Appalachian State at Virginia Tech 2011 Game Thread

[bonarae]

Second of three FBS-FCS game threads for Week 1.

Background
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Virginia Tech leads, 3-0. (last game was way back in 1982, Hokies won it 34-0)

About Virginia Tech
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2010 Record: 11-3
FCS game for 2010: Lost to James Madison 16-15
Bright spots: Pass defense
Weak spots: Lost many (especially on offense) to graduation, rush defense

Discuss. My prediction: Let's see what we have here. Both lost a lot to graduation, but I think VT gets the better half of the game, and wins it by a somewhat close margin.

[elon77]

A repeat of the 1982 game.

[JMU Newbill]

The JMU vs. VT score was 21-16, but that's not really that important I guess as long as you point out that we won.

I think Appy makes this one interesting. Something in 7 point range, win or lose, Virginia Tech will hear it after the game.

[bluehenbillk]

Bad year for Appy to go to Blacksburg. After the JMU embarassment last year, a game they had 4 days to prepare for, the Hokies will be more than ready to play Appy, who after watching the VU playoff game last year, didn't do a lot for me. VaTech is breaking in a new QB but I'll say VT by 17-20.

[asumike83]

I think ASU makes it interesting, but VT pulls away in the 4th Quarter. If ASU plays out of their minds and gets a bounce or two to go their way, they could pull off the upset but I doubt it.

Virginia Tech 31
Appalachian 17

[appfan2008]

VT 42
ASU 21

[hapapp]

Tech 35-10

[Side Judge]

Pray for rain and an early lead, then hold on for dear life. ASU has speed, which should be the great equalizer in a game like this...

[Appaholic]

A repeat of the 1982 game.

Unfortunately agree.....but I' think we'll put points on the board...31-7 or 34-10

[phoenixphanatic21]

VT 31
App 13

[IaaScribe]

Hokies win 31-10.

[StorminASU]

An FCS team sneaks by them again I hope. Our defense did look formidable.

[AshevilleApp2]

Virginia Tech by 21+

[chattownmocs]

Ill go with 59-14 Va Tech. This game has Big Blowout written all over. Probably 28-0 after 1. 45-0 at the half. And then Vatech lets up. This is going to be a beat down of epic proportions.

[Mountaineer]

Ill go with 59-14 Va Tech. This game has Big Blowout written all over. Probably 28-0 after 1. 45-0 at the half. And then Vatech lets up. This is going to be a beat down of epic proportions.

Oh yeah?! Well, I'm going with 63-2, Tech. An even bigger blowout!! So there.

[Smitty]

Ill go with 59-14 Va Tech. This game has Big Blowout written all over. Probably 28-0 after 1. 45-0 at the half. And then Vatech lets up. This is going to be a beat down of epic proportions.

Sorry you must have VATech mixed up with a more competent team like Florida or Alabama...

It isn't going to be close but the score may not show that 35-17

[TheRevSFA]

Oh yeah?! Well, I'm going with 63-2, Tech. An even bigger blowout!! So there.

My blowout is bigger than your blowout!

[chattownmocs]

Sorry you must have VATech mixed up with a more competent team like Florida or Alabama...

It isn't going to be close but the score may not show that 35-17

You must have Florida mixed up with someone who could stay on the field with Va tech this year or last. That Florida team who destroyed App State last year was not good. Va Tech would have handled them. James Madison beat them because they were asleep. The were comatose. Not because they were a better football team. Reality will hit the App homers and their minions hard next weekend.

[appfan2008]

Ill go with 59-14 Va Tech. This game has Big Blowout written all over. Probably 28-0 after 1. 45-0 at the half. And then Vatech lets up. This is going to be a beat down of epic proportions.

whatever... and if chattanooga was playing va tech it would be 77-3... so what...

[eagle07]

I think App plays it pretty close for first quarter or 2. However, the score will end up being VT by at least 24. VT always has a pretty good defense, but it always seems like their offense sputters toward the beginning of games.

[813Jag]

Sorry you must have VATech mixed up with a more competent team like Florida or Alabama...

It isn't going to be close but the score may not show that 35-17
I get your point but I can't help but laugh at you calling Florida a competent team xlolx xlolx xlolx

[biggie]

Hoping to be less than a 20 point margin, but I'll be there to enjoy it either way. Even with leaving to drive up there at 5am.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

I have a feeling the Hokies will bring their A game after the way last year started. App State will do well to keep this one within 3 TDs imo.

[813Jag]

Anybody know VaTech's QB situation. Could effect the margin

[asumike83]

Anybody know VaTech's QB situation. Could effect the margin

Logan Thomas is their starter this year. He's either a Sophomore or Redshirt Freshman I believe. Big kid, about 6-6 or so with a really strong arm and very highly regarded out of high school. He's got little to no game experience but a world of talent, so it's hard to say how he'll do. Losing Tyrod Taylor and their top 2 RB's is a big loss for any offense, so I'm hoping that the inexperience under center and in the backfield will work in our favor. Winning the game would be a long shot, but if the defense plays well then I'm hoping we can at least make it interesting.

[biggie]

Hopefully (and would assume) he is more of a pocket passer, which should change their offense. Hope it helps us. And do like our D in previous years with a pocket passer instead of a dual threat.

[AppStsGr8]

I have concerns about the inexperience of the App O-line. I have no doubts about the wide receivers and the backfield. Their effectiveness may be limited if the O-line doesn't stop the VT defense. I'm hoping the switch to the 3-4 defense works to the good for App.

I don't see App winning this one, though a few good bounces and big plays might make it interesting. I'm looking forward to being in Blacksburg in 10 days, 29 minutes ... and counting.

[biggie]

As posted by a VT guy on MMB, the TV affilates carrying the game:

http://www.theacc.com/live/2011-acc-football-match-center-appalachian-state-at-virginia-tech.html

[whoanellie]

Really this game will be a non-contest. Tech will be ready and so will their following. The Hokies will
start to dominate and the mastery of Jerry Moore will surface he will pull his main starters so they won't be crippled
to save the rest of his season. Special teams will be huge and could make the score a bit more one-sided. An ACC way of Welcome to FBS
is not BCS football. Take the Money, Honey!!!

[Side Judge]

Why no ASU luv gents? Any Given Saturday and all that - especially the first Saturday of the season...

Let this Hen fan throw some props ASU's way - I'm guessing Coach Moore's pissed at the way last season ended, and has spent many an hour in his man cave viewing tape of last year's JMU-VT game. If the Dukes could stop Tyrod Taylor then ASU will find a way to stop Logan Thomas (Logan Thomas?)...

App 27 Tech 21

[TheRevSFA]

App 31-VT 28.

Yep I'm calling the upset special

[Squealofthepig]

Why no ASU luv gents?

I think most (myself included) remember VT's loss to the Dukes of JMU last year, and think VT will come out this year with something to prove.

But like just about every other fan in the FCS (excepting some SoCon rivals of ASU), I'll be pulling for the Mountaineers to pull off the upset!

[I-16Bandit]

VTech: 24
App: 17

[bonarae]

Bumping it just in time...

[BlackNGoldR3v0lut10n]

I believe Virginia Tech wins but it will closer than you think (I could be wrong).

[GunsAndGuitars]

App 31-VT 28.

Yep I'm calling the upset special

I said 31-24. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one in that score range.

[appfan2008]

If you are calling for an upset go 34-32

[tribefan40]

I'll be pulling for App to keep it close, but I'm not sure how thats gonna work out. Logan Thomas is certainly limited in game experience, but the kid is a FREAK with a cannon and plenty of speed. The third string back taking over this year is far from unproven, and has shown to be a game changer. Should be interesting to see how app's defense holds up, and like many have said I think they will for at least a quarter or two. I'm gonna say Tech takes it 35-10, but it may be something like 21-10 going in to the fourth.

[SpartanLegion]

VT 42 App State 17. VT will wear them down in the 4th quarter with their advantage in scholarship players.

[Side Judge]

Washington Post had a write-up about the upcoming App - Tech game:


...
[Bud] Foster said the Mountaineers are more explosive than both James Madison and Georgia Tech. They pass the ball more frequently and utilize lots of multiple-receiver sets – quarterback DeAndre Presley threw for more than 2,600 yards in 2010 – but they do so after setting up a defense with a steady stream of option plays. Appalachian State averaged close to 431 yards per game last year, and about 217 came on the ground.

Presley, a player Foster said “could play anywhere in the country,” is the focal point in all of this. He’s a threat to run it on every play, but he’s got an arm and a receiver (6-foot-5 wideout Brian Quick) to match.

Allow Presley to dictate the action, and it could be a long afternoon at Lane Stadium. To avoid that, Foster says discipline will be the key, something he’s already imparted on his players early on this week.

...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/hokies-journal/post/appalachian-states-spead-option-attack-will-test-hokies-defense/2011/08/30/gIQARoIcpJ_blog.html

[asumike83]

Washington Post had a write-up about the upcoming App - Tech game:


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/hokies-journal/post/appalachian-states-spead-option-attack-will-test-hokies-defense/2011/08/30/gIQARoIcpJ_blog.html

Great article, thanks for the link!

I think ASU can hang for at least a half if our young players can handle playing in that environment. Logan Thomas is unproven but is quite a talent. If we can keep him off balance and get a few bounces to go our way, anything can happen but an upset is unlikely, especially after what happened last year.

VT 31
ASU 17

[biggie]

Based on the article it has me thinking they may be afraid to send rusher after DP too quickly and should give him some WR looks. If our young WRs and Jorden do well (figure BQ will be doubled) then I can give our O a decent chance of scoring well.

Would then just be up to the D, that could get scary.

Only 3 days, wished I could take off from work and start tailgating now.

[91Niner]

VTech 44
ASU 13

[Apphole]

27-17 VT

[Appaholic]

WE'll win....played it on Wii last night...Armanti hit DJ for a bomb to the 2yd line with 3 seconds left to set up an Rauch chip-shot FG...34-31 App.....heluva game...we're in the good...bet on it....

[SideLine Shooter]

WE'll win....played it on Wii last night...Armanti hit DJ for a bomb to the 2yd line with 3 seconds left to set up an Rauch chip-shot FG...34-31 App.....heluva game...we're in the good...bet on it....

What are you SMOKIN?

[Monarch History]

I would love for the Mountaineers to win against the Hokies but I think bad memories from last year as well overall talent will rule the day! VT 41 & ASU 17

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

VT: 35-10


VT is usually a very good FBS team but I'm still "rooting" for Appy State.

[GunsAndGuitars]

Only 3 days, wished I could take off from work and start tailgating now.

xnodx Enough said.

[blackfordpu]

A repeat of the 1982 game.

agreed

[Purple7]

VT is usually a very good FBS team

Until they play a ranked opponent and then they are very bad. I am counting Appy State as a ranked team! Good Luck Mountaineers!

[Side Judge]

Know thy enemy - today's Wash Post has an article on VT QB Logan Thomas - big hoss (6'6" 254) from Lynchburg (how'd the Flames miss out on him?) - money quote:


“Nobody knows Lynchburg for anything but Jerry Falwell. Or they’ll talk about the Lynchburg in Tennessee where they make Jack Daniel’s,” Thomas said, the smile returning to his face. “Maybe I could give it a new name. That’s what I hope to do."

With just 26 career collegiate passes to his name, Thomas will be the biggest unknown for No. 13 Virginia Tech as it tries to turn Coach Frank Beamer’s 25th season at the school into a memorable one...

Much more at http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/virginia-tech-football-logan-thomas-carries-local-fame-in-lynchburg-on-to-blacksburg/2011/08/31/gIQAuPL1sJ_story.html [free but registration reqd]

[asumike83]

Logan Thomas pops his ACL on the first series, which makes their offense one-dimensional. After David Wilson suffers a concussion on the second series, Frank Beamer has a heart attack on the sideline, falls over and knocks Bud Foster unconscious on his way down. The Hokies are then nothing but chickens running around with their heads cut off.

ASU 79
VT 6

[ASUMountaineer]

Logan Thomas pops his ACL on the first series, which makes their offense one-dimensional. After David Wilson suffers a concussion on the second series, Frank Beamer has a heart attack on the sideline, falls over and knocks Bud Foster unconscious on his way down. The Hokies are then nothing but chickens running around with their heads cut off.

ASU 79
VT 6

Now THAT is an imagination that can't be taught. xlolx

[Apphole]

Logan Thomas pops his ACL on the first series, which makes their offense one-dimensional. After David Wilson suffers a concussion on the second series, Frank Beamer has a heart attack on the sideline, falls over and knocks Bud Foster unconscious on his way down. The Hokies are then nothing but chickens running around with their heads cut off.

ASU 79
VT 6

xlolxxsmileyclapxxlolxxsmileyclapxxlolx

[AppAlum2003]

Logan Thomas pops his ACL on the first series, which makes their offense one-dimensional. After David Wilson suffers a concussion on the second series, Frank Beamer has a heart attack on the sideline, falls over and knocks Bud Foster unconscious on his way down. The Hokies are then nothing but chickens running around with their heads cut off.

ASU 79
VT 6

You could write a book for Oprah with an imagination like that.... maybe call it "A Million Little Hokies"

[asumike83]

You could write a book for Oprah with an imagination like that.... maybe call it "A Million Little Hokies"

Think I need to copyright that. I'm going to take the pen name Mike Frey and get to work!

[Side Judge]

You could write a book for Oprah with an imagination like that.... maybe call it "A Million Little Hokies"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAhuSDRIDHE&feature=related

[appfan2008]

What are you SMOKIN?

I dont know what he is smoking but ill have some!

[SpeedkingATL]

App State 3
Va Tech 2

Go Apps!

[Appaholic]

What are you SMOKIN?

It's 2007 NCAA wii......

[biggie]

Little shocked when looking for VT/ASU articles that Stubhub came up, cheapest ticket is $87 per.

[biggie]

A bump since I may be one of the few App fans working today and damn do I not want to be here. Not even enough people here at work to mention the Wake game last night.

[asumike83]

A bump since I may be one of the few App fans working today and damn do I not want to be here. Not even enough people here at work to mention the Wake game last night.

I'm right there with you man, this is miserable. I'll be getting out around 1:00 and heading up to VA!

[biggie]

I'm right there with you man, this is miserable. I'll be getting out around 1:00 and heading up to VA!
Got to wait until 4:30 or so today, not going up until the morning, sucks.

[StorminASU]

I'm right there with you man, this is miserable. I'll be getting out around 1:00 and heading up to VA!

I'm here too, how is everyone else getting off today?

Getting off at 5 and heading up to WV to see an old friend, then heading over to Blacksburg tomorrow to watch us upset the Turkeys

[Apphole]

Leaving at 2. Huck the fokies

[asknoquarter21]

Leaving work at 2

Leaving the house at 6:30 in the morning

[StorminASU]

You gotta check this out



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut4v1hPkYBk&feature=player_embedded

[asumike83]

That video reminds me of my old high school football coach. Now I wanna hit somebody, thanks a lot!

[biggie]

Indeed, nice vid as usual. 4 hours til out of work, 17 hours until I leave the house.

[StorminASU]

Where's GAS when we need him to continue his countdown hourly, haha. Two and a half hours of work left!!!

[jus10asu]

Anybody know where to watch this online? It says its blacked out in the region on ESPN3. Load of crap if you ask me.

[biggie]

Lots of TV outlets, there's alink in here somewhere.

[AppMAN04]

I think the ACC network is airing it also. Local stations here in NC


GO APPS!

[GunsAndGuitars]

9.5 hours until I leave home. 6.5 hours before I wake up, feed my cows, check the calves, and make sure the bull is happy enough to not kill somebody. I'll unload the truck into the car for the climb up highway 8.

Anybody that wants to know a "scenic shortcut" to get to the game from the Winston-Salem area let me know. SW VA is my native home, and I know 999 Bajillion ways to spell "Hokies" because of it. Dislike (translated: HATRED) of VT runs deep for me. Here's to the pokey Hokie being an early Thanksgiving dinner for Yosef and the Mountaineer family xnodx.

[Milktruck74]

Kinda Quiet? How's that new defense working out?

[The Eagle's Cliff]

Kinda Quiet? How's that new defense working out?

Lol

[ElonPride]

Kinda Quiet? How's that new defense working out?

xlolx

[glsjunior]

STOP THE FIGHT!

[whoanellie]

totally a mis match.... save your players Jerry Moore ....45- zippo lighter

[umassfan]

357 yards for VaTech early in the 3rd and 45 pts.... OUCH!!!

[ninerID]

the score is closer than this game is

[umassfan]

52-0

[straightshooter]

Jerry might be wishing he hadn't gone to the 3-4 defense. It will not work if you don't have spectacular DL, especially in the middle. Looks like App St's kids have given up. I remember that happening at Georgia Southern one year - GSU 54 - AppSt 7. Coach Moore called his players "sissies" after the game. Not watching the game, so it's tough to comment, but something has certainly gone wrong for the boys from Boone. I'm sure they went up there thinking they had a chance.

[49RFootballNow]

DAYUM! I'm actually being morally forced to hope the Appys make a score.

[jmufan]

A lot of missed tackles and a lot of misreads from the secondary. On top of that, they just looked slow today. However, their offense seems to be knocking at the door.

[GSU1-A]

Moving up to FBS doesn't seem so fun now eh?

[49RFootballNow]

A lot of missed tackles and a lot of misreads from the secondary. On top of that, they just looked slow today. However, their offense seems to be knocking at the door.

WOW, a turnover. On the 1 yard line too.

[umassfan]

A lot of missed tackles and a lot of misreads from the secondary. On top of that, they just looked slow today. However, their offense seems to be knocking at the door.
There goes that idea... lol

[ElonPride]

the score is closer than this game is

ouch.

I do feel for NCA&T......having to play App after coming off this loss. Probably not going to be a pretty game.

[49RFootballNow]

Well there's your touchdown Appys!

[chattownmocs]

Breaking News: the app state committee has rethought its decision and decided that a move to the FBS would be idiotic after all.

[phan]

Based on this score the Chatty score should be about 120-0xsalutex

[chattownmocs]

Based on this score the Chatty score should be about 120-0xsalutex

Kewl story bro

[ElonPride]

Man.....that fat appy fan, no shirt and spiked mullet takes the cake.....

[The Cats]

Appy State must have left their A game at home. xnodx

[AppChicago]

Rough game. Stings a lot.

I guess this means Chatty and WCU is going to beat us too, huh? I mean, take it to the bank, right?

Otherwise you guys will probably look pretty dumb when you lose to the team that lost so badly to vt, eh?

[The Cats]

Rough game. Stings a lot.

I guess this means Chatty and WCU is going to beat us too, huh? I mean, take it to the bank, right?

Otherwise you guys will probably look pretty dumb when you lose to the team that lost so badly to vt, eh?

Hey dude, I'm not saying we'll beat Appy, but guess what? That's why we'll play the games. Any Given Saturday, remember?


(PS, You goones ALWAYS read lots more into posts than what is stated in plain English).

(PSS. But, you'll know you've got real problems if A&T kickes your a$$ next Saturday).

[chattownmocs]

Rough game. Stings a lot.

I guess this means Chatty and WCU is going to beat us too, huh? I mean, take it to the bank, right?

Otherwise you guys will probably look pretty dumb when you lose to the team that lost so badly to vt, eh?

Yeah, Chatty is getting their *** whipped too. They arent the ones trying to move up. And yes they are going to whip Appy up and down the field.

[chattownmocs]

Mocs go backwards and punt. Nebraska takes over at their own 44 with 1:06 remaining in the opening half.

[Apphole]

I feel really bad for A&T.

[WileECoyote06]

Hey dude, I'm not saying we'll beat Appy, but guess what? That's why we'll play the games. Any Given Saturday, remember?


(PS, You goones ALWAYS read lots more into posts than what is stated in plain English).

(PSS. But, you'll know you've got real problems if A&T kickes your a$$ next Saturday).

Especially considering their scholarship losses. A & T is playing with D2 level scholarships right now.

[91Niner]

ouch.

I do feel for NCA&T......having to play App after coming off this loss. Probably not going to be a pretty game.

Couldnt be much uglier than this one was.........

[boonedocks]

Couldnt be much uglier than this one was.........


Truth.

[Mountaineer#96]

That was just plain awful.

Oh well.....can't wait to play the rest of the schedule A & T, Savannah, and Chatty should be good home game tune ups for the rest of the SoCon slate.

Happy that Coach Moore pulled our starters since it was pointless to risk it at the end.

[elon77]

Quote from the Virginian Pilot from DeAndre Presley, "I wouldn't classify them as an elite team". He wasn't impressed with the Hokies? Well dang DeAndre, what would have impressed you?

[T-Dog]

Things that didn't suck from Blacksburg.

1) I stayed THE. ENTIRE. GAME.

1a) Proof

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f271/tdog231x/App/DSCN1718.jpg

2) This guy.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f271/tdog231x/App/DSCN1705.jpg

3) This guy, who have me a custom rubber wristband for his Facebook page.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f271/tdog231x/App/DSCN1702.jpg

4) The April 16th memorial and Burress Hall. I actually went by before daybreak when it was illuminated and it's quite the sight.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f271/tdog231x/App/DSCN1692.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f271/tdog231x/App/DSCN1694.jpg

5) Enter Sandman entrance. Hard to beat seeing an entire stadium jumping.

I would talk about the game, but my therapist told me I shouldn't.

[ninerID]

unfortunately for ya'll, punts aren't worth points.

That kid has a freaking leg on him.

[blueballs]

Quote from the Virginian Pilot from DeAndre Presley, "I wouldn't classify them as an elite team". He wasn't impressed with the Hokies? Well dang DeAndre, what would have impressed you?

Sometimes 'tis better to keep one's mouth shut and thought to be a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.

[Skjellyfetti]

Quote from the Virginian Pilot from DeAndre Presley, "I wouldn't classify them as an elite team". He wasn't impressed with the Hokies? Well dang DeAndre, what would have impressed you?

Here's the quote in full context. He was in a no win trying to answer the question:


Saturday also proved that sometimes reality can be taken out of context.

Following the game, USA Today and Associated Press ran a story with a headline reading "App State's Presley: Virginia Tech Not 'Elite' After 66-13 Loss." Many of those in the interview room where the postgame press conference was held felt that the published quotes did not fit the context of ASU quarterback DeAndre Presley's actual response to what seemed to be a leading question.

The following is the quote used in the USA Today story:

"Not taking anything away from them, but I wouldn't classify them as an elite team," Presley said after the game. "We stopped ourselves so many times. ... We made them look better than what they were. I believe so."

Here is the question exactly as it was asked to Presley and fellow senior Ed Gainey following the loss:

Q: "Are you guys able to say that this was an elite team and a bigger classification and just kind of brush it off that way?"

Ed Gainey: "Not at all. We made a lot of mistakes and we brought this upon ourselves. They are a good football team but we feel we're just as good as they are."

DeAndre Presley: "I feel the same way. Not taking anything away from them but I wouldn't classify them as an 'elite team.' Like Ed said, we stopped ourselves so many times. When you get the ball inside your 20, you've got to score and that's exactly what they did. They capitalized on our turnovers and our mistakes, I believe so. I'm not taking anything away from them but I think we made them look better than what they were."

The question left the student-athletes - both leaders on their team - in a no-win situation. Had they responded affirmatively, they're telling their teammates, coaches and fans that they feel like they didn't belong on the same field as Virginia Tech. If they answer as they did - admitting that they were outplayed by a good team but refusing to say that they're not in the same class as the 11 guys lined up across from them - they're accused of having no respect for an opponent that just vanquished them.

Additionally, the comments deleted from Presley's published quote would have helped better shape the context of his response, as you can see above. Presley is one of the most humble and respectful student-athletes to come through an Appalachian program that prides itself on class and to those who heard his response first-hand on Saturday, it was clear that he meant no disrespect to an equally classy Virginia Tech program.

However, it does not change the fact that both he and Gainey feel that the Mountaineers are much more capable than what they showed Saturday at Lane Stadium. Personally, I'd rather hear two players admitting that the team made mistakes that helped take the ballgame down an out-of-control path rather than them feeling like, competitively, they didn't belong there in the first place.

http://www.goasu.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=205266826

[blueballs]

BS. That is spin. The correct response is "They are a great team. They beat our butts by 53 and now we need to regroup and concentrate on getting better. All our big picture goals are still in front of us so we need to get back to work Monday and get ready for A&T."

[crossfire07]

Politicians have made that "out of context" line famous. read the words as one said it and it is what it is.

[OL FU]

BS. That is spin. The correct response is "They are a great team. They beat our butts by 53 and now we need to regroup and concentrate on getting better. All our big picture goals are still in front of us so we need to get back to work Monday and get ready for A&T."

We may not have agreed on the other thread, but we agree on this one. The above was the correct response. and Presley better hope they are an elite team.

[AppChicago]

Politicians have made that "out of context" line famous. read the words as one said it and it is what it is.

Right. So read the words as they were said. I'd think the longer quote would help you do that more effectively, no?

[theasushow]

Well it is also easy for us to sit at home in front of the computer and think for 5 minutes and then type what he "should have said," but maybe when you are sitting in the press room at Lane stadium (after getting absolutely humiliated in front of 70,000) with the entire ACC media asking probing questions then you are more likely to say stuff that in retrospect may be ill-advised.

[chattownmocs]

Gainey's quote was even dumber. "We feel we are as good as they are" LOL 52-0 less than 3 minutes into the 2nd half?

[asumike83]

Gainey's quote was even dumber. "We feel we are as good as they are" LOL 52-0 less than 3 minutes into the 2nd half?

Jesus, I hate to agree with you but that was SO dumb. I know that much of this can be chalked up to what happens when you put a mic in the face of a 21 year old who just got embarrassed in front of 60-70K, but I was still shocked. You can talk all you want about how badly you played but when you are asked about the quality of a team that just beat you by 53 points, no matter what you think, you say "VT is a great team who played a great game today". End of quote.

[Mikeyosef]

As for DP's comments, I think, if you change "Wouldn't classify them as an elite team" to "Couldn't classify them as an elite team" you would get closer to what DP was trying to say. At least, from what I saw in the game that's what I would say. VT is a very good team that was totally primed and pumped for that game. While, with a score like this, I hope they prove to be an elite team, I'm worried App State made them look elite...meaning we may have some serious challenges this year. Yes we've had some lopsided losses but I've been watching App State football since the early 80s and I can't recall being manhandled like this by anyone...except for maybe the App State v Clemson team in 83(?) when they had William "Refrigerator" Perry.

Gainey's comment sounds more like what the coaches say just before a game like this, not what you expect to hear in a news conference after being traunced, stomped on, crushed, humiliated, etc. It's just unfortunate.xsmhx

[ASUMountaineer]

Moving up to FBS doesn't seem so fun now eh?

Well, definitely if a move up still required ASU to compete with 22 less scholarships and the same budget. Fortunately, those two things would not hold true. Would we be able to compete with a BCS national championship contender? Maybe not, but we'd probably have a better chance.