Paytonology- Week 8

[smallcollegefbfan]

WATCH LIST UPDATE- OCTOBER 25, 2010

Before I get into the 20 candidates I picked for each award and my top 5 for each along with my top players not on my top 20 list, here is a look at the four categories of players you find in these type races.

Just like in the FBS we have different categories of players in the FCS. Here is my take.

PAYTON PRESEASON FAVORITES
QB Jeremy Moses, Stephen F. Austin, Sr.
QB Michael Herrick, Northern Arizona, Sr.
QB Cameron Higgins, Weber State, Sr.
RB Chase Reynolds, Montana, Sr.
QB Pat Devlin, Delaware, Sr.

PAYTON PRESEASON CANDIDATES FALLEN FROM THE LIST
These players had prolific seasons in 2009 but are either not playing this year or struggling due to injury or have just had bad seasons.

QB KJ Black, Prairie View A&M, Sr.
QB Pat Devlin, Delaware, Sr.
QB Malcolm Long, South Carolina State, Sr.
QB Andrew Selle, Montana, Sr.
RB Devon Moore, Appalachian State, Sr.
WR Matt Szczur, Villanova, Sr.

PAYTON SURPRISE CANDIDATES
These players were nowhere near the radar screen or even known coming into the season.

QB DeAndre Presley, Appalachian State, Jr.
QB Denarius McGhee, Montana State, Fr.
QB Casey Therriault, Jackson State, Jr.
RB Henry Harris, Southeast Missouri State, Sr.
RB Andrew Pierce, Delaware, Fr.

PAYTON WORTHY OF CONSIDERATION BUT NO SHOT
These players either have no shot because of the position they play, league they play in, lack of reputation to overcome lack of gaudy numbers, or lack of national exposure but are legit top 20 candidates.

QB B.J. Coleman, Chattanooga, Jr.
QB Mike Brown, Liberty, Jr.
QB Matthew Johnson, Bethune-Cookman, Sr.
QB Josh McGregor, Jacksonville, Jr.
OT Ben Ijalana, Villanova, Sr.

Now that we have the categories identified here is my look at the top 20 for the award.

MY 20 PAYTON WATCH CANDIDATES
QB B.J. Coleman, Chattanooga, Jr.- 135-226, 1871 yds, 16 TDs, 7 INT, 59.7%, 146.4 pass eff., 267.3 yds/gm, 31 carries, 1 yd, 4 TDs in 7 games.
QB Matt Barr, Western Illinois, Sr.- 142-237, 1986 yds, 17 TD, 3 INT, 59.9%, 248.3 yds/gm, 151.4 pass eff., 67 carries, 358 yds, 4 TD, 5.3ypc in 8 games.
QB Mike Brown, Liberty, Jr.- 137-212, 1856 yds, 17 TD, 8 INT, 64.6%, 265.1 yds/gm, 157.1 pass eff., 81 carries, 397 yds, 4.9ypc, 4 TD, 56.7 yds/gm, 3 catches, 18 yds in 7 games.
QB Matthew Johnson, Bethune-Cookman, Sr.- 99-152, 1436 yds, 10 TD, 2 INT, 65.1%, 163.6 pass eff., 205.1 yds/gm, 96 carries, 495 yds, 5.2ypc, 5 TD, 70.7 yds/gm in 7 games.
QB Denarius McGhee, Montana State, Fr.- 145-236, 2075 yds, 18 TD, 5 INT, 61.4%, 156.2 pass eff., 259.4 yds/gm, 55 carries, 96 yds, 1.7ypc, 1 TD in 8 games.
QB Josh McGregor, Jacksonville, Jr.- 151-247, 2279 yds, 22 TD, 6 INT, 61.1%, 163.2 pass eff., 284.9 yds/gm, 38 carries, 11 yds, 0.3ypc, 1 TD in 8 games.
QB Jeremy Moses, Stephen F. Austin, Sr.- 194-316, 2283 yds, 20 TD, 3 INT, 61.4%, 141.1 pass eff., 326.1 yds/gm, 9 carries, -45 yds, -5.0ypc in 7 games.
QB DeAndre Presley, Appalachian State, Jr.- 114-172, 1526 yds, 14 TD, 0 INT, 66.3%, 167.7 pass eff., 218.0 yds/gm, 84 carries, 564 yds, 6.7ypc, 10 TD in 7 games.
QB Scott Riddle, Elon, Sr.- 197-293, 2208 yds, 20 TD, 6 INT, 67.2%, 149.0 pass eff., 315.4 yds/gm, 32 carries, 2 yds, 1 TD in 7 games.
QB Casey Therriault, Jackson State, Jr.- 172-305, 2345 yds, 21 TD, 4 INT, 56.4%, 141.1 pass eff., 335.0 yds/gm, 62 carries, -15 yds, 4 TD in 7 games.
QB Chris Whitney, Villanova, Sr.- 97-141, 1248 yds, 13 TD, 4 INT, 68.8%, 167.9 pass eff., 178.3 yds/gm, 76 carries, 232 yds, 3.1ypc, 6 TD in 7 games.
RB Eric Breitenstein, Wofford, Jr.- 136 carries, 886 yds, 15 TDs, 6.5ypc, 126.6 yds/gm, 2 catches, 26 yds in 7 games.
RB Nate Eachus, Colgate, Jr.- 210 carries, 1171 yds, 14 TD, 5.6ypc, 167.3 yds/gm, 12 catches, 115 yds, 9.6ypc in 7 games.
RB Jonathan Grimes, William & Mary, Jr.- 127 carries, 510 yds, 4.0ypc, 7 TD, 72.9 yds/gm, 16 catches, 121 yds, 7.6ypc, 15 KR, 396 yds, 26.4avg in 7 games.
RB Henry Harris, Southeast Missouri State, Sr.- 201 carries, 1129 yds, 11 TD, 5.6ypc, 141.1 yds/gm, 17 catches, 164 yds, 9.6ypc, 1 TD in 8 games.
RB Taiwan Jones, Eastern Washington, Jr.- 120 carries, 879 yds, 7 TD, 7.3ypc, 125.6 yds/gm, 13 catches, 228 yds, 17.5ypc, 2 TDs, 3 PR, 28 yds, 9.3 avg, 11 KR, 224 yds, 20.4avg in 7 games.
RB Kyle Minett, South Dakota State, Sr.- 160 carries, 873 yds, 5.5ypc, 6 TD, 124.7 yds/gm, 22 catches, 153 yds, 7.0ypc in 7 games.
RB Andrew Pierce, Delaware, Fr.- 179 carries, 935 yds, 10 TD, 5.2ypc, 116.9 yds/gm, 12 catches, 99 yds, 8.2ypc, 2 TD in 8 games.
RB Frank Warren, Grambling State, Sr.- 158 carries, 1142 yards, 11 TD, 7.2ypc, 163.1 yds/gm, 13 catches, 113 yds, 8.7ypc, 1 TD, 2 KR, 33 yds in 7 games.
OT Ben Ijalana, Villanova, Sr.

PLAYERS TO WATCH
QB Sean Brackett, Columbia, Soph.- 92-144, 1207 yds, 63.9%, 160.4 pass eff., 201.2 yds/gm, 90 carries, 319 yds, 3.5ypc, 2 TD in 6 games.
QB Thomas DeMarco, Old Dominion, Jr.- 162-288, 1820 yds, 16 TD, 9 INT, 56.2%, 121.4 pass eff., 260.0 yds/gm, 75 carries, 234 yards, 31.ypc, 4 TD in 7 games.
QB Ronnie Fouch, Indiana State, Jr.- 118-205, 1478 yds, 13 TD, 3 INT, 57.6%, 136.1 pass eff., 211.1 yds/gm, 19 carries, -32 yds in 7 games.
QB Cameron Higgins, Weber State, Sr.- 149-264, 1801 yds, 13 TD, 11 INT, 56.4%, 121.7 pas eff., 257.3 yds/gm, 16 carries, 24 yds, 1.5ypc, 1 TD in 7 games.
QB Justin Roper, Montana, Sr.- 121-193, 1278 yds, 15 TD, 5 INT, 62.7%, 159.8 yds/gm, 138.8 pass eff., 36 carries, 98 yds, 2.7ypc, 1 TD in 7 games.
QB Brad Sorensen, Southern Utah, Soph.- 178-278, 2087 yds, 11 TD, 4 INT, 64.0%, 137.3 pass eff., 260.9 yds/gm, 52 carries, 22 yds, 0.4ypc, 1 TD in 8 games.
RB Jordan Brown, Bryant, Soph.- 157 carries, 844 yds, 5.4ypc, 9 TDs, 120.6 yds/gm, 10 catches, 129 yds, 12.9ypc, 1 TD, 3 PR, 144 yds, 48.0avg, 2 TD, 8 KR, 177 yds, 22.1avg in 7 games.
RB Tim Flanders, Sam Houston State, Fr.- 136 carries, 799 yds, 5.9ypc, 11 TD, 114.1 yds/gm, 10 catches, 22 yds, 2.2ypc in 7 games.
RB Gino Gordon, Harvard, Sr.- 91 carries, 711 yds, 7.8ypc, 6 TD, 118.5 yds/gm, 9 catches, 102 yds, 11.3ypc in 6 games.
RB Bryan Hilliard, Sacramento State, Jr.- 174 carries, 829 yds, 9 TD, 4.8ypc, 118.4 yds/gm, 3 catches, 17 yds, 5.7avg in 7 games.
RB Nick Schwieger, Dartmouth, Jr.- 141 carries, 707 yds, 7 TD, 5.0avg, 141.4 yds/gm, 19 catches, 140, 7.4ypc in 5 games.
WR Joel Bradford, Chattanooga, Jr.- 55 catches, 875 yds, 15.9ypc, 5 TD, 125.0 yds/gm, 5 PR, 67 yds, 13.4avg in 7 games.
WR Tysson Poots, Southern Utah, Sr.- 59 catches, 831 yards, 6 TD, 14.1ypc, 103.9 yds/gm in 8 games.
WR Chris Summers, Liberty, Jr.- 54 catches, 753 yds, 12 TD, 13.9ypc, 107.6 yds/gm in 7 games.
WR Raymond Webber, Arkansas-Pine Bluff, Sr.- 62 catches, 776 yds, 7 TD, 12.5ypc, 110.9 yds/gm in 7 games.


PAYTON TOP FIVE
1. QB DeAndre Presley, Appalachian State, Jr.- 114-172, 1526 yds, 14 TD, 0 INT, 66.3%, 167.7 pass eff., 218.0 yds/gm, 84 carries, 564 yds, 6.7ypc, 10 TD in 7 games.

Presley has played seven games and has no interceptions while leading all quarterback candidates in total touchdowns (24). He is second nationally in pass efficiency (167.7) and leads the nation’s No. 1 team.

2. QB Jeremy Moses, Stephen F. Austin, Sr.- 194-316, 2283 yds, 20 TD, 3 INT, 61.4%, 141.1 pass eff., 326.1 yds/gm, 9 carries, -45 yds, -5.0ypc in 7 games.

Moses had a slow start against Texas Tech but is second nationally in passing yards per game (326.1) and has thrown for over 300 yards in every game on his way to becoming the Southland’s all-time leader in total offense.

3. QB Scott Riddle, Elon, Sr.- 197-293, 2208 yds, 20 TD, 6 INT, 67.2%, 149.0 pass eff., 315.4 yds/gm, 32 carries, 2 yds, 1 TD in 7 games.

Elon’s 2-5 record really hurts Riddle’s shot but he has been breaking records left and right becoming the SoCon’s all-time leading passer and has been pretty accurate completing 67.2% of his passes. Riddle is third nationally in passing yards per game. It is pretty hard to believe numbers like this might not win the SoCon Offensive Player of the Year Award this year.

4. RB Nate Eachus, Colgate, Jr.- 210 carries, 1171 yds, 14 TD, 5.6ypc, 167.3 yds/gm, 12 catches, 115 yds, 9.6ypc in 7 games.

Eachus leads the nation in rushing yards per game (167.3) and reminds you of the season that former Payton winner Jamaal Branch once had. Colgate has been good but not quite good enough to get him much higher than fourth in the voting this year.

5. RB Frank Warren, Grambling State, Sr.- 158 carries, 1142 yards, 11 TD, 7.2ypc, 163.1 yds/gm, 13 catches, 113 yds, 8.7ypc, 1 TD, 2 KR, 33 yds in 7 games.

Warren is second in the nation in rushing yards per game (163.1) and has been dominant for GSU all season long. He is a big reason Grambling has ascended to the top 25 with a 6-1 overall record.

[smallcollegefbfan]

2011 FRONT RUNNERS
Here is an early look at five candidates primed and ready to consider for next year. (in no order)

PAYTON
QB Mike Brown, Liberty, Jr.- 137-212, 1856 yds, 17 TD, 8 INT, 64.6%, 265.1 yds/gm, 157.1 pass eff., 81 carries, 397 yds, 4.9ypc, 4 TD, 56.7 yds/gm, 3 catches, 18 yds in 7 games.
QB DeAndre Presley, Appalachian State, Jr.- 114-172, 1526 yds, 14 TD, 0 INT, 66.3%, 167.7 pass eff., 218.0 yds/gm, 84 carries, 564 yds, 6.7ypc, 10 TD in 7 games.
QB Casey Therriault, Jackson State, Jr.- 172-305, 2345 yds, 21 TD, 4 INT, 56.4%, 141.1 pass eff., 335.0 yds/gm, 62 carries, -15 yds, 4 TD in 7 games.
RB Nate Eachus, Colgate, Jr.- 210 carries, 1171 yds, 14 TD, 5.6ypc, 167.3 yds/gm, 12 catches, 115 yds, 9.6ypc in 7 games.
RB Taiwan Jones, Eastern Washington, Jr.- 120 carries, 879 yds, 7 TD, 7.3ypc, 125.6 yds/gm, 13 catches, 228 yds, 17.5ypc, 2 TDs, 3 PR, 28 yds, 9.3 avg, 11 KR, 224 yds, 20.4avg in 7 games.

[ElonPride]

PAYTON TOP FIVE
1. QB DeAndre Presley, Appalachian State, Jr.- 114-172, 1526 yds, 14 TD, 0 INT, 66.3%, 167.7 pass eff., 218.0 yds/gm, 84 carries, 564 yds, 6.7ypc, 10 TD in 7 games.

Presley has played seven games and has no interceptions while leading all quarterback candidates in total touchdowns (24). He is second nationally in pass efficiency (167.7) and leads the nation’s No. 1 team.

2. QB Jeremy Moses, Stephen F. Austin, Sr.- 194-316, 2283 yds, 20 TD, 3 INT, 61.4%, 141.1 pass eff., 326.1 yds/gm, 9 carries, -45 yds, -5.0ypc in 7 games.

Moses had a slow start against Texas Tech but is second nationally in passing yards per game (326.1) and has thrown for over 300 yards in every game on his way to becoming the Southland’s all-time leader in total offense.

3. QB Scott Riddle, Elon, Sr.- 197-293, 2208 yds, 20 TD, 6 INT, 67.2%, 149.0 pass eff., 315.4 yds/gm, 32 carries, 2 yds, 1 TD in 7 games.

Elon’s 2-5 record really hurts Riddle’s shot but he has been breaking records left and right becoming the SoCon’s all-time leading passer and has been pretty accurate completing 67.2% of his passes. Riddle is third nationally in passing yards per game. It is pretty hard to believe numbers like this might not win the SoCon Offensive Player of the Year Award this year.

4. RB Nate Eachus, Colgate, Jr.- 210 carries, 1171 yds, 14 TD, 5.6ypc, 167.3 yds/gm, 12 catches, 115 yds, 9.6ypc in 7 games.

Eachus leads the nation in rushing yards per game (167.3) and reminds you of the season that former Payton winner Jamaal Branch once had. Colgate has been good but not quite good enough to get him much higher than fourth in the voting this year.

5. RB Frank Warren, Grambling State, Sr.- 158 carries, 1142 yards, 11 TD, 7.2ypc, 163.1 yds/gm, 13 catches, 113 yds, 8.7ypc, 1 TD, 2 KR, 33 yds in 7 games.

Warren is second in the nation in rushing yards per game (163.1) and has been dominant for GSU all season long. He is a big reason Grambling has ascended to the top 25 with a 6-1 overall record.

Your top three was my top three in the same order!

One thing to point out that seems pretty amazing, barring any injury, Riddle could end up as the only QB in SoCon history to lead the league in passing in all four seasons.

[Head Cat]

I don't know where you got that Pat Devlin is having a struggling season. In my mind, he has been one of the top passers in FCS (despite missing most of two games with injuries) and is a major reason Delaware is tied for first in the CAA. And, in case you didn't notice, Devlin is STILL on the Payton watch list.

[smallcollegefbfan]

I don't know where you got that Pat Devlin is having a struggling season. In my mind, he has been one of the top passers in FCS (despite missing most of two games with injuries) and is a major reason Delaware is tied for first in the CAA. And, in case you didn't notice, Devlin is STILL on the Payton watch list.

I know he has played pretty well and because of his presence has possibly helped Pierce put up good numbers but he has not been the one scoring for Delaware, Pierce has. His numbers are substantially down so therefore I could not list him. Like I told someone else in the other thread this is the 20 I would put on the list, not who actually is on there. Another thing to remember is that these awards are about numbers, previous awards, and reputation and the bottom line is that Devlin has never been All-CAA or All-America and lacks the TD numbers this year to possibly finish in the top five or even top 10.

[Head Cat]

Have you seen Delaware play this year? I've seen them once in person and several times otherwise. Devlin is the straw that stirs the drink, believe me. Pierce is a complementary piece. How much yardage did Pierce get when Devlin was out against JMU? Devlin is the top QB I've seen this season (including Presley, who I really like, and Riddle) and I've seen all of the major ones play either live, or otherwise.

And Devlin was preseason All-CAA and All-American.

[smallcollegefbfan]

Have you seen Delaware play this year? I've seen them once in person and several times otherwise. Devlin is the straw that stirs the drink, believe me. Pierce is a complementary piece. How much yardage did Pierce get when Devlin was out against JMU? Devlin is the top QB I've seen this season (including Presley, who I really like, and Riddle) and I've seen all of the major ones play either live, or otherwise.

And Devlin was preseason All-CAA and All-American.

Twice. He is throwing the ball well. He will get drafted and he is not hurting his team at all but his TD-INT ratio (6-1). He is only averaging 185 yards passing per game.

Preseason awards don't matter in the grand scheme of things and really don't count. If we went by that then Villanova would not have been the national champs last year because they weren't the preseason pick. While Devlin was not All-CAA last year I will defend him by saying he should have been.

All I am saying is that when making these lists you have to have production and Devlin's numbers are nowhere near close to getting him enough votes to be in the top 10. As someone else said NFL stock should have no bearing here. His numbers don't compare to Riddle, Moses, Presley, etc. and thus I left him off. Is he as good or better of a QB than they are? Yes. Are his numbers alone worthy of being mentioned in the top 10-20 compared to the others? No.

[Head Cat]

The fact of the matter is that Devlin will get plenty of votes as long as Delaware keeping winning. He is managing games and is a difference maker that not many teams have. The awards are about more than numbers, even though Devlin's number are not bad. His numbers would be a lot better if he had not had to sit out a game against Duquesne and had he not gone out on a cheap shot on the second play against JMU. If you give him a six-game average, his numbers jump to 216 yards per game. He is also 12th in passing efficiency. The kid is also an amazing team team leader and a high-claiber guy all the way around.

[Ivytalk]

Harvard's Gino Gordon (RB) deserves at least some mention!xnonox

[smallcollegefbfan]

The fact of the matter is that Devlin will get plenty of votes as long as Delaware keeping winning. He is managing games and is a difference maker that not many teams have. The awards are about more than numbers, even though Devlin's number are not bad. His numbers would be a lot better if he had not had to sit out a game against Duquesne and had he not gone out on a cheap shot on the second play against JMU. If you give him a six-game average, his numbers jump to 216 yards per game. He is also 12th in passing efficiency. The kid is also an amazing team team leader and a high-claiber guy all the way around.

Let's see how UD does here later in the year. If they lose one or two more games and Devlin doesn't reach double digit TD passes I don't see him getting more than a couple of votes from CAA folks. UD needs to be in the top 5 and Devlin needs to do more than just manage games and win some games for them. It's not all about numbers, which is why I have Lindsey of SIU high but if you don't have them you have no shot of winning.

[smallcollegefbfan]

Harvard's Gino Gordon (RB) deserves at least some mention!xnonox

He is on the others to watch list. I almost put him on the top 20 and if he has a couple more weeks like this past week he will be.

[Mr. C]

Harvard's Gino Gordon (RB) deserves at least some mention!xnonox
Unfortunately, the Ivy League is getting NO love from the folks doing the watch lists this year.

[Mr. C]

He is on the others to watch list. I almost put him on the top 20 and if he has a couple more weeks like this past week he will be.

It isn't about your list. As long as Devlin is on the REAL list, he has a shot. There wouldn't be many FCS schools where another QB would start ahead of Devlin. Might not start at App State, or Villanova, but not many other places. If I were voting right now, he would be one of my three All-American quarterbacks.

[smallcollegefbfan]

It isn't about your list. As long as Devlin is on the REAL list, he has a shot. There wouldn't be many FCS schools where another QB would start ahead of Devlin. Might not start at App State, or Villanova, but not many other places. If I were voting right now, he would be one of my three All-American quarterbacks.

Devlin is probably the most talented QB in FCS and is a better passer than App's QB but I'm just saying based on numbers he has no shot at finishing in the top 5-10 of the voting right now. What I can't understand is how they have just one loss and he has been hurt and only has a 6-1 TD-INT ratio unless they have a lot of other talent and they do. Their OL has been solid and Pierce has been so impressive. Pierce deserves to get more credit for their record than he is getting by most.

[Red & Black]

I know EWU's Taiwan Jones has missed a couple of games, so his total numbers are down somewhat. But if he plays in all of the remaining games and continues to put up big numbers, do you see him anywhere near your top 5 at the end of the season?

[smallcollegefbfan]

I know EWU's Taiwan Jones has missed a couple of games, so his total numbers are down somewhat. But if he plays in all of the remaining games and continues to put up big numbers, do you see him anywhere near your top 5 at the end of the season?

Of course. Jones is a great player. He is the best RB in FCS and it's not even close in my mind.