Bethune- Cookman... The Number Five Seed in the 2010 FCS Playoffs

[R.A.]

That's right, I said it!

[umassfan]

I know its late... does that mean your dreaming?

[Humble Steward]

It would be nice, but we really need to finish out the season strong against FAMU. Then we let the committee decide and let everyone debate why or why not we are seeded or not.

Let's Go Wildcats, 10-0 and 1 to go. Trying to be the only undefeated team in the FCS.

[DSUrocks07]

That's right, I said it!

That would be alot considering that even with a 10-0 start there's a chance that they could miss the playoffs entirely xpopcornx

[heath]

BC will need as many home games as possible to have any chance of advancing in playoffs,making the semifinals would be a great year,good luck.

[TypicalTribe]

I don't think it's crazy. If ASU ends up as the #1, I think it would be feasible to have JSU at #4 and BCC at #5. I've seen the committee do stranger things.

[Saint3333]

Hampton all over again. 2003 I believe they were seeded right and got run out of the stadium by UR?

[Humble Steward]

Hampton all over again. 2003 I believe they were seeded right and got run out of the stadium by UR?

Two totally different teams. Two totally different offensive and defensive schemes. You can't compare the two. Just let it all play out. We still have a ball game on Saturday to win. Then the committee will decide. If we bring our "A" game offense along with our plus turnover margin, I expect the Wildcats to be competitive in the playoffs. A different mind set from the players and great coaching staff has put us in the position that we are today. I'm telling you, there is something special going on in Daytona Beach these days and I am proud to be a Mighty Wildcat xsmileyclapx.

[WileECoyote06]

Sorry man, I'm not seeing it. The MEAC shouldn't get a seed in the playoffs until we win a doggone game. And if we want a better shot at winning; the commissioner needs to demand that the playoffs eliminate pod seeding and go back to traditional seeding.

But that ain't going to happen; because our commissioner wants to play in the Legacy Bowl.

[superman7515]

With their modified GPI being so low compared to other teams, I don't think they'd get seeded despite their record.

[R.A.]

Undefeated Automatic Bid Conference... and you don't think they will be seeded??

[R.A.]

I know its late... does that mean your dreaming?

Talk to me after Sunday's selection show buddy.

[R.A.]

Hampton all over again. 2003 I believe they were seeded right and got run out of the stadium by UR?

That was the 2005 season.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_NCAA_Division_I-AA_football_season

[Big Dawg]

They won't get a 5 seed...

[WrenFGun]

That's right, I said it!

Pass the drugs.

[FargoBison]

Maybe if EWU, MT St, SFA, UNI and William and Mary all lost but how likely is that?

[Humble Steward]

They won't get a 5 seed...

You are probably right. We still have to beat the Rattlers. This game is all about mindset when it comes to FAMU. If the Wildcats are fortunate enough to win this weekend, I expect you will see a confident team coming into the playoffs. Confident but not cocky. I think everyone knows that the MEAC needs to win some playoff games to garner some overall respect for the conference. However, I don't think this team is worried about the polls or a seed. Just the "W"xnodx.

[MacThor]

Two totally different teams. Two totally different offensive and defensive schemes. You can't compare the two. Just let it all play out. We still have a ball game on Saturday to win. Then the committee will decide. If we bring our "A" game offense along with our plus turnover margin, I expect the Wildcats to be competitive in the playoffs. A different mind set from the players and great coaching staff has put us in the position that we are today. I'm telling you, there is something special going on in Daytona Beach these days and I am proud to be a Mighty Wildcat xsmileyclapx.

I think he's saying if Hampton got a seed, why not B-C? Especially if B-C is a better team.

I think it could happen. Not likely. The committee has historically awarded at-larges based on GPI-like analysis, and seeds based on overall record.

[RabidRabbit]

BCC will be the only undefeated FCS school. Hell, give them the single guaranteed home game. If they and the #4 seed win, they still will have to hit the road for their second game.

It's a shame that the SoCon/ Southern MEAC have so much overlap, that the MEAC participant is almost guaranteed to be sent to App St/ Ga Southern when those teams are in.

Of course, could readily go the true 20 team seeding, and the MEAC champ/runner-up are one of the bottom 4. Joins NEC, Big South, and Patriot champs as the first round gamers, and with that competition, a FLA team should have a good chance of hosting. Of course this really hurts the opportunity to get 5 teams of the CAA and the 3 of the Big Sky so don't play their first games without multiple flights.

[ODUsmitty]

BCC is not even worthy of a playoff spot, much less a seed.

The MEAC league is no different than the Pioneer, except that the PFL has two legitimate teams in Dayton and Jacksonville, and their bands don't play during the opposing team's offensive possessions.

The auto-bid is a sham, and the league is only getting worse.......adding an absolutely atrocious Savannah State team will surely solidify the MEAC's position as the worst 1-AA league in the land. Congratulations on your continued lack of relevance in the college football world.

[WestCoastAggie]

BCC is not even worthy of a playoff spot, much less a seed.

The MEAC league is no different than the Pioneer, except that the PFL has two legitimate teams in Dayton and Jacksonville, and their bands don't play during the opposing team's offensive possessions.

The auto-bid is a sham, and the league is only getting worse.......adding an absolutely atrocious Savannah State team will surely solidify the MEAC's position as the worst 1-AA league in the land. Congratulations on your continued lack of relevance in the college football world.

Let me guess, you must feel that there is some sort of affirmative action going on, huh?

What did anyone or any school from the MEAC do to you to warrant such a negative post?

There's one thing to be critical but it's another thing to sound almost hateful.

[Big Dawg]

BCC is not even worthy of a playoff spot, much less a seed.

The MEAC league is no different than the Pioneer, except that the PFL has two legitimate teams in Dayton and Jacksonville, and their bands don't play during the opposing team's offensive possessions.

The auto-bid is a sham, and the league is only getting worse.......adding an absolutely atrocious Savannah State team will surely solidify the MEAC's position as the worst 1-AA league in the land. Congratulations on your continued lack of relevance in the college football world.

Dumbest post of 2010...congrats buddy

Yeah, a team goes 10-0 and are apart of the FCS and they're not worthy of a playoff spot...no, your reasoning makes so much sense...

[WileECoyote06]

Let me guess, you must feel that there is some sort of affirmative action going on, huh?

What did anyone or any school from the MEAC do to you to warrant such a negative post?

There's one thing to be critical but it's another thing to sound almost hateful.

Wasn't any 'almost' about it.

Oh and we aren't I-AA anymore. Haven't been for several years.

[Humble Steward]

BCC is not even worthy of a playoff spot, much less a seed.

The MEAC league is no different than the Pioneer, except that the PFL has two legitimate teams in Dayton and Jacksonville, and their bands don't play during the opposing team's offensive possessions.

The auto-bid is a sham, and the league is only getting worse.......adding an absolutely atrocious Savannah State team will surely solidify the MEAC's position as the worst 1-AA league in the land. Congratulations on your continued lack of relevance in the college football world.

Wow, sometimes it's not worth even responding. And this is one of those timesxnonox.

[UNIFanSince1983]

Yeah I don't know what he was talking about. Dayton and Jacksonville are less legitimate teams than BCC or SCST. I think if BCC wins against FAMU they should definitely get the #5 seed. They would be deserving of the seed.

[heath]

BCC is not even worthy of a playoff spot, much less a seed.

The MEAC league is no different than the Pioneer, except that the PFL has two legitimate teams in Dayton and Jacksonville, and their bands don't play during the opposing team's offensive possessions.

The auto-bid is a sham, and the league is only getting worse.......adding an absolutely atrocious Savannah State team will surely solidify the MEAC's position as the worst 1-AA league in the land. Congratulations on your continued lack of relevance in the college football world.
Boy,thats harsh Smitty. Many feel the same as you do,but let them in and take their bumps like other pretenders.You remember SFA last year in the playoffs? Lucky to win the 1st,then got crushed xasswhipxin the next round.It really depends on the brackets,but thats why they play the game.

[FargoBison]

BCU is worthy of a playoff spot, my God people. The MEAC is down but lets not go crazy, it was just a year ago when the MEAC champ gave a powerful FCS program a big scare. They have earned the right to compete in FCS postseason play.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Why not make them a seed?

They'd be 11-0, the only undefeated team in the field.

They'd be guaranteed one home game, their second-round game. If the No. 4 seed won, then they'd play on the road. A mild advantage, but not a humungous one.

A good reward for an UNDEFEATED season. Why give it to an 8-3 CAA team instead?

Besides, what team would NOT want to go to Daytona beach in December? xlolx

[WestCoastAggie]

BCU is worthy of a playoff spot, my God people. The MEAC is down but lets not go crazy, it was just a year ago when the MEAC champ gave a powerful FCS program a big scare. They have earned the right to compete in FCS postseason play.

Disregarding ODUSmitty's ignorant comment, the MEAC Officials (Presidents/Chancellors and Dennis "Potted Plant" Thomas) must either jump all into the FCS playoffs and mandate a 7 or 8 game schedule and encourage teams to schedule teams from the "power" conferences and win a few of them OR jump all into the Legacy Bowl with the SWAC and give up our AQ to the PFL.

This yearly discussion of the MEAC's worthiness for At-Large bids or a seed is beating a dead horse honestly.

[TypicalTribe]

Disregarding ODUSmitty's ignorant comment, the MEAC Officials (Presidents/Chancellors and Dennis "Potted Plant" Thomas) must either jump all into the FCS playoffs and mandate a 7 or 8 game schedule and encourage teams to schedule teams from the "power" conferences and win a few of them OR jump all into the Legacy Bowl with the SWAC and give up our AQ to the PFL.

This yearly discussion of the MEAC's worthiness for At-Large bids or a seed is beating a dead horse honestly.

Amen

[emilimo701]

With their modified GPI being so low compared to other teams, I don't think they'd get seeded despite their record.

The committee doesn't look at GPI/rankings/polls in selecting/seeding the teams

[WestCoastAggie]

The committee doesn't look at GPI/rankings/polls in selecting/seeding the teams

Supposedly they dont but I keep hearing that they do look at it from people who are "in the know".

It's confusing honestly.

[WileECoyote06]

Disregarding ODUSmitty's ignorant comment, the MEAC Officials (Presidents/Chancellors and Dennis "Potted Plant" Thomas) must either jump all into the FCS playoffs and mandate a 7 or 8 game schedule and encourage teams to schedule teams from the "power" conferences and win a few of them OR jump all into the Legacy Bowl with the SWAC and give up our AQ to the PFL.

This yearly discussion of the MEAC's worthiness for At-Large bids or a seed is beating a dead horse honestly.

Well one of the two is gonna happen.

[emilimo701]

Why not make them a seed?

They'd be 11-0, the only undefeated team in the field.

They'd be guaranteed one home game, their second-round game. If the No. 4 seed won, then they'd play on the road. A mild advantage, but not a humungous one.

A good reward for an UNDEFEATED season. Why give it to an 8-3 CAA team instead?

Besides, what team would NOT want to go to Daytona beach in December? xlolx

cuz the CAA is tha bomb diggity and William & Mary has a much better shot at the national championship! But if W&M loses next week, i'd say SFA is still next in line for the #5 over Bethune-Cookman. We shall see though

[WestCoastAggie]

cuz the CAA is tha bomb diggity and William & Mary has a much better shot at the national championship! But if W&M loses next week, i'd say SFA is still next in line for the #5 over Bethune-Cookman. We shall see though

Bomb-diggity???

We gotta catch you up on the 2010 slang.

Appropiate term would be "y'all can't touch the CAA's Swag."

[emilimo701]

Bomb-diggity???

We gotta catch you up on the 2010 slang.

Appropiate term would be "y'all can't touch the CAA's Swag."

Word, yo! lol

[ODUsmitty]

NCAA Men's Football - Conference Rankings (2010-2011)


Only games against Division I opponents are counted.
Rankings update every 5 mins.
Last updated - Wed Nov 17 12:01:09 PST 2010

Rank Conference (Teams) All Non-Conf Index Sos Sos Rk
1 Southeastern 12 77-46 (63%) 36-5 (88%) 55.27 49.06 1
2 Big 12 12 75-47 (61%) 36-8 (82%) 53.55 48.53 2
3 Big Ten 11 68-41 (62%) 35-8 (81%) 53.20 46.78 4
4 Pacific-10 10 55-43 (56%) 21-9 (70%) 49.19 46.87 3
5 Independents 3 18-12 (60%) 17-11 (61%) 46.59 42.70 9
6 Atlantic Coast 12 66-54 (55%) 27-15 (64%) 46.15 45.02 5
7 Western Athletic 9 46-42 (52%) 21-17 (55%) 45.60 43.23 7
8 Big East 8 41-33 (55%) 23-15 (61%) 44.14 43.28 6
9 Mountain West 9 46-48 (49%) 17-19 (47%) 43.76 42.89 8
10 Conference USA 12 57-64 (47%) 20-27 (43%) 38.93 39.47 10

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11 Mid-American 13 56-78 (42%) 15-37 (29%) 36.30 38.00 11
12 Sun Belt 9 31-56 (36%) 4-29 (12%) 31.96 34.95 12
13 fcs Big Sky 9 39-45 (46%) 6-12 (33%) 16.94 15.78 14
14 fcs Southern 9 43-42 (51%) 18-17 (51%) 16.87 16.01 13
15 fcs Colonial 12 53-46 (54%) 18-11 (62%) 16.45 15.02 18
16 fcs Ivy League 8 38-34 (53%) 14-10 (58%) 16.10 15.06 17
17 fcs Missouri Valley 9 43-45 (49%) 23-25 (48%) 16.10 15.39 15
18 fcs Southland 8 35-40 (47%) 11-16 (41%) 15.36 14.82 19
19 fcs Ohio Valley 9 40-48 (45%) 15-23 (39%) 15.15 14.72 20
20 fcs Northeast 8 37-41 (47%) 19-23 (45%) 15.11 15.36 16

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21 fcs Southwestern Athletic 10 44-48 (48%) 3-7 (30%) 14.65 14.39 21
22 fcs Great West 5 21-27 (44%) 17-23 (43%) 14.51 14.13 22
23 fcs Mid-Eastern Athletic 10 39-52 (43%) 7-20 (26%) 14.14 13.72 25
24 fcs Pioneer League 10 43-53 (45%) 11-21 (34%) 14.13 14.10 23
25 fcs Patriot League 7 30-39 (43%) 12-21 (36%) 13.47 13.84 24
26 fcs Big South 6 22-33 (40%) 14-25 (36%) 12.73 12.59 26
27 fcs Independents (I-AA) 6 20-20 (50%) 18-18 (50%) 12.12 12.00 27

Not hateful wheh you claim the MEAC is bad and similar to the Pioneer League and back it up with facts.
I'd say the same about the Big South this year, yet their top teams are not arguing for a seeded position in the playoffs.

When a week after ODU dominated HU at HU and shuts it down for the entire 2nd half, BCC comes in and struggles at the same venue. ODU is NOT playoff worthy, and my conclusion after seeing a common opponent on consecutive weeks is that BCC is not either, much less seed-worthy.

If using RPI and common opponents on consecutive weeks is "ignorant" in your book, then so be it. My comment about the bands was related to the RUDENESS of the HU band playing through our offensive possessions, even though our coach chose not to complain about it to the officials.

[WestCoastAggie]

NCAA Men's Football - Conference Rankings (2010-2011)


Only games against Division I opponents are counted.
Rankings update every 5 mins.
Last updated - Wed Nov 17 12:01:09 PST 2010

Rank Conference (Teams) All Non-Conf Index Sos Sos Rk
1 Southeastern 12 77-46 (63%) 36-5 (88%) 55.27 49.06 1
2 Big 12 12 75-47 (61%) 36-8 (82%) 53.55 48.53 2
3 Big Ten 11 68-41 (62%) 35-8 (81%) 53.20 46.78 4
4 Pacific-10 10 55-43 (56%) 21-9 (70%) 49.19 46.87 3
5 Independents 3 18-12 (60%) 17-11 (61%) 46.59 42.70 9
6 Atlantic Coast 12 66-54 (55%) 27-15 (64%) 46.15 45.02 5
7 Western Athletic 9 46-42 (52%) 21-17 (55%) 45.60 43.23 7
8 Big East 8 41-33 (55%) 23-15 (61%) 44.14 43.28 6
9 Mountain West 9 46-48 (49%) 17-19 (47%) 43.76 42.89 8
10 Conference USA 12 57-64 (47%) 20-27 (43%) 38.93 39.47 10

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11 Mid-American 13 56-78 (42%) 15-37 (29%) 36.30 38.00 11
12 Sun Belt 9 31-56 (36%) 4-29 (12%) 31.96 34.95 12
13 fcs Big Sky 9 39-45 (46%) 6-12 (33%) 16.94 15.78 14
14 fcs Southern 9 43-42 (51%) 18-17 (51%) 16.87 16.01 13
15 fcs Colonial 12 53-46 (54%) 18-11 (62%) 16.45 15.02 18
16 fcs Ivy League 8 38-34 (53%) 14-10 (58%) 16.10 15.06 17
17 fcs Missouri Valley 9 43-45 (49%) 23-25 (48%) 16.10 15.39 15
18 fcs Southland 8 35-40 (47%) 11-16 (41%) 15.36 14.82 19
19 fcs Ohio Valley 9 40-48 (45%) 15-23 (39%) 15.15 14.72 20
20 fcs Northeast 8 37-41 (47%) 19-23 (45%) 15.11 15.36 16

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21 fcs Southwestern Athletic 10 44-48 (48%) 3-7 (30%) 14.65 14.39 21
22 fcs Great West 5 21-27 (44%) 17-23 (43%) 14.51 14.13 22
23 fcs Mid-Eastern Athletic 10 39-52 (43%) 7-20 (26%) 14.14 13.72 25
24 fcs Pioneer League 10 43-53 (45%) 11-21 (34%) 14.13 14.10 23
25 fcs Patriot League 7 30-39 (43%) 12-21 (36%) 13.47 13.84 24
26 fcs Big South 6 22-33 (40%) 14-25 (36%) 12.73 12.59 26
27 fcs Independents (I-AA) 6 20-20 (50%) 18-18 (50%) 12.12 12.00 27

Not hateful wheh you claim the MEAC is bad and similar to the Pioneer League and back it up with facts.
I'd say the same about the Big South this year, yet their top teams are not arguing for a seeded position in the playoffs.

When a week after ODU dominated HU at HU and shuts it down for the entire 2nd half, BCC comes in and struggles at the same venue. ODU is NOT playoff worthy, and my conclusion after seeing a common opponent on consecutive weeks is that BCC is not either, much less seed-worthy.

If using RPI and common opponents on consecutive weeks is "ignorant" in your book, then so be it. My comment about the bands was related to the RUDENESS of the HU band playing through our offensive possessions, even though our coach chose not to complain about it to the officials.

It's how you say things that counts sir.

There are proper ways to address your concerns. The way you wrote that previous comment can get the refs on all of us. You can be constructively critical but rudeness just doesn't cut it around these parts. And trust me, MANY on AGS.com are critical of the MEAC's OOC.

BTW: The MEAC has fined FAMU's band for similar transgressions (sp.) this season. So the MEAC is attempting to handle the bands.

[Aho_Old_Guy]

Pass the drugs.

I'm going with this.

Sorry, MEAC.

I'm one of your staunchest defenders but a seed (and a bye) ain't gonna happen. Be thankful if you get two in, make some noise this year, and folks may give you the benefit of the doubt next year.

As it stands right now it looks as if 8 playoff teams may end up with an SoS in the bottom 25% of the rankings.

I'm not so sure that is a good way to run this railroad, folks.

[appstate38]

No dog in this fight, but if BCC doesn't get seeded then it could be a long road trip to alot colder climates than Daytona Beach. Hope your fellas are ready. Ever Been to Missoula this time of year????xxmasx

[ODUsmitty]

It's how you say things that counts sir.

There are proper ways to address your concerns. The way you wrote that previous comment can get the refs on all of us. You can be constructively critical but rudeness just doesn't cut it around these parts. And trust me, MANY on AGS.com are critical of the MEAC's OOC.

BTW: The MEAC has fined FAMU's band for similar transgressions (sp.) this season. So the MEAC is attempting to handle the bands.

I will concede my initial comments were strong; however, it is amazing how the very same guy who pulled the race card in the first sentence of his reply (without any suggestion of an "affirmative action" motive in my post) tries now to be the guy to teach me to be constructively critical, less rude, and more eloquent in expressing my concerns. To me, that crosses the border of being hypocritical.

Its not what you say, at times; it how someone else interprets your message through the filter of bias the bring with them. Kind sir, I'd recommend looking in the mirror when calling someone else out for stating an opinion (which by the way, was backed up with facts), particularly when you begin to ascribe nonexistent motives to those opinions with which you do not agree.

[UNH72Plus]

As I posted in another thread, I just don't see it. BCC has 1 quality win against SC State, 2 OOC FCS wins against 1-9 teams, 1 win against Edward Waters (whoever they are) that have played and lost 4 games while being out scored 176-31, and 6 wins against league opponents, none of whom have a wiining record and who have a combined OOC record of 4-13, and 3 of the 4 wins were against D-II opponents (pardon the run-on sentence). If they beat FAMU this week, maybe give them a home game, but a seed - no way.

[caribbeanhen]

For BIg Dawg

sure they deserve a playoff spot, but be thankful they play in a historically weak conference, how do you think any MEAC team would fare if the played in the CAA?
I am sure you match up well against Towson and will give you the benifit of the doubt, toss in a Div 2/NAIA cupcake and you got 3 sure wins, after that it would BE doubtful you get to 4 wins.
You want some respect, go out and beat someone outside the MEAC in the first round of the playoffs... You want to know a secret, I'll be rooting for you to do so

good luck

[Mikeyosef]

Okay, I know all about SOS, etc. but you guys who keep saying BC won't be NC contenders, don't deserve a seed..all because of their weak conference, obviously haven't been playing SC State in the playoffs. Coming out of MEAC, SCS is a great team with a great coach. I hated seeing that we were playing them last year in the first round. That game was probably 50/50 in terms of potential outcome and I was just happy to get the win.

I watched a little of the BC game that blacked out against A&T (I know, a lousy team) and I think right now BC is a better team than SCS was last year or the year before.

Do they deserve a 5 seed....don't know but honestly it wouldn't bother me.

[R.A.]

BCU is worthy of a playoff spot, my God people. The MEAC is down but lets not go crazy, it was just a year ago when the MEAC champ gave a powerful FCS program a big scare. They have earned the right to compete in FCS postseason play.

And that's the key word... EARNED!

We went years without an automatic bid into the playoffs. Through time and competitive football, we have earned our right to have an automatic bid.

[R.A.]

Disregarding ODUSmitty's ignorant comment, the MEAC Officials (Presidents/Chancellors and Dennis "Potted Plant" Thomas) must either jump all into the FCS playoffs and mandate a 7 or 8 game schedule and encourage teams to schedule teams from the "power" conferences and win a few of them OR jump all into the Legacy Bowl with the SWAC and give up our AQ to the PFL.

This yearly discussion of the MEAC's worthiness for At-Large bids or a seed is beating a dead horse honestly.

Man, I hate this Legacy Bowl mess. Willie Jeffries, Joe Taylor, and Billy Joe, didn't build Football powers, just to give away our playoff bid! Two schools have even said that they are against giving up the bid... FAMU & SCSU. WHy is our Commissioner pushing this mess, when Presidents have come out and said no??

This Mis-Education of the Negro. Self Segregation mess is frustrating.

[R.A.]

Okay, I know all about SOS, etc. but you guys who keep saying BC won't be NC contenders, don't deserve a seed..all because of their weak conference, obviously haven't been playing SC State in the playoffs. Coming out of MEAC, SCS is a great team with a great coach. I hated seeing that we were playing them last year in the first round. That game was probably 50/50 in terms of potential outcome and I was just happy to get the win.

I watched a little of the BC game that blacked out against A&T (I know, a lousy team) and I think right now BC is a better team than SCS was last year or the year before.

Do they deserve a 5 seed....don't know but honestly it wouldn't bother me.

Agreed.

[YoUDeeMan]

I will concede my initial comments were strong; however, it is amazing how the very same guy who pulled the race card in the first sentence of his reply (without any suggestion of an "affirmative action" motive in my post) tries now to be the guy to teach me to be constructively critical, less rude, and more eloquent in expressing my concerns. To me, that crosses the border of being hypocritical.

Its not what you say, at times; it how someone else interprets your message through the filter of bias the bring with them. Kind sir, I'd recommend looking in the mirror when calling someone else out for stating an opinion (which by the way, was backed up with facts), particularly when you begin to ascribe nonexistent motives to those opinions with which you do not agree.

Well said regarding his response, but you were a bit strong in your original post. xnodx

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

Assuming these teams win (App. State has pretty much locked up a seed) these are the top 5 seeds...
1. UD
2. ASU
3. EWU
4. SFA
5. Jax State

If any of these teams (other than App.) loses I think BCC gets a seed.

[YoUDeeMan]

BTW: The MEAC has fined FAMU's band for similar transgressions (sp.) this season. So the MEAC is attempting to handle the bands.

WTF is "trying to handle the bands?" xeyebrowx

Is the MEAC a United Nations peacekeeping force? The schools, band directors, and the band members should be "handling" themselves. They are there to support a football team...but you wouldn't know it.

Cripes, even the band members don't respect their own MEAC football teams. xlolx

[FargoBison]

Assuming these teams win (App. State has pretty much locked up a seed) these are the top 5 seeds...
1. UD
2. ASU
3. EWU
4. SFA
5. Jax State

If any of these teams (other than App.) loses I think BCC gets a seed.

I think MSU could make a strong case for a seed if they beat Montana.

[TypicalTribe]

Assuming these teams win (App. State has pretty much locked up a seed) these are the top 5 seeds...
1. UD
2. ASU
3. EWU
4. SFA
5. Jax State

If any of these teams (other than App.) loses I think BCC gets a seed.

Since all the first-round games are likely to be on the east coast, I think it makes sense for JSU to not be seeded #5 to take advantage of a 2nd round matchup against a SoCon team or SEMO. Also, from a geographic perspective, makes sense for JSU to be #3 for a potential semifinal in Boone.

[ODUsmitty]

SC State's performance today supported my MEAC comments. When BethuneCookman flops next week, who will have the cojones to say the Meac deserved any consideration in this year's playoffs??

Karma is a *****, and she is smacking you right upside the head.

[WestCoastAggie]

SC State's performance today supported my MEAC comments. When BethuneCookman flops next week, who will have the cojones to say the Meac deserved any consideration in this year's playoffs??

Karma is a *****, and she is smacking you right upside the head.

What did the conference do as a whole to deserve those comments?

[ODUsmitty]

nothing this year, and I mean that absolutely literally.......

[WestCoastAggie]

harsh.

[ODUsmitty]

What's harsh is the omission of more deserving teams from the Pioneer and CAA to allow teams as weak as SC State into the playoffs as an at-large.

[TwoFeathers]

Let's not forget that Bethune-Cookman received a handful of #1 votes in the polls at the end of the season... ;)

[WestCoastAggie]

What's harsh is the omission of more deserving teams from the Pioneer and CAA to allow teams as weak as SC State into the playoffs as an at-large.

So should the NCAA go to a system that is used on the Div-2 level?

[CAAisBOSS]

pioneer??????? sorry but that doesnt help the argument... maybe for socon mvfc bsc... but pioneer? no

[umassfan]

That's right, I said it!

I forgot to ask you... What happened to your number 5 seed? xlolx

[AppMAN04]

pioneer??????? sorry but that doesnt help the argument... maybe for socon mvfc bsc... but pioneer? no

Agree!! I hope Bethune wins to be honest.. They had a good season and I think they belonged in the playoffs.. SCSU bit off more than they could chew with GSU and they were really riding the fact that they had been the last couple of years.. Playing any SOCON team is going to be tough for anyone, even the mighty CAA.

[UNHFan]

I dont mean to switch this thread... but any fan of MEAC or SWA How can the sports programs be so low level athletically and have the horrific GSR rates that they have. the best MEAC school has a 45 percent GSR.. that would probably mean suspension from the CAA

I dont mean to be an #$&hole but whats the deal?? some schools are as low as 27 %

GSR (Graduation Success Rate)

Please educate me rather then yell at me if you can

Also on a positive note both conferences show the highest increase in GSR in the latest report so keep up the good work :) any websites teaching the history of the 2 conferences?

[TwoFeathers]

UNH better look out for Bethune-Cookman. A few voters thought they were the #1 team in the country. How does UNH play in the sunshine??? ;)

[UNHFan]

Just Peachy! UNH 51-14 Though I do have a salt shaker ready to eat my hat if we lose!!! (Laughing)

[UNHFan]

Also just for the heck of it I went to ticketmaster for tickets... as of Sunday 9:30 AM I could have gotten Section C 4th row (Center section) how can this be?

[TwoFeathers]

Also just for the heck of it I went to ticketmaster for tickets... as of Sunday 9:30 AM I could have gotten Section C 4th row (Center section) how can this be?

4th row is pretty low, no???

[UNHFan]

4th row is pretty low, no???

Yeah true... those are bad seats when you have a track(Looks like BC does) around the football field.. UNH Stadium they are great seats even though we have a track surrounding a field the section is raised up so your far back but not blocked

[R.A.]

I forgot to ask you... What happened to your number 5 seed? xlolx


FAMU.

[TwoFeathers]

Where's the UNH vs. BC thread anyway?

[GaSouthern]

Unless BC wins the championship this year by a large amount then I can't see a reason to give the swac/meac conferences any credit.

I stood up for SCSU all week and feel like an idiot for talking them up. GSU is a good team but should not have blown out a playoff team like that especially when we lost the most important player in the 1st Q.

[Humble Steward]

I just hope we can keep the score downxpopcornx.

[Bigmoneymike]

Its funny how this conversations happens at all levels of football. I guess thats what makes football great. One thing that annoys me is this whole the band want stop playing when we have the ball. Really? I mean are we at a football game or a tennis match. Maybe everyone should just be be silent during the whole game. I find that ridiculous.

[Model Citizen]

One thing that annoys me is this whole the band want stop playing when we have the ball.

Apparently, there's a rule against letting the band play when the visiting team's quarterback is calling signals. I have seen a "band warning." Must fall under the sideline warning rule. Potential of a penalty for repeat offenses.

When the home team has the ball, I think it's just common sense for fans not to mess with the qb.

[Big Dawg]

Unless BC wins the championship this year by a large amount then I can't see a reason to give the swac/meac conferences any credit.

I stood up for SCSU all week and feel like an idiot for talking them up. GSU is a good team but should not have blown out a playoff team like that especially when we lost the most important player in the 1st Q.

That doesn't make any sense...now MEAC schools have to win a championshp...what does that say about the other conferences(not named SoCon or CAA) who haven't won National Titles n a while.

If BCU wins on Saturday, then they should receive respect...especially after the horrible seaasons they had prior to this year.

I just don't see the reasoning for saying ANY conference doesn't deserve an autobid.

[WSBE]

I know this UNH team very well. I don't care what conference they are playing...they won't score more than 35 points...they didn't score over 40 once this year...even against the weakest opponents. Against the speed of this BCU team....I really can't see UNH moving the ball with any ease...their offense is OK but is not electric at all. They do not have a power running game & their passing attack is pedestrian. They have struggled in many games against good competition & if Toman is not 100% or "off" like he can be...25+ points will be a challenge. This comes down to UNH defense against BCU offense.....can UNH stop them, force turnovers, contain the QB, etc. For those who appreciate good defense....UNH has only given up more than 20 points twice this year (24 & 25) & that's in the CAA. This is a very good defense & great to watch.....the unknown to me is how the BCU offense & special teams perfrom. Can't wait.

[R.A.]

I dont mean to switch this thread... but any fan of MEAC or SWA How can the sports programs be so low level athletically and have the horrific GSR rates that they have. the best MEAC school has a 45 percent GSR.. that would probably mean suspension from the CAA

I dont mean to be an #$&hole but whats the deal?? some schools are as low as 27 %

GSR (Graduation Success Rate)

Please educate me rather then yell at me if you can

Also on a positive note both conferences show the highest increase in GSR in the latest report so keep up the good work :) any websites teaching the history of the 2 conferences?

Provide the statistics to back up you statements please.

[Gordon Shumway]

Provide the statistics to back up you statements please.

Any data you need on Graduation Ruccess Rate is here in a searchable database. More information than you ever cared to know.xlolx

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/newmedia/public/rates/index.html

[Side Judge]

That doesn't make any sense...now MEAC schools have to win a championshp...what does that say about the other conferences(not named SoCon or CAA) who haven't won National Titles n a while.

If BCU wins on Saturday, then they should receive respect...especially after the horrible seaasons they had prior to this year.

I just don't see the reasoning for saying ANY conference doesn't deserve an autobid.

Ah the beauty of FCS playoffs - win or shut up. BCU's record has earned it a home game against a quality CAA opponent, now they have to step up and represent for the MEAC. There's no point in simply "putting a scare" into UNH - they have to win. Otherwise I think the MEAC regresses to being simply an auto-qualifier conference, especially with SC State's result...

[Humble Steward]

I know this UNH team very well. I don't care what conference they are playing...they won't score more than 35 points...they didn't score over 40 once this year...even against the weakest opponents. Against the speed of this BCU team....I really can't see UNH moving the ball with any ease...their offense is OK but is not electric at all. They do not have a power running game & their passing attack is pedestrian. They have struggled in many games against good competition & if Toman is not 100% or "off" like he can be...25+ points will be a challenge. This comes down to UNH defense against BCU offense.....can UNH stop them, force turnovers, contain the QB, etc. For those who appreciate good defense....UNH has only given up more than 20 points twice this year (24 & 25) & that's in the CAA. This is a very good defense & great to watch.....the unknown to me is how the BCU offense & special teams perfrom. Can't wait.

Now this is what you call a true analysis. What a great postxsmileyclapx.

[YoUDeeMan]

Its funny how this conversations happens at all levels of football. I guess thats what makes football great. One thing that annoys me is this whole the band want stop playing when we have the ball. Really? I mean are we at a football game or a tennis match. Maybe everyone should just be be silent during the whole game. I find that ridiculous.

Great idea. Why not allow teams to pump in random noise? Hey, how about playing the roar of jet engines while your opponent lines up? Or what about letting the speakers play 150 decibel farts during the snap count...you could have fans pay $1 to have their farts recorded and played throughout the opponents' offensive plays. Imagine all the chili-based tailgates that could inspire!

I mean, what is it, a tennis match or something? xcoffeex

[UNHWildCats]

Just Peachy! UNH 51-14 Though I do have a salt shaker ready to eat my hat if we lose!!! (Laughing)
your gonna get eaten alive for that prediction. Trust me, I know from experience.

[bullseye44]

your gonna get eaten alive for that prediction. Trust me, I know from experience.

You're right - he's going to be really embarrassed when UNH actually wins 70-0. :-)

[Panther88]

your gonna get eaten alive for that prediction. Trust me, I know from experience.

Wrong. I think it's a foregone conclusion that BCU will lose by 40+ easily.

[Humble Steward]

Based on these comments, I just hope we keep the score downxnodx.

[UNHFootballAlum]

This will be a close game and not the blow out many are predicting. People made those same predictions the past two yrs about SCSU against App St

[Panther88]

BCU doesn't possess any semblance of a defense or special teams. lol Even the "gimmicky" offense is questionable, IMO. :) Enjoy your pre-victory and try to keep the score respectable. :D

[ODUsmitty]

Bethune-Cookman really impressed at home today, losing by 25 to UNH.

Combining the horrific effort provided by SC State last week, the MEAC's best teams lost by a combined score of 86-36 in these playoffs.

Many of you called me 'just plain mean' and worse after I questioned the MEAC's deserving of the automatic bid and the wildly optimistic discussion of BC actually getting a seed.

The prosecution rests. Maybe the MEAC will upgrade their product (and I hope so); but until then, the best route is for a guaranteed money 'bowl' at year's end. Provides funding for MEAC programs that appear to really need it, and would open up the playoffs to those squads that actually deserve to be there.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/SarasotaFlorida/bazedunk.gif

[Wildcat80]

You're right - he's going to be really embarrassed when UNH actually wins 70-0. :-)

It coulda/shoulda been 60 to 14 with different refs.

[UNHFan]

My Hat is intact !!!! and salt shaker is back on the table not a drop spilled!! UNH UNH!!!

[DSUrocks07]

xlmaox
xlmaox
xlmaox

[WestCoastAggie]

Bethune-Cookman really impressed at home today, losing by 25 to UNH.

Combining the horrific effort provided by SC State last week, the MEAC's best teams lost by a combined score of 86-36 in these playoffs.

Many of you called me 'just plain mean' and worse after I questioned the MEAC's deserving of the automatic bid and the wildly optimistic discussion of BC actually getting a seed.

The prosecution rests. Maybe the MEAC will upgrade their product (and I hope so); but until then, the best route is for a guaranteed money 'bowl' at year's end. Provides funding for MEAC programs that appear to really need it, and would open up the playoffs to those squads that actually deserve to be there.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/SarasotaFlorida/bazedunk.gif

+1

[4th and What?]

Bethune-Cookman really impressed at home today, losing by 25 to UNH.

Combining the horrific effort provided by SC State last week, the MEAC's best teams lost by a combined score of 86-36 in these playoffs.

Many of you called me 'just plain mean' and worse after I questioned the MEAC's deserving of the automatic bid and the wildly optimistic discussion of BC actually getting a seed.

The prosecution rests. Maybe the MEAC will upgrade their product (and I hope so); but until then, the best route is for a guaranteed money 'bowl' at year's end. Provides funding for MEAC programs that appear to really need it, and would open up the playoffs to those squads that actually deserve to be there.


I'm glad the NEC, Big South, and MEAC got autobids. It will help them improve their product. I would agree that the at large from the MEAC was a little silly, with such a weak OOC schedule for the entire conference, but Liberty, Jacksonville, or Dayton didn't do anything else to deserve a bid over them. I'd rather let a team or two into the playoffs that might not deserve it rather than leave a team home that does deserve to be there (W&M last year).

[WestCoastAggie]

Yeah, the MEAC hasn't improved its Athletic product in over a Decade. I don't see it improving anytime soon sadly.

[UNHFan]

Listen dont take all the crap and trash talk on this site so serious!!! I think everyone wants FCS to do well! So right now yeah CAA Southern ect.. and few other big boys. But!!! Its going to change the smaller teams are expanding and gaining ground at a pace that truly amazes me... People I have zero connection to Stony Brook!! I lived on LI 20 years ago had friends who went to Stony Brook. Joke then! Now I go and visit them?? Its part of the weekend agenda!! WOW!!!! was I impressed. FCS is just going to get better and better!

[MacThor]

I'm glad the NEC, Big South, and MEAC got autobids. It will help them improve their product. I would agree that the at large from the MEAC was a little silly, with such a weak OOC schedule for the entire conference, but Liberty, Jacksonville, or Dayton didn't do anything else to deserve a bid over them. I'd rather let a team or two into the playoffs that might not deserve it rather than leave a team home that does deserve to be there (W&M last year).

Huh? W&M went to the final four last year.

[Big Dawg]

Yeah, the MEAC hasn't improved its Athletic product in over a Decade. I don't see it improving anytime soon sadly.

Speak for yourself...FAMU is going to surpass the rest of the MEAC...heck, NCCU may surpass a lot of schools(not named FAMU) who are already established in the MEAC with the committment they are making to athletics.

[soccerguy315]

Huh? W&M went to the final four last year.

yea... assume he meant the previous year, 2008 when we were 7-4.