Elon Goes with Swepson for HC

[TexasTerror]

Presser today for Jason Swepson, the new head coach at Elon... is this the hire that the Phoenix were looking for? Pete Lembo was a big splash in FCS circles. Does this make any headway?


ELON — Jason Swepson, a protégé of North Carolina State coach Tom O’Brien, has been hired as Elon University’s new football coach.

He will be introduced in an official capacity as the school’s 20th football coach during a news conference at noon Monday on campus at Alumni Gym.

It means that Elon’s search to replace the departed Pete Lembo ended exactly three weeks after Lembo resigned to accept the top job at Ball State.

http://www.thetimesnews.com/articles/elon-40030-football-new.html

[gophoenix]

Presser today for Jason Swepson, the new head coach at Elon... is this the hire that the Phoenix were looking for? Pete Lembo was a big splash in FCS circles. Does this make any headway?



http://www.thetimesnews.com/articles/elon-40030-football-new.html

It seems like a leap of faith.

[ElonPride]

It seems like a leap of faith.

Huge leap of faith. I'll support the decision, but I was hoping we would land Bell from Jacksonville.......

Although he is a position coach, Swempson does have a pretty good resume, so let's see what he can do!

[phoenixphanatic21]

Here's hoping he can take us to that next level. I'm real interested to see how the press conference goes.

[elon77]

It doesn't make me feel warm and fuzzy inside or outside.

[PhoenixMan]

I'm not excited by this hire. Compared to the names that I heard were interested, this is not a good hire. Never a HC, at any level, and a coordinator for only one year. 19 years coaching. If you are a hot commodity, someone snatches you up a lot quicker than this. Leap of faith...yes.

[Reign of Terrier]

bad bad bad hire. he's a running back coach, what's the over/under that he completely changes the offense? There is a list of coaches better qualified than this guy. I wouldn't be surprised if Elon sank to the level of what Samford or Furman was this year.

[Reign of Terrier]

says people with no connection to the program at all, and therefore, worth crap
I don't need any connections to the program to see a bad hirexcoffeex

[PhoenixMan]

says people with no connection to the program at all, and therefore, worth crap

OK, Dave Blank. Why don't you help us out and fill us in the merits of hiring Mr. Swepson? Sounds like you are privy to the inner workings of Elon football.

[PhoenixMan]

bad bad bad hire. he's a running back coach, what's the over/under that he completely changes the offense? There is a list of coaches better qualified than this guy. I wouldn't be surprised if Elon sank to the level of what Samford or Furman was this year.

I agree that it's not a great hire, but the offense may need to change. The personnel has changed with the departure of Riddle. Throwing it 40-50 times may not be a good way to go.

[gophoenix]

bad bad bad hire. he's a running back coach, what's the over/under that he completely changes the offense? There is a list of coaches better qualified than this guy. I wouldn't be surprised if Elon sank to the level of what Samford or Furman was this year.

He was a running backs coach recently; he has been OC, QBs, Wide Receivers, etc coach too.

I don't like the hire. But hey, once Ayers and Moore leave, at least we'll get to see Wofford and App going through these pains too.

[Reign of Terrier]

I agree that it's not a great hire, but the offense may need to change. The personnel has changed with the departure of Riddle. Throwing it 40-50 times may not be a good way to go.

maybe so, but other than the QB, what players do they have that could transition to another system? I'm not familiar with roster and whatnot because I'm not an elon fan, but it appears to be a bad decision from the outside looking in to change the system

[Wildcat80]

[QUOTE=TexasTerror;1606640]Presser today for Jason Swepson, the new head coach at Elon... is this the hire that the Phoenix were looking for? Pete Lembo was a big splash in FCS circles. Does this make any headway?


Agree....about Lembo! Everyone in the northeast was impressed with that hire. Do not know anything about your new coach. ??

[Reign of Terrier]

He was a running backs coach recently; he has been OC, QBs, Wide Receivers, etc coach too.

I don't like the hire. But hey, once Ayers and Moore leave, at least we'll get to see Wofford and App going through these pains too.

seeing as our OC and DC are committed to Wofford and have been there for 20 years, they would be both good hires and easy hiresxnodx Ayers is a great coach but our consistency on staff is just as important.

(no offense but) places like Elon and the other up and comers in FCS could really use a coach with a coordinator that wants to take the program to new heights and has coordinators that share his vision and not just use their job as a stepping stone to another, better paying, more prestigious job

[gophoenix]

seeing as our OC and DC are committed to Wofford and have been there for 20 years, they would be both good hires and easy hiresxnodx Ayers is a great coach but our consistency on staff is just as important.

(no offense but) places like Elon and the other up and comers in FCS could really use a coach with a coordinator that wants to take the program to new heights and has coordinators that share his vision and not just use their job as a stepping stone to another, better paying, more prestigious job

There aren't many people like that left in the world....

[ElonAlum]

I think this was a plan E or maybe F hire instead of a plan A,B or even C.

Im pretty blown away with the fact we waited weeks and got a total unknown. Yes we are an up and coming FCS team but I thought we could lure some one with at least a little bit of a name....guess not.

This guy has been with O'Brien forever and never moved up. Yes he was an OC but that was a LONG time ago. Why did he just sit there as a position coach for so long??

Blank has made a few good hires lately so maybe this one is his sleeper hire.....but I doubt it. I think this was a total money hire which is pathetic.

It all comes down to what style of system he runs and who he will hire to be the OC and DC.

Ill back him and see how things pan out.

[Phoenixrising]

This stinks all around. Whatever coach that was going to come in was going to have big shoes to fill in Lembo's wake. While Pete never got over the hump with a playoff win or a W over app and richmond, Lembo set a new tone for the school. We were an up-and-coming program and this hire makes us seem like we are nothing more than a low-level success story. We hired Lembo from one of those(Sorry Lehigh, no offense). I wish i could have seen that press conference to know what Blank was thinking!

[Brad82]

Swepson was candidate for URI job a few years ago.
He is highly regarded.

[ElonAlum]

By who??

[gophoenix]

Swepson was candidate for URI job a few years ago.
He is highly regarded.

Yes, and look how bad URI is, look at the direction URI is going and they didn't even take Swepson.

[Saint3333]

Swepson was candidate for URI job a few years ago.
He is highly regarded.

Highly regarded yet didn't get the job at RI - anyone else see a problem with this statement?

[phan]

Does anyone know for sure who else was considered and or turned down the job, it was a very tight lipped search. I am not crazy about this hire, I feel Bateman or Skrosky could have been kept here and led the program successfully.

[whoanellie]

i did see the press conference and it looks like We are going with the Tom Obrien coaching tree as Swepson is 7th coach to become a head coach
as Obrien's staffs seem to stay intact. Ranked as a top recruiter and knows the local area as NCSU recruiter in Alamance Co. Also knows Elon via of Pete Lembo's association. Wish him well and his staff much success. He has better talent to start with than Pete.

[Phoenix87]

While I was surprised by the hire, none of us can truly comment to the strength of the hire. I thought we would at least hire someone with OC or DC experience at a significant program. I'm sure Skrosky and Bateman were both offered the position, but no one is going to pass up the opportunity to jump up to the I-A level as a coordinator.

I was happy to hear that Swepson has strong recruiting ties with in NC. Will be all about who he surrounds himself with on his staff. While Riddle is gone, there is still a lot of depth at receiver. Ever since Skrosky took over as OC they tried to establish more of a running game, compared to when Ruggiero was at Elon.

Excited to see what type of game plan is installed.

The I-AA level will always be a stepping stone towards a I-A school. Pete left the program in great shape and most likely it will be another 4-6 year stint for Swepson before we're are looking for our next coach. Aren't many Jerry Moore's out there anymore that call a I-AA school their home. Especially when hiring young head coaches.

[bjtheflamesfan]

EFR, I understand the excitement at the coaching change but you really are not off to a very good start even if you do play for the Phoenix...Id tone it down a bit and remember that this is a message board so youre going to have divergent opinions on some things, even from within a school's fan base.

[bjtheflamesfan]

Well theyre outsiders...of course theyre going to have their opinions of it...and so are folks who are familiar with the program (whether as players or fans). Let them have their two cents and you have yours...and we'll see what happens when the rubber meets the road over the coming months...you just need to cool your jets right now...

[Brad82]

Elon only plays 3 tough games a year (all losses). A CAA game,App. state and one more.
How hard can the job be? Swepson does not have to have HC experience vs. Samford,Citadel,Davidson,Presby.,etc. to win.

[gophoenix]

Elon only plays 3 tough games a year (all losses). A CAA game,App. state and one more.
How hard can the job be? Swepson does not have to have HC experience vs. Samford,Citadel,Davidson,Presby.,etc. to win.

Samford and The Citadel have good coaches. We don't play Davidson and haven't played Presby in years. This year we had Duke, Richmond, App, GSU, UTC and Wofford. Seems like more than 3 tough games a year.

[eaglewraith]

Elon only plays 3 tough games a year (all losses). A CAA game,App. state and one more.
How hard can the job be? Swepson does not have to have HC experience vs. Samford,Citadel,Davidson,Presby.,etc. to win.

Uh they play more than 3 tough games.

[ElonAlum]

Well since I can't say PG13 things here I will just say that some people don't know jack and needs to not talk trash about Elons schedule.

[Saint3333]

This is very entertaining.

Someone may need a reality check. Any SoCon team that plays one FBS and one CAA OOC game has one of the 20 toughest FCS schedules. This guy can't be "for realz".

[Phoenix87]

Listen, you guys don't play, so let me tell it like this, in detail. We are all THRILLED to have the opportunity to play for Jason Swepson. He knows what he's doing. We're going to keep the spread offense intact, and I feel like we'll finally be able to have fun out there. NOBODY liked playing for Lembo. He NEVER congratulated us for a good play. We could have a successful special teams play, but if we didn't follow the card exactly like it was drawn up, we'd get chewed out. We were made to be mindless drones out there.

Also, Lembo didn't do most of the recruiting. That was mainly done by Skrosky (I love this man. Great guy, character and offensive coordinator. My favorite coach of my entire career. I'm not exaggerating) and Bateman (the defensive coordinator). Lembo couldn't sell crap. He didn't do the in-homes or the phone calls. I think that will change a lot now. Swepson has a deep Bostonian accent, something I haven't really been exposed to before. But he knows what he's talking about. We're going to keep the spread offense that we had under Lembo, but I think we will finally be able to have fun out there. Because, after all, it is a game. He said we'll be champions in three areas: in the classroom, in the community and on the football field. I hope he keeps it in that area, because I feel that grades and helping the community are more important than the game I play. Even though I LOVE the game I play. I look forward to playing my senior season under Swepson, and this will be an awesome experience. We've got the next Lombardi on our hands, and I can't wait to be a part of it.

EFF, as someone who IS a previous a member of the Elon Football team under Coach Lembo, to say that he never congratulated players for their good play is completely WRONG. So whether or not you are a member of the football team and a rising Sr, watch what your saying because you never know who is reading this stuff. I was in the the post game huddle after Wilcox drilled a game winning field goal to beat Georgia Southern for the first time in school history and he had tears in his eyes he was so happy for us. And there were many more instances as we fought from the basement of the conference to compete for a conference championship. While he was Pistol Pete for a reason, to say he didn't care about us as players and care about the program is just not true. Pete came in and completely reshaped the Elon football program. He demanded a lot, but nothing over the top. For that I thank him, as do the rest of us that played and worked under him. And now we move on to supporting Coach Swepson.

Go Phoenix. The countdown to spring ball begins.

[gophoenix]

Oh please. Compared to our schedule, UConn's schedule is the toughest of alltime. I love my team, but were FCS.... minor league college football. That's who we play

Who said anything about UConn, Boise State or Ohio State? Yes, we're FCS, you measure the schedule against FCS competition not FBS competition.

As for what Lembo did at Elon that non-players know and care about? What to know some of the things? Without fans, there is no team. Without donors, there is no team. Without a stadium, there is no team. Without sponsors, there is no team. Without cheerleaders, a band, students... the game day experience turns into something like Charleston Southern's 10 years ago. You guys are doing it for the fun of it and many of you are getting full or partial scholarships out of it; which is a benefit that lots of us do not have.

But at the same time, the rest of the people giving and supporting to make the team happen also deserve some sort of communication by the coaching staff. Seagraves was ok at it, Hamilton sucked at it and Lembo rocked with it. Lembo not only appreciated the stuedents and fans, but helped get items built. Some of the players loved him and some hated him (that's what being a manager is all about). But the fans not only loved him, felt he appreciated them and he fed them information to help make things better.

[gophoenix]

It's funny that you think we have fans. Our fans are an embarrassment to college football. Lots of rich people who have no concept of school pride

Ok, then I can stop coming. Woohoo, I'm glad we cleared that up.

If you think our fans are bad, then I challenge you to go to games in the MAC, Big SOuth, NEC, OVC and see what really bad atmospheres can really be like. And no, that's not all the schools. But you need to get off your high horse and stop lecturing us loyal supporters. Lembo increased student, alumni and local fan support. An average of 2000 more tails were in seats for games than from Seagraves or Hamilton. And if you want to knock people for not having a concept of school pride; why don't you guys stop losing the big games, stop playing dirty and people will be more apt to care like you want. And you can blame lots of that on the Athletics Department who makes people sit down who are standing up, escorts people out for refusing, controls how and when the band plays and wants a controlled family atmosphere. If you were in the stands, you'd see why our fans are like they are.

Heaven forbid anyone care, have an opinion, go to games and cheer and support you supposed players.

[phan]

x2

Ok, then I can stop coming. Woohoo, I'm glad we cleared that up.

If you think our fans are bad, then I challenge you to go to games in the MAC, Big SOuth, NEC, OVC and see what really bad atmospheres can really be like. And no, that's not all the schools. But you need to get off your high horse and stop lecturing us loyal supporters. Lembo increased student, alumni and local fan support. An average of 2000 more tails were in seats for games than from Seagraves or Hamilton. And if you want to knock people for not having a concept of school pride; why don't you guys stop losing the big games, stop playing dirty and people will be more apt to care like you want. And you can blame lots of that on the Athletics Department who makes people sit down who are standing up, escorts people out for refusing, controls how and when the band plays and wants a controlled family atmosphere. If you were in the stands, you'd see why our fans are like they are.

Heaven forbid anyone care, have an opinion, go to games and cheer and support you supposed players.

[bjtheflamesfan]

EFR...I already told you to chill out...I ALSO already explained to you that this is a MESSAGE BOARD...either tone it down or you can take a week and chill out

[ElonPride]

EFR...I already told you to chill out...I already explained to you that this is a MESSAGE BOARD...either tone it down or you can take a week and chill out

+1

[Reign of Terrier]

lets tackle a player taking a knee. It is football after all

[gophoenix]

lets tackle a player taking a knee. It is football after all

It's not about that, or the complaints from Appy fans on their fragile QBs. It is about the sheer number of personal fouls called on Elon the past two seasons.

[Reign of Terrier]

It's not about that, or the complaints from Appy fans on their fragile QBs. It is about the sheer number of personal fouls called on Elon the past two seasons.

I'm just being satirical, the claim that playing dirty is just playing football is, well, wrong

[elon77]

This is the best thread ever!!! xlolx
Just to recap, Elon fans DO indeed suck and the players DO play dirty. Ok, now talk amongst yourselves, haha.

Wow, I never thought I sucked. If that had come from anyone but a first time posting, felt hat wearing, moonshine making, outhouse building, Hillbillie, I might have been offended. To all the good fans at ASU, I wasn't talking about you.

[phan]

Wow, I never thought I sucked. If that had come from anyone but a first time posting, felt hat wearing, moonshine making, outhouse building, Hillbillie, I might have been offended. To all the good fans at ASU, I wasn't talking about you.

Cut him some slack, he only recently got this new internet thingxlolx

[eaglewraith]

lets tackle a player taking a knee. It is football after all

I'm torn. You seem like a guy that I could really like most of the time. (and I'm assuming you're referring to the play at the end of our game against Elon when Shaw was thrown to the ground after taking a knee, if not I wouldn't be surprised it happened again)

But god I hate you so much whenever one of our games is approaching.

[Reign of Terrier]

I'm torn. You seem like a guy that I could really like most of the time. (and I'm assuming you're referring to the play at the end of our game against Elon when Shaw was thrown to the ground after taking a knee, if not I wouldn't be surprised it happened again)

But god I hate you so much whenever one of our games is approaching.
xlolx yes and the feeling's mutual!

[eagleruckus]

i hope this guy isnt really an elon player, i am embarrassed for elon

[Reign of Terrier]

If people are upset about personal fouls, they need to grow up. They're a part of the game. We aren't just going to stop going hard. I'm an offensive player, but I have to admit, the rules are shaped towards our side of the ball. Any hit close to the helmet and everybody cries about it. It's time to just man up and take it like a man. If you can't stand our hits when you're taking a knee, don't take a knee

some doesn't need head trauma to suffer from damaged brain cells

[eagleruckus]

so whats the over/under on elon wins next year? 5.5?

[Reign of Terrier]

seeing as how I have a 3.5 GPA, I think you need to check yourself with the personal attacks.

I think you need to check yourself with the "common sense," your presence here, identifying yourself as a player and all is not your smartest move. And no one cares about your GPA

[Reign of Terrier]

How is it not the smartest move? One, I never told you my name. Two, it's my honest opinion and it's the truth. Three, what's your point?
how many players do you hear about posting on a national forum such as this? Granted they may be registered but they never comment and identify themselves as players. I know for a fact that players look on these sights but at the same time none of them identify themselves as players(because they have intelligence). You're right, you didn't say your name but at the same time you have identified yourself as an offensive player. You've already narrowed down which player you could be. Why is this important? You are a representative of your university and when you come on here criticizing your own fans and coaches nothing good can come from it. The last thing a coach wants is one of his players yacking on the internet to total strangers when that player possesses "inside information" about the team. Nothing good comes from it.

[bjtheflamesfan]

OK EFR Ive already warned you twice...this is your last warning...cool it or Im gonna have to sit you down for a week-10 days

[bjtheflamesfan]

Look bud...you say youre a player for Elon right? you cannot let what other fans say get under your skin like that...are they wrong? they may well be I dont know Im not at Elon or App or Wofford or anywhere in the SoCon...you can disagree with them which is fine but some of the stuff you said prior has bordered on hysterical...you can disagree and still be civil...now can we try to be calm and rational about this or am I gonna haave to start handing out 15 yard penalties?

[bjtheflamesfan]

I dont mind you standing up for your team but if I took the time to quote all of your posts in this discussion and break them down individually Id certainly increase my post count...youve been on this forum for less than two days and have 16 posts...most of which have been in this forum in response to people who didnt like Elon's hire...so a Wofford fan doesnt like the hire...who gives a hoot? let them wallow in their own drivel...you dont have to personally answer every single post that could disagree with the move...that is what they WANT...they want to exact a response out of you...dont give them that pleasure. you guys can prove how wrong they are where it REALLY matters...on the field. So how about you do like Ive told you twice and chill out...now if they start talking about you personally THEN you can take issue (and I can do something about that)

[eaglewraith]

If people are upset about personal fouls, they need to grow up. They're a part of the game. We aren't just going to stop going hard. I'm an offensive player, but I have to admit, the rules are shaped towards our side of the ball. Any hit close to the helmet and everybody cries about it. It's time to just man up and take it like a man. If you can't stand our hits when you're taking a knee, don't take a knee

You're lucky our coach isn't like some others. Our entire stadium wanted us to score on you again just for that cheap shot. We could have done it too because we had little trouble doing what we wanted all over the field. Fortunately our coach has a cool head and didn't want to embarass you anymore than he already had.

[elon77]

how many players do you hear about posting on a national forum such as this? Granted they may be registered but they never comment and identify themselves as players. I know for a fact that players look on these sights but at the same time none of them identify themselves as players(because they have intelligence). You're right, you didn't say your name but at the same time you have identified yourself as an offensive player. You've already narrowed down which player you could be. Why is this important? You are a representative of your university and when you come on here criticizing your own fans and coaches nothing good can come from it. The last thing a coach wants is one of his players yacking on the internet to total strangers when that player possesses "inside information" about the team. Nothing good comes from it.

I have to agree with youngterrier on this. If you actually are a football player maybe you should back up and just read this board and keep your comments to yourself. If you keep spouting off, people are going to think you are the Elon Alexa, and that's not too good. There are alot of people on here who have played or play football, had or have 3.5 GPA's and no one really cares.

[gophoenix]

The SoCon stats from last year, Elon lead in personal fouls. Not in penalties in general, but in personal fouls. And yes, I know App has cried and cried about two hits on Edwards and then a helmet to helmet on Presley. They're legal hits, yes, they need to man up and deal with it. But the personal fouls, especially late hits, bordered on many fans as frustration penalties. And after a number of games, ends up being interpreted as dirty. It didn't say it was a dirty team, I said there were plays that seemed dirty.

[phoenix3]

how many players do you hear about posting on a national forum such as this? Granted they may be registered but they never comment and identify themselves as players. I know for a fact that players look on these sights but at the same time none of them identify themselves as players(because they have intelligence). You're right, you didn't say your name but at the same time you have identified yourself as an offensive player. You've already narrowed down which player you could be. Why is this important? You are a representative of your university and when you come on here criticizing your own fans and coaches nothing good can come from it. The last thing a coach wants is one of his players yacking on the internet to total strangers when that player possesses "inside information" about the team. Nothing good comes from it.

EFR, I agree with what Youngterrier said in this post. You reveal more about yourself with every post. I suggest you stop this rant, change your user name and refrain from posting for a while until you think things over and cool down a bit. I'm not trying to be your dad, coach or your superior. But, I can tell you I personally know people that are VERY close to the team that monitor this board. With what you've already told us, and with what your posts say about your personality, these people may have ALREADY figured out who you are.

[phoenix3]

As for Swepson. Blank has made some pretty good hires in the past at Elon. The two basketball coaches are starting to turn their respective programs around. Neither of them had HC experience prior to their hiring. I'm starting to gain a little confidence in Swepson just from what I've heard in the last couple of days. I am also starting to think that Blank has a knack for finding previously undiscovered talent. Time will tell but I's starting to get more comfortable, day by day, with Swepson.

[Skjellyfetti]

And yes, I know App has cried and cried about two hits on Edwards and then a helmet to helmet on Presley. They're legal hits, yes, they need to man up and deal with it. But the personal fouls, especially late hits, bordered on many fans as frustration penalties. And after a number of games, ends up being interpreted as dirty. It didn't say it was a dirty team, I said there were plays that seemed dirty.

Bull****. Armanti was knocked out of the game on a late hit personal foul against Elon in 2008. An Elon player dove at Armanti's leg as he lay on the ground after throwing a pass. The penalty took away an interception for Elon. It wasn't legal and it WAS dirty.

[phoenix3]

Bull****. Armanti was knocked out of the game on a late hit personal foul against Elon in 2008. An Elon player dove at Armanti's leg as he lay on the ground after throwing a pass. The penalty took away an interception for Elon. It wasn't legal and it WAS dirty.

I have listened to this BS since 2008. Once the pass was intercepted, Edwards became a defensive player. At that point, it was Josh Jones' job to keep Edwards from tackling the ball carrier. Edwards was getting back up & Jones put him back down. Should Jones have let Edwards back up? I dont think so! We all know what type of athlete Edwards is. Frankly, I think the PF was a bad call. I was there & saw exactly what happened. I can't blame the Mountaineer faithful for feeling bad for their star QB getting hurt. I can also say that Elon has had several questionable late hits & personal fouls by some "bad apples". Josh Jones isn't one of the bad apples. And, I can promise you that for every personal foul & questionable late hit Elon has had over the years, App has had at least one to match. We are going into the 2011 season. Move on. This thread is about Swepson. I wish everytime a thread is started about anything Elon, that the App fans would either post about that issue or just start another thread about how dirty Elon is so the rest of the country could just ignore it.

[ElonPride]

Bull****. Armanti was knocked out of the game on a late hit personal foul against Elon in 2008. An Elon player dove at Armanti's leg as he lay on the ground after throwing a pass. The penalty took away an interception for Elon. It wasn't legal and it WAS dirty.

xbawlingx

[gophoenix]

Bull****. Armanti was knocked out of the game on a late hit personal foul against Elon in 2008. An Elon player dove at Armanti's leg as he lay on the ground after throwing a pass. The penalty took away an interception for Elon. It wasn't legal and it WAS dirty.

xbawlingx

And here we go with the typical.....

[Saint3333]

If you guys read the GSU, Wofford, Furman, etc. boards you may find that other conference members agree that Elon isn't up for the sportsmanship award under Lembo. But hey it is only the ASU fans that are crazy right?

[Skjellyfetti]

xbawlingx

And here we go with the typical.....

Just setting the record straight. You said it was on legal hits. That's not the case.

[Reign of Terrier]

If you guys read the GSU, Wofford, Furman, etc. boards you may find that other conference members agree that Elon isn't up for the sportsmanship award under Lembo. But hey it is only the ASU fans that are crazy right?
yes and yes:)

[gophoenix]

Just setting the record straight. You said it was on legal hits. That's not the case.

Ok, but that wasn't a dirty hit anymore than the horse collar on our player was that injured him this year. It was an unfortunate hit. Some of the others as me and Phoenix3 were talking about are. Oh, and 2009 was a clean hit. 2010 hit on presley was a clean hit.

Hit in GSU game = bad, Wofford game=bad, late hits out of bounds at App=bad. The others, not so much. Funny cause the most vocal whiners on Elon being "dirty" site the non-dirty stuff as an example.

[Saint3333]

This thread has taken a bad turn somewhere, Elon's sportsmanship under Lembo is well documented and this horse is dead. Shouldn't we be talking about the underwhelming hire Elon has made?

[Reign of Terrier]

Ok, but that wasn't a dirty hit anymore than the horse collar on our player was that injured him this year. It was an unfortunate hit. Some of the others as me and Phoenix3 were talking about are. Oh, and 2009 was a clean hit. 2010 hit on presley was a clean hit.

Hit in GSU game = bad, Wofford game=bad, late hits out of bounds at App=bad. The others, not so much.

I'll admit that I don't remember any bad hits by Elon players this year, but in '08 one of them did punch one of our linemen in the gut because he was getting beat and he was away from the ball. And they poked the punter in the eye of all people

[ElonPride]

This thread has taken a bad turn somewhere, Elon's sportsmanship under Lembo is well documented and this horse is dead. Shouldn't we be talking about the underwhelming hire Elon has made?

Well, ASU did win the personal foul penalty battle this year. ASU=Dirty players.......

[Saint3333]

EP I really tired to end this, but if you seriously want to argue who the dirtiest team in the SoCon that is fine. I say we let non-ASU and Elon posters vote, I know who'll "win".

ASU does celebrate too much which generates "personal fouls". ASU gets by far the most celebration penalties (something I'd wish they'd tone down), but Elon still gets the dirtiest award.

[SpeedkingATL]

The selection of Swepson, like the selection of any new head coach is an unknown and only time will show rather it was a good selection or not. The "name" coach is not always the best selection and previous head coaching experience is not always an indicator of future success. No one can possibly label this guy before the first snap of his career at Elon.

[whoanellie]

just for the record '10 stat line on penalties Penalties: Number-Yards Elon 5-59 ASU 12-116 please stop the Crapp your building a straw man
and it will not stand up. excessive TD celebrations that cost the rest of the team, come on man!!!

Well, ASU did win the personal foul penalty battle this year. ASU=Dirty players.......

[ElonPride]

EP I really tired to end this, but if you seriously want to argue who the dirtiest team in the SoCon that is fine. I say we let non-ASU and Elon posters vote, I know who'll "win".

ASU does celebrate too much which generates "personal fouls". ASU gets by far the most celebration penalties (something I'd wish they'd tone down), but Elon still gets the dirtiest award.

Saint, the point to show you how simple it is to make a blanket statement. Here's a couple more:

ASU's had 8 times as many football players arrested in the past decade as compared to Elon. ASU=criminals.

ASU was ranked one of the "druggiest" schools in the nation. ASU=potheads.

See how easy that is?

[Saint3333]

Or you could read the other SoCon boards and notice that fans from at least 3 other schools are making the same "blanket statement". I'm willing to admit that ASU showboats too much as there is evidence of this, don't be afraid to be objectivity towards your own team. You've watched the games and the eye test tells you that under Lembo hits after the whistle and yes cheap shots were tolerated. Like I said Lembo is gone and hopefully the new guy will clean up that perception.

[ElonPride]

Or you could read the other SoCon boards and notice that fans from at least 3 other schools are making the same "blanket statement". I'm willing to admit that ASU showboats too much as there is evidence of this, don't be afraid to be objectivity towards your own team. You've watched the games and the eye test tells you that under Lembo hits after the whistle and yes cheap shots were tolerated. Like I said Lembo is gone and hopefully the new guy will clean up that perception.

Well, I also read on another board that the "cheap shots" have moved to the basketball court at Elon.......which is not true. I've never seen Elon players take a "cheap shot" on the football field, but I sure saw one in the ASU/Elon game this season that took out Newsome. See, this is a two way street.

[gophoenix]

I wouldn't say it was a Lembo problem, I would say it is a problem with a few players who are long gone. The GSU thing was unfortunate. But that's really the only one of it's kind this year. I re-watched the Wofford one on YouTube and it could have gone either way and those types of hits will happen.

The real deal is; two of the three schools in question has a lot of fans and are very vocal. So, if something happens that a number of people can jump on, they will and it will be loud and be heard. The Wofford comments have been hit or miss and that was, again, two years ago. If I complain about App, with 10% of Elon fans on the net, then it really amounts to what sounds like whining by a few fans and it is easy to drown out by the App nation. If 10% of App fans on the net complain about something about Elon does. The Elon fans can't drown it out and the App fans voice can make it seem worse than it is because it seems like a majority.

The real issue is, a lot of App fans were against Elon being in the conference; made a very vocal complaint for 3 years about it. When our teams got better, then the complaint had to be something else because you couldn't complain about the sports anymore. So, it is dirty Baseball, Football and now Basketball.

[Saint3333]

I wouldn't say Riddle is "long gone". In fact he still has time to show Elon is a great light one more baseball season.

The Wofford comments I'm referring to are from this year, they watched the GSU game. Haven't seen Elon's basketball so no comment there.

This isn't the world against Elon as you make it out to be, these are observations made by various groups of fans. Don't know how else to explain it so I'll stop trying, good luck cleaning up the image.

[ElonPride]

Or you could read the other SoCon boards and notice that fans from at least 3 other schools are making the same "blanket statement". I'm willing to admit that ASU showboats too much as there is evidence of this, don't be afraid to be objectivity towards your own team. You've watched the games and the eye test tells you that under Lembo hits after the whistle and yes cheap shots were tolerated. Like I said Lembo is gone and hopefully the new guy will clean up that perception.

Well Saint, let's continue the list


ASU's had 8 times as many football players arrested in the past decade as compared to Elon. ASU=criminals.
ASU was ranked one of the "druggiest" schools in the nation. ASU=potheads.
ASU consistenly has more personal foul penalty yardage than points. ASU=Showgirls....I mean showboats

[gophoenix]

I wouldn't say Riddle is "long gone". In fact he still has time to show Elon is a great light one more baseball season.

The Wofford comments I'm referring to are from this year, they watched the GSU game. Haven't seen Elon's basketball so no comment there.

This isn't the world against Elon as you make it out to be, these are observations made by various groups of fans. Don't know how else to explain it so I'll stop trying, good luck cleaning up the image.

Of course it isn't the world against Elon. It is a loud handful of fans from GSU and App against Elon. The sames one constantly posting about the same things for years on end.

But then again, you recruited a charged counterfeiter. You're recruiting a UGa recruit who they stopped persuing because of DUI and legal trouble. You played a player charged with crimes in South Carolina. The two players with us that were charged were gone within a day; and the one recruit in trouble has his offer revoked. So how well the spin works?? Fans who chant, taunt and cheer when players go down for the opposing team. Can I continue? I've seen the same comments from The Citadel, Furman and Liberty fans. So, that must mean it is true.

[eagleruckus]

Well, I also read on another board that the "cheap shots" have moved to the basketball court at Elon.......which is not true. I've never seen Elon players take a "cheap shot" on the football field, but I sure saw one in the ASU/Elon game this season that took out Newsome. See, this is a two way street.

you have never seen an elon player take a cheap shot on the football field???? what do you call hitting a quaterback as he is taking a knee? is that playing hard in your book? because in my book it is a poor sport who is throwing a hissy fit over losing, seriously you need to look at the definition of cheap shot if you dont think hitting a qb as he is taking a knee is cheap

[Saint3333]

Of course it isn't the world against Elon. It is a loud handful of fans from GSU and App against Elon. The sames one constantly posting about the same things for years on end.

But then again, you recruited a charged counterfeiter. You're recruiting a UGa recruit who they stopped persuing because of DUI and legal trouble. You played a player charged with crimes in South Carolina. The two players with us that were charged were gone within a day; and the one recruit in trouble has his offer revoked. So how well the spin works?? Fans who chant, taunt and cheer when players go down for the opposing team. Can I continue? I've seen the same comments from The Citadel, Furman and Liberty fans. So, that must mean it is true.

Add Wofford and Furman fans to your Elon list. Get over it dirtybirds.

[ElonPride]

Add Wofford and Furman fans to your Elon list. Get over it dirtybirds.

And let's keep the list going:


ASU's had 8 times as many football players arrested in the past decade as compared to Elon. ASU=criminals.
ASU was ranked one of the "druggiest" schools in the nation. ASU=potheads.
ASU consistenly has more personal foul penalty yardage than points. ASU=Showgirls....I mean showboats
Saint can't quit talking about Elon. ASU has Phoenix envy.

[gophoenix]

And now let the smack fly, well done Saint, well done!

I just did a quick little search on theuffp and Wofford boards. And, well, I really don't see anything outside of the one stupid incident at Wofford back in 2008 mentioned.

The truth is. GSU has a real gripe with the one hit on a QB taking a knee. That's true. And Wofford has one gripe, as the other wasn't even shown on TV. Outside of that, I am kind of curious why the Appers are complaining, you have us beaten in personal fouls in the game for the past three years combined.

[cmaxwellgsu]

I will definitely not be calling this a bad hire, because Swepson is way too unknown for me to judge. One thing about FCS is that those unknowns are tomorrow's rising stars if they win. I think getting a position coach from FBS is better than getting a coordinator or a D-2 head coach. The good coordinators are going to wait FBS head jobs, and the D2 coaches have some real adjustments to make in order to be successful.

I do hope Swepson has a handle on things before our trip to Elon. Lembo's squad last year erased a lot of respect I had for their team. Other than the big cheap shot, there were a few other minor instances that really showed a lack of discipline. It would makes Swepson's life a lot easier in the long run to fix this kind of stuff.

[Saint3333]

Look no further than a well respected Wofford fan agreeing with the comments.

EP and GP are trying very hard to get at ASU fans, guess what guys ain't going happen. This is like WCU claiming ASU is jealous of them, come back to reality, enjoy the rest of this thread.

Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience. ;-)

[AshevilleApp2]

And now let the smack fly, well done Saint, well done!

I just did a quick little search on theuffp and Wofford boards. And, well, I really don't see anything outside of the one stupid incident at Wofford back in 2008 mentioned.

The truth is. GSU has a real gripe with the one hit on a QB taking a knee. That's true. And Wofford has one gripe, as the other wasn't even shown on TV. Outside of that, I am kind of curious why the Appers are complaining, you have us beaten in personal fouls in the game for the past three years combined.

On the scoreboard as well.

[gophoenix]

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On the scoreboard as well.

Wow? Seriously?! That happened? On the scoreboard too? And with Mr. DUI Coco Hillary himself whining about a hit in the game afterwards too!

I now see why there is no problem going after that UGa recruit. Jerry Moore and the App administration must allow this sort of behavior.

[Reign of Terrier]

what has Elon done as a football team again?

[ElonPride]

Win an important game and talk to us later. Loser.

And the list continues:

* ASU's had 8 times as many football players arrested in the past decade as compared to Elon. ASU=criminals.
* ASU was ranked one of the "druggiest" schools in the nation. ASU=potheads.
* ASU consistenly has more personal foul penalty yardage than points. ASU=Showgirls....I mean showboats
* Saint can't quit talking about Elon. ASU has Phoenix envy.
* See Previous bullet
* ASU fans always resort to personal attacks. ASU=no class.

[AshevilleApp2]

And the list continues:

* ASU's had 8 times as many football players arrested in the past decade as compared to Elon. ASU=criminals.
* ASU was ranked one of the "druggiest" schools in the nation. ASU=potheads.
* ASU consistenly has more personal foul penalty yardage than points. ASU=Showgirls....I mean showboats
* Saint can't quit talking about Elon. ASU has Phoenix envy.
* See Previous bullet
* ASU fans always resort to personal attacks. ASU=no class.

Did I hurt your little feelings? I'm so very sorry. Really and truly. Feel better now?

Good luck with your new coach.

Oh and lets start another list.

Elon graduate and current middle school teacher arrested for sex with 14 year old student. Elon=Pedophiles

http://www.news-record.com/content/2011/01/04/article/middle_school_teacher_charged_with_sexual_miscondu ct_with_student

[ElonPride]

Did I hurt your little feelings? I'm so very sorry. Really and truly. Feel better now?

Good luck with your new coach.

Oh and lets start another list.

Elon graduate and current middle school teacher arrested for sex with 14 year old student. Elon=Pedophiles

http://www.news-record.com/content/2011/01/04/article/middle_school_teacher_charged_with_sexual_miscondu ct_with_student


Man, that's acutally a little too serious to be joking around with........

[phoenix3]

It's too bad this thread has deteriorated to this. Moderators, please lock it or move it to smack.

[Reign of Terrier]

i like pie

[AshevilleApp2]

Man, that's acutally a little too serious to be joking around with........

Fair enough. No more lists. Allright?

[Eaglesrus]

xpopcornxxpopcornxxpopcornx
Fair enough. No more lists. Allright?

xpopcornx

Hey, y'all don't stop now, though if you don't I'm gonna have to go out and find some more popcorn.

[Saint3333]

Man, that's acutally a little too serious to be joking around with........

Yeah we were having the quarterly GP, EP and Saint tiff and someone decided to "keep it real" <----- great skit from the Chappell show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2IlSE-sM6E&feature=related

[ElonPride]

Yeah we were having the quarterly GP, EP and Saint tiff and someone decided to "keep it real" <----- great skit from the Chappell show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2IlSE-sM6E&feature=related

Well, I do work in Tv, so maybe I need to get us our own show :) Certainly would be intersting around game time :)

[ElonPride]

Fair enough. No more lists. Allright?

Well......no more this far ahead of the season.xsmiley_wix

[gophoenix]

what has Elon done as a football team again?

4 NAIA Title game appearance
2 NAIA Titles
1 First round draft pick in football
7 North State Conference Champs
6 Carolinas Conference Champs
5 South Atlantic Conference Champs
29 players in the NFL
8 NAIA playoff appearances
4 NAIA Title game appearances
1 D-II Playoff appearance
1 FCS Playoff Appearance
FCS's all time leading receiver in many categories
FCS's all time leading receiving duo

I can list more if you want. And to note, this is not saying Elon is better than any other program, this is simply answering the Wofford fan's question on what Elon has done as a program.

[gophoenix]

It's too bad this thread has deteriorated to this. Moderators, please lock it or move it to smack.

They always go like that. App fans descend like a plague on every Elon thread. A few GSU and one Wofford fan will join in. And then it leads down this road. Duh, you've been here long enough, you should just expect it now.

[gophoenix]

Fair enough. No more lists. Allright?

There's a difference between making lists and making light of a rape charge. And honestly, I am mixed on the whole charges = team suspension or school suspension thing. After all, those UTC players were kicked off their team/suspended and it turned out that girl made it all up.

[AshevilleApp2]

Well......no more this far ahead of the season.xsmiley_wix

Deal. To be resumed later. xlolx

[AshevilleApp2]

There's a difference between making lists and making light of a rape charge. And honestly, I am mixed on the whole charges = team suspension or school suspension thing. After all, those UTC players were kicked off their team/suspended and it turned out that girl made it all up.

Based on your response, I'm not sure you read the story. In any event, I'm not making light of any charge. I only responded to sweeping generalizations with one of my own.

[Saint3333]

29 players in the NFL


29 seems high. How did you define "players" in the NFL?

You guys were good at your level in 30's and 1970-1981.

[ElonPride]

29 seems high. How did you define "players" in the NFL?

You guys were good at your level in 30's and 1970-1981.

I know this is a football board, but what the heck happened to your men's basketball team last night? App had a double digit lead and ended up losing to a (then) 0-15 UNCG.....and at home no less!

[Saint3333]

EP that is embarrassing. It happens every year. ASU builds a little run, people start to get interested and go to the game, then they lay an egg. It was King College last year. Also happened about 4 years ago, one Elon's worst teams ever came into Boone one Saturday with 5K+ in attendance and they lost. I'm hopeful that the loss will be like the King loss last year and ASU would go on a similar 12-1 run to finish the season last year, but certainly not predicting it. The loss of Butts to injury this year likely hurt our chances of finishing above .500, no inside play or depth. If Capel can get this team to finish 1 or 2 in the north he will have worked magic.

[AshevilleApp2]

I know this is a football board, but what the heck happened to your men's basketball team last night? App had a double digit lead and ended up losing to a (then) 0-15 UNCG.....and at home no less!

Ouch! I hadn't heard this. Maybe we'll get hot in the conference tournament?

[gophoenix]

29 seems high. How did you define "players" in the NFL?

You guys were good at your level in 30's and 1970-1981.

It's in the media guide. There are a lot of free agents that made teams for a season and then stopped. But a lot of drafted players from the 50s-early 80s.

[ElonPride]

EP that is embarrassing. It happens every year. ASU builds a little run, people start to get interested and go to the game, then they lay an egg. It was King College last year. Also happened about 4 years ago, one Elon's worst teams ever came into Boone one Saturday with 5K+ in attendance and they lost. I'm hopeful that the loss will be like the King loss last year and ASU would go on a similar 12-1 run to finish the season last year, but certainly not predicting it. The loss of Butts to injury this year likely hurt our chances of finishing above .500, no inside play or depth. If Capel can get this team to finish 1 or 2 in the north he will have worked magic.

That was a strange loss (both UNCG & King).....but I know how that feels. I think the Elon team you referred to lost to Bluefield College that year, '07 I think?