzkrieg coming no doubt.

Maybe he is still getting ready for that "major announcement" from Lafayette President Weiss that was supposed to happen last week. Did *anything* ever happen with that?

[ColgateTD]

Hijacking your thread for a minute to wish both teams "Good Luck and Come Out Fighting - May the Better Team (on Saturday) Win." Look forward to Carney2's assessment after the game :)

[Pard4Life]

Maybe he is still getting ready for that "major announcement" from Lafayette President Weiss that was supposed to happen last week. Did *anything* ever happen with that?

Weiss presented the case for schollies to the faculty and the athletic department. It was not an announcement per se, but more of a presentation of how schollies would work and be integrated into LC. This is a positive sign and we are moving in the direction of yes. Our BOT still needs to vote yes to give Weiss the power to vote in the PL meeting. Weiss could recommend a yes to the BOT, which rubber stamps whatever the President says. I think Weiss is leaning towards recommending a yes, but a formal announcement will not be made until the PL meeting and it will likely be in concert with the others. If we vote no, which I don't think we will, we will still implement.

[Pard4Life]

Bogus is quiet. Too quiet.

Where have you been Mr. Poo-bah IT nerd? Talking about OVCs and Southern Utah... get real.

[ngineer]

I thought it was much higher than that. I wouldn't go as far as to call its MBA program disappointing. An MBA from Lehigh still carries weight.

Partnering with many of the top corporations in providing MBA training is not a bad thing.

[ngineer]

Weiss presented the case for schollies to the faculty and the athletic department. It was not an announcement per se, but more of a presentation of how schollies would work and be integrated into LC. This is a positive sign and we are moving in the direction of yes. Our BOT still needs to vote yes to give Weiss the power to vote in the PL meeting. Weiss could recommend a yes to the BOT, which rubber stamps whatever the President says. I think Weiss is leaning towards recommending a yes, but a formal announcement will not be made until the PL meeting and it will likely be in concert with the others. If we vote no, which I don't think we will, we will still implement.

Your Board is a pathetic bunch. That Greek report was downright laughable..I guess considering the name, it makes sense.

[Pard4Life]

Your Board is a pathetic bunch. That Greek report was downright laughable..I guess considering the name, it makes sense.

They are pathetic! I will join the Lehigh fans throwing beer cans at them.

[van]

Hijacking your thread for a minute to wish both teams "Good Luck and Come Out Fighting - May the Better Team (on Saturday) Win." Look forward to Carney2's assessment after the game :)

Thanks for your support of the better team.

http://www.sheldrickwildlifetrust.org/Desnaring_Files/462007834-pic6.jpg

[LehighU11]

Thanks for your support of the better team.

http://www.sheldrickwildlifetrust.org/Desnaring_Files/462007834-pic6.jpg

Proof that leopards are hated everywhere outside of Easton. I knew my support of the missions in Africa was doing some good in the world!

[LehighLarry]

Greetings from South Bethlehem.

16241

Go Lehigh!

[LU90]

Greetings from South Bethlehem.

16241

Go Lehigh!

Oh, please be careful. If you've read any of their posts after the last 3 losses, apparently some of the Lafayette faithful frown upon vulgarity. They believe the most played rivalry in the history of college football should involve no utterance more crass than "golly gee wilikers".

Additionally for all tailgaters, the only acceptable beverages to be consumed in the presence of a Lafayette fan are Milk or Grape Nehi's.

And one more FYI so as not to offend the visiting fans, "taunting" is also a no-no. I believe their fan base has settled on "Tebowing" as an alternative. Although I do side with them on this. If Lehigh had lost 11 of the last 16 games, I would be tired of seeing Lafayette players jumping around after ANOTHER win.

[ngineer]

Great video at www.Lehighsports.com showing highlights of last year's game at Lafayette, with all of the great goal line stand led by MLB Groome and his great stick at the end, and interspersed with interviews of Coen and some of the players after the Georgetown game.

Forecast for Saturday is partly sunny with high temp of 55 F. Lookin' like a perfect day for football. Lum needs about 100 yards to break the season record, 1 % point increase to break the season completion percentage, 2 TD passes to break the season record. Spadola also needs about 110 yards to break his OC's own reception yardage record and 11 receptions to break Cecchini's record of 88 in 1993.

[LehighU11]

Great video at www.Lehighsports.com showing highlights of last year's game at Lafayette, with all of the great goal line stand led by MLB Groome and his great stick at the end

Gives me chills watching that goal-line stand again. One of the most memorable moments of the 4 games I've been to. That 3rd down stop by Groome was incredible. Hurdling over the O-line and stopping Irving dead in his tracks...wow.

[Pards Rule]

One of my LC friends sent me this.
https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/277043_267637919941521_807602475_n.jpg
The back reads 1% of students prefer Lehigh to Lafayette...We are the 99%

Thought it was pretty good, but I'm still pulling for Lehigh, I almost ended up there instead of Nova I liked it so much.


Love it!! After the pregame, it will be Occupy My Toilet

[Pard4Life]

Gives me chills watching that goal-line stand again. One of the most memorable moments of the 4 games I've been to. That 3rd down stop by Groome was incredible. Hurdling over the O-line and stopping Irving dead in his tracks...wow.

You can credit the stop to our coach. He ran the same play two games ago and everyone in the stadium knew it was coming. I remember yelling on first down that we all know what the play will be. In fact I will be shocked if we don't run the same series if we are inside the three-four. There were about ten Lehigh players in the box.

[RichH2]

They are pathetic! I will join the Lehigh fans throwing beer cans at them.

Since they wont let the kids tear down the goalposts anymore maybe a gauntlet of beer can throwing frosh if the Board even knows a game is being played.

I am relieved by info that Weiss presented merit aid and an implementation explanation. Good for the PL and better for Pards. A repeat of Bball would have been a calamity.

[THE HERD]

Just wanted to wish good luck to the Pards! xthumbsupx

[Lehigh Football Nation]

My first two salvos on "The Rivalry:

http://lehighfootballnation.blogspot.com/2011/11/rivalry.html

The introduction - and how everything got started.

http://lehighfootballnation.blogspot.com/2011/11/flashback-november-25th-1911-lafayette.html

A hundred years ago this year, Lafayette beats Lehigh, 11 to 0, with whispers from both school papers that The Rivalry is starting to become a big time game.

[Engineer91]

http://www.lehighsports.com/sports/football/additional_lehigh-lafayette_tickets_to_go_on_sale_wednesday_at_10_am .aspx

[LehighU11]

The first 400 tickets went in a span of 20 minutes this morning. Looks like one of the largest crowds in Goodman history will see Lehigh hand it to the Pards for the 4th consecutive year.

[RichH2]

A friend of mine was shut out .This AM got 5 hill seats. It will be his kids' first Lehigh- Lafayette game. I expect a large turnout. We are heading down early friday to start the weekend. Hotel rooms ,at least nearby are gone. Thank God for our RV and a fully stocked bar.

[carney2]

A friend of mine was shut out .This AM got 5 hill seats. It will be his kids' first Lehigh- Lafayette game. I expect a large turnout. We are heading down early friday to start the weekend. Hotel rooms ,at least nearby are gone. Thank God for our RV and a fully stocked bar.

Yes, Rich, the biggest weekend of the year. People coming from all over. There are literally no rooms left at the carney2 B&B. The final room was let last night, and that poor soul will be forced to live in sin with my basset hound. On my way out as we speak to stock the liquor closet. I expect that the thrill of victory or the agony of defeat will be pretty well forgotten by 4:30 or so as we make plans to feast on ChickenSquawk in November of 2012.

[RichH2]

Yes, Rich, the biggest weekend of the year. People coming from all over. There are literally no rooms left at the carney2 B&B. The final room was let last night, and that poor soul will be forced to live in sin with my basset hound. On my way out as we speak to stock the liquor closet. I expect that the thrill of victory or the agony of defeat will be pretty well forgotten by 4:30 or so as we make plans to feast on ChickenSquawk in November of 2012.

Spent many an afternoon after Game hoping for better the next yr. If you get to the Game early comeon over to the RVs.Happy to provide some pregame sustenance. Wives make sure its neutral ground prior to kickoff

[Pard4Life]

Well you must be in the "rated G" section because I've seen the women get into it from Lehigh. Must be a Jersey thing.

[RichH2]

Well you must be in the "rated G" section because I've seen the women get into it from Lehigh. Must be a Jersey thing.

Well,my wife a grad of South Carolina. More importantly, all of our group are veterans of at least 40 games. We are over in the adult section. We have a number of mixed marriages,so as I said wives keep everything neutral until gametime.

[carney2]

Spent many an afternoon after Game hoping for better the next yr. If you get to the Game early comeon over to the RVs.Happy to provide some pregame sustenance. Wives make sure its neutral ground prior to kickoff

I don't think you want to see us heading for your RV. Lots to fear, but I will tell you that we have 3 firm rules of attendance and one is No wives.

[RichH2]

I don't think you want to see us heading for your RV. Lots to fear, but I will tell you that we have 3 firm rules of attendance and one is No wives.

We wereable to getaway with stag trips for almost 20 yrs. As wives started to realize howmuch fun it is they quickly eliminated the stag rule. Hasn't slowed us down as much as age. Picture 9 or 10 wives shaking their heads disapprovingly.Sometimes it looks like a collection of bobble head dolls. But the food is much better and honestly more fun