OL FU's Best of Playoffs 2010

[Mountaineer]

Yeah, so I heard the call in the other thread and spent a couple of hours reworking the spreadsheet last night. xrotatehx I think this is the 4th or 5th year I've been in charge of the information originally completed by OL FU.

It's not a perfect representation, but we think it gives a pretty clear indication of the top teams in the subdivision based on how well they do in the playoffs.

The numbers of teams, rounds and bye weeks skew the numbers a bit, but I tried to keep the amount of points consistent throughout.

A first round game is worth 5 points.
A second round game is worth 10 points.
A quarterfinal game is worth 15 points.
A semifinal game is worth 20 points.
A championship game is worth 25 points.
Winning the championship game is worth an additional 25 points.

The totals that could be earned throughout the years are as follows:

1978 - 1980: Semis/Finals (4 Teams) - 70 Points
1981 - Quarters/Semis/Finals (8 Teams) - 85 Points
1982 - 1985: First/Quarters/Semis/Finals (12 Teams) - 95 Points
1986 - 2009: First/Quarters/Semis/Finals (16 Teams) - 95 Points
2010 - Present: First/Second/Quarters/Semis/Finals (20 Teams) - 100 Points

A total of 64 current FCS teams have participated in the playoffs. There are 21 former playoff teams (including Texas State and UMass this year) from either moving up or the discontinuation of the football program.

I have 9 worksheets worth of data to post so I'd appreciate if comments are held until I have everything done. :)

[Mountaineer]

Playoff Points All-Time


Georgia Southern 970
Montana 790
Appalachian State 635
Youngstown State 620
Delaware 590
Eastern Kentucky 555
Furman 505
Northern Iowa 475
McNeese State 340
Villanova 280
Richmond 260
Eastern Washington 250
Southern Illinois 245
James Madison 240
William & Mary 195
Stephen F. Austin 190
New Hampshire 185
Florida A&M 180
Eastern Illinois 175
Lehigh 175
Western Illinois 175
Colgate 155
Montana State 155
Jackson State 135
Northwestern State 110
Wofford 110
Tennessee State 105
Idaho State 95
Sam Houston State 90
Rhode Island 85
South Carolina State 85
Illinois State 80
Maine 80
Murray State 75
Weber State 70
Western Carolina 70
North Carolina A&T 55
Northern Arizona 55
Samford 55
Hampton 50
Indiana State 50
Alcorn State 45
Citadel 45
Nicholls State 45
Grambling State 40
Bethune-Cookman 35
Cal Poly 35
Fordham 35
Holy Cross 35
Jacksonville State 35
Missouri State 35
Lafayette 30
North Dakota State 30
Coastal Carolina 15
Southeast Missouri State 15
Chattanooga 10
Delaware State 10
Elon 10
Howard 10
Mississippi Valley State 10
Portland State 10
South Dakota State 10
UT Martin 10
Robert Morris 5

[Mountaineer]

Playoff Points Last 20 Years


Montana 725
Youngstown State 575
Appalachian State 570
Georgia Southern 495
Delaware 470
Northern Iowa 375
McNeese State 340
Villanova 270
James Madison 230
Eastern Washington 225
Richmond 225
Furman 205
New Hampshire 185
Western Illinois 165
Southern Illinois 150
William & Mary 150
Eastern Kentucky 130
Colgate 120
Florida A&M 110
Lehigh 110
Wofford 110
Stephen F. Austin 95
Eastern Illinois 90
Northwestern State 85
Illinois State 80
Sam Houston State 80
Maine 60
Montana State 60
Northern Arizona 55
Samford 55
Hampton 50
Murray State 45
North Carolina A&T 45
Weber State 45
Bethune-Cookman 35
Cal Poly 35
Fordham 35
Jacksonville State 35
Jackson State 30
Lafayette 30
North Dakota State 30
Citadel 25
South Carolina State 25
Alcorn State 20
Nicholls State 20
Tennessee State 20
Coastal Carolina 15
Southeast Missouri State 15
Delaware State 10
Elon 10
Holy Cross 10
Howard 10
Portland State 10
South Dakota State 10
UT Martin 10
Robert Morris 5
Chattanooga 0
Grambling State 0
Idaho State 0
Indiana State 0
Mississippi Valley State 0
Missouri State 0
Rhode Island 0
Western Carolina 0

[Mountaineer]

Playoff Points Last 15 Years


Montana 575
Appalachian State 500
Georgia Southern 445
Delaware 365
Northern Iowa 260
Villanova 250
Richmond 225
Youngstown State 220
Eastern Washington 215
McNeese State 210
Furman 205
James Madison 170
New Hampshire 165
Western Illinois 155
Southern Illinois 150
William & Mary 140
Colgate 120
Florida A&M 110
Lehigh 110
Wofford 110
Northwestern State 85
Eastern Illinois 80
Illinois State 80
Sam Houston State 70
Maine 60
Montana State 60
Northern Arizona 55
Hampton 50
Stephen F. Austin 40
Bethune-Cookman 35
Cal Poly 35
Fordham 35
Jacksonville State 35
Murray State 35
North Carolina A&T 35
Weber State 35
Eastern Kentucky 30
Lafayette 30
North Dakota State 30
South Carolina State 25
Jackson State 20
Nicholls State 20
Tennessee State 20
Coastal Carolina 15
Southeast Missouri State 15
Delaware State 10
Elon 10
Holy Cross 10
Portland State 10
South Dakota State 10
UT Martin 10
Robert Morris 5
Alcorn State 0
Chattanooga 0
Citadel 0
Grambling State 0
Howard 0
Idaho State 0
Indiana State 0
Mississippi Valley State 0
Missouri State 0
Rhode Island 0
Samford 0
Western Carolina 0

[Mountaineer]

Playoff Points Last 10 Years


Appalachian State 420
Montana 405
Delaware 265
Northern Iowa 215
Villanova 215
Richmond 190
Eastern Washington 170
New Hampshire 165
Furman 160
Georgia Southern 160
James Madison 160
Southern Illinois 150
McNeese State 120
William & Mary 115
Wofford 110
Colgate 90
Sam Houston State 70
Western Illinois 65
Eastern Illinois 60
Maine 60
Montana State 60
Lehigh 50
Youngstown State 45
Stephen F. Austin 40
Bethune-Cookman 35
Cal Poly 35
Fordham 35
Jacksonville State 35
Northern Arizona 35
Weber State 35
Hampton 30
Lafayette 30
North Dakota State 30
Northwestern State 30
Illinois State 25
South Carolina State 25
Eastern Kentucky 20
Coastal Carolina 15
Southeast Missouri State 15
Delaware State 10
Elon 10
Florida A&M 10
Holy Cross 10
Murray State 10
Nicholls State 10
North Carolina A&T 10
South Dakota State 10
UT Martin 10
Robert Morris 5
Alcorn State 0
Chattanooga 0
Citadel 0
Grambling State 0
Howard 0
Idaho State 0
Indiana State 0
Jackson State 0
Mississippi Valley State 0
Missouri State 0
Portland State 0
Rhode Island 0
Samford 0
Tennessee State 0
Western Carolina 0

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Awesome work to you & FU as always Mounty.

[Mountaineer]

Playoff Points Last 5 Years


Appalachian State 290
Montana 195
Villanova 170
Richmond 165
Delaware 145
Eastern Washington 135
New Hampshire 115
Southern Illinois 105
Northern Iowa 75
James Madison 65
Wofford 65
William & Mary 60
Georgia Southern 50
Youngstown State 45
Montana State 40
Stephen F. Austin 40
Weber State 35
Eastern Illinois 30
McNeese State 30
North Dakota State 30
Illinois State 25
South Carolina State 25
Eastern Kentucky 20
Bethune-Cookman 15
Coastal Carolina 15
Jacksonville State 15
Lehigh 15
Southeast Missouri State 15
Western Illinois 15
Cal Poly 10
Colgate 10
Delaware State 10
Elon 10
Fordham 10
Furman 10
Hampton 10
Holy Cross 10
Lafayette 10
Maine 10
South Dakota State 10
UT Martin 10
Robert Morris 5
Alcorn State 0
Chattanooga 0
Citadel 0
Florida A&M 0
Grambling State 0
Howard 0
Idaho State 0
Indiana State 0
Jackson State 0
Mississippi Valley State 0
Missouri State 0
Murray State 0
Nicholls State 0
North Carolina A&T 0
Northern Arizona 0
Northwestern State 0
Portland State 0
Rhode Island 0
Sam Houston State 0
Samford 0
Tennessee State 0
Western Carolina 0

[Mountaineer]

Playoff Points First 10 Years


Eastern Kentucky 360
Georgia Southern 215
Furman 135
Delaware 110
Idaho State 95
Montana State 95
Southern Illinois 95
Northern Iowa 90
Rhode Island 85
Tennessee State 85
Jackson State 75
Florida A&M 70
Western Carolina 70
Lehigh 65
Eastern Illinois 60
South Carolina State 60
Appalachian State 55
Indiana State 50
Colgate 35
Richmond 35
Grambling State 30
Murray State 30
Alcorn State 25
Eastern Washington 25
Holy Cross 25
Nicholls State 25
Weber State 25
Chattanooga 10
James Madison 10
Maine 10
Mississippi Valley State 10
Montana 10
North Carolina A&T 10
Sam Houston State 10
William & Mary 10
Youngstown State 10
Bethune-Cookman 0
Cal Poly 0
Citadel 0
Coastal Carolina 0
Delaware State 0
Elon 0
Fordham 0
Hampton 0
Howard 0
Illinois State 0
Jacksonville State 0
Lafayette 0
McNeese State 0
Missouri State 0
New Hampshire 0
North Dakota State 0
Northern Arizona 0
Northwestern State 0
Portland State 0
Robert Morris 0
Samford 0
South Dakota State 0
Southeast Missouri State 0
Stephen F. Austin 0
UT Martin 0
Villanova 0
Western Illinois 0
Wofford 0

[AppAlum2003]

Everytime Mountaineer publishes this stuff I think about the people that say "ASU has just been good the last couple of years."

Thanks for the hard work!

[Mountaineer]

All Time Playoff Appearances


Montana 20
Eastern Kentucky 19
Appalachian State 18
Georgia Southern 17
Delaware 15
Furman 15
Northern Iowa 15
McNeese State 14
Eastern Illinois 13
Jackson State 12
Youngstown State 11
James Madison 9
New Hampshire 9
Villanova 9
Western Illinois 9
William & Mary 9
Colgate 8
Eastern Washington 8
Lehigh 8
Richmond 8
Southern Illinois 8
Florida A&M 7
Northwestern State 6
Hampton 5
Maine 5
Montana State 5
Murray State 5
South Carolina State 5
Stephen F. Austin 5
North Carolina A&T 4
Sam Houston State 4
Weber State 4
Wofford 4
Alcorn State 3
Bethune-Cookman 3
Citadel 3
Grambling State 3
Illinois State 3
Jacksonville State 3
Lafayette 3
Nicholls State 3
Northern Arizona 3
Rhode Island 3
Tennessee State 3
Cal Poly 2
Coastal Carolina 2
Fordham 2
Holy Cross 2
Idaho State 2
Indiana State 2
Missouri State 2
Samford 2
Chattanooga 1
Delaware State 1
Elon 1
Howard 1
Mississippi Valley State 1
North Dakota State 1
Portland State 1
Robert Morris 1
South Dakota State 1
Southeast Missouri State 1
UT Martin 1
Western Carolina 1

[Mountaineer]

National Championships and Total Championship Game Appearances

Georgia Southern 6 8
Youngstown State 4 6
Appalachian State 3 3
Eastern Kentucky 2 4
Montana 2 7
Delaware 1 4
Eastern Washington 1 1
Florida A&M 1 1
Furman 1 3
Idaho State 1 1
James Madison 1 1
Montana State 1 1
Richmond 1 1
Southern Illinois 1 1
Villanova 1 1

[Mountaineer]

Former FCS Members and Playoff Points

Marshall 540
UMass 290
Nevada 270
Boise State 230
Western Kentucky 225
Idaho 210
Middle Tennessee 180
Troy 155
ULM 140
Arkansas State 135
Louisiana Tech 115
Boston U 80
Hofstra 80
North Texas 55
Texas State 55
UCF 55
Florida Atlantic 45
Connecticut 25
East Tennessee State 25
Akron 10
Northeastern 10

Okay, done. Discuss. xthumbsupx +Rep appreciated. :p

[Skjellyfetti]

Excellent! Thanks for working it out and posting it.

[Mountaineer]

Everytime Mountaineer publishes this stuff I think about the people that say "ASU has just been good the last couple of years."

Thanks for the hard work!

My pleasure. It's like Saint3333 has always said, Appalachian has historically been a Top 10 FCS team. The three national titles simply vaulted App into the Top 5 (or in this case Top 3).

[StorminASU]

This is awesome. Very good work. Thanks!

[Saint3333]

My pleasure. It's like Saint3333 has always said, Appalachian has historically been a Top 10 FCS team. The three national titles simply vaulted App into the Top 5 (or in this case Top 3).

Thanks for the stats man you know I love numbers.

If you take away all the points from the three title runs ASU would still finish 9th all-time.

[OL FU]

Awesome work to you & FU as always Mounty.

I think Mountaineer gets all the credit.

[LUHawker]

National Championships and Total Championship Game Appearances

Georgia Southern 6 8
Youngstown State 4 6
Appalachian State 3 3
Eastern Kentucky 2 4
Montana 2 7
Delaware 1 4
Eastern Washington 1 1
Florida A&M 1 1
Furman 1 3
Idaho State 1 1
James Madison 1 1
Montana State 1 1
Richmond 1 1
Southern Illinois 1 1
Villanova 1 1

I'm sure this is just anti-Patriot League bias (just kidding :))) but you forgot both Lehigh and Colgate's NC game appearances. '78 for LU and '03 for the Gate

[Mountaineer]

I'm sure this is just anti-Patriot League bias (just kidding :))) but you forgot both Lehigh and Colgate's NC game appearances. '78 for LU and '03 for the Gate

Oops, that's my bad. I just added the appearances part last night. Originally it was just championship victories. xpeacex

[AppAlum2003]

Oops, that's my bad. I just added the appearances part last night. Originally it was just championship victories. xpeacex

Conspiracy! xmadxxbawlingx
xlolx

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Lehigh is the ONLY program to reach the playoffs in the 70's, 80's, 90's, 00's and 10's.

[Silenoz]

National Championships and Total Championship Game Appearances

Georgia Southern 6 8
Youngstown State 4 6
Appalachian State 3 3
Eastern Kentucky 2 4
Montana 2 7
Delaware 1 4
Eastern Washington 1 1
Florida A&M 1 1
Furman 1 3
Idaho State 1 1
James Madison 1 1
Montana State 1 1
Richmond 1 1
Southern Illinois 1 1
Villanova 1 1

Woooo, slightly better percentage at not sucking

[89Hen]

Nice work on the numbers! xbowx

I will point out that there is only one team in the Top 5 in points in every one of your year categories. xcoolx

[89Hen]

National Championships and Total Championship Game Appearances

Georgia Southern 6 8
Youngstown State 4 6
Appalachian State 3 3
Eastern Kentucky 2 4
Montana 2 7
Delaware 1 4
Eastern Washington 1 1
Florida A&M 1 1
Furman 1 3
Idaho State 1 1
James Madison 1 1
Montana State 1 1
Richmond 1 1
Southern Illinois 1 1
Villanova 1 1

You're missing UMass = 1 championship in 3 appearances.

[State Line Liquors]

Given the data, I'd like to congratulate Delaware on being the All Time Best FCS program East of the Mississippi with indoor plumbing and both front teeth. xhurrayx

[Mountaineer]

You're missing UMass = 1 championship in 3 appearances.

I gave UMass and Texas State the boot from all stats other than former teams since they're on their way out. xthumbsupx

[bojeta]

Great work and very interesting to look at. I know it's impossible to include every factor, but I wonder if it might be possible to factor in/out the years that some teams were not yet participating. Another interesting point: Since you went back to 1980, I think it's fair to point out that Cal Poly beat Boise State that year even though Cal Poly was DII. Boise went on to win the D1AA national championship and Cal Poly won the DII national championship. Is this worth points using your system? Not complaining. Just curious.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Great work and very interesting to look at. I know it's impossible to include every factor, but I wonder if it might be possible to factor in/out the years that some teams were not yet participating. Another interesting point: Since you went back to 1980, I think it's fair to point out that Cal Poly beat Boise State that year even though Cal Poly was DII. Boise went on to win the D1AA national championship and Cal Poly won the DII national championship. Is this worth points using your system? Not complaining. Just curious.

It's just about what teams have done as FCS members I'm pretty sure bojeta. That is impressive though.

[Mountaineer]

Great work and very interesting to look at. I know it's impossible to include every factor, but I wonder if it might be possible to factor in/out the years that some teams were not yet participating. Another interesting point: Since you went back to 1980, I think it's fair to point out that Cal Poly beat Boise State that year even though Cal Poly was DII. Boise went on to win the D1AA national championship and Cal Poly won the DII national championship. Is this worth points using your system? Not complaining. Just curious.

The spreadsheet is already getting pretty unwieldy with the amount of data I'm managing across multiple worksheets so I don't think I'll start factoring lots of other variables. That would include adding points for things done in a different division.

One thing I did though was to take the total points for each team and divide them by the number of playoff appearances to get an average per playoff run. I removed teams with less than three appearances (an arbitrary pick). That means Cal Poly ain't on this list for now. :p What I got was 44 of 64 teams having more than three appearances.


Georgia Southern 57
Youngstown State 56
Montana 40
Delaware 39
Stephen F. Austin 38
Appalachian State 35
Tennessee State 35
Furman 34
Richmond 33
Northern Iowa 32
Eastern Washington 31
Villanova 31
Montana State 31
Southern Illinois 31
Eastern Kentucky 29
Rhode Island 28
Wofford 28
Illinois State 27
James Madison 27
Florida A&M 26
McNeese State 24
Sam Houston State 23
Lehigh 22
William & Mary 22
New Hampshire 21
Western Illinois 19
Colgate 19
Northern Arizona 18
Northwestern State 18
Weber State 18
South Carolina State 17
Maine 16
Alcorn State 15
Citadel 15
Murray State 15
Nicholls State 15
North Carolina A&T 14
Eastern Illinois 13
Grambling State 13
Bethune-Cookman 12
Jacksonville State 12
Jackson State 11
Hampton 10
Lafayette 10

Georgia Southern and Youngstown State are averaging over a semifinal appearance every playoff run. Montana thru Southern Illinois are averaging over a quarterfinal appearance every playoff run. And so on, down to Lafayette and Hampton averaging a first round appearance.

[bojeta]

[QUOTE=Mountaineer;1624598]The spreadsheet is already getting pretty unwieldy with the amount of data I'm managing across multiple worksheets so I don't think I'll start factoring lots of other variables. That would include adding points for things done in a different division.

One thing I did though was to take the total points for each team and divide them by the number of playoff appearances to get an average per playoff run. I removed teams with less than three appearances (an arbitrary pick). That means Cal Poly ain't on this list for now.

Fair enough. It will be nice to be in an auto qualifying conference next year. Cal Poly has been ranked in the top 16 a couple of times, won their conference and yet not been selected for the playoffs due to a lack of auto bid for the Great West. Your spreadsheet should get more interesting as the years pass. Keep up the great work!

[OL FU]

Great work and very interesting to look at. I know it's impossible to include every factor, but I wonder if it might be possible to factor in/out the years that some teams were not yet participating. Another interesting point: Since you went back to 1980, I think it's fair to point out that Cal Poly beat Boise State that year even though Cal Poly was DII. Boise went on to win the D1AA national championship and Cal Poly won the DII national championship. Is this worth points using your system? Not complaining. Just curious.

that's one of the reason I like showing the different numbers of years. The last five years rating is very telling (sadly)

[appfan2008]

awesome work... sure makes answering the mount rushmore question much easier for me!

[Reign of Terrier]

Wofford does mightily well considering we've only been around 14 years in the SoCon. We're tied for 25th all time, and 11th in the last 5 years. Considering there are lots of teams ahead of us whose star is fading/long faded, I'll take it. Now all we need is a title

[MR. CHICKEN]

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[chattanoogamocs]

National Championships and Total Championship Game Appearances

Georgia Southern 6 8
Youngstown State 4 6
Appalachian State 3 3
Eastern Kentucky 2 4
Montana 2 7
Delaware 1 4
Eastern Washington 1 1
Florida A&M 1 1
Furman 1 3
Idaho State 1 1
James Madison 1 1
Montana State 1 1
Richmond 1 1
Southern Illinois 1 1
Villanova 1 1

Pretty amazing to look at those numbers and to realize that over half the teams listed have won straight out of the gate...and not been back.

As for Montana...2 out of 7 makes them the Atlanta Braves/Buffalo Bills of FCS. ;)

(But hey, I wish Chattanooga's biggest problem was that we had only won 2 titles in 7 tries...life could be much worse...and I can't make fun on Montana, my aunt and uncle are Griz season ticket holders)