Sports Network/Fathead FCS Top 25 - Week 4

[superman7515]

TSN FCS Top 25 - Week 4 (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/misc/TSN-DIV-1AA-POLL.htm)

1. Georgia Southern Eagles (124) 3-0 3,931 1
2. Northern Iowa Panthers (17) 2-1 3,715 2
3. Appalachian State Mountaineers (8) 3-1 3,540 3
4. Montana State Bobcats (2) 3-1 3,398 4
5. North Dakota State Bison (8) 3-0 3,315 8
6. Delaware Blue Hens (1) 3-1 3,201 7
7. New Hampshire Wildcats 2-1 2,915 11
8. Wofford Terriers 2-1 2,905 9
9. James Madison Dukes 3-1 2,695 12
10. Richmond Spiders 3-1 2,344 5
11. William & Mary Tribe 2-2 2,091 6
12. Southern Illinois Salukis 2-1 2,069 14
13. Lehigh Mountain Hawks 3-1 1,949 15
14. Jacksonville State Gamecocks 3-1 1,795 16
15. Chattanooga Mocs 2-2 1,452 13
16. Sam Houston State Bearkats 3-0 1,449 20
17. Southern Utah Thunderbirds 3-1 1,436 23
18. McNeese State Cowboys 2-1 1,264 19
19. Montana Grizzlies 2-2 1,095 10
20. Massachusetts Minutemen 2-1 911 17
21. South Dakota Coyotes 2-2 736 18
22. South Carolina State Bulldogs 2-2 706 25
23. Towson Tigers 3-0 520 NR
24. Indiana State Sycamores 3-1 447 NR
25. Sacramento State Hornets 2-2 424 NR

Others receiving votes: Tennessee Tech 175, Alabama State 152, Maine 144, Old Dominin 144, Weber State 140, Stephen F. Austin 87, Holy Cross 87, Elon 83, Jackson State 68, Bethune-Cookman 66, Liberty 60, Yale 55, Eastern Washington 50, UT Martin 49, North Dakota 44, Murray State 37, Youngstown State 33, Central Arkansas 24, Portland State 23, Missouri State 21, Norfolk State 21, South Dakota State 17, Coastal Carolina 15, Cal Poly 11, Eastern Kentucky 11, Monmouth 10, Hampton 8, Texas State 7, Furman 7, UC Dvais 6, Alabama A&M 5, San Diego 5, Stony Brook 5, Dayton 5, Harvard 4, South Alabama 3, Rhode Island 3, Northwestern State 3, Jacksonville 3, Tennessee State 2, Georgetown 1, Texas Southern 1, Northern Arizona 1, Villanova 1.

[OhioHen]

Others receiving votes: Tennessee Tech 175, Alabama State 152, Maine 144, Old Dominin 144, Weber State 140, Stephen F. Austin 87, Holy Cross 87, Elon 83, Jackson State 68, Bethune-Cookman 66, Liberty 60, Yale 55, Eastern Washington 50, UT Martin 49, North Dakota 44, Murray State 37, Youngstown State 33, Central Arkansas 24, Portland State 23, Missouri State 21, Norfolk State 21, South Dakota State 17, Coastal Carolina 15, Cal Poly 11, Eastern Kentucky 11, Monmouth 10, Hampton 8, Texas State 7, Furman 7, UC Dvais 6, Alabama A&M 5, San Diego 5, Stony Brook 5, Dayton 5, Harvard 4, South Alabama 3, Rhode Island 3, Northwestern State 3, Jacksonville 3, Tennessee State 2, Georgetown 1, Texas Southern 1, Northern Arizona 1, Villanova 1.

These voters should have their poll participation privileges revoked for eternity.

[UIWWildthing]

23. Towson Tigers 3-0 520 NR
xthumbsupx :D

Highlight of the season for me right there

[Rob Iola]

TSN FCS Top 25 - Week 4 (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/misc/TSN-DIV-1AA-POLL.htm)

Others receiving votes: Tennessee Tech 175, Alabama State 152, Maine 144, Old Dominin 144, Weber State 140, Stephen F. Austin 87, Holy Cross 87, Elon 83, Jackson State 68, Bethune-Cookman 66, Liberty 60, Yale 55, Eastern Washington 50, UT Martin 49, North Dakota 44, Murray State 37, Youngstown State 33, Central Arkansas 24, Portland State 23, Missouri State 21, Norfolk State 21, South Dakota State 17, Coastal Carolina 15, Cal Poly 11, Eastern Kentucky 11, Monmouth 10, Hampton 8, Texas State 7, Furman 7, UC Dvais 6, Alabama A&M 5, San Diego 5, Stony Brook 5, Dayton 5, Harvard 4, South Alabama 3, Rhode Island 3, Northwestern State 3, Jacksonville 3, Tennessee State 2, Georgetown 1, Texas Southern 1, Northern Arizona 1, Villanova 1.

Good to see the voters rewarding North Dakota for their stirring victories over Drake and Black Hills State...

[achrist70]

Really thought the Bison might be a little higher.

[Sycamore51]

I have no idea the last time the Sycamores were ranked. Not as high as I hoped though.

[UNIFanSince1983]

TSN FCS Top 25 - Week 4 (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/misc/TSN-DIV-1AA-POLL.htm)

Others receiving votes: Tennessee Tech 175, Alabama State 152, Maine 144, Old Dominin 144, Weber State 140, Stephen F. Austin 87, Holy Cross 87, Elon 83, Jackson State 68, Bethune-Cookman 66, Liberty 60, Yale 55, Eastern Washington 50, UT Martin 49, North Dakota 44, Murray State 37, Youngstown State 33, Central Arkansas 24, Portland State 23, Missouri State 21, Norfolk State 21, South Dakota State 17, Coastal Carolina 15, Cal Poly 11, Eastern Kentucky 11, Monmouth 10, Hampton 8, Texas State 7, Furman 7, UC Dvais 6, Alabama A&M 5, San Diego 5, Stony Brook 5, Dayton 5, Harvard 4, South Alabama 3, Rhode Island 3, Northwestern State 3, Jacksonville 3, Tennessee State 2, Georgetown 1, Texas Southern 1, Northern Arizona 1, Villanova 1.

Along with this person.

[FargoBison]

How can anyone justify a vote for EWU, San Diego, SFA, Jacksonville, Missouri St, SDSU or Nova? If I took a few more minutes I could probably name a few others, do these people just pick teams out of a hat or what?

[UNI Pike]

Looks like Eastern Washington has a fair chance of being 0-5 & still getting votes.

[GeauxLions94]

TSN FCS Top 25 - Week 4 (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/misc/TSN-DIV-1AA-POLL.htm)

Others receiving votes: Tennessee Tech 175, Alabama State 152, Maine 144, Old Dominin 144, Weber State 140, Stephen F. Austin 87, Holy Cross 87, Elon 83, Jackson State 68, Bethune-Cookman 66, Liberty 60, Yale 55, Eastern Washington 50, UT Martin 49, North Dakota 44, Murray State 37, Youngstown State 33, Central Arkansas 24, Portland State 23, Missouri State 21, Norfolk State 21, South Dakota State 17, Coastal Carolina 15, Cal Poly 11, Eastern Kentucky 11, Monmouth 10, Hampton 8, Texas State 7, Furman 7, UC Dvais 6, Alabama A&M 5, San Diego 5, Stony Brook 5, Dayton 5, Harvard 4, South Alabama 3, Rhode Island 3, Northwestern State 3, Jacksonville 3, Tennessee State 2, Georgetown 1, Texas Southern 1, Northern Arizona 1, Villanova 1.

They're ineligible for Southland Conference title and playoffs (making the transition to FBS and have currently 74 scholarships) ... should also include national rankings IMO

[Professor Chaos]

How can anyone justify a vote for EWU, San Diego, SFA, Jacksonville, Missouri St, SDSU or Nova? If I took a few more minutes I could probably name a few others, do these people just pick teams out of a hat or what?I count 69 teams all together including the ORV teams so pretty much every full scholly FCS school should have some votes with that many teams included. Not justifying the toolsheds who made those votes but if you consider that these teams are technically ranked in the bottom half of the FCS it makes it a little more logical in the big picture of the poll.

[1andDone]

Good to see USA get votes

[darell1976]

Good to see the voters rewarding North Dakota for their stirring victories over Drake and Black Hills State...

A win's a win. Unlike a 0-4 team in front of us.

[JSUBison]

A win's a win. Unlike a 0-4 team in front of us.

I thought cupcakes don't count? Or do you have special rules and standards just for NDSU?

[jacksfan29]

A win's a win. Unlike a 0-4 team in front of us.

Sorry Darrell, you seem like a nice guy but you have two wins. One against non-scholarship Drake and the second against NAIA/D2 Black Hills State. Neither UND or SDSU should be getting any votes, in any poll.

[PantherRob82]

Good to see USA get votes

Why are they and why should they? Because they beat another new program in Lamar?

[Squealofthepig]

I thought cupcakes don't count? Or do you have special rules and standards just for NDSU?

I believe Darrel was referring to 0-4 EWU, not 3-0 NDSU there when he mentioned an 0-4 team ahead of UND.

[Squealofthepig]

Why are they and why should they? Because they beat another new program in Lamar?

To be fair, I can justify a South Alabama vote before a lot of those other ORV teams.

[The Eagle's Cliff]

USA, UMass, and Texas St shouldn't be getting votes from anyone. Their transitional status allows them more than the 63 maximum schollies allowed in FCS and are therefore NOT FCS.

[Brad82]

W&M -I disagree with their ranking-too high.

[1andDone]

No not at all. The past two weeks they have played 2 fbs schools, both not world-beaters, but they were in the game both times. Even coming behind from a 33 point deficit against Kent State to only be 23 yards and a two-point conversion from tying it. What FCS school can come back from 33 down against any FBS school?

[GeauxLions94]

USA, UMass, and Texas St shouldn't be getting votes from anyone. Their transitional status allows them more than the 63 maximum schollies allowed in FCS and are therefore NOT FCS.

I know Texas State is at 74 schollies in 2011, does not count as a Southland Conference game and is not eligible for SLC title and/or playoffs ... don't know about UMASS and South Alabama. If they're over the 63 limit, then they should not receive votes either.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

I know Texas State is at 74 schollies in 2011, does not count as a Southland Conference game and is not eligible for SLC title and/or playoffs ... don't know about UMASS and South Alabama. If they're over the 63 limit, then they should not receive votes either.

Well, the thing is that UMass is also not allowed the CAA prize or the post season and I think I saw a UMass dude say they were over but even if not the CAA & the NCAA must see some advantage that they don't allow them in.

South Alabama I really don't know about but I'd have to assume the same rules apply there.

AGS got some push back for not including these teams in our list because polls like TSN were doing so but I'm also not convinced that is correct to have them on there if they have an advantage.

[HailSzczur]

Who cast the one vote for Villanova I wonder?

[bojeta]

At the very least, any team that announces they are moving to FBS, theoretically has a recruiting advantage and therefore should not be eligible for conference titles or post-season play. What I never understood was DII teams moving up and not being eligible. What's the basis for that rule?

[danefan]

At the very least, any team that announces they are moving to FBS, theoretically has a recruiting advantage and therefore should not be eligible for conference titles or post-season play. What I never understood was DII teams moving up and not being eligible. What's the basis for that rule?

The lower academic standards in DII perhaps? You could have players on transitional teams that would not have qualified for DI competition.

[RabidRabbit]

Transitionals from D-II to FCS are eligible for this poll, and most polls as they count as a D-I win/loss after that horrible 1st year of transition. Further, the FCS transitionals are not going to exceed the 63 schollie maximums. Therefore, they count. Likewise, just because a school announces their intentions to move to FBS, if their actual schollies for the year are < 63, then they should still be eligible.

IIRC, USA, UMass, Tx St, are beyond 63 schollies offered this season, therefore, not eligible. UTSA, like Lamar, Ga St, ODU is a start-up, and not playing a sufficient # of D-I programs in this season.