Huge movements coming in NCAA Division 1 football

[TennesseeBoyintheRockies]

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[Dane96]

I thought by that title that someone was taking a ****.

As far as I know, and my cousin is a football alumn at FSU...they are going nowhere because...wait for it...they haven't been approached. It would be one of the biggest kept secrets at a school that can't keep secrets.

And Florida State going to the ACC does nothing to gut the Big East...that is of course if they have been invited and are going.

If you are basing this on "The Bleacher Report"...well then...

[Skjellyfetti]

There's also a side rumor that Florida State will be one of the four invited. With the potential gutting of the ACC, Big East, and Conference USA in another major domino shift, I believe Appalachian State will now make a move to FBS sooner rather than later with the hopes of landing a spot in either the Big East or Conference USA.

Stop teasing me.

[TexasTerror]

FYI - a thread regarding Texas A&M..

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?88738-Texas-A-amp-M-to-SEC-Rumors-Heating-Up...-Again

[citdog]

I just had a HUGE MOVEMENT myself. Didn't forget to wipe my 'joseph smith' either.

[superman7515]

I just had a HUGE MOVEMENT myself. Didn't forget to wipe my 'joseph smith' either.

Remember, when you gotta go, don't squeeze the Mormon.

[MSUBear42]

I thought CUSA was wanting a more centrally located school(s)?

[DFW HOYA]

Obviously, this thread does not concern the Patriot League.

[Dane96]

Hmmmm....well, if the PL decided to go scholly...there definitely would be a huge movement.

[dgtw]

The Big XII may stand pat if they aren't decimated too much.

Actually, if they lose Texas A&M, they will have been decimated.

[crossfire07]

I just had a HUGE MOVEMENT myself.

That my friend was an exact replica of a whiney *** Aggie.

[whoanellie]

It's all about the Longhorn Football Network and Texas' arrogance vs the Southwest/ Big 12 or whatever they are now a days.
I guess Notre Dame and Texas could do better if they had NFL package deal but it's not shabby.
8 or 9 probable home games. special benefits? what if they pull an Ohio St? at least the SoCon preceeds Lawrence Welk on Public TV.
can I get some polka vibes out there?

[jmufan]

So from my understanding, this deal really hasn't been approved yet. SEC Presidents meet this weekend and will likely vote on TAMU, IF they agree to let TAMU in, then the BOR at TAMU will have to vote to accept the invitation on Aug 22 (which would be a done deal). So need to hear what the SEC says after this weekend, and they have been eerily quiet on the whole thing. http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2011-08-11/source-report-of-texas-am-accepting-sec-invitation-just-not-true

[aust42]

My TX A&M alumni friend sent me this link. Jackie Sherrill thinks there will be four 20 team mega conferences in a couple/few years: Wow


http://www.247hogs.com/?p=316

[superman7515]

They've been saying that for two years, nothing new there.

[Dane96]

Jesus....people we are a week away from the start of football season and people are posting old news, speculation and rumor.

There should be plenty of other things to talk about.

[Bogus Megapardus]

Obviously, this thread does not concern the Patriot League.

All threads can concern the Patriot League if you really try, and this board proves it time and time again. You just have to think in terms of "six degrees of separation."

[Bogus Megapardus]

a huge movement.

See what I mean? A Lehigh reference already.

[WestCoastAggie]

Obviously, this thread does not concern the Patriot League.

Nor the MEAC or OVC sans Jacksonville State.

[dgtw]

They've been saying that for two years, nothing new there.

I've seen so many rumors about conference changes that my atitude is I'll believe it when it happens. Chippy Brown was telling so many different stories last year it was hard to keep up.

[appfan2008]

My TX A&M alumni friend sent me this link. Jackie Sherrill thinks there will be four 20 team mega conferences in a couple/few years: Wow


http://www.247hogs.com/?p=316

who knows what will happen but it is fascinating to ponder (for the last 2 years........)

[TexasTerror]

Nor the MEAC or OVC sans Jacksonville State.

OVC may be making a move on UNA, NKU and/or Bellarmine in the next few months... OVC is trying to confirm UNA's financial ability to follow through with their benchmarks... NKU is locked into a move into Div I and Bellarmine... still TBD.

[aust42]

They've been saying that for two years, nothing new there.

I've seen all the rumors but Jackie Sherrill is credible.

[Dane96]

Why is Jackie Sherril credible?

Becaue he is a famous coach, who oh...btw...cheated?

Or because he still has a lawsuit against the NCAA for defamation? Notice, the bulk of his comments deal with how the NCAA won't exist.

I'd call anything he says suspect at best...ax to grind more likely. Not saying it won't happen...just that it shouldn't be believed as credible because Jackie Sherrill says it is.

[TheRevSFA]

I just had a huge movement here at Pennzoil Place in Houston. Ironically when it was done, before I flushed, it said "i'm going to the waaaaaacccccccc"

[LeadBolt]

Four super 20 team conferences would leave approx. 35% of the current and transitioning FBS teams out. It would seem to me that those schools, along with FCS, D2 & D3 would still need a governing body. Would this likely be a revised NCAA or something else?

From a FCS standpoint, the current schools plus the bottom 40 +/- FBS schools would seem to make a good sized, competitive level of play, unless the top schools jack their scholies way up. This kind of re-organiztion might end up strengthening FCS by bringing in 40 competitive programs....

[superman7515]

Four super 20 team conferences would leave approx. 35% of the current and transitioning FBS teams out.

You understand that once anyone with a Charlotte or Georgia State avatar says anything about this, even if it isn't related to their school, that this thread is going to degenerate to the 7th level of hell...

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m201/wearingsa/MEACFansZone/popcorn1.gif

[superman7515]

Why is Jackie Sherril credible?

Becaue he is a famous coach, who oh...btw...cheated?

Or because he still has a lawsuit against the NCAA for defamation? Notice, the bulk of his comments deal with how the NCAA won't exist.

I'd call anything he says suspect at best...ax to grind more likely. Not saying it won't happen...just that it shouldn't be believed as credible because Jackie Sherrill says it is.

I agree. Sounds like he's just parroting what a lot of others have been saying for a while now and his past lends no credibility to his statements for me.

[Dane96]

You understand that once anyone with a Charlotte or Georgia State avatar says anything about this, even if it isn't related to their school, that this thread is going to degenerate to the 7th level of hell...

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m201/wearingsa/MEACFansZone/popcorn1.gif

Nice, we will need stiff competition for the "petering" APP FBS thread.

[Saint3333]

3 tiers of Division One Football.

[LeadBolt]

You understand that once anyone with a Charlotte or Georgia State avatar says anything about this, even if it isn't related to their school, that this thread is going to degenerate to the 7th level of hell...

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m201/wearingsa/MEACFansZone/popcorn1.gif

Sure. There are a few other schools I might throw in there as well...

[aust42]

Why is Jackie Sherril credible?

Becaue he is a famous coach, who oh...btw...cheated?

Or because he still has a lawsuit against the NCAA for defamation? Notice, the bulk of his comments deal with how the NCAA won't exist.

I'd call anything he says suspect at best...ax to grind more likely. Not saying it won't happen...just that it shouldn't be believed as credible because Jackie Sherrill says it is.

Credible because he's been involved with college football since 1976, head coach in the Pac-10, SEC, Big East and I assume he know's a lot of people that know a lot more than we do behind the scenes and might be privy to inside information. Just an assumption.

[Dane96]

And how do you know I dont have my own sources.

Dude...not to be a dick, but it's clear you dont understand the disdain Jackie Sherrill has to the NCAA and vice-versa. There is literally a nearly 20 year old open lawsuit by Sherrill against the NCAA.

Sherrill is highly despised in many NCAA Coaching circles...and is a proven liar and cheat. Again, what he is saying is public news...ever since the PAC-Ten tried to go large...or talked about going large. The crux of his comments is the demise of the NCAA...which is a red-herring because the NCAA has little, if any, control over FBS football. It is loosely governed via certification...that's all. So 80 teams breaking away is no huge stretch to the mind.

[aust42]

And how do you know I dont have my own sources.

Dude...not to be a dick, but it's clear you dont understand the disdain Jackie Sherrill has to the NCAA and vice-versa. There is literally a nearly 20 year old open lawsuit by Sherrill against the NCAA.

Sherrill is highly despised in many NCAA Coaching circles...and is a proven liar and cheat. Again, what he is saying is public news...ever since the PAC-Ten tried to go large...or talked about going large. The crux of his comments is the demise of the NCAA...which is a red-herring because the NCAA has little, if any, control over FBS football. It is loosely governed via certification...that's all. So 80 teams breaking away is no huge stretch to the mind.

Calm down Dane96. It appears you have some personal hatred towards Jackie Sherrill. Nonetheless I'm sure he still has a circle of friends and confidents that he get's good information from regarding the topic of realignment. That's all I'm saying! Have a good weekend, I'm leaving work early and it's time for me to start drinking. :)

[superman7515]

Have a good weekend, I'm leaving work early and it's time for me to start drinking. :)

There's your problem right there. Dane maintains his aggressiveness by not allowing small things like work to come between him and his drinking. ;)

[Dane96]

Damns skippy.

Today, I began drinking early! :)

[frozennorth]

I don't really see how anything more than a 12 team league can be feasible. This is just dumb. Hopefully the big 10 stays at 12.

edit: if the big 10 does move: maryland, vtech, pitt, mizzou, syracuse, in that order. UNC if they think that can work. screw notre dame, it's not a big10 style school anyways.

[apaladin]

What's a Bellarmine?

[Cocky]

Do you think the SEC will take App, Ga Southern, Troy and Jax State? That would get them to 16 and they all could use the money to move up.

[TexasTerror]

What's a Bellarmine?

http://www.bellarmine.edu/athletics/images/NewLogo.jpg

[kperk014]

What's a Bellarmine?

A place where they mine bellars??? JK

[BucBisonAtLarge]

Bellermine plays D-I lacrosse already.

[TexasTerror]

So... tons of possibilities... just throwing out how many schools could be impacted and the wide net! There's more you could potentially add too...

To the SEC: Texas A&M, Florida State and/or Clemson
To the Pac-12 (pending numerous actions): Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and/or Texas
To the Big 12: Houston, BYU, TCU, SMU, Louisville and/or Air Force
To the C-USA (pending Big 12 actions): North Texas, Louisiana Tech, South Alabama, Appalachian State, Western Kentucky and/or Middle Tennessee
To the Big East (pending ACC actions): Houston, Villanova, Central Florida, Memphis and/or East Carolina
To the Sun Belt (pending several dominoes): Texas St-San Marcos, UT-San Antonio, Jacksonville State, Charlotte, Georgia State, Appalachian State, Lamar and/or Sam Houston State
To the Southland (pending numerous dominoes): Angelo State, Abilene Christian, Texas A&M-Commerce, UT-Pan American and/or Houston Baptist
To the OVC (pending numerous dominoes or may just happen anyway): North Alabama, Northern Kentucky and/or Bellarmine

[Apphole]

So... tons of possibilities... just throwing out how many schools could be impacted and the wide net! There's more you could potentially add too...

To the SEC: Texas A&M, Florida State and/or Clemson
To the Pac-12 (pending numerous actions): Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and/or Texas
To the Big 12: Houston, BYU, TCU, SMU, Louisville and/or Air Force
To the C-USA (pending Big 12 actions): North Texas, Louisiana Tech, South Alabama, Appalachian State, Western Kentucky and/or Middle Tennessee
To the Big East (pending ACC actions): Houston, Villanova, Central Florida, Memphis and/or East Carolina
To the Sun Belt (pending several dominoes): Texas St-San Marcos, UT-San Antonio, Jacksonville State, Charlotte, Georgia State, Appalachian State, Lamar and/or Sam Houston State
To the Southland (pending numerous dominoes): Angelo State, Abilene Christian, Texas A&M-Commerce, UT-Pan American and/or Houston Baptist
To the OVC (pending numerous dominoes or may just happen anyway): North Alabama, Northern Kentucky and/or Bellarmine

Nice list, but is there any inference I should make about the order you put them in for each conference as far as likelihood? Like do you mean Nova has more of a chance at the big east than UCF and Memphis ect?

[Go...gate]

What's a Bellarmine?

Located outside of Louisville, Kentuucky - founded 1950 - becams a University in 2000. NCAA Division II Basketball champions in 2011. They play Division I lacrosse in the ECAC Lacrosse League

[Go...gate]

So... tons of possibilities... just throwing out how many schools could be impacted and the wide net! There's more you could potentially add too...

To the SEC: Texas A&M, Florida State and/or Clemson
To the Pac-12 (pending numerous actions): Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and/or Texas
To the Big 12: Houston, BYU, TCU, SMU, Louisville and/or Air Force
To the C-USA (pending Big 12 actions): North Texas, Louisiana Tech, South Alabama, Appalachian State, Western Kentucky and/or Middle Tennessee
To the Big East (pending ACC actions): Houston, Villanova, Central Florida, Memphis and/or East Carolina
To the Sun Belt (pending several dominoes): Texas St-San Marcos, UT-San Antonio, Jacksonville State, Charlotte, Georgia State, Appalachian State, Lamar and/or Sam Houston State
To the Southland (pending numerous dominoes): Angelo State, Abilene Christian, Texas A&M-Commerce, UT-Pan American and/or Houston Baptist
To the OVC (pending numerous dominoes or may just happen anyway): North Alabama, Northern Kentucky and/or Bellarmine
To the Patriot League (pending God-knows-what): ??????????????

[Dane96]

Dane has some personal hatred toward everyone with which he disagrees.

Not true.

Actually, I hate no one. I may think about amending that list...

[Go...gate]

Dane's all right.

[TexasTerror]

Nice list, but is there any inference I should make about the order you put them in for each conference as far as likelihood? Like do you mean Nova has more of a chance at the big east than UCF and Memphis ect?

Nope - no specific order. Just threw out all the schools I have seen linked to other conferences at one point or another...

[crossfire07]

So TT, I read a magazine today and the writer spoke about Nova moving up and he brought up some issues I had been wondering. How can they go FBS with less than half of the required attendance numbers in a stadium that only seats 12,500 and no plans or funds to expand it?

[TexasTerror]

So TT, I read a magazine today and the writer spoke about Nova moving up and he brought up some issues I had been wondering. How can they go FBS with less than half of the required attendance numbers in a stadium that only seats 12,500 and no plans or funds to expand it?

They wanted to play at the MLS stadium - but the Big East was not fond of the plan (or at least certain schools were not). That's the hang-up in their efforts to go FBS...

[DFW HOYA]

So TT, I read a magazine today and the writer spoke about Nova moving up and he brought up some issues I had been wondering. How can they go FBS with less than half of the required attendance numbers in a stadium that only seats 12,500 and no plans or funds to expand it?

1. There is no minimum requirement for I-A anymore; however, you have to be invited to join a conference rather than just move up. And Villanova hasn't been "invited" yet.

2. Games would be played in 22,500 seat PPL Park in Chester, but Pitt objected that it's too small. Had they focused on Franklin Field isntead, this would be a completely different argument, and if the "Kansas-Kansas State-Missouri to Big East" scenario ever plays out, Villanova may be the odd team out in a 12/20 scenario.

[citdog]

Dane's all right.


For yankee papist sewer trash or something I might pick up on the bottom of my shoe in the gutter by the Port of Charleston on an August afternoon you're right. He's SWELL.

[superman7515]

So TT, I read a magazine today and the writer spoke about Nova moving up and he brought up some issues I had been wondering. How can they go FBS with less than half of the required attendance numbers in a stadium that only seats 12,500 and no plans or funds to expand it?

Crossfire,

Required reading on the subject:

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?70491-Big-East-Football-discusses-Nova-Option&highlight=villanova+big+east

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?82381-Pitt-to-block-Villanova-s-Big-East-Move&highlight=villanova+big+east

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?83369-Nova-Vote-delayed&highlight=villanova+big+east

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?84802-PPL-Park-Expansion-by-Union-Key-to-Villanova-FBS-Hopes&highlight=villanova+big+east

[Go...gate]

For yankee papist sewer trash or something I might pick up on the bottom of my shoe in the gutter by the Port of Charleston on an August afternoon you're right. He's SWELL.

Cm'on, Citdog, don't hold back! Tell us how you really feel! ; )

[citdog]

Cm'on, Citdog, don't hold back! Tell us how you really feel! ; )

And you didn't believe me about harvard honoring a nazi and 5 of the kaiser's boys but NOT our Men. How I really HATE you ALL! How PROSPEROUS of a NATION we could have been! If you'd have only let us go in peace and govern OURSELVES. 360,000 wasn't NEARLY ENOUGH.

[Skjellyfetti]

360,000 wasn't NEARLY ENOUGH.

nope. it sure wasn't.

http://www.gigliwood.com/mentos/LeeSurrender.jpg

[citdog]

nope. it sure wasn't.

http://www.gigliwood.com/mentos/LeeSurrender.jpg


TRAITOR SCALWAG SCUM please call your Father. You're young and there is still time for you to 'take two Douglas Southall Freeman's and call me in the morning'.

[slostang]

So... tons of possibilities... just throwing out how many schools could be impacted and the wide net! There's more you could potentially add too...

To the SEC: Texas A&M, Florida State and/or Clemson
To the Pac-12 (pending numerous actions): Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and/or Texas
To the Big 12: Houston, BYU, TCU, SMU, Louisville and/or Air Force
To the C-USA (pending Big 12 actions): North Texas, Louisiana Tech, South Alabama, Appalachian State, Western Kentucky and/or Middle Tennessee
To the Big East (pending ACC actions): Houston, Villanova, Central Florida, Memphis and/or East Carolina
To the Sun Belt (pending several dominoes): Texas St-San Marcos, UT-San Antonio, Jacksonville State, Charlotte, Georgia State, Appalachian State, Lamar and/or Sam Houston State
To the Southland (pending numerous dominoes): Angelo State, Abilene Christian, Texas A&M-Commerce, UT-Pan American and/or Houston Baptist
To the OVC (pending numerous dominoes or may just happen anyway): North Alabama, Northern Kentucky and/or Bellarmine

To the SEC: Texas A&M, Florida State,Clemson and Oklahoma.
To the Pac-12 (Pac-16) (pending numerous actions): Texas Tech and Oklahoma State.
Texas goes indy.

[Apphole]

nope. it sure wasn't.

http://www.gigliwood.com/mentos/LeeSurrender.jpg

Yeah, as much as I hate to agree with the ****tydog, the two men at that table are anything but equal. Grant's dumb *** just happened to fall at the end of a list of other incompetent morons until the point came where the northern industrial advantage and naval support overwhelmed the south. Grant lost almost every battle leading up to Appomattox. You must be a transplant. Lee wasn't a slave owner either. The slavery moral high ground Yankees take is bull ****. Sherman cut his pontoon bridges and willingly downed over 100 newly freed slaves as he rapped and burned his way from Atlanta to Savannah. Slavery lasted a hell of alot longer in the United States of America than it did in the CSA. Have some loyalty to the State please. Sweet tea if ****ing delicious. And so is a vinegar based, chopped port BBQ sandwich.

[citdog]

Yeah, as much as I hate to agree with the ****tydog, the two men at that table are anything but equal. Grant's dumb *** just happened to fall at the end of a list of other incompetent morons until the point came where the northern industrial advantage and naval support overwhelmed the south. Grant lost almost every battle leading up to Appomattox. You must be a transplant. Lee wasn't a slave owner either. The slavery moral high ground Yankees take is bull ****. Sherman cut his pontoon bridges and willingly downed over 100 newly freed slaves as he rapped and burned his way from Atlanta to Savannah. Slavery lasted a hell of alot longer in the United States of America than it did in the CSA. Have some loyalty to the State please. Sweet tea if ****ing delicious. And so is a vinegar based, chopped port BBQ sandwich.


I agree with two additions. During the Overland Campaign from the Wilderness to the beginning of the Siege of Petersburg Genl Grant lost more men in Killed, Wounded, and Missing than Genl Lee had SOLDIERS in the Army of Northern Virginia.



MUSTARD BASED

[JaxSinfonian]

Sherman cut his pontoon bridges and willingly downed over 100 newly freed slaves as he rapped and burned his way from Atlanta to Savannah.

I'm pretty sure that didn't happen, but I'm having a lot of fun imagining it. Thanks!

[Catatonic]

So... tons of possibilities... just throwing out how many schools could be impacted and the wide net! There's more you could potentially add too...

To the SEC: Texas A&M, Florida State and/or Clemson
To the Pac-12 (pending numerous actions): Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and/or Texas
To the Big 12: Houston, BYU, TCU, SMU, Louisville and/or Air Force
To the C-USA (pending Big 12 actions): North Texas, Louisiana Tech, South Alabama, Appalachian State, Western Kentucky and/or Middle Tennessee
To the Big East (pending ACC actions): Houston, Villanova, Central Florida, Memphis and/or East Carolina
To the Sun Belt (pending several dominoes): Texas St-San Marcos, UT-San Antonio, Jacksonville State, Charlotte, Georgia State, Appalachian State, Lamar and/or Sam Houston State
To the Southland (pending numerous dominoes): Angelo State, Abilene Christian, Texas A&M-Commerce, UT-Pan American and/or Houston Baptist
To the OVC (pending numerous dominoes or may just happen anyway): North Alabama, Northern Kentucky and/or Bellarmine

To the SEC: Texas A&M, Florida State, Clemson, Oklahoma, Missouri, Baylor, Oklahoma State, TCU (low probability), VA Tech, VA, West VA, NC State, North Carolina. All of these schools have been mentioned on various blogs as possible additions to the SEC....


Since Texas A&M to the SEC looks highly probable at this point, the SEC will almost certainly add at least one more team (14 total, 7 East, 7 West)...and if they can identify two additional teams that add value to the league, the SEC could well become the first (but certainly not the last) 16 team Super Conference.

[whitey]

Lee wasn't a slave owner either.

False. Lee inherited about 60 slaves from his father-in-law. He did eventually free them though, but let's not say he never owned slaves.

[Catatonic]

False. Lee inherited about 60 slaves from his father-in-law. He did eventually free them though, but let's not say he never owned slaves.

Scratching my head puzzling over how a thread about the future of college football got hijacked by a discussion of the long ago past.

[Jacked_Rabbit]

To the SEC: Texas A&M, Florida State, Clemson, Oklahoma, Missouri, Baylor, Oklahoma State, TCU (low probability), VA Tech, VA, West VA, NC State, North Carolina. All of these schools have been mentioned on various blogs as possible additions to the SEC....

... Not to burst your bubble, but I'm pretty sure the SEC won't end up with 30 teams in it.

[hapapp]

ESPN reports in addition to A&M joining the SEC, they are also pursuing Clemson, FSU, and Missouri. Apparently, the Missouri AD said no thanks.

[citdog]

False. Lee inherited about 60 slaves from his father-in-law. He did eventually free them though, but let's not say he never owned slaves.


I believe he was speaking of the irony that at the beginning of the contest Genl Lee held no servants while the former Ms. Dent, then Mrs. U.S. Grant, did.

[Catatonic]

... Not to burst your bubble, but I'm pretty sure the SEC won't end up with 30 teams in it.


All I did was put together a cumulative list of schools mentioned by various bloggers as potential members or the SEC....I never imagined they would grow to 30 teams. I think if they add Texas A&M, a second school will be named. And they could eventually add enough teams to create a 16 or 20 team "Super Conference," but I doubt that happens now.

[Catatonic]

ESPN reports in addition to A&M joining the SEC, they are also pursuing Clemson, FSU, and Missouri. Apparently, the Missouri AD said no thanks.

I kind of doubt that the SEC ever approached Missouri. They did everything but beg the BIG for membership last year and were turned down flat. According to Slive of the SEC, TAMU called the SEC and admitted they made a big mistake last year by remaining in the Big 12....which has led to where we are today.

[dgtw]

I think Missouri got on the list because they are in a state with no other SEC schools, unlike FSU or Clemson,

[Catatonic]

I think Missouri got on the list because they are in a state with no other SEC schools, unlike FSU or Clemson,

Pretty sure that if the SEC wants another Big 12 school OU will be first on their list, if they could be pried loose from OSU.....and whatever their infatuation with the Horns is about.

[813Jag]

Scratching my head puzzling over how a thread about the future of college football got hijacked by a discussion of the long ago past.

that's a Citdog specialty. People always try to challenge him.

[GAD]

The local LSU talk radio folks are saying, Texas A&M will announce that they will enter the SEC on Monday. Virginia Tech to get the DC market, and Oklahoma to get the mid-west market, Mizzou for the St. Louis market, are most likely choices to get the call. Clemson and Florida state are possible but they are saying that they already have those markets

[NoCoDanny]

If it's all about markets then Rutgers to the SEC right?

[polsongrizz]

fbs football, who gives a rats A S S???

[crossfire07]

I sure as hell don't! That is why I come to a FCS board. They have a place here for FBS discussions so let them haul their ***! :)

[citdog]

that's a Citdog specialty. People always try to challenge him.

And I give them a taste of the cold steel!

[hapapp]

FWIW, Va Tech officials have said they are not interested in leaving the ACC.

[GSU Eagle]

Athletic directors of BIG 12 teams must be really scrambling right now as the conference is about to be gobbled up by other conferences.

[citdog]

You don't get it, do you? First off, pay attention to the title of the thread which specifies DIVISION 1 FOOTBALL, which encompasses both the FBS and FCS subdivisions. What is going on in the FBS with Texas A&M is going to affect many conferences--moreso in the FBS, but also in the FCS. I guarantee it.

Soothsaying is from the devil and is forbidden by heavenly father.

[TheRevSFA]

This just in: After being rejected for statehood, Guam, American Samoa, and Puerto Rico are instead joining the SEC. On a side note, the Federated States of Micronesia will now become the newest memeber of the WAC, being a travel partner with Seattle

[Go...gate]

And you didn't believe me about Harvard honoring a nazi and 5 of the kaiser's boys but NOT our Men. How I really HATE you ALL! How PROSPEROUS of a NATION we could have been! If you'd have only let us go in peace and govern OURSELVES. 360,000 wasn't NEARLY ENOUGH.

On the contrary - I was as surprised as you were.

[frozennorth]

Slive was on the record saying they could get to 16 schools in 15 minutes. I think this is where his bluff gets called. Noone is leaving the big10, noone is leaving the acc, you aren't going to seperate texas/oklahoma/oklahoma state (and from the sound of it, they aren't interested), and mizzou isn't southern, and would rather be in the big10.

I guess they could raid the big east or sun belt.

[Saint3333]

I disagree, Clemson and FSU would go to the SEC tomorrow. The problem is SC and UF don't want them and Slive would like a 12-0 vote on new members.

[Catatonic]

Atlanta Journal Constitution update on the Sunday meeting of SEC Presidents. Some very interesting insights re how the process unfolded with Texas A&M and who might receive a bid to become the 14th member.
Louisville might present the fewest obstacles, according to their source. Should know more later today...

http://www.ajc.com/sports/uga/big-12-tries-to-1106816.html

[superman7515]

A lot of talk that the Big 12 will invite Air Force and BYU. If Air Force accepts the invitation, thereby giving them a recruiting edge by theoretically having the ability to play for a BCS Championship, do Army & Navy finally break down and join the Big East to stay on level footing in national recruiting? I'd hope that John McHugh and Ray Mabus wouldn't allow them to be seen as a step down nationally.

[Smitty]

Notre dame finally being the only independent breaks down and joins the big east?

[Saint3333]

Notre dame finally being the only independent breaks down and joins the big east?

Never going to happen. They'd join the Big Ten all sports first and until they no longer have a TV contract that isn't happening either.

[Pard4Life]

You don't get it, do you? First off, pay attention to the title of the thread which specifies DIVISION 1 FOOTBALL, which encompasses both the FBS and FCS subdivisions. What is going on in the FBS with Texas A&M is going to affect many conferences--moreso in the FBS, but also in the FCS. I guarantee it.

I tried this line of reasoning with them when this whole thing started two years and it didn't work. Nobody reads the other forums with regularity... it's perfectu legit because FCS conferences will change.

[dgtw]

I wonder if the Sun Belt will hold to its policy of not inviting FCS teams if they lose members once the dominos start to fall.

[TexasTerror]

I wonder if the Sun Belt will hold to its policy of not inviting FCS teams if they lose members once the dominos start to fall.

The Sun Belt may be in a position to pillage from the WAC if that league were to lose La Tech and/or Utah State

[ursus arctos horribilis]

I tried this line of reasoning with them when this whole thing started two years and it didn't work. Nobody reads the other forums with regularity... it's perfectu legit because FCS conferences will change.

Pard, I don't disagree that it has some affect. It surely does but it is primarily (at this point) about FBS and the fallout will come later and when it does those threads involving FCS teams will surely have their place on the FCSD board as many App St./Umass/Montana topics have already shown.

This should be started in other sports because of that. I don't mind the topics taking an turn if the members twist it in that direction but this just flat out starts as primarily FBS stuff so it should probably be in the other section.

Sorry if that is disappointing to anyone but it's being moved there.