Last Place Yankees

[bluehenbillk]

sole possession of last place for a team with a payroll higher than most 3rd world countries GNP. The Big Unit fizzles out last night - what a great day to be alive!!

[AppGuy04]

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9241

been done, but thanks for the update:hurray:

[Gil Dobie]

Twins defeated the Yankees Saturday night, best game of the year so far. Justin Morneau 2 run single off Rivera with 2 outs in the bottom of the nineth. :)

[bandl]

Yankees still suck balls!!! Woohoo!!!:D

[Reed Rothchild]

Don't look now, the Yanks are tied for 1st!

[Pard4Life]

Don't look now, the Yanks are tied for 1st!

Once they begin playing Boston Anahiem Oakland Cleveland Minnesota Detroit.. they won't be in first.

[AppGuy04]

Once they begin playing Boston Anahiem Oakland Cleveland Minnesota Detroit.. they won't be in first.

ok, you can take Minn. off of there, cause they suck this year, they will win one game against the Yanks, and thats only the Santana game. That is a tough stretch for anyone, especially with the Yanks rotation

[TheValleyRaider]

Once they begin playing Boston Anahiem Oakland Cleveland Minnesota Detroit.. they won't be in first.

You mean like how we opened the season in Anahiem and Oakland, played Boston last week, and Minnesota the week before?

Yeah, not only do they pay too much, but they even avoid the tough teams :cool:

[AppGuy04]

Please people, stop mentioning Minnesota, they are like mentioning Tampa Bay at this point

[FargoBison]

Please people, stop mentioning Minnesota, they are like mentioning Tampa Bay at this point

The Twins are starting to come around and I would look for them to have a very good May. The Twins faced a brutal schedule in April and their pitching was beyond horrible but now Johan is back and the other starters are getting back on track as well.

[HiHiYikas]

Once they begin playing Boston Anahiem Oakland Cleveland Minnesota Detroit.. they won't be in first.
Well, the Yankees are playing Boston again, and they're also back in first place..for now.

Is it a coincidence that the AL's 3 winningnest teams are 19-4 against Kansas City?

Or perhaps that 45% of Boston's wins have come against Baltimore and Tampa Bay (the only 2 sub .500 teams in the AL East)? On the other hand, the over-.500 teams in the AL East account for 50% of Boston's losses.

Meanwhile, in NL East news, Washington has the best record in that division since May 6 (16-11), Atlanta is 16-12 in that span, The Phillies 14-13, the Mets 13-13, and the Marlins 12-15. Way to be, Nats.

[CCUCheer]

Skrew the Skanky Yankees.. lol I hate them. GO RED SOX!!!! :-) No one mention the defeat last night PLEASSEEEE hehehe. xoxo
<3 Katie =)

[saint0917]

Yankees still suck balls!!! Woohoo!!!:D

:bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

[colgate13]

Skrew the Skanky Yankees.. lol I hate them. GO RED SOX!!!! :-) No one mention the defeat last night PLEASSEEEE hehehe. xoxo
<3 Katie =)

OK, I won't mention it.

How about I mention the 13-5 rout on Monday though? :D

[CCUCheer]

OK, I won't mention it.

How about I mention the 13-5 rout on Monday though? :D


You Brat!!! :mad: hahaha eesh:rolleyes:

[TheValleyRaider]

I figured this was the most appropriate place to announce it :D

With Minnesota's defeat of Boston, the New York Yankees clinched the American League Eastern Division title for the 9th consecutive season!
:hurray::bow::hurray::bow::hurray::bow::hurray: :bow::hurray:

The Wild Card awaits a trip to the Bronx come October

Let's Go Yankees! :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :hurray:

[putter]

I figured this was the most appropriate place to announce it :D

With Minnesota's defeat of Boston, the New York Yankees clinched the American League Eastern Division title for the 9th consecutive season!
:hurray::bow::hurray::bow::hurray::bow::hurray: :bow::hurray:

The Wild Card awaits a trip to the Bronx come October

Let's Go Yankees! :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :hurray:


Let's hear it for the Bronx Bombers!!!!! Getting Matsui and Sheffield back in time for the long playoff run....:thumbsup:

[UNHWildCats]

I figured this was the most appropriate place to announce it :D

With Minnesota's defeat of Boston, the New York Yankees clinched the American League Eastern Division title for the 9th consecutive season!
:hurray::bow::hurray::bow::hurray::bow::hurray: :bow::hurray:

The Wild Card awaits a trip to the Bronx come October

Let's Go Yankees! :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :hurray:

You aint been guaranteed the best record yet.

[bluehenbillk]

Year 2000.....Year 2000.....Year 2000.....

The Yankees still have A-Rod, so I'm not anticipating a parade.

[saint0917]

Yankees still suck. As long as A-Rod is on the team the Yankees will not win a World Series. He couldn't do it in Seattle or Texas. He makes $20 Million year to hit .284, money well spent Steinbrenner.xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx GO OAKLAND!!!! http://baseball_gal.tripod.com/banners/Oakland_Logo_Sm.GIF

[TheValleyRaider]

Does no one else appreciate the irony of an A's fan calling someone else a choker? :D

[saint0917]

Does no one else appreciate the irony of an A's fan calling someone else a choker? :D

When did Oakland choke :confused: :confused:

[bandl]

The Yanks still suck big balls!!! Bunch of hosers.

[LacesOut]

The Yankmees know how to celebrate though! Jason Juiceambi with some JD!!

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[CollegeSportsInfo]

You aint been guaranteed the best record yet.

Doesn't matter. First round won't be Detroit vs Minnesota and one of them will be the Wild card. The Wild Card winner will play the Yankees if their 4 game lead over Oakland holds up over the last 9 games of the year.

[dbackjon]

Big deal. yanks haven't won crap since my Dbacks showed them the real Mystique and Aura lived in Phoenix!!!

[JoltinJoe]

Big deal. yanks haven't won crap since my Dbacks showed them the real Mystique and Aura lived in Phoenix!!!

Cheapest WS win ever. You guys couldn't take a single game against a three-time defending champion in its home ballpark. In boxing, they always say to really beat a long-time champ, you have to knock him out. The Dbacks were lucky to win a split decision.

We'd be happy for a rematch, except you guys never make the playoffs.

[GannonFan]

Cheapest WS win ever. You guys couldn't take a single game against a three-time defending champion in its home ballpark. In boxing, they always say to really beat a long-time champ, you have to knock him out. The Dbacks were lucky to win a split decision.

We'd be happy for a rematch, except you guys never make the playoffs.

Well, truth be told, it's not like the Yankees have been making a lot of World Series since then either - heck, the Yanks only have one more pennant than the Diamondbacks do over that same time period. Hardly something to crow about - the Yanks haven't been standing in the World Series much just waiting for Arizona to return (I'm not an Arizona fan, mind you).

As for lucky, come on, the Yanks were lucky to even have the series go back to Arizona that year - the Yanks were only saved by having that relief pitcher, Byung-Hyun Kim, blow two saves in Games 4 and 5. The Yanks were dominated that series - Arizona had a .264 BA and a 1.94 ERA as a team - the Yanks had a .183 BA and a 4.41 ERA as a team through the series. The Diamondbacks led in the 9th inning in 5 of the 7 games, and one they didn't lead in the 9th they managed to get to Rivera, giving him a shocking Game 7 blown save first and then a loss. This was the first instance of the Yankees doing it the wrong way after doing it correctly in the prior years - they relied on big price big hitters rather than good starting pitching - the pitching of Schilling/Johnson/Anderson/Batista was much better than the pitching of Mussina/Pettite/Clemens/Hernandez was that year and the Yanks haven't improved the starting rotation since then.

That will be the big question this year - they have Wang, but Mussina and especially Johnson aren't sure things in the Yankees rotation (and then whoever they put out as a 4th starter) - they have the lineup, but they haven't won a ring since they started to focus on offense at the expense of pitching. I'm not sure they win one this year either.

[dbackjon]

Cheapest WS win ever. You guys couldn't take a single game against a three-time defending champion in its home ballpark. In boxing, they always say to really beat a long-time champ, you have to knock him out. The Dbacks were lucky to win a split decision.

We'd be happy for a rematch, except you guys never make the playoffs.

Cheapest win ever?

Cheap win ever???


Statements like that are why the rest of baseball HATES Yankees fans. Delusional, full of themselves, never give credit to anyone that beats you fair and square.

We out scored the Spankees 37 to 15 in the 2001 World Series - THAT IS AN ASS WHOOPING. Beat you in games 9-1, 4-0, 15-2, and 3-2. You guys lucked out with three one-run wins. We took the three-time Defending Champs to the woodshed. If the Yankees were such TRUE champions, then how do they get whooped 15-2 after taking a 3-2 series lead? Should a true champion FINISH off the opponent on the ropes? The Dbacks were the true champions - we showed heart and determination, and soundly spanked your asses. And then, knocked the "invicible" tag off of Rivera, who hasn't been the same since.


Bitter Yankee fans - the scourge of sports.

[GannonFan]

The Yankees haven't been to the World Series since, which would be the only way we could play again in the playoffs - so bite me on that one. not true, they got there once, in 2003, and lost to the Marlins 4-2, dropping the last 3 in a row, including the last one at Yankee Stadium.





Bitter Yankee fans - the scourge of sports.

Can't argue with that one! :)

[dbackjon]

not true, they got there once, in 2003, and lost to the Marlins 4-2, dropping the last 3 in a row, including the last one at Yankee Stadium.

You're right - I missed that one. I guess the Yanks don't like playing recent expansion teams xlolx

[bandl]

Statements like that are why the rest of baseball HATES Yankees fans. Delusional, full of themselves, never give credit to anyone that beats you fair and square.

Ain't that the truth!!! :hurray: :hurray: Preach on brother dbj...preach on :bow:

[JoltinJoe]

Cheapest win ever?

Cheap win ever???


Statements like that are why the rest of baseball HATES Yankees fans. Delusional, full of themselves, never give credit to anyone that beats you fair and square.

We out scored the Spankees 37 to 15 in the 2001 World Series - THAT IS AN ASS WHOOPING. Beat you in games 9-1, 4-0, 15-2, and 3-2. You guys lucked out with three one-run wins. We took the three-time Defending Champs to the woodshed. If the Yankees were such TRUE champions, then how do they get whooped 15-2 after taking a 3-2 series lead? Should a true champion FINISH off the opponent on the ropes? The Dbacks were the true champions - we showed heart and determination, and soundly spanked your asses. And then, knocked the "invicible" tag off of Rivera, who hasn't been the same since.


Bitter Yankee fans - the scourge of sports.

xlolx

Talk about delusional.

Ass whooping? You guys couldn't win one game in Yankee Stadium. Game 7 you won with three broken bat hits. Rivera? He's been just fine. Still the best five years later.

Ah, you don't like Yankee fans. :bawling:

Your tirade would really bother me if it wasn't so obviously motivated by jealousy.

I hope you and your Dbacks enjoy yet another October at the golf range. Maybe you guys could stage a Ryder Cup type competition with the Red Sox.

xlolx

[AZGrizFan]

xlolx

Talk about delusional.

Ass whooping? You guys couldn't win one game in Yankee Stadium. Game 7 you won with three broken bat hits. Rivera? He's been just fine. Still the best five years later.

Ah, you don't like Yankee fans. :bawling:

Your tirade would really bother me if it wasn't so obviously motivated by jealousy.

I hope you and your Dbacks enjoy yet another October at the golf range. Maybe you guys could stage a Ryder Cup type competition with the Red Sox.

xlolx

So now we've got to get "pretty" wins?

Still says Diamonbacks on the 2001 World Series trophy, Joe. And how many have the revered Yankees piled up since 2001? :p :p :p :p :p That's right.....exactly the same number as the Diamondbacks.

ZERO

[JoltinJoe]

So now we've got to get "pretty" wins?

Still says Diamonbacks on the 2001 World Series trophy, Joe. And how many have the revered Yankees piled up since 2001? :p :p :p :p :p That's right.....exactly the same number as the Diamondbacks.

ZERO


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[JoltinJoe]

That will be the big question this year - they have Wang, but Mussina and especially Johnson aren't sure things in the Yankees rotation (and then whoever they put out as a 4th starter) - they have the lineup, but they haven't won a ring since they started to focus on offense at the expense of pitching. I'm not sure they win one this year either.

Who among the playoff teams has anything better than Wang-Mussina-Johnson right now? Pedro Martinez is looking pretty iffy for the Mets, and Nelson Liriano was shut down in Minnesota.

[dbackjon]

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Give us a hundred years - quite a head start y'all have.


World Series wins this Century:

Arizona 1
New York 0 (Note - 2000 is Not this century, technically :))

[GannonFan]

Game 7 you won with three broken bat hits.


Isn't that just revising history a bit there? The hit the D-backs got that tied the game and gave Rivera the blown save was a good hit down the right field line. Sure Gonzo's hit to win it was a cheap little blooper, but that's what happens after you blow the lead and then put men on base and have to pull the infield in. Nothing cheap about that win though, they got to Mariano in the 9th and this one time (well, the games against the Sox in 2004 didn't go well for him either) he didn't come through for the Yanks and it cost them the rings.

[CollegeSportsInfo]

Cheapest win ever?

Cheap win ever???


Statements like that are why the rest of baseball HATES Yankees fans. Delusional, full of themselves, never give credit to anyone that beats you fair and square.

We out scored the Spankees 37 to 15 in the 2001 World Series - THAT IS AN ASS WHOOPING. Beat you in games 9-1, 4-0, 15-2, and 3-2. You guys lucked out with three one-run wins. We took the three-time Defending Champs to the woodshed. If the Yankees were such TRUE champions, then how do they get whooped 15-2 after taking a 3-2 series lead? Should a true champion FINISH off the opponent on the ropes? The Dbacks were the true champions - we showed heart and determination, and soundly spanked your asses. And then, knocked the "invicible" tag off of Rivera, who hasn't been the same since.


Bitter Yankee fans - the scourge of sports.


This is quite a funny post. It took a fluke error AND a bloop hit in the bottom of the 9th in Game 7 for the series to be won. Congrats. As a fan, you should be happy that your team won a world series. But when it takes such circumstances...9th inning comeback in game 7...a series is hardly an "ass-whooping" as you put it.

People love to hate the Yankees, and that's fine. But let's keep some semblence of reality here and agree to give credit where credit is due.

[GannonFan]

Who among the playoff teams has anything better than Wang-Mussina-Johnson right now? Pedro Martinez is looking pretty iffy for the Mets, and Nelson Liriano was shut down in Minnesota.

Oh, I agree with the Mets, now after 2 starts Pedro does not look impressive. And then you consider that he's had some iffy October starts in the past, and if he gets to the WS and if the Yanks get there I wouldn't count on him at all to come through against the Yankees (the unis are in his head) he's not a reliable pitcher at all right now - kinda like Randy Johnson. The Mets could be in trouble because even Glavine doesn't look great so after those two they have Il Duque and Traschel - just like the Yanks, they're going to need to hit a lot to win in the postseason.

As for other staffs, I wouldn't count out the Twins yet, even without Liriano. The Tigers and A's are young but you gotta be careful there too - and just because the A's of a few years ago were playoff pushovers doesn't mean they will be again. I'm not sure of anyone's bullpens so who know's how that breaks out. In the NL, watch out for San Diego or LA (if they both make it) - their starting pitching is pretty decent. Heck, you can throw the Phillies in there too since Myers and Hamels have looked lights out recently. Pitching on other teams isn't as bad as you think it is, just not the names people are used to.

[dbackjon]

This is quite a funny post. It took a fluke error AND a bloop hit in the bottom of the 9th in Game 7 for the series to be won. Congrats. As a fan, you should be happy that your team won a world series. But when it takes such circumstances...9th inning comeback in game 7...a series is hardly an "ass-whooping" as you put it.

People love to hate the Yankees, and that's fine. But let's keep some semblence of reality here and agree to give credit where credit is due.


Please - we whooped the Yankees soundly in three games, the Yanks eeked out two-out in the ninth wins at home to keep from geting swept.

15-2, 9-0, 4-0 - those are ass-whoopings.

I'd have no problem giving the Yanks credit, if their fans would ever give anyone else credit when they win.

[JoltinJoe]

Nothing cheap about that win though, they got to Mariano in the 9th and this one time (well, the games against the Sox in 2004 didn't go well for him either) he didn't come through for the Yanks and it cost them the rings.


Another big myth repeated over and over by Yankee haters. Rivera gave up one run in 7 innings in five appearances against Sox in 2004, pitching to an ERA of 1.29.

[MarkCCU]

Yankee's suck. that's all there is to it. They are the team everyone loves to hate

[JoltinJoe]

Yankee's suck. that's all there is to it. They are the team everyone loves to hate

Yup, everyone hates the best, so go ahead and hate the Yankees. I hope you hate them even more this October.

[CollegeSportsInfo]

Please - we whooped the Yankees soundly in three games, the Yanks eeked out two-out in the ninth wins at home to keep from geting swept.

15-2, 9-0, 4-0 - those are ass-whoopings.

I'd have no problem giving the Yanks credit, if their fans would ever give anyone else credit when they win.


I try not to make generalized assumptions, but I will say this: sadly, you come across as the type of person who would try using this "point" had the Yankees won that Game 7. The Diamondbacks did. Congrats to their team. But it's called the "World Series" and it doesn't matter what happens during the games, it's who wins. You would have a hard time finding a Yankees fan who would dare make a comment like "The Yankees outscored the so-and-sos" in a given series if it were a series that went to 7 games. Why? Because you can't get a closer series than one that goes 7 games. Had the Diamondbacks won the series 4-0, winning each game by only 1 run, would you run around saying "the Diamondbacks whooped the Yankees ass"? Probably based on your response.

[CollegeSportsInfo]

Please - we whooped the Yankees soundly in three games, the Yanks eeked out two-out in the ninth wins at home to keep from geting swept.

15-2, 9-0, 4-0 - those are ass-whoopings.

I'd have no problem giving the Yanks credit, if their fans would ever give anyone else credit when they win.


Also, on a side note...what is your affiliation with the Diamondbacks? Front office? Radio or TV team. Because I keep seeing you post using the word "we" and I'm guessing you are not a player on their team.

[AZGrizFan]

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Ancient history, my friend, ancient history. :D ;)

[AZGrizFan]

This is quite a funny post. It took a fluke error AND a bloop hit in the bottom of the 9th in Game 7 for the series to be won. Congrats. As a fan, you should be happy that your team won a world series. But when it takes such circumstances...9th inning comeback in game 7...a series is hardly an "ass-whooping" as you put it.

People love to hate the Yankees, and that's fine. But let's keep some semblence of reality here and agree to give credit where credit is due.

THIS is quite a funny post. Aren't all errors "fluke"? Or are some planned. And I didn't realize it mattered how HARD a ball was hit. Whatever it takes for you know-it-all Yankee fans to sleep at night.

Credit goes to Bob Brenly, Luis Gonzalez, Tony Womack, Jay Bell.

And, what the hell: BK Kim. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: For making it exciting....otherwise it'd have been a 4-1 ASSWHOOPING! :bow: :bow: :bow: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[JoltinJoe]

Ancient history, my friend, ancient history. :D ;)

Ancient history? xlolx

Ok, let's talk about current history. How is Bob Melvin's short game?

[AZGrizFan]

Ancient history? xlolx

Ok, let's talk about current history. How is Bob Melvin's short game?

He'll start workin' on it in about a week. Torre's got about 10 more days after that to wait.... :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :eyebrow: :eyebrow: :eyebrow:

[CollegeSportsInfo]

Ancient history? xlolx

Ok, let's talk about current history. How is Bob Melvin's short game?

Exactly. The last PLAYOFF GAME Arizona even won was that Game 7 back in 2001.

If there were a team out there that had been dominating this decade in a manner similar to the Yankees from 96 to 2000 ( - 97), or even like the Braves over an even longer period of time, I'd be the first to tip my cap. Success is something I appreciate. But since 2001, we've had 5 straight "1-and-done" teams with Arizona, Angels, Florida, Boston, and the White Sox.

Even worse, is that only the Angels have found some semblance of post-season success since winning a world series.

Arizona: 0 playoff wins (swept in '03...never made it back)
Boston: 0 wins (swept in '05, missing playoffs in '06)
Florida: 0 wins (no appearances)
LA Angels: 4 wins (swept in '04, ALCS in '05)
White Sox: lookin' like they will miss the playoffs after winning in 2005

[JoltinJoe]

He'll start workin' on it in about a week. Torre's got about 10 more days after that to wait.... :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :eyebrow: :eyebrow: :eyebrow:

If you say so, Nostradamus.

But I wouldn't go betting the cactus on that. :nod:

[AZGrizFan]

If you say so, Nostradamus.

But I wouldn't go betting the cactus on that. :nod:

Yep. When the Twins light up Johnson and Mussina, Torre'll be crying in his flat champagne. :thumbsup: :p

[Tod]

Also, on a side note...what is your affiliation with the Diamondbacks? Front office? Radio or TV team. Because I keep seeing you post using the word "we" and I'm guessing you are not a player on their team.

Not a fan of a sports team, I take it?

[GannonFan]

Another big myth repeated over and over by Yankee haters. Rivera gave up one run in 7 innings in five appearances against Sox in 2004, pitching to an ERA of 1.29.

It's no myth. Rivera blew the save in Game 4 that would've been the 4 games to none clincher and would've seen the Yanks into the World Series. He pitched in the next game and while it wasn't his save that was blown (the runners on base that scored weren't his) he didn't close out the Sox and the runs got in. You can't be an objective fan and not say that Rivera not getting the job done in Game 4 and then not being anything special in Game 5 (again, not his fault but he didn't do anything "other-wordly" to perpetuate his superman status) was a major factor in the Yanks blowing a 3 games to none lead, leading in the last half inning of the 4th game.

[JoltinJoe]

It's no myth. Rivera blew the save in Game 4 that would've been the 4 games to none clincher and would've seen the Yanks into the World Series. He pitched in the next game and while it wasn't his save that was blown (the runners on base that scored weren't his) he didn't close out the Sox and the runs got in. You can't be an objective fan and not say that Rivera not getting the job done in Game 4 and then not being anything special in Game 5 (again, not his fault but he didn't do anything "other-wordly" to perpetuate his superman status) was a major factor in the Yanks blowing a 3 games to none lead, leading in the last half inning of the 4th game.

You are just flat out wrong. Rivera gave up one earned run in the entire series. Further, in Game 5, Rivera came into a bases loaded, no out situation, with a one run lead. He got out of the inning giving up one run. In that situation, you rarely do better than that.

If Torre had brought Rivera in to start the 8th inning with a two-run lead (like I said at the time he should), Yanks win that series 4 games to 1. Gordon was not pitching well but Torre still let him start the 8th. If he had gone to Mo for the six-out save, the Sox lose that series.

Certainly after Ortiz led off the 8th with a dinger, Torre should have immediately gone to Mo.

[AZGrizFan]

You are just flat out wrong. Rivera gave up one earned run in the entire series. Further, in Game 5, Rivera came into a bases loaded, no out situation, with a one run lead. He got out of the inning giving up one run. In that situation, you rarely do better than that.

If Torre had brought Rivera in to start the 8th inning with a two-run lead (like I said at the time he should), Yanks win that series 4 games to 1. Gordon was not pitching well but Torre still let him start the 8th. If he had gone to Mo for the six-out save, the Sox lose that series.

Certainly after Ortiz led off the 8th with a dinger, Torre should have immediately gone to Mo.

If. If. If only.

Ahhh.....the Monday morning quarterback rears it's ugly head. I suppose you were screaming at the TV on that late November night in 2001 that Torre should have his infield play back, too?

Give it up, man. Year after year, the Yankees spend like drunken sailors, and what's it gotten them? The same number of World Series titles as the Diamondbacks, Angels, White Sox, Red Sox and Marlins in the last 6 years.

One. Now, who does THAT make look stupid?

[JoltinJoe]

If. If. If only.

Ahhh.....the Monday morning quarterback rears it's ugly head. I suppose you were screaming at the TV on that late November night in 2001 that Torre should have his infield play back, too?

Give it up, man. Year after year, the Yankees spend like drunken sailors, and what's it gotten them? The same number of World Series titles as the Diamondbacks, Angels, White Sox, Red Sox and Marlins in the last 6 years.

One. Now, who does THAT make look stupid?

xcoffeex

Nine straight AL East titles, 11 straight playoff appearances, and four WS titles in the stretch. The most dominant team of that period.

Give it up yourself. The Dbacks had one moment, a cheap one at that, and have been pretty sad ever since.

[bluehenbillk]

How bout an all-Philadelphia World Series? Phillies-A's

[dbackjon]

AZGRIZFAN - discussing anything with a Yankee Fan is point in futility. Always - we are the greatest thing ever, we have 26 championships, you only got lucky/cheap to beat us, blah, blah, blah. There is a reason Yankee fans are the scum of the sports world.......

[bluehenbillk]

There is a reason Yankee fans are the scum of the sports world.......

Well Yankees fans and Notre Dame fans...xlolx

[GannonFan]

xcoffeex

Nine straight AL East titles, 11 straight playoff appearances, ...


Ah, the sign of the times - the Yankees having to fall back on their list of division titles and playoff appearances rather than World Series, especially the last six years. When did they stop playing for championships and now "just getting there"?

[JoltinJoe]

There is a reason Yankee fans are the scum of the sports world.......

And that's because you're jealous of fans of a team that wins all the time. The more you say it, the more we love it.

We're not haughty or arrogant. We just have to listen to you guys cry all the time about how bad we are because our team wins. You know what? We don't care what you think and that's what bothers you.

[bandl]

The current Yankees organization is full of a$$holes and arrogant *****s (Jeter aside), which is the real reason people don't care for them. :nod:

Carry on.

[JoltinJoe]

The current Yankees organization is full of a$$holes and arrogant *****s (Jeter aside), which is the real reason people don't care for them. :nod:

Carry on.
xcoffeex

I might feel the same way if I knew them personally, like you apparently do. ;)

[bandl]

xcoffeex

I might feel the same way if I knew them personally, like you apparently do. ;)

I do. Current and retired player.

[CollegeSportsInfo]

Ah, the sign of the times - the Yankees having to fall back on their list of division titles and playoff appearances rather than World Series, especially the last six years. When did they stop playing for championships and now "just getting there"?

That's just ignorance and bitterness, plain and simple.

If there were a team making the playoffs and winning multiple world series, then of course THAT accomplishment would be viewed as BETTER than teams winning divisions such as 9 in a row. But that team does not exist. The Yankees have won 9 AL East divisions in a row, 11 of the last 12. They have gone to 6 World Series during that span and won 4 of them. Yes, they have not won since 2000, but they have still won 3 of the last 10 World Series and made it to 5 of the 10.

Again , if there were a team with similar success, you wouldn't hear a peep from Yankees fans. Atlanta is the next closest thing, and we know their track record: 2 world series appearences, winning one and losing one.

When a team is fortunate enough to replicate the success the Yankees have had over the past 10 years, making it to half the world series over that span, winning 4+...then it would be clearly a successful run worthy of merit...and I will be the first person to recognize that success.

[CollegeSportsInfo]

Not a fan of a sports team, I take it?

I'd had season tickets for the Yankees & Jets most of my life. Via XM or DirecTV I listen or watch every Yankees game and watch the Jet's each week. But I am not a player on those teams. They are "the Yankees" and I am a fan. The only "WE" which should ever be applicable to a team should be if you are officially affiliated with that team as a player, coach or executive.

I'll loosin' up my opinions when it comes to collegiate fans. If you are a student at a school, you are affiliated in an official manner with that school.

[CollegeSportsInfo]

AZGRIZFAN - discussing anything with a Yankee Fan is point in futility. Always - we are the greatest thing ever, we have 26 championships, you only got lucky/cheap to beat us, blah, blah, blah. There is a reason Yankee fans are the scum of the sports world.......The futility seems to go both ways then.

When a team is losing Game 7 of the World Series and it is the bottom of the ninth and that team does amazing things to come back and win that game, winning the title...but a fan has the audacity to say that the series was an "ass-whooping"? That is the biggest joke in this thread.

An "ass-whooping" would be the 2003 World Series in which the Marlins beat the Yankees in 6 games. An ass-whoopin would be the 2000 WS in which the Yankees won in 5 games, or the 1998 or 1999 series which were 4 game sweeps.

[dbackjon]

I'd had season tickets for the Yankees & Jets most of my life. Via XM or DirecTV I listen or watch every Yankees game and watch the Jet's each week. But I am not a player on those teams. They are "the Yankees" and I am a fan. The only "WE" which should ever be applicable to a team should be if you are officially affiliated with that team as a player, coach or executive.

I'll loosin' up my opinions when it comes to collegiate fans. If you are a student at a school, you are affiliated in an official manner with that school.

You must listen to the drivel that Cowherd spews.

I am perfectly comfortable saying WE with the Dbacks. I helped pay for the stadium. I have followed the team since the franchise was announced. Good friends with some of the original ownership group. I have given them plenty of my hard-earned money. Yes, I have an attachment to the Dbacks. So sue me.....:rolleyes:

[JoltinJoe]

Atlanta is the next closest thing, and we know their track record: 2 world series appearences, winning one and losing one.



Just a quick correction: three WS appearances, winning one (1995) and losing two (1996, 1999).

But 14 straight NL East titles is darn impressive.

[GannonFan]

Just a quick correction: three WS appearances, winning one (1995) and losing two (1996, 1999).

But 14 straight NL East titles is darn impressive.

Minor correction - if the Braves had won 14 NL East titles that would be nothing short of amazing, especially considering that they've only been in the NL East for the past 11 seasons.

[GannonFan]

That's just ignorance and bitterness, plain and simple.


On the contrary, it's exactly what Yankee fans typically do to detract other team's accomplishments. How many times do you hear the 26 titles brought up? Pretty much everytime that another team claims some level of success. Nevermind that a good 20 of those titles were won before a good majority of the fans were born (and 4 were in this era of runaway salaries), it's brought up constantly, especially if another team has a streak like the Braves. Just listen to WFAN - it's all about the championships, and they've ripped the Braves' streak of division titles as a nice little accomplishment, but hollow in that WS titles haven't been more numerous. Face it, the Yankees used to talk about World Series rings, now they talk about winning the AL East (which is pretty much tantamount to saying they've beaten the Red Sox since the O's and Rays are non-competitive and the Jays aren't a factor in any post season discussion and haven't been since Joe Carter's HR) - that's a step down.

[JoltinJoe]

Minor correction - if the Braves had won 14 NL East titles that would be nothing short of amazing, especially considering that they've only been in the NL East for the past 11 seasons.

Yes, you're right. I should have said 14 straight divisional titles. Either way, a great accomplishment.

[GannonFan]

Yes, you're right. I should have said 14 straight divisional titles. Either way, a great accomplishment.

I agree - that NL East thing is just a pet peeve of mine - no one even seems to remember 2-division play and it wasn't that long ago.

[JoltinJoe]

I agree - that NL East thing is just a pet peeve of mine - no one even seems to remember 2-division play and it wasn't that long ago.

No need to say that's a pet peeve. My comment was literally wrong and needed to be corrected.

[dbackjon]

I agree - that NL East thing is just a pet peeve of mine - no one even seems to remember 2-division play and it wasn't that long ago.

The 14 straight is a pet peeve of mine. The streak was really 11. Montreal was running away with the division in 1994. I know no champ was crowned that year, but 11 is the truthful number. Still impressive.

[CollegeSportsInfo]

On the contrary, it's exactly what Yankee fans typically do to detract other team's accomplishments. How many times do you hear the 26 titles brought up? Pretty much everytime that another team claims some level of success. Nevermind that a good 20 of those titles were won before a good majority of the fans were born (and 4 were in this era of runaway salaries), it's brought up constantly, especially if another team has a streak like the Braves. Just listen to WFAN - it's all about the championships, and they've ripped the Braves' streak of division titles as a nice little accomplishment, but hollow in that WS titles haven't been more numerous. Face it, the Yankees used to talk about World Series rings, now they talk about winning the AL East (which is pretty much tantamount to saying they've beaten the Red Sox since the O's and Rays are non-competitive and the Jays aren't a factor in any post season discussion and haven't been since Joe Carter's HR) - that's a step down.

I think you are confusing Yankees fans with ALL non-Braves fans. The Braves not being able to win the World Series after dominating the regular season the past 10 years was a running gag in all of sports. The Braves and their 1 WS win is often mentioned in categories like Buffalo Bills, Dan Marino, Payton Manning thus far...etc: regular season heros who had limited post season success or championships. Regardless of how it is taken, the Braves dominating their division for so long was extremly impressive. And a fan of the Kansas City Royals might poke fun at the the lack of Braves championships over the past 11 years, but inside they still appreciate the regular season success the team has had. I know I have.

[CollegeSportsInfo]

The 14 straight is a pet peeve of mine. The streak was really 11. Montreal was running away with the division in 1994. I know no champ was crowned that year, but 11 is the truthful number. Still impressive.


Agreed. That was a tough season for Yankees fans hoping to finally get to the playoffs after such a long wait. But for Montreal, it meant the virtual end to their existence. That Montreal team was impressive to watch. Just take a look at their roster from that year: http://www.baseball-almanac.com/teamstats/roster.php?y=1994&t=MON





Oddly, Red Sox fans hated the strike so much because they had Wetteland signed alogn with Sosa, but those contracts were scrapped with the strike.

[dbackjon]

Agreed. That was a tough season for Yankees fans hoping to finally get to the playoffs after such a long wait. But for Montreal, it meant the virtual end to their existence. That Montreal team was impressive to watch. Just take a look at their roster from that year: http://www.baseball-almanac.com/teamstats/roster.php?y=1994&t=MON

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That 94 Expo team was loaded! Most likely, they would have won the WS. That would have kept fan intested enough to allow them to keep the core intact, winning the new NL East in 95. And provided enough momentum to build a new stadium.

[AZGrizFan]

I agree - that NL East thing is just a pet peeve of mine - no one even seems to remember 2-division play and it wasn't that long ago.

Jesus. Was that only 11 years ago? It seems like ages. :o :o :o

[GannonFan]

Jesus. Was that only 11 years ago? It seems like ages. :o :o :o

To a Phillies fan it certainly does - officially speaking, the Phillies were the last non-Braves team before the Mets this year to win the NL East and that was the '93 Phils that almost won the WS (except for damn Fregosi taking Roger Mason out in the 8th inning of Game 6 and putting in Larry Anderson who ended up turning the lineup over so that MitchiePoo had to face the heart of the lineup in the 9th and when we had Curt Schilling as a stone cold mortal lock to win Game 7 - oh, what could've been!)

[AZGrizFan]

To a Phillies fan it certainly does - officially speaking, the Phillies were the last non-Braves team before the Mets this year to win the NL East and that was the '93 Phils that almost won the WS (except for damn Fregosi taking Roger Mason out in the 8th inning of Game 6 and putting in Larry Anderson who ended up turning the lineup over so that MitchiePoo had to face the heart of the lineup in the 9th and when we had Curt Schilling as a stone cold mortal lock to win Game 7 - oh, what could've been!)

.....a tad bitter there, GF? ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

[GannonFan]

.....a tad bitter there, GF? ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

My therapist tells me it helps to talk about it. ;)

[AZGrizFan]

He'll start workin' on it in about a week. Torre's got about 10 more days after that to wait....

If you say so, Nostradamus.

But I wouldn't go betting the cactus on that. :nod:

JJ--I'll see your cactus, and raise you the Grand Canyon.

Think Torre is getting his clubs out of long term storage right about now? How does it feel to have your entire season now hanging on the arm of Jaret Wright? :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Man, Kenny Rogers made them look like the Kansas City Royals last night....and I enjoyed every stinking pitch. :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :hurray:
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Pards Rule]

GO TIGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JoltinJoe]

Man, Kenny Rogers made them look like the Kansas City Royals last night....and I enjoyed every stinking pitch. :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :hurray:
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


Yea, not exactly a feel good story there. The AL's answer to Barry Bonds as the biggest a-hole in the league, who has made a career of spitting the bit in big situations (like the time he walked in the winning run in a decisive Mets-Braves playoff game), comes through with the first big-time effort in his sad and way-too-long career.

At least Rogers declared an amnesty after the game, declaring that all members of the media were safe and could approach him without risk of being assaulted, so that he could talk about the one time in his life when he pitched well in a big situation.

But the series ain't over.

[bandl]

Did I mention that the Yankees suck???

I know...they were the better team. They just weren't playing to their potential. :rolleyes: It's a common theme now for these old folk. xlolx

Bye bye Yankees. :nod:

[UNHWildCats]

Did I mention that the Yankees suck???

I know...they were the better team. They just weren't playing to their potential. :rolleyes: It's a common theme now for these old folk. xlolx

Bye bye Yankees. :nod:


aint it great xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx

[Hansel]

GO TIGERS!

Who is ESPN going to talk about after Boston and NYY is out?

[TheValleyRaider]

GO TIGERS!

Who is ESPN going to talk about after Boston and NYY is out?

A-Rod and where he'll play next season...

[Reed Rothchild]

GO TIGERS!

Who is ESPN going to talk about after Boston and NYY is out?

Firing torre for Lou Pinella.

[ISUMatt]

A-Rod and where he'll play next season...

LA Angels

[Hansel]

Firing torre for Lou Pinella.
that's sounds about right

i hate that that fat uk Kruk

[UNHWildCats]

LA Angels

I agree seems like best option, LA has the money as well s young talent to complete a deal. Though don't count out the Cubs getting into the bidding.

[AZGrizFan]

Yea, not exactly a feel good story there. The AL's answer to Barry Bonds as the biggest a-hole in the league, who has made a career of spitting the bit in big situations (like the time he walked in the winning run in a decisive Mets-Braves playoff game), comes through with the first big-time effort in his sad and way-too-long career.

At least Rogers declared an amnesty after the game, declaring that all members of the media were safe and could approach him without risk of being assaulted, so that he could talk about the one time in his life when he pitched well in a big situation.

But the series ain't over.

It is now.

BWAAAAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

[TheValleyRaider]

that's sounds about right

i hate that that fat uk Kruk

Yeah, but ESPN didn't mind keeping him over Harold Reynolds :bang:

[Pards Rule]

The problem here is I don't think any team wants the $25 million drag with his lack of production when it counts...He wil be asked to take a cut, he will refuse and still be in pinstripes.

[bluehenbillk]

Year 2000.....Year 2000.....Year 2000:hurray: :hurray: :hurray:

[GannonFan]

That will be the big question this year - they have Wang, but Mussina and especially Johnson aren't sure things in the Yankees rotation (and then whoever they put out as a 4th starter) - they have the lineup, but they haven't won a ring since they started to focus on offense at the expense of pitching. I'm not sure they win one this year either.

Man, I couldn't have been more right about the stinkin' Yankees. Although, truth be told, it's been obvious to most since 2000 that the Yankees aren't building a team that can win the WS - make the playoffs every year? Absolutely (heck, with $200+ in salary every year (i.e. just about 3x the league average), you should make the playoffs at least). But unless they address the pitching (both starting as well as the bullpen outside of Rivera, although he won't last forever) then the Year 2000 chant will actually start to catch on. Hey, Lupica used my line on Sunday - $1.2 billion dollars spent and all they have to show for it is one lousy pennant and a bunch of playoff appearances, although some very short appearances at that. What a shame.

[UNHWildCats]

The problem here is I don't think any team wants the $25 million drag with his lack of production when it counts...He wil be asked to take a cut, he will refuse and still be in pinstripes.

He'd be willing to take a cut, but the union wont let him.

In 2003 the deal with Texas and Boston was done, A Rod agreed to rework his contract then the union refused to let him. The rest is history, BEAUTIFUL HISTORY.