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carney2
April 21st, 2011, 11:04 AM
BUCKNELL = 50

Each year there is one recruiting class that The Committee anticipates just a little more than the others. This year it's Bucknell. This is Joe Susan's first real recruiting class. What direction is he taking? Smurfs in pads will be history. Right? Will the Buffaloes sharpen their horns and prepare to gore some of their tormentors or will they continue to be what's for dinner? Has Coach Susan begun the long climb to respectability? In The Committee's opinion, the answer to that last question is: not so much. Most people, we believe, expected better than this.

Working in Bucknell's favor is the fact that no one in the Patriot League has exactly blown the top off the recruiting meter in 2011. Still, if this is even a relative step forward, it's a small one. A member of The Committee asks if perhaps – just perhaps – Susan may be working with one hand tied behind his back. Is he getting complete institutional support? This Committee member opines that

2 (lackluster results)
+2 (geographical distribution – or non-distribution – of the recruits, with all but one coming from Pennsylvania or a contiguous state)
=4, where the following marching orders may very well have been issued: “Joe, you can recruit anywhere you want – as long as you can get there and back on one tank of gas.”

One man's conspiracy theory, but some small piece of information to bear in mind when the scholarship flag is raised again, with Bucknell something of a swing vote, and a lot of people convinced that the Bison will vote “Yea” because, after all, President Bravman is from Stanford where he once attended a football game.

THE GOOD
- Apparently the Smurfs have joined the triple option in the rear view mirror. This group includes 5 OL and 3 DL, with 2 additional hyphenated TE/DE recruits. Although not of sufficient size to inspire awe in a League where the offensive linemen are approaching the unthinkable (one team currently shows a two-deep that averages – averages! - in the 310 range), the Bucknell OL recruits are of sufficient size (3 of the 5 are jumbos) to consider it a step in the right direction.
- 29 is a real nice size for a Patriot League recruiting class where need based aid leads to something less than a feeling of contractual servitude, and players come and go a little more easily than in the scholarship programs.

THE BAD
- This will be discussed at greater length in the next section, but The Committee did not have a strong feeling of “quality” with this group. If we had to attach one word to the class as a whole, it struck us that “leftovers” might fit. There are not many individuals where Susan and staff had to out-recruit stronger, or even equal programs, to land them. Now, the Patriot League does not get many of these higher level recruits, but the achieving programs get a few – enough to potentially make a difference. The Committee feels that, with this group, high achievement will be left to luck, late blooming, and “coaching up.” This, of course, is not unusual in the Patriot League, but The Committee sees little here to indicate a head start.

QUALITY = 14: 36% of the Quality points rest with one individual, a 2-star who is not only unconfirmed, but is not even given a nod of existence by two of the three rating services used for this analysis. This makes the 2-star rating highly questionable. The remaining rated recruits (9) received only minimal ratings. What this means, of course, is that they were not highly recruited.

CLASS SIZE = 6: 29 recruits.

DISTRIBUTION = 7: No recruit at RB. In addition, there is one TE recruit and two additional who are listed as TE/DE. You are reminded yet again that TE is no longer considered in Distribution.

SPEED = 10: The usual disclaimer – not much information and The Committee probably missed a few here.

TRIGGER = 0: One QB recruit, and two listed as QB/DB. None with star ratings. In fact, none rated at all.

JUMBO = 5: Three OL and two DL recruits meet the jumbo classification requirements.

NEEDS = 10 (of 12)*:
OL = 4 (of 5): The Bison recruited five OL candidates, 3 are Jumbos (270+) and one is rated. Points have been awarded for the large number of recruits and the reasonable size thereof, but one has been withheld due to the paucity of Quality points.
DL = 3 (of 4): There are three DL recruits along with two additional TE/DE candidates. Two of the recruits meet the Jumbo standard (250+) and two are rated. This appears to be a fairly strong group and only 1 recruit and/or 1 Quality point away from garnering all 4 Needs points.
LB = 3 (of 3): Five recruits is a good number. Two are rated; one the previously mentioned 2-star. Size may be a problem for a few of these guys.

*There were no responses from Bucknell supporters to the call for Needs. The Committee was left on its own recognizance.

COMMITTEE ADJUSTMENTS = Minus 2
The Committee felt that it had lots of cause for deductions, but determined that this recruiting effort should be downgraded simply because it does not give an indication that things are on the upswing, or that the folks in Lewisburg are operating with any sense of urgency.

THE RATINGS RACE with 1 to go:

71 Fordham
60 Holy Cross
57 Colgate
54 Lafayette
50 Bucknell
43 Lehigh

Ken_Z
April 21st, 2011, 12:05 PM
we beat Lehigh, we beat Lehigh!!! gotta celebrate our little victories for Bucknell football.



BUCKNELL = 50

One man's conspiracy theory, but some small piece of information to bear in mind when the scholarship flag is raised again, with Bucknell something of a swing vote, and a lot of people convinced that the Bison will vote “Yea” because, after all, President Bravman is from Stanford where he once attended a football game.


still trying to get Weiss off the hook, ehh.

Bucknell is interested in preserving and strengthening (defined as stability and expansion, not overall FCS competitveness in football) the Patriot League. will vote for scholarships if and only if scholarships will accomplish this. indicators were this was where the league was at last fall. whatever his motivations, Weiss made it clear that would not be accomplished with a yes vote last year. as for the future, no clarity, but i'd give the edge to scholarships since i believe league survival is more likely under that outcome.

ngineer
April 21st, 2011, 10:59 PM
eh....I spoke with Will Rackley tonight at a Lehigh function. I asked him how big he was when he arrived on campus....260 lbs. I don't think the 'jumbo' meter means all that much. First, some guys are going to grow with the weights and the training table and just regular growth as most guys continue to grow til about 20. (Rackley ended up his senior year at 305 lbs). Second, give me an athletic,tough, strong ox at 285 over a 310 tub any day.

Wildcat80
April 22nd, 2011, 06:15 AM
From Fordham press release....interesting how many kids will even come to NYC for a scholarship!

"The 23 newcomers hail from 12 different states, from Massachusetts to California. Five of the 2011 recruits are from Texas with three others coming from both New Jersey and Illinois and two each from California, Georgia and Ohio. The other states represented are Connecticut, Indiana, New York, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania and Rhode Island, with one each."

RichH2
April 22nd, 2011, 11:50 AM
Leftover description quite apt for Bison. My gut reaction also. Some very good athletes , ie Ibrahim from NJ and Marvel at LB both undersized but very good. OL finally some size if not above average in quality. Susan will build a solid program but it will take 3-5 years IMO to be what it used to be.

OLPOP
April 22nd, 2011, 01:24 PM
Wildcat-- Many recruits find NYC a big draw.

Go...gate
April 22nd, 2011, 06:28 PM
Wildcat-- Many recruits find NYC a big draw.

Not bad for post-grad employment, either.

ngineer
April 22nd, 2011, 11:07 PM
Yes, I know LU took a look at Marvel, but thought the same thing. Kid went to The Hill School, so I doubt much financial aid 'needed'.

ngineer
April 22nd, 2011, 11:10 PM
Absolutely, especially for a kid from down south or out west, the excitement of the big city can be a real draw. However, doesn't seem to work for the 'big' schools, as none of the 'big cities', other than LA (which doesn't qualify due to the weather) sport any real football powers anymore.