Jax State to test waters for partnership with beer companies

[JSU02]

http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/14360297/article-Trying-the-high-life--Seeking-revenue--JSU-to-test-waters-for-partnership-with-beer-companies?instance=breakingnews

[pike51]

How? How exactly did they beat GSU to this? SMH.

[JSU02]

Our stadium expansion required we look for more money to help pay for it?

[eiu1999]

http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/14360297/article-Trying-the-high-life--Seeking-revenue--JSU-to-test-waters-for-partnership-with-beer-companies?instance=breakingnews

Lucky #$#@*&@#@

[biggie]

Assume stadium is off campus. Still seems like its illegal given NCAA rules.

[JSU02]

No, its very much on campus. In fact the bottom 4 floors of the stadium tower is a dorm. I am unaware of any NCAA rules that forbid beer at on campus regular season games.

[TTUEagles]

Isn't it usually up to individual states regarding alcohol on public university campuses?

[JSU02]

Isn't it usually up to individual states regarding alcohol on public university campuses?

Conferences too...

[Twentysix]

Its up to the states and the university presidents.

More so the university presidents. A stadium being on campus doesn't make any difference..... Not all campus's are dry campus's(See Creighton University). And even the ones that are could choose to sell beer at football games if they so choose.



"And, you can always look forward to getting to drink on campus after your 21st birthday—Creighton is a wet campus, and beer gardens are held at games, and receptions with deans and the president occasionally involve a booze cart."
or you could read this.

http://www.dailynebraskan.com/a-e/big-10-wet-campuses-party-hard-study-harder-1.2434425


If Nebraska considers itself worthy of "Public Ivy" status along with Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State and Minnesota, all of which are wet campuses, and make the list of top party schools in the country year after year, then there should be no hesitation following suit with our neighbors up north.

[SU DOG]

Not an NCAA rule at events that aren't considered NCAA functions. Example: A regular season game would be left up to the school, but a playoff game at that same stadium would be under an NCAA ban against the sale or advertising of anything alcoholic. JSU, however, will face huge opposition from state and probably local government IMO, if they pursue this. I may be wrong, but I don't believe it will happen.

[superman7515]

NCAA only forbids alcohol at NCAA postseason events.


Championship Policy -

•The NCAA has for years banned sales and venue advertising of all alcohol at its 88 championships. Host sites are required to cover up any ads for alcoholic drinks.
•The NCAA does not control the regular season in any sport, nor does it run the postseason for the Division I Football Bowl Subdivision. Individual schools and conferences oversee the regular season, including game operations, broadcasting and advertising. The postseason for Division I Football Bowl Subdivision is controlled by the Bowl Championship Series and individual bowl committees.


Most schools do not allow it if for no other reason than the Verni case against Aramark. Guy has too much to drink at a New York Giants game, hits a girl on the way home and causes her to be paralyzed, jury awards the family $105 million dollars against the stadium vendor, long story short they end up settling out of court and were successful in separate suits and settlements against the driver, Aramark (the vendor), the New York Giants, and the NFL.

[Twentysix]

What constitutes an NCAA post season event, just the championship game or all the playoff games that lead up to it aswell?

The summit league basketball tournament (Autobid decider) definetly sells beer, its a great place to get wasted!

[superman7515]

The FCS playoffs would count, conference basketball tournament wouldn't.

[JSU02]

If this is successful, the next step is for the club level to be turned into a casino and any unsold skyboxes to be be outfitted with vibrating beds, poles, and wet bars to be rented out on an hourly basis before, during, and after games. The school is also changing its name to the University of Jax Vegas. ;)

[crossfire07]

A local beer company here supports McNeese in their own way that does not draw attention or break any rules. Who else has had a beer truck from their home town show up at a NC game :)

[bojeta]

Isn't it usually up to individual states regarding alcohol on public university campuses?

In California, it's up to the individual universities within the system. I understand this caused quite a rift between John Madden and Cal Poly. He wanted to donate a sizable amount of money toward the stadium expansion, but insisted they sell beer at the games. The university refused and Madden hasn't been seen around Poly for years. I'm gonna have to research the validity of this story, but it's what was going around the Mustang forum a while back.

[Redbirdz]

South Alabama already does it and Troy about to.

[Cocky]

Not an NCAA rule at events that aren't considered NCAA functions. Example: A regular season game would be left up to the school, but a playoff game at that same stadium would be under an NCAA ban against the sale or advertising of anything alcoholic. JSU, however, will face huge opposition from state and probably local government IMO, if they pursue this. I may be wrong, but I don't believe it will happen.
Which wet dry vote loss during the last election cycle? Not many. I feel the public wants individual rights to be upheld or they would move to China. How many only eat at dry restrauants? Not many.

[crossfire07]

I will quit going to college games and find something else to do on a saturday night with my grandkids if liquor is being sold at a college football game. It will only bring out the worst in people. If a school gets that desperate for cash then they should just shut the doors or lower their ambitions. Sure people bring it in anyways but I'd rather have it be a trickle than a river.

[The Eagle's Cliff]

I'd be all for the revenue this would bring to any school, but drunk people at sporting events is already a problem without allowing them to maintain or get more drunk. While the smaller schools like all of us need the money, I think we'd jeopardize whatever "family atmosphere" we've cultivated over the years.

[superman7515]

I'd be all for the revenue this would bring to any school, but drunk people at sporting events is already a problem without allowing them to maintain or get more drunk. While the smaller schools like all of us need the money, I think we'd jeopardize whatever "family atmosphere" we've cultivated over the years.

The city of Vancouver disagrees.

http://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/2011/06/2011-vancouver-riot-stanley-cup-finals.jpg

What's more family friendly than a bonfire?

[Mountaineer]

I'd be all for the revenue this would bring to any school, but drunk people at sporting events is already a problem without allowing them to maintain or get more drunk.

Agreed. I'm already surrounded by enough drunks in the stands at ASU games.

[Cocky]

Ive been around more drunks at dry college stadiums than the wet pro stadiums. Club level and suite level seats can drink now so only adding on not starting.

[dgtw]

I imagine people get drunker when they have to sneak stuff in because they are bringing a flask full of Jack Daniel and feel compelled to drink it all. If all you can buy is beer, you probably won't drink as much, especially if they charge the going price for a beer at most stadiums. How can you afford to get rip roaring drunk when beer is $6 each?

Jefferson's might lobby against this, however.

[SU DOG]

Jon Solomon in today's B'ham News (article actually about UNA) reported some surprising figures. The AVERAGE FCS school for the year 2009-10 received $274,000 in donations. JSU for the same year received only $192,560. I don't know where he got these figures, nor do I really care what JSU decides to do, but I was very surprised at this disparity.

[JSU02]

Jon Solomon in today's B'ham News (article actually about UNA) reported some surprising figures. The AVERAGE FCS school for the year 2009-10 received $274,000 in donations. JSU for the same year received only $192,560. I don't know where he got these figures, nor do I really care what JSU decides to do, but I was very surprised at this disparity.

I suspect donations may have been down because people were holding onto money until the 2010-2011 year when stadium club tickets & suites went on sale.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

I'm happy with anything that helps keep the family atmosphere away from college football games. Good for you guys and I hope it all goes through.

College football games are primarily an adult atmosphere and always have been. There is drinking, partying, & good times at Montana with the tailgating and when some asshole shows up with his kids and thinks it should all be sanitized for the kids I laugh in their face. It ain't for your kids. If you want something for your kids take em' to the carnival but don't act like a football game has to be sanitized down to their level.

Beer is served at every baseball game I've ever been to and I've never seen a big outcry about people taking their kids to a baseball game.

The kids won't be able to go the games anymore...geez that's a real heart breaker that your little **** running around won't be there.

[kperk014]

I'm happy with anything that helps keep the family atmosphere away from college football games. Good for you guys and I hope it all goes through.

College football games are primarily an adult atmosphere and always have been. There is drinking, partying, & good times at Montana with the tailgating and when some asshole shows up with his kids and thinks it should all be sanitized for the kids I laugh in their face. It ain't for your kids. If you want something for your kids take em' to the carnival but don't act like a football game has to be sanitized down to their level.

Beer is served at every baseball game I've ever been to and I've never seen a big outcry about people taking their kids to a baseball game.

The kids won't be able to go the games anymore...geez that's a real heart breaker that your little **** running around won't be there.

You can't to go too far overboard with that way of thinking. If you don't get those kids when they are young, you won't have them as paying fans in the future. That's what UNA has been trying to do to combat Alabama and Auburn. Maybe drinking sections and non-drinking sections.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

You can't to go too far overboard with that way of thinking. If you don't get those kids when they are young, you won't have them as paying fans in the future. That's what UNA has been trying to do to combat Alabama and Auburn. Maybe drinking sections and non-drinking sections.

You know that's the common line of thinking and I'm not sure I agree with it. When I was a kid and we'd be outside ANY primarily adult event all I wished was that I was old enough to be in that environment. Seeing the beautifl ladies walking by as me and friends stood outside the chain link of a game and all the fun the adults were having was enough to make me wish away my childhood.

When we did get the chance to go in to a game it was a cherished event...and most certainly not one where us kids would have for one instant thought that things should be changed for us OR that we were the center of the universe that adults should revolve around. To me, that would have taken away from the experience.

Of course then we'd get on our bikes and ride home or do whatever which may be a big part of the difference in today's world. Kids can't be out of the parents site for 5 minutes so now everything has to be a damn family event even if it's an adult event.

There is no way I'll believe that just because a kid doesnt' get to or shouldn't be at those games that it would stop them from being a fan when they hit high school or college but I don't even have a problem with kids being there. I have a problem with adults acting like it should be all "child friendly" instead of what it actually is and always has been.

[dgtw]

FCS games seem to be more family oriented than big FBS games, at least to me. A game at Jax St. is going to be more laid back than one at Beyant Denny.

[TTUEagles]

Any SEC/Big East game I've ever been to, looks like a mini-bottle liquor store in the bathrooms anyway.
I see and take little kids to Titans and Predators all of the time where alcohol is readily available and there are plenty of either 1) waaaay too drunk people 2) people who drink responsibly and can handle it (the majority, IMO).

[kperk014]

You know that's the common line of thinking and I'm not sure I agree with it. When I was a kid and we'd be outside ANY primarily adult event all I wished was that I was old enough to be in that environment. Seeing the beautifl ladies walking by as me and friends stood outside the chain link of a game and all the fun the adults were having was enough to make me wish away my childhood.

When we did get the chance to go in to a game it was a cherished event...and most certainly not one where us kids would have for one instant thought that things should be changed for us OR that we were the center of the universe that adults should revolve around. To me, that would have taken away from the experience.

Of course then we'd get on our bikes and ride home or do whatever which may be a big part of the difference in today's world. Kids can't be out of the parents site for 5 minutes so now everything has to be a damn family event even if it's an adult event.

There is no way I'll believe that just because a kid doesnt' get to or shouldn't be at those games that it would stop them from being a fan when they hit high school or college but I don't even have a problem with kids being there. I have a problem with adults acting like it should be all "child friendly" instead of what it actually is and always has been.

I think I saw you're from Montana. You have a monopoly there. In Alabama we have to battle to get a decent share of the attention from the 130,000 residents of the Shoals. It has increased quite well over the years and I credit a lot of that to the Bleacher Creatures of the early 90s and similar groups since. Both my sons grew up in that and they are UNA first, not Bama or Auburn. I grew up going to UNA games in all sports and that's my team. People I grew up with didn't and a lot of them would pull for Bama if UNA played them. I HATE that. The more kids we can indoctrinate to the purple and gold the better.

[The Eagle's Cliff]

I'm happy with anything that helps keep the family atmosphere away from college football games. Good for you guys and I hope it all goes through.

College football games are primarily an adult atmosphere and always have been. There is drinking, partying, & good times at Montana with the tailgating and when some asshole shows up with his kids and thinks it should all be sanitized for the kids I laugh in their face. It ain't for your kids. If you want something for your kids take em' to the carnival but don't act like a football game has to be sanitized down to their level.

Beer is served at every baseball game I've ever been to and I've never seen a big outcry about people taking their kids to a baseball game.

The kids won't be able to go the games anymore...geez that's a real heart breaker that your little **** running around won't be there.

I don't personally have a problem with alcohol being present at any event. The fact is that when large crowds and alcohol mix, there will be trouble from some. That means hiring proper security as well as taking on extra legal liability.

I don't know much about Montana, but the Baptists have lots of power in small Southern towns. They're about to have a fit now, because the State of Georgia has authorized counties to vote on whether to allow Sunday sales. Bulloch County (Statesboro) doesn't allow the sale of liquor except by-the-drink in a restaurant. I see these laws as ridiculous, but I'd be in the minority here. Calhoun County (Jacksonville) Alabama is a pretty WASPy place and I wonder about the popularity of this idea with the locals.

[Redbirdz]

This probably has more to do with adveritising dollars and corporate contributions than drinking.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

I don't personally have a problem with alcohol being present at any event. The fact is that when large crowds and alcohol mix, there will be trouble from some. That means hiring proper security as well as taking on extra legal liability.

I don't know much about Montana, but the Baptists have lots of power in small Southern towns. They're about to have a fit now, because the State of Georgia has authorized counties to vote on whether to allow Sunday sales. Bulloch County (Statesboro) doesn't allow the sale of liquor except by-the-drink in a restaurant. I see these laws as ridiculous, but I'd be in the minority here. Calhoun County (Jacksonville) Alabama is a pretty WASPy place and I wonder about the popularity of this idea with the locals.

I can't for the life of me see why the religious cults think that stuff works but it does not fly around these parts. They can have their religion and do as they please but they have zero traction for that kind of BS here...luckily.

And on the first point about large crowds and alcohol...you're dead on. Part of the excitement is the "less than in complete control" environment. Kids are less than 5% of the crowd at a game usually and that in itself makes it an adult event so basing anything on the "is it OK for the kids" thing just gives me a chuckle.

You (not you specifically Eag) may decide that it's not for the kids. Good. Don't go, but enough of the trying to take away otehr adults fun because of the kids...I don't care about your kids.

[Skjellyfetti]

people that can't handle their alcohol should be punished for being dbags in the crowd.

everyone else should be allowed to buy $5 beers if they so desire.

i wish app would have beer sales... and until then i'll be jealouse of Jax State and any other team that gets beer sales in the stadium... while sneaking a flask of bourbon in...

[ursus arctos horribilis]

people that can't handle their alcohol should be punished for being dbags in the crowd.

everyone else should be allowed to buy $5 beers if they so desire.

i wish app would have beer sales... and until then i'll be jealouse of Jax State and any other team that gets beer sales in the stadium... while sneaking a flask of bourbon in...

Agreed, just in case I left my feeling on that out...if you can't handle your party then you should be extricated.

[dgtw]

It is possible to drink and have a good time without acting like a complete jerk. You don't have to have kids with you to not want to be around a drunk shouting profanities or acting like an idiot the whole game.


I had been under the impression alcohol sales were banned at all NCAA games. A story in the local paper said the state alcohol control board would have to approve selling beer at Jax St. games.

I drink and I go to Jax St. games. I have no huge problem with beer being sold at the games. I doubt I'll drink a lot at the games, for several reasons.

1. The cost
2. I don't like standing around drinking beer in cold weather.
3. I have an hour and a half drive home afterwards.

[JSU02]

You can't to go too far overboard with that way of thinking. If you don't get those kids when they are young, you won't have them as paying fans in the future. That's what UNA has been trying to do to combat Alabama and Auburn. Maybe drinking sections and non-drinking sections.

The have been moving towards making the end zone seats a "family fun section" with low priced family ticket packages. I think they should look into banning beer from that area.

[kperk014]

This probably has more to do with adveritising dollars and corporate contributions than drinking.

I think you are right because I've never been to a college game that allowed legal drinking. I think a blind eye is turned to it as long as people are buying tickets.

[MoreheadEagle]

I go to University of Cincinnati football games and Xavier and UC basketball games all of the time. There's beer sales at all UC games and I've never had a problem. I've had bigger problems with drunks at the "dry" University of Kentucky games I've been to. I say go for Jax State.

[Apphole]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwQZ7hxps1c

Appalachian State's new fermentation sciences major and on campus brewery

[ursus arctos horribilis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwQZ7hxps1c

Appalachian State's new fermentation sciences major and on campus brewery

That's as cool as it gets except that you need to learn how to use the video option Appholio.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwQZ7hxps1c

[Apphole]

Please convert it if you don't mind. I know you mods can do that stuff like when the headlinesman changes my words without the curtesy of a PM. And for a word that isn't bleeped out in tv that I censored anyway. What a tool.

[crossfire07]

And on the first point about large crowds and alcohol...you're dead on. Part of the excitement is the "less than in complete control" environment. Kids are less than 5% of the crowd at a game usually and that in itself makes it an adult event so basing anything on the "is it OK for the kids" thing just gives me a chuckle.

You (not you specifically Eag) may decide that it's not for the kids. Good. Don't go, but enough of the trying to take away otehr adults fun because of the kids...I don't care about your kids.

We care about what kids are subjected to in our stadium and there is not ANY tolerance for ADULTS that can't behave better than the kids sitting in the same section. Nobody has a right to go to a PUBLIC event and act any way they want.Especially in front of kids.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

We care about what kids are subjected to in our stadium and there is not ANY tolerance for ADULTS that can't behave better than the kids sitting in the same section. Nobody has a right to go to a PUBLIC event and act any way they want.Especially in front of kids.

They do have a right to act any way that is within the boundaries of the legal system whether you want to believe that or not. It's a young adult and adult environment. You can sanitize all you want to at your stadium and dumb it down "for the children" but if you have trouble getting adults to show up then don't question why.

It's an adult oriented environment, it always has been.

[bojeta]

Agreed. I'm already surrounded by enough drunks in the stands at ASU games.

I agree, but I'm not sure if the "no alcohol" approach is the right answer. For example, at Cal Poly we have a few drunks at every game to be sure; people that load up before the game because they know they can't drink at the game. I don't have an answer here, just questions. If you made beer available, would people be on a more even keel? Would they load up anyway and then have a few more? Are they sneaking in hard liquor because they can't buy beer at the game? I know that, for myself, $5 beers are just too much for me to ever have more than one at a game.

[bojeta]

This whole discussion got me to thinking.... Could Chico State bring back football if they partnered with Sierra Nevada Brewing Co.?? The New Clairvaux Monks were successful partnering with them; and an extremely fine Belgian Ale (Ovila Dubbel) was developed in the process. Mmmmm... gonna be at the Sierra Nevada Brewery this weekend!! :)

[eiu1999]

I agree, but I'm not sure if the "no alcohol" approach is the right answer. For example, at Cal Poly we have a few drunks at every game to be sure; people that load up before the game because they know they can't drink at the game. I don't have an answer here, just questions. If you made beer available, would people be on a more even keel? Would they load up anyway and then have a few more? Are they sneaking in hard liquor because they can't buy beer at the game? I know that, for myself, $5 beers are just too much for me to ever have more than one at a game.

Of course they would load up even more, when you're talking about college kids in particular.