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D1B
May 16th, 2005, 08:49 PM
Mrs. D1B's new bicycle:

http://www.bayviewcycle.com/Bikes_Images/Trek2005/5000.jpg

To appreciate the 5000, let's look at what Lance rides...and has ridden since signing with Trek in 1997. For his first two Tour wins (1999 and 2000), Armstrong used a 58cm frame identical to that of the 5000. The next year, Lance piloted what's now the 5900 SL, which uses a slightly lighter weave of carbon fiber (110 grams per square meter instead of 120 grams). The savings in weight was a mighty slim 60 grams. Last year, Lance used the new Madone which, at a weight similar to a 5900 SL, is a whisker more aerodynamic.

A frame that won two Tours and is a few gulps of water heavier than the latest and greatest? Fine by us. Frame aside, Lance wasn't riding a $2,200 rig in the Tour--his bike was decked with top-of-the-line Dura-Ace parts. To bring the price down, the 5000 gets dressed with a mix of Shimano Ultegra and 105, backed by a spread of Trek's house-brand Bontrager components, including wheels. All work without complaint, even if outclassed by the yellow-jersey winning frame.

Hop on the 5000 and enjoy the quiet, no-buzz ride that carbon-fiber frames--and Trek's decade-old OCLV models in particular--are famous for. With the requisite carbon-fiber fork up front, all-day comfort abounds, but there's still stoutness for torquing in town-line sprints. Thankfully, steering leans toward precise and stable rather than quick and twitchy--perfect for those secret, two-handed victory salutes when, alone on some back road, you're playing Armstrong.

Weight: 18.0 lb. (56cm w/o pedals) YAY: Smooth, feathery frame

Nay: Paying more than two grand and settling for a few ho-hum Shimano 105 parts

Frame and Fork: Trek OCLV 120 carbon fiber; fork has alloy steerer tube

Component Highlights: Shimano Ultegra shifters, cranks, rear derailleur, 105 brakes and front derailleur; Bontrager wheels, bar, stem, saddle, seatpost

Grizo406
May 16th, 2005, 09:47 PM
Get rid of those 105 brakes...slap on some Hayes HFX-9 disc's, 8" rotors, if they'll fit, and you'll have a keeper...a Road Bike, but still a keeper. :D

Tod
May 16th, 2005, 10:40 PM
Dude, they ripped you off on spokes. :D

Grizo406
May 16th, 2005, 11:50 PM
I think ya' done good, D1B...get rid of that 105 crap, and you can ride with the Grizo.

Not many get that invitation. :rolleyes: :nod:

bkrownd
May 17th, 2005, 02:52 AM
105 is "crap"? The planet you live on is either made of gold, or cheese - which is it? And the 105 parts are the least important anyway - brakes and front derailleur. Disc brakes are moronic unless you're riding in mud and tons of rain, or doing loooooooong downhills. If I ditch my Sora parts, I'm getting 105. I'm going to be shopping at Jamis dealers when I'm in Denver and Minneapolis in a few weeks - they got some nice models for very nice prices.

89Hen
May 17th, 2005, 08:18 AM
Wow, when did you guys all learn to speak Greek? :o

Hansel
May 17th, 2005, 09:23 AM
total cost was???

Grizo406
May 17th, 2005, 01:31 PM
105 is "crap"? The planet you live on is either made of gold, or cheese - which is it? And the 105 parts are the least important anyway - brakes and front derailleur. Disc brakes are moronic unless you're riding in mud and tons of rain, or doing loooooooong downhills. If I ditch my Sora parts, I'm getting 105. I'm going to be shopping at Jamis dealers when I'm in Denver and Minneapolis in a few weeks - they got some nice models for very nice prices.

The planet I live on is made of neither gold nor cheese, but a series of respectable, and challenging loooooooong downhill runs that are sometimes very muddy, sometimes filled with snow, fallen timber, and rocks the size of a VW...which should explain my preference for the Hayes Magnesium full hydraulic disc's.

As far as dérailleurs, I prefer the Shimano M-570LX on the front, Shimano M-750XT, short cage, standard spring on the rear for my type of riding, not sure how they'd do in gold or cheese though.

What I think moronic is someone subjecting 105 parts to the above conditions, thinking they can be competetive...but that's just me.

Good luck with your parts search. ;)

buckp
May 17th, 2005, 01:53 PM
Nice rigs, guys.......brings back some good memories of an old friend that was big into Cannondales. Thanks.....

FightinBluHen51
May 17th, 2005, 02:09 PM
Eh, it's still a peddal pusher :D. Actually, if I wasn't saving for a go fast car, I'd be spending some coin on a go fast peddal pusher (as I got a great place to ride and need to drop some weight too, :P but I guess walking and trying to get back to the gym will do for now). Nice btw. Hate to think how much because carbon fiber is $$$$$

bkrownd
May 17th, 2005, 04:08 PM
The planet I live on is made of neither gold nor cheese, but a series of respectable, and challenging loooooooong downhill runs that are sometimes very muddy, sometimes filled with snow, fallen timber, and rocks the size of a VW...

Dood, that is not what this bike, or 105, is made for.

Marcus Garvey
May 17th, 2005, 05:35 PM
It's too dangerous around Tucson for road biking, IMO. I prefer to moutain bike. If I hit something, it's pretty much my fault. For instance, I know for a fact that the boulder in the half-pipe DID NOT swerve to hit me! It still hurt like hell though!
:D

bisonguy
May 17th, 2005, 05:53 PM
Nice ride. :nod: :bow:

D1B- make sure your new bike has Campy on it instead of Shimano ;) . That way you can drop five cogs in one shift and leave her in the dust. :D

blukeys
May 17th, 2005, 08:08 PM
DIB you got a fair price for a complete carbon fiber bike of the Trek line. I am a Cannondale fan myself but trek is a great line. I like the color scheme. Nothing wrong with the 105 parts you have mentioned. I'm sure you are aware that Performance Bike and Bike Nashbar (located in Youngstown Ohio) run seasonal specials on end of season stuff and you can pick up an upgrade to Ultegra or Dura Ace in September or October at a great price.

You will be well served by this bike if you do RAGBRAI this year. I hope I can do it one of these years. Keep your eyes on the road and both hands on the bars. I didn't do this last September and it cost me a month of work and I now have a titanium plate and 6 screws in my left arm. Good Luck

Grizo406
May 17th, 2005, 08:38 PM
Dood, that is not what this bike, or 105, is made for.

But it's what this one is made for, "dood", and that's all I care about.
http://www.specialized.com/OA_MEDIA/2005/bikes/05Demo9Pro_d.jpg

bisonguy
May 17th, 2005, 10:36 PM
But it's what this one is made for, "dood", and that's all I care about.
http://www.specialized.com/OA_MEDIA/2005/bikes/05Demo9Pro_d.jpg

It's not a mountain bike unless you can go up the hills, as well. ;)

That thing is an overgrown spring with two wheels attached to it (not that I wouldn't turn you down if you offered to let me take it for a test spin :D ).

I'm assuming you've seen this site- Nine honking inches of travel (http://www.nine-honking-inches-of-travel.com/). :eek:

Grizo406
May 17th, 2005, 11:03 PM
It's not a mountain bike unless you can go up the hills, as well. ;)

That thing is an overgrown spring with two wheels attached to it (not that I wouldn't turn you down if you offered to let me take it for a test spin :D ).

I'm assuming you've seen this site- Nine honking inches of travel (http://www.nine-honking-inches-of-travel.com/). :eek:

This bike goes up hill fairly well, but what it lacks in uphill capabilities, it more than makes up for it on the downhill side.

True, it is an overgrown spring with two wheels, but what do ya' want for over 5 large?

As far as letting you take it for a spin...you can look at it, and touch it, but you ain't gonna' ride it. ;) :D

bkrownd
May 17th, 2005, 11:46 PM
The only suspension I need is the pneumatic tire. Old Skool, baybee!

polsongrizz
May 17th, 2005, 11:54 PM
This bike goes up hill fairly well, but what it lacks in uphill capabilities, it more than makes up for it on the downhill side.

True, it is an overgrown spring with two wheels, but what do ya' want for over 5 large?

As far as letting you take it for a spin...you can look at it, and touch it, but you ain't gonna' ride it. ;) :D
He tells me the same thing... :nod: :nod: :nod: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :D :D ;) ;) ;) ;)

polsongrizz
May 17th, 2005, 11:58 PM
The only suspension I need is the pneumatic tire. Old Skool, baybee!
http://greaserclothing.com/old%20school%20bobber2.jpg
http://imagebikes.com/mediac/400_0/media/Web~Cc7.jpg

Grizo406
May 18th, 2005, 12:58 PM
He tells me the same thing... :nod: :nod: :nod: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :D :D ;) ;) ;) ;)

Ya' gott'a earn the best part, pols...The RIDE!!! :D

polsongrizz
May 18th, 2005, 01:01 PM
Ya' gott'a earn the best part, pols...The RIDE!!! :D
Grizo's mantra...
http://www.amtrakcapitols.com/included/images/promotions/kidsridefree_nav_230x271.gif

Grizo406
May 18th, 2005, 02:02 PM
Grizo's mantra...
http://www.amtrakcapitols.com/included/images/promotions/kidsridefree_nav_230x271.gif

Shame on you!

D1B
May 18th, 2005, 09:07 PM
DIB you got a fair price for a complete carbon fiber bike of the Trek line. I am a Cannondale fan myself but trek is a great line. I like the color scheme. Nothing wrong with the 105 parts you have mentioned. I'm sure you are aware that Performance Bike and Bike Nashbar (located in Youngstown Ohio) run seasonal specials on end of season stuff and you can pick up an upgrade to Ultegra or Dura Ace in September or October at a great price.

You will be well served by this bike if you do RAGBRAI this year. I hope I can do it one of these years. Keep your eyes on the road and both hands on the bars. I didn't do this last September and it cost me a month of work and I now have a titanium plate and 6 screws in my left arm. Good Luck

Thanks blue, I'll check them out.

I wish the bike was mine. Bought this one for the little lady. I too am a Cannondale fan. Purchased a R-600 last year and I like it. When she was test riding the Trek, the store loaned me a Fuji to ride with her, can't remember the model, full carbon frame, and the works. Wonderful bike, but at 4 grand - out of my financial range, for now. :o

blukeys
May 18th, 2005, 09:51 PM
Thanks blue, I'll check them out.

I wish the bike was mine. Bought this one for the little lady. :o

Good move. ALWAYS buy a bike for the lady that is slightlyl better than yours. If you have a better bike and outperform her on the road, she will be immensely PISSED when she finds out your bike is better. By the way they always find out as cyclists at tours always comment on the quality of a bike. So some cycling geek who thinks your wife is cute (guys outnumber girls at these events about 1000 to 1) will tell her how good her bike is compared to yours.

Whenever you get an upgrade for yourself always get one for her. The websites I mentioned earlier are performancebike.com and bikenashbar.com. Be careful on the second website as they also have a volleyball website. There is also a women's cycling clothing website that all the girls I know love. My ladyfriend has different helmets with different colors to coordinate her outfits. I'll get that sight so you can have present ideas.

polsongrizz
May 18th, 2005, 11:52 PM
Shame on you!
Yeah like that will work... :cool: :eek: :rolleyes: :D :p ;)

Grizo406
May 19th, 2005, 12:00 AM
Yeah like that will work... :cool: :eek: :rolleyes: :D :p ;)

You're just cranky because I'm gonna' make you earn "a ride". ;)