Can the FBS be this dumb?

[DG Cowboy]

Look at the FCS semi-finalists and tell me this isn't a good argument for a national playoff in the FBS. Who honestly picked any team but, maybe, Delaware to be in the semis when the 20 teams were announced?

Oh yeah, I forgot about all the money in the BCS.

[BlueHenSinfonian]

Look at the FCS semi-finalists and tell me this isn't a good argument for a national playoff in the FBS. Who honestly picked any team but, maybe, Delaware to be in the semis when the 20 teams were announced?

Oh yeah, I forgot about all the money in the BCS.

I picked 'Nova to be there, but other than Delaware that was it. W&M and Montana State suprised me with the early losses, and NDSU has surprised me by making it this far. GaSou is one of the most accomplished teams in the FCS, so I guess their success can never really be a surprise.

[JU_Dolphin]

Playing for a title on the field, as in the FCS, is always the way to go. The winner truly earns it, and I think it is a more enjoyable experience for everyone. That said, I didn't have Villanova or Georgia Southern making it this far. NDSU was also very surprising.

[VUCats02]

But then again, the BCS is doing fine with attendances.....the FCS - not so much. The BCS games keep getting higher and higher TV ratings too.

[JU_Dolphin]

But then again, the BCS is doing fine with attendances.....the FCS - not so much. The BCS games keep getting higher and higher TV ratings too.

Sadly, the BCS is far from dumb. They are accomplishing what they want to, and as you pointed out despite how many people harp about how the championship is "mythical" and that there needs to be playoffs, the ratings continue to rise and attendance for bowls is always good. As long as that continues, changes won't be made anytime soon. They have no reason to.

[theasushow]

Just for fun...using the rankings from the final BCS rankings and the correlating them with the teams in the TSN poll (except for the top 5 seeds) , the quarterfinals would have been like this in the FBS:

Boise State vs. Auburn
UCF vs. Wisconsin

TCU vs. LSU
Oklahoma vs. South Carolina

Final 4 would be:
Boise State vs. Wisconsin
TCU vs. South Carolina

Not a bad final 4, thats the beauty of the playoffs that both Auburn and Oregon would have been defeated in earlier rounds. Obviously UCF wouldn't make the playoffs in reality, but they would be the equivalent #25 ranking that NDSU has.

[VUCats02]

I personally would rather the BCS have a playoff system. I don't know what it is about a bracket but they are just magical. Bowl games don't do much for me, but I still watch the major ones.

If I worked for ESPN or CBS, however, I would be all for the Bowl games. They have been very successful recently.

[49RFootballNow]

Playoffs! PLAYOFFS!

BCS emperors threaten to take their ball away if the rest don't play by their rules:

http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/2010/12/09/jim-delany-warns-non-aq-leagues-dont-expect-more-than-youre/

[art vandelay]

Just for fun...using the rankings from the final BCS rankings and the correlating them with the teams in the TSN poll (except for the top 5 seeds) , the quarterfinals would have been like this in the FBS:

Boise State vs. Auburn
UCF vs. Wisconsin

TCU vs. LSU
Oklahoma vs. South Carolina

Final 4 would be:
Boise State vs. Wisconsin
TCU vs. South Carolina

Not a bad final 4, thats the beauty of the playoffs that both Auburn and Oregon would have been defeated in earlier rounds. Obviously UCF wouldn't make the playoffs in reality, but they would be the equivalent #25 ranking that NDSU has.

dont you mean oregon vs LSU in the quarters

[theasushow]

dont you mean oregon vs LSU in the quarters


um? maybe? isnt delaware the 3 seed (and tcu #3 in bcs) i could be wrong. delaware (3) vs. unh (11) = tcu(3) vs. lsu(11)

oregon would be the equivalent of william and mary (2 seed)

[I-16Bandit]

If I worked for ESPN or CBS, however, I would be all for the Bowl games. They have been very successful recently.

And this is the unfortunate scenario. Like DG Cowboy said... Money.

I almost thought that football was football... But it's more like football is money to many, no matter the outcome. Sad.

[EagleTrump]

And this is the unfortunate scenario. Like DG Cowboy said... Money.

I almost thought that football was football... But it's more like football is money to many, no matter the outcome. Sad.

Unfortunately you're correct. And the reason they have such high attendance is because they can create a better atmosphere because of their money. They can build better stadiums, push more students through the door (thus creating more alumni), and can afford to maintain the logistics of a larger crowd. It's a lot easier to get a crowd there if you have a larger following. If you look at the schools in the FCS that have a higher playoff attendance, they are similar to a BCS school and maybe even considering elevating to that division. I'm more familiar with the SOCON so I'll use that as an example. GSU has fairly high enrollment compared to some other FCS schools. They have lost of alumni and a decent sized stadium. That stadium is full every Saturday (esp. since we're coming out of the dark era) and we travel with a good contigency. Now lets look at Wofford. Some high schools have a higher enrollment and their stadium is about half the size of Paulson. Their attendance is struggling. I wasn't at Saturday's game but I've heard that the stands were 3/4 GSU and from others that it was half and half. In order to increase the number of attendance to games you need to look at the size of the student body, size of alumni, and the support from the community and media. Procuring any of those would cost money and unfortunately in these times, it's not always there...

(sorry if i strayed a little...)

[Old Cat Fan]

And this is the unfortunate scenario. Like DG Cowboy said... Money.

I almost thought that football was football... But it's more like football is money to many, no matter the outcome. Sad.
Lets make a simple analogy
(NCAA=MOB) (TEAMS+STADIUMS=CASINOS.) MOB takes cut of the action, lets Casinos do what they want to generate cash flow.

I would suggest to anyone that can watch the 30on30 show on ESPN about SMU titled Pony Excess do so. In a nutshell it exposes evertything wrong and corrupt with big time college ball. $$$$$$$ = corruption. Nothing has changed and as long as there is big time sponsors and powerfull boosters and network cash all with NCAA getting a cut , there will be a blind eye looking down

[superman7515]

That was a really good show last night.

[VT Wildcat Fan53]

That was a really good show last night.

It was a good show. Then, later in the evening on HBO, the was a great show about the life & times of Vince Lombardi. A truly great, if complicated and, at times, conflicted, leader and coach.

[apaladin]

Just for fun...using the rankings from the final BCS rankings and the correlating them with the teams in the TSN poll (except for the top 5 seeds) , the quarterfinals would have been like this in the FBS:

Boise State vs. Auburn
UCF vs. Wisconsin

TCU vs. LSU
Oklahoma vs. South Carolina

Final 4 would be:
Boise State vs. Wisconsin
TCU vs. South Carolina

Not a bad final 4, thats the beauty of the playoffs that both Auburn and Oregon would have been defeated in earlier rounds. Obviously UCF wouldn't make the playoffs in reality, but they would be the equivalent #25 ranking that NDSU has.

First I doubt SC would have gotten in to a 16 team field being ranked #20 and losing their last game by 39. Ifthey did play Oklahoma they would get beat soundly. IMHO if there was an FBS 16 team playoff neither Auburn or Oregon would make it to the finals.

[JUFan]

Considering that most teams that field crappy teams and sit home every December still make 200K or more from the BCS, why are they in a rush to change it?

Seriously, Western Kentucky can go 2-10 each year and still make money. The Sun Belt conference earned 1.5 million last year from BCS payouts (every conference gets a small slice). That got divided into the 9 teams, which is 160K for them.
Then add in the extra money they make for being a door mat team for bigger schools and it makes perfect sense. They made 800K for playing VaTech in 2008.


App State made 400K for playing Michigan, 750K for playing LSU the following year.

Its hard to compete with that type of money. Bigger schools in FBS can make 4 million in revenue per game, so there is a ton of money to throw around.

[glsjunior]

Sadly, the BCS is far from dumb. They are accomplishing what they want to, and as you pointed out despite how many people harp about how the championship is "mythical" and that there needs to be playoffs, the ratings continue to rise and attendance for bowls is always good. As long as that continues, changes won't be made anytime soon. They have no reason to.

Attendance for the BCS bowls may be good but the rest of the bowls' attendance sucks. Not to mention a regular season NFL game still kills most bowl games.

[Hammerhead]

Sure, the big bowls get decent TV audiences, but just imagine the ratings for a 8 or 16-team playoff with D1-A teams?

Using the current Sagarin ratings, I'd love to see:


1 Oregon vs 8 Boise State
2 Stanford vs 7 Arkansas
3 Auburn vs. 6 Oklahoma
4 TCU vs. 5 Alabama

[jmufan999]

Sadly, the BCS is far from dumb. They are accomplishing what they want to, and as you pointed out despite how many people harp about how the championship is "mythical" and that there needs to be playoffs, the ratings continue to rise and attendance for bowls is always good. As long as that continues, changes won't be made anytime soon. They have no reason to.

THIS.

[TwoFeathers]

Sure, the big bowls get decent TV audiences, but just imagine the ratings for a 8 or 16-team playoff with D1-A teams?

Using the current Sagarin ratings, I'd love to see:


1 Oregon vs 8 Boise State
2 Stanford vs 7 Arkansas
3 Auburn vs. 6 Oklahoma
4 TCU vs. 5 Alabama

As many have probably already stated, it's all about money and politics, and it will probably never happen.