View Full Version : 2 for 1 I-A/I-AA games???
TxSt02
March 30th, 2006, 01:39 AM
I don't think this has happend before but just giving it thought...
1. Do you think a I-AA team would do this? I am talking about the following type teams:
Houston
Rice
San Jose State
All Sun Belt Teams
Most MAC teams
Rutgers
Temple etc...
I am talking about a I-AA traveling to your place with your team agreeing to two return trips with no money exchanging...
2. Would you like have a Houston type team come to your place for return trips??? As fan or an AD...
TxSt02
March 30th, 2006, 01:40 AM
I would love to have a "name" team coming into town!
golionsgo
March 30th, 2006, 01:52 AM
I don't think this has happend before but just giving it thought...
1. Do you think a I-AA team would do this? I am talking about the following type teams:
Houston
Rice
San Jose State
All Sun Belt Teams
Most MAC teams
Rutgers
Temple etc...
I am talking about a I-AA traveling to your place with your team agreeing to two return trips with no money exchanging...
2. Would you like have a Houston type team come to your place for return trips??? As fan or an AD...
I'm sure a lot of I-AA schools would love such an arrangement but you'll never get a I-A school to bite. I doubt there's a I-A AD in the country with enough job security to pull that one off. Would be nice but ain't gonna happen.
ucdtim17
March 30th, 2006, 03:35 AM
I think more important than the stigma of a I-A playing at a I-AA is money. It'd have to be enough of a guarantee to overcome the stigma and it'd have to be a I-A who really needed the money. The bottom of the I-A barrel (those listed) isn't really much more of a draw than most I-AA teams, so it's something of a moot point I think
TexasTerror
March 30th, 2006, 07:54 AM
Isn't UMass and like Army in the midst of two for one as we speak? It has happened before...
And why would UH or Rice come to a I-AA? Rice has been able to get home-and-homes with Big XII schools like Texas Tech, Oklahoma St and Kansas! They were able to get 2 for 1 deals with Texas and UCLA.
Houston wouldn't do it either. They are a team that is competing for a bowl game year in and year out. They've been able to some of the lower I-A competition (New Mexico St, ULL) to do home and home with them. Even did a home-and-home with Oregon.
None of these teams have any reason to do this...
Sorry to burst your bubble, especially with Rice who is heading in the right direction under a new coach, but that would definitely be a turn for the wrong door if they decided to do that. Seems like a 'Bobcat Pipe Dream'...
McNeese72
March 30th, 2006, 08:38 AM
Dream on!!
eaglesrthe1
March 30th, 2006, 08:43 AM
Dream on!!
Idaho and Montana did a 1-1 just as recently as 02'-03'. Montana won on both ends. Talk about having your cake...
AmsterBison
March 30th, 2006, 08:49 AM
Maybe if they eliminate the DI-AA label, it'll happen more often. They've already made playing DI-A v DI-AA matchups less punitive for DI-A teams.
ChickenMan
March 30th, 2006, 08:50 AM
It's very difficult to get a I-A to agree to play at a I-AA. Delaware and Navy played a home/home series from '85 - '90... but since then all UD/Navy games have been played in Annapolis.
89Hen
March 30th, 2006, 09:29 AM
I think more important than the stigma of a I-A playing at a I-AA is money. It'd have to be enough of a guarantee to overcome the stigma and it'd have to be a I-A who really needed the money. The bottom of the I-A barrel (those listed) isn't really much more of a draw than most I-AA teams, so it's something of a moot point I think
There are a couple of I-A's who might stand to make more money from visting a I-AA than hosting one. Problem is, they'd rather visit a BCS I-A that's going to pay them even more.
Montana - 22479
Delaware - 22177
Yale - 21667
Southern - 19888
Appalachian State - 17917
LA-Lafayette - 17591
Duke - 17486
North Texas - 16446
Louisiana Tech - 16416
Georgia Southern - 16241
Central Michigan - 15971
Miami (Ohio) - 15241
Florida A&M - 15177
Tennessee St - 15023
Idaho - 15175
Nevada - 15076
Houston - 15054
Bowling Green - 14929
LA-Monroe - 14617
N.C. A&T - 14610
Jackson State - 14597
Youngstown - 14544
Middle Tennessee - 14526
Tulane - 14242
South Carolina State - 14226
Alabama State - 14182
North Dakota State - 14160
McNeese State - 14000*
Montana State - 13710
James Madison - 13525
Ball State - 12953
Texas State - 12875
Western Kentucky - 12798
Temple - 12735
New Mexico State - 12557
San Jose State - 12506
Grambling - 12214
Harvard - 12169
Norfolk State - 12009
Citadel - 11674
Jacksonville State - 11389
Furman - 11052
Villanova - 10939
Utah State - 10896
Akron - 10893
Missouri State - 10660
Lehigh - 10656
Northern Iowa - 10628
Western Illinois - 10552
Texas Southern - 10233
Weber State - 10151
Pennsylvania - 10142
Rice - 10072
Buffalo - 8914
Kent State - 6658
Eastern Michigan - 5219
*McNeese given Rita relief
Hansel
March 30th, 2006, 09:52 AM
There are a couple of I-A's who might stand to make more money from visting a I-AA than hosting one. Problem is, they'd rather visit a BCS I-A that's going to pay them even more.
Montana - 22479
Delaware - 22177
Yale - 21667
Southern - 19888
Appalachian State - 17917
LA-Lafayette - 17591
Duke - 17486
North Texas - 16446
Louisiana Tech - 16416
Georgia Southern - 16241
Central Michigan - 15971
Miami (Ohio) - 15241
Florida A&M - 15177
Tennessee St - 15023
Idaho - 15175
Nevada - 15076
Houston - 15054
Bowling Green - 14929
LA-Monroe - 14617
N.C. A&T - 14610
Jackson State - 14597
Youngstown - 14544
Middle Tennessee - 14526
Tulane - 14242
South Carolina State - 14226
Alabama State - 14182
Montana State - 13710
James Madison - 13525
Ball State - 12953
Texas State - 12875
Western Kentucky - 12798
Temple - 12735
New Mexico State - 12557
San Jose State - 12506
Grambling - 12214
Harvard - 12169
Norfolk State - 12009
Citadel - 11674
Jacksonville State - 11389
Furman - 11052
Villanova - 10939
Utah State - 10896
Akron - 10893
Missouri State - 10660
Lehigh - 10656
Northern Iowa - 10628
Western Illinois - 10552
Texas Southern - 10233
Weber State - 10151
Pennsylvania - 10142
Rice - 10072
Buffalo - 8914
Kent State - 6658
Eastern Michigan - 5219
*cough* NDSU- 14,160
also, didn't know Duke had such yitty attendance
Cocky
March 30th, 2006, 10:02 AM
I would rather go to a nearby BCS school 3 times with a big check than host any of those teams on a 2 of 1 basis. If you could get a home and home, I might change my mind.
At JSU, several I-AA schools would draw as well as San Jose State, Houston, Rice, or any MAC or SunBelt school. Send me Delaware, Montana, UNI, App, Villanova, UMASS, or most any other good to decent I-AA on a home and home deal.
We had 13,982 for Furman no I-A that should be I-AA would draw than many in the Snow.
89Hen
March 30th, 2006, 10:03 AM
*cough* NDSU- 14,160
My apologies. The NCAA lists NDSU, UNC, SDSU and UC-D at the bottom of the page. Fixed. In all fairness, McNeese should be on the list with their normal attendance of 12-16K.
Bobcat94
March 30th, 2006, 04:39 PM
Oh! Oh! Oh! Don't forget us....
Texas State 12,875 (2005 per NCAA)
Bobcat94
March 30th, 2006, 04:40 PM
I would rather go to a nearby BCS school 3 times with a big check than host any of those teams on a 2 of 1 basis. If you could get a home and home, I might change my mind.
At JSU, several I-AA schools would draw as well as San Jose State, Houston, Rice, or any MAC or SunBelt school. Send me Delaware, Montana, UNI, App, Villanova, UMASS, or most any other good to decent I-AA on a home and home deal.
We had 13,982 for Furman no I-A that should be I-AA would draw than many in the Snow.
Agreed give me GSU, Delaware, Montana, UNI, App, Villanova, UMASS
Hell getting to play McNeese every year is a good thing.......
twentythreeOh4
March 31st, 2006, 01:04 AM
Idaho and Montana did a 1-1 just as recently as 02'-03'. Montana won on both ends. Talk about having your cake...
Actually Montana and Idaho had a 5 year deal. UM got 3 home games, UI had 2. Idaho won the first game, but the Griz won the next 4.
kats89
March 31st, 2006, 06:47 AM
UH and Rice are too arrogant and would NEVER travel to a I-AA. After a couple of close calls, Rice won't schedule us anymore and UH, well let's just say it is UH.
GAD
March 31st, 2006, 09:02 AM
I don't think this has happend before but just giving it thought...
1. Do you think a I-AA team would do this? I am talking about the following type teams:
Houston
Rice
San Jose State
All Sun Belt Teams
Most MAC teams
Rutgers
Temple etc...
I am talking about a I-AA traveling to your place with your team agreeing to two return trips with no money exchanging...
2. Would you like have a Houston type team come to your place for return trips??? As fan or an AD...
Perhaps if the I-AA decides to have there game at a neutral site.
Ronbo
March 31st, 2006, 10:21 AM
There are a couple of I-A's who might stand to make more money from visting a I-AA than hosting one. Problem is, they'd rather visit a BCS I-A that's going to pay them even more.
Montana - 22479
Delaware - 22177
Yale - 21667
Southern - 19888
Appalachian State - 17917
LA-Lafayette - 17591
Duke - 17486
North Texas - 16446
Louisiana Tech - 16416
Georgia Southern - 16241
Central Michigan - 15971
Miami (Ohio) - 15241
Florida A&M - 15177
Tennessee St - 15023
Idaho - 15175
Nevada - 15076
Houston - 15054
Bowling Green - 14929
LA-Monroe - 14617
N.C. A&T - 14610
Jackson State - 14597
Youngstown - 14544
Middle Tennessee - 14526
Tulane - 14242
South Carolina State - 14226
Alabama State - 14182
North Dakota State - 14160
McNeese State - 14000*
Montana State - 13710
James Madison - 13525
Ball State - 12953
Texas State - 12875
Western Kentucky - 12798
Temple - 12735
New Mexico State - 12557
San Jose State - 12506
Grambling - 12214
Harvard - 12169
Norfolk State - 12009
Citadel - 11674
Jacksonville State - 11389
Furman - 11052
Villanova - 10939
Utah State - 10896
Akron - 10893
Missouri State - 10660
Lehigh - 10656
Northern Iowa - 10628
Western Illinois - 10552
Texas Southern - 10233
Weber State - 10151
Pennsylvania - 10142
Rice - 10072
Buffalo - 8914
Kent State - 6658
Eastern Michigan - 5219
*McNeese given Rita relief
Remember the 22,479 figure has the Thanksgiving playoff game included (16,000). For the regular season we averaged 23,500.
When we played Idaho, we paid them $200,000. Tickets were $5 higher for that game.
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