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AGSPoll
October 18th, 2010, 02:25 PM
Any Given Saturday Poll Top 25

(First place votes in parenthesis), Points
1. Delaware (30) 1523
2. Appalachian St. (25) 1510
3. Jacksonville St. (6) 1432
4. Stephen F. Austin (1) 1362
5. William & Mary (1) 1359
6. Villanova 1254
7. Eastern Washington 1101
8. Wofford 996
9. Montana 966
10. Massachusetts 920
11. James Madison 823
12. Montana St. 667
13. New Hampshire 643
14. Southeast Missouri St. 605
15. Liberty 567
16. Furman 500
17. Bethune-Cookman 499
18. Western Illinois 476
19. Chattanooga 474
20. Richmond 471
21. South Carolina St. 394
22. Northern Arizona 383
23. Northern Iowa 351
24. Robert Morris 246
25. Pennsylvania 209
Others receiving votes (minimum of 5 votes): Cal Poly (36), North Dakota St. (19), Grambling St. (17), Georgia Southern (16), Sam Houston St. (14), Elon (12), Colgate (8), Indiana St. (7), Jacksonville (6), Southern Illinois (6),

asknoquarter21
October 18th, 2010, 02:35 PM
BEST POLL YET

PantherRob82
October 18th, 2010, 02:37 PM
Surprised UMass is still 10 after the loss to Richmond, but the poll looks pretty good.

Fear the Bird
October 18th, 2010, 02:45 PM
I find it interesting the other pollsters (myself not included) don't give more love to Western Illinois. Sam Houston St. and Indiana St. seem to be the "flavor of the week" ORV and WIU beat the crap out of both of them.

Squealofthepig
October 18th, 2010, 02:47 PM
What were the significant wins/losses? (Just curious).

WrenFGun
October 18th, 2010, 02:53 PM
Why is JMU ahead of UNH again? ( .. better question, does the Va. Tech/Liberty win outweight the head-to-head loss? it might..)

MacThor
October 18th, 2010, 02:55 PM
Why is JMU ahead of UNH again? ( .. better question, does the Va. Tech/Liberty win outweight the head-to-head loss? it might..)

UNH is the only team in the poll with two losses to unranked teams. That's probably it.

ToTheLeft
October 18th, 2010, 02:58 PM
Montana is way, way, way too high. Way too high. Absolutely way too high.

WrenFGun
October 18th, 2010, 03:00 PM
UNH is the only team in the poll with two losses to unranked teams. That's probably it.

Agreed. Just weird to see them so close in the poll but not ahead when they just beat them .. my guess is that there's a big spread in the evaluation of them. Some have them out because of their two bad losses (no argument there) and some have them in because of perception and the win over JMU, and I'm guessing they have them pretty high at that. I think it's probably some have them top 13 or so and the rest have them barely ranked or out of the top 25 altogether.

Schfourteenteen
October 18th, 2010, 03:18 PM
IMO Liberty is too high as well. 0-2 vs Top 25 shouldn't get you to 15.

bullseye44
October 18th, 2010, 03:19 PM
Montana is way, way, way too high. Way too high. Absolutely way too high.

Amen

MR. CHICKEN
October 18th, 2010, 03:23 PM
Any Given Saturday Poll Top 25

(First place votes in parenthesis), Points
1. Delaware (30) 1523
2. Appalachian St. (25) 1510
3. Jacksonville St. (6) 1432
4. Stephen F. Austin (1) 1362
5. William & Mary (1) 1359
6. Villanova 1254
7. Eastern Washington 1101
8. Wofford 996
9. Montana 966
10. Massachusetts 920
11. James Madison 823
12. Montana St. 667
13. New Hampshire 643
14. Southeast Missouri St. 605
15. Liberty 567
16. Furman 500
17. Bethune-Cookman 499
18. Western Illinois 476
19. Chattanooga 474
20. Richmond 471
21. South Carolina St. 394
22. Northern Arizona 383
23. Northern Iowa 351
24. Robert Morris 246
25. Pennsylvania 209
Others receiving votes (minimum of 5 votes): Cal Poly (36), North Dakota St. (19), Grambling St. (17), Georgia Southern (16), Sam Houston St. (14), Elon (12), Colgate (8), Indiana St. (7), Jacksonville (6), Southern Illinois (6),

RICHMOND...BEATS #4 UMA$$....GOES FROM 22 TA 20...(2 PLACES)

NON RANKED....BETHUNE-COOKMAN....BEATS #10 SOUFF CAROLINA STATE...CLIMBS TA #17...(8 PLACES + #28 TEAM=11 PLACES)...xconfusedxxconfusedx.......AWK!

MOST SIGNIFICANT WIN & LOSS....???

putter
October 18th, 2010, 03:31 PM
Montana is way, way, way too high. Way too high. Absolutely way too high.

Can't argue with you. The Griz have the talent but have struggled with the new coaching system and deteriorating fundamental play

DOME
October 18th, 2010, 03:40 PM
I was one that dropped the ball and left out Indian St. I had them in my poll last week but had a brain fart and left them out this week for what reason? I don't know.

Everyone should start fearing the Panthers though, they only turned the ball over once and botched a snap for a FGA. They're coming around!

GoAgs72
October 18th, 2010, 03:46 PM
Amen

Ditto

Montana is still getting points for past history.

Ivytalk
October 18th, 2010, 03:58 PM
When was the last time there were 2 MEAC teams in the Top 25 the same week?

OL FU
October 18th, 2010, 04:28 PM
When was the last time there were 2 MEAC teams in the Top 25 the same week?

When was the last time anyone even heard Indiana St in the same breath as top 25

ST_Lawson
October 18th, 2010, 05:01 PM
When was the last time anyone even heard Indiana St in the same breath as top 25

I'd guess around '83 and '84, the last years that they made the playoffs. I'm pretty sure they haven't been since I started paying attention to FCS/I-AA football (around '97)

Go...gate
October 18th, 2010, 05:03 PM
RMU that far ahead of Colgate? Bulletin-board material for the Opening Round.

401ks
October 18th, 2010, 05:06 PM
RMU that far ahead of Colgate? Bulletin-board material for the Opening Round.

For what little it may be worth, I had Robert Morris at #22 and Colgate at #24.

ngineer
October 18th, 2010, 05:06 PM
Montana is way, way, way too high. Way too high. Absolutely way too high.

.xsmiley_wix

TheValleyRaider
October 19th, 2010, 12:11 AM
RMU that far ahead of Colgate? Bulletin-board material for the Opening Round.

Not terribly surprising. RMU is unbeaten, has a win over Liberty to their credit, and recently hammered one of the NEC's more well-regarded clubs in Albany

Colgate has consecutive blowouts over 3 otherwise unimpressive foes, plus their big loss to Furman and the general malaise surrounding the PL this year

Luckily, our fate is where it belongs: in our hands. Win, and the rest will take care of itself :)

401ks
October 19th, 2010, 01:09 AM
Not terribly surprising. RMU is unbeaten, has a win over Liberty to their credit, and recently hammered one of the NEC's more well-regarded clubs in Albany

Correction:

Robert Morris lost the first game of the year to Dayton.

siuham
October 19th, 2010, 03:09 AM
Not terribly surprising. RMU is unbeaten, has a win over Liberty to their credit, and recently hammered one of the NEC's more well-regarded clubs in Albany

Colgate has consecutive blowouts over 3 otherwise unimpressive foes, plus their big loss to Furman and the general malaise surrounding the PL this year

Luckily, our fate is where it belongs: in our hands. Win, and the rest will take care of itself :)

Currently, Colgate is not more impressive than Lehigh. Two weeks from now we'll know the answer to that question I suppose. A better showing against Furman would have helped your case, but it's difficult to rank a team who's most impressive win is against Georgetown.

TheValleyRaider
October 19th, 2010, 09:54 AM
Correction:

Robert Morris lost the first game of the year to Dayton.

Yes. My mistake xpeacex

Lehigh Football Nation
October 19th, 2010, 10:51 AM
Currently, Colgate is not more impressive than Lehigh. Two weeks from now we'll know the answer to that question I suppose. A better showing against Furman would have helped your case, but it's difficult to rank a team who's most impressive win is against Georgetown.

Welcome to the bandwagon, siuham! Plenty of room! xlolx

dbackjon
October 20th, 2010, 02:25 PM
BEST POLL YET

Not even close.

NAU beats Montana State 34-7, yet Montana State is 12, NAU is 22?

This is what having worthless Preseason polls do.

Anyone that voted NAU less than 15th (or as many did, not at all) shouldn't be voting, because they don't know JACK.

URMite
October 20th, 2010, 02:41 PM
Not even close.

NAU beats Montana State 34-7, yet Montana State is 12, NAU is 22?

This is what having worthless Preseason polls do.

Anyone that voted NAU less than 15th (or as many did, not at all) shouldn't be voting, because they don't know JACK.

Don't you mean Jacks? xlolx

Fear the Bird
October 20th, 2010, 02:59 PM
Not even close.

NAU beats Montana State 34-7, yet Montana State is 12, NAU is 22?

This is what having worthless Preseason polls do.

Anyone that voted NAU less than 15th (or as many did, not at all) shouldn't be voting, because they don't know JACK.

It should be noted that I had NAU #12. That being said, there isn't much on the resume that warrants them being too high just yet so I support the other voters who didn't move them up that high. Usually when a fan base starts whining like this, they are right about where they should be and the fans are looking for a nice number before the team falls back to reality. We shall certainly see this weekend how good NAU is.

OL FU
October 20th, 2010, 03:02 PM
I'd guess around '83 and '84, the last years that they made the playoffs. I'm pretty sure they haven't been since I started paying attention to FCS/I-AA football (around '97)


My recollection is that for a few years we were counting the number of consecutive losses over a stretch of years. But now. Way to go Indiana St.

GeauxLions94
October 20th, 2010, 04:14 PM
Not even close.

NAU beats Montana State 34-7, yet Montana State is 12, NAU is 22?

This is what having worthless Preseason polls do.

Anyone that voted NAU less than 15th (or as many did, not at all) shouldn't be voting, because they don't know JACK.

Thanks for letting us know (I had them at 20 after putting them at No. 18 following win over Southern Utah and falling to 24 after loss to Eastern Washington) ... maybe next week, I might get a case of selective amnesia and not put them in at all xshhhx Of course, if NAU takes care of business this week in Missoula, they're gonna move up considerably IMO as I don't see a loss the rest of the way.

dbackjon
October 20th, 2010, 05:41 PM
It should be noted that I had NAU #12. That being said, there isn't much on the resume that warrants them being too high just yet so I support the other voters who didn't move them up that high. Usually when a fan base starts whining like this, they are right about where they should be and the fans are looking for a nice number before the team falls back to reality. We shall certainly see this weekend how good NAU is.


How many teams have a more impressive win over a top 10-15 team? A few, not too many.

Fear the Bird
October 20th, 2010, 05:48 PM
How many teams have a more impressive win over a top 10-15 team? A few, not too many.

Let's not forget what Montana St. did to Eastern Washington - I don't hear you saying anything about them being rated a few spots above them. That's a more impressive win over a top 8-10 team

dbackjon
October 20th, 2010, 06:02 PM
Let's not forget what Montana St. did to Eastern Washington - I don't hear you saying anything about them being rated a few spots above them. That's a more impressive win over a top 8-10 team

I have no problem with EWU, MSU and NAU being bunched together in the 8-15 range, in most any order.
I personally would rank the BSC teams EWU, NAU, MSU, and UM right now, but still a lot of football to play

HensRock
October 20th, 2010, 06:49 PM
I find it amazing that our pollsters can't think of 25 teams that would beat Robert Morris.
Do they honestly think Maine would lose to RMU? How about South Dakota State? North Dakota State? Georgia Southern?

Really? All of those would lose to RMU???

aceinthehole
October 20th, 2010, 08:02 PM
I find it amazing that our pollsters can't think of 25 teams that would beat Robert Morris.
Do they honestly think Maine would lose to RMU? How about South Dakota State? North Dakota State? Georgia Southern?

Really? All of those would lose to RMU???

Yeah, RMU could beat Maine.

Albany - 3
Maine - 0
http://www.northeastconference.org/Sports/fball/2010/UA1.asp

Albany - 0
RMU - 38
http://www.northeastconference.org/Sports/fball/2010/RM7UA6.asp

#15 Liberty - 23
RMU - 30
http://www.northeastconference.org/Sports/fball/2010/RMU3.asp

JMUNJ08
October 20th, 2010, 10:43 PM
I find it amazing that our pollsters can't think of 25 teams that would beat Robert Morris.
Do they honestly think Maine would lose to RMU? How about South Dakota State? North Dakota State? Georgia Southern?

Really? All of those would lose to RMU???

I think Georgia could beat a lot of teams in the FBS poll too but I don't see them ranked because they didn't win their games. Robert Morris is winning their games and is a quality team. Everyone has had 6/7 games to show their worth so far and no matter how good we think Elon/SIU/etc are, they haven't proven to be a Top 25 program for 2010.