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JBB
September 4th, 2010, 12:21 PM
The NDSU fans have made the trip. The BISON are still at the hotel. The stadium crowd is beginning to gather. I have been on the phone with BISON faithful most of the morning. There is a growing consensus on the upset.
It seems particularly calm here. The morning broke clear. The grass is heavy with dew. Coffee on the porch was a little chilly but refreshing.
We have a coach that knows what it takes to win. He knows what kind of athlete we need to compete against Kansas.
We need a team that is BISON STRONG. A team that understands the strength of the Herd is the Bison and the strength of the Bison the herd.
We have a strong nucleus of experienced, talented players that will be tested like never before. These players are building a new BISON team with some very talented younger players ready to contribute. The fans are confident and we are waiting quietly for the Herd to make the move to the stadium. Once under the stands The Coach is going to reveal his game plan. He is the Keeper of the records, the benefactor of the NDSU Football Archives kept deep under the Fabulous Fargo Dome. In those records lies the key to victory.
GO BISON!!! xhurrayxxhurrayxxhurrayx
ONE MORE TIME FOR THE OLD AC!!!
GO BISON!!! xhurrayxxhurrayxxhurrayx
slostang
September 4th, 2010, 12:54 PM
Good luck to the Bison today. Hope you add another FBS win to your resume. xthumbsupx
JBB
September 4th, 2010, 04:38 PM
I hope we can accomodate.
The BISON are at the Stadium. Things are starting to unfold now. Some of the crazier traveling fans are 3 days into the party and lot 90 is jamming. Its all NDSU for now.
2.5 hrs until kick off
Stream NDSU BISON @ Kansas Jayhawks here:
http://www.rajangan.net/
Ps. anybody catch the 2007 Sam Houston State @ NDSU BISON game? we didnt get it here but it was on the TV Guide listing.
darell1976
September 4th, 2010, 05:10 PM
Good luck to NDSU. I am sure Turner Gill in his first game will throw everything at you.
JBB
September 4th, 2010, 05:51 PM
Thank you.
I am receiving calls now, The crowd is beginning to file in. It might not hit 50,000 but BISON Fans are out in force. There is more coordination than last years ISU game.
There is no doubt in the mind of the Kansas fans. They are expecting an early day of it.
darell1976
September 4th, 2010, 05:53 PM
Thank you.
I am receiving calls now, The crowd is beginning to file in. It might not hit 50,000 but BISON Fans are out in force. There is more coordination than last years ISU game.
There is no doubt in the mind of the Kansas fans. They are expecting an early day of it.
It probably won't look like the Metrodome when you two played in the NCAA bball tournament I think the blue shirts will outnumber the yellow ones.
JBB
September 4th, 2010, 06:57 PM
Thats for sure. Bison Nation was every where that day. Its 5 Minutes to game time. Im off to my seat.
GO BISON!!
ONE MORE TIME FOR THE OLD AC!!
GO BISON!!!
PantherRob82
September 4th, 2010, 07:01 PM
Im cheering for you, but don't share your optimism.
dakotadan
September 4th, 2010, 07:02 PM
Good luck to SU. Represent North Dakota well.
PantherRob82
September 4th, 2010, 07:24 PM
no updates yet?
MTBison
September 4th, 2010, 07:37 PM
3-0 KU 1:58 in the First
darell1976
September 4th, 2010, 07:51 PM
13:18 2Q
KU 3
NDSU 0
darell1976
September 4th, 2010, 07:59 PM
9:28 2Q
KU 3
NDSU 0
darell1976
September 4th, 2010, 08:03 PM
NDSU blocked punt- First down at KU 11
7:24 2Q
3-0 KU
darell1976
September 4th, 2010, 08:06 PM
NDSU picked off in the end zone
First Down KU
3-0 2nd Qtr
darell1976
September 4th, 2010, 08:15 PM
44yd FG- NDSU
3:21 2Q
NDSU 3
KU 3
darell1976
September 4th, 2010, 08:24 PM
52yd FG-KU short
:29 2Q
NDSU 3
KU 3
MTBison
September 4th, 2010, 08:25 PM
Tie ball game 3-3 at the Half.
darell1976
September 4th, 2010, 08:27 PM
NDSU is playing great the only error was the pick in the end zone but on defense they have Kansas on the ropes. As for KU they can't get their new QB in a rythem, their running game is non-existant. Could be a nail biter in the end.
JBB
September 4th, 2010, 08:39 PM
Reports are pouring in:
The BISON are regrouping under the stands. Its chaos in the tunnels. NDSU fans are everywhere. The score in this epic football battle is 3-3. KU has been unable to exert its will over the team from North Dakota. This is the first meeting in football. This contest sets the stage for the future.
The NDSU BISON are coming out strong. That was a good half of football. Its an even game in every way except for the 57 yd KU reverse that resulted in 3 pts. Give the Jayhawks kudos on the great int in the end zone ending the BISON drive from 2nd and goal.
This is a good contest. NDSU is not the same team as last year. Times have changed.
JBB
September 4th, 2010, 08:44 PM
Its a very physical football game. Its total smash-mouth and neither team has established dominance. NDSU has won respect. I knew that when they tried to no-huddle. Thought they would catch the Herd off-sides but they got stuffed for a 3 yd loss. Play it straight ahead.
SalukiJim
September 4th, 2010, 08:48 PM
Live tv broadcast at
http://jhonlivetv.blogspot.com/2010/08/channel-12.html
It took me 2-3 min to load, so have patience. 3rd q just underway...
RabidRabbit
September 4th, 2010, 08:53 PM
Bison strip the ball from KU receiver, and take over at KU 45. 12:11 3rd Q
SalukiJim
September 4th, 2010, 08:58 PM
ndsu with a FG to take a 6-3 lead in the 3d
SalukiJim
September 4th, 2010, 09:05 PM
Hows this for irony? The live broadcast is on Fox College Sports - aka FCS :)
SalukiJim
September 4th, 2010, 09:07 PM
NDSU with the interception in the end zone to stop a KU drive! MVFC teams better beware this year, a different Bison group to see this season
Go Bison
September 4th, 2010, 09:21 PM
NDSU with the interception in the end zone to stop a KU drive! MVFC teams better beware this year, a different Bison group to see this season
Lets hope so. The defense is sure improved. The offense needs to get the ball in the endzone at some point though. This reminds of the when NDSU lost 10-9 to Minnesota a few years ago.
JBB
September 4th, 2010, 09:25 PM
Things are holding together for NDSU. The are ahead 6-3 in a very hard fought, I would say classically played football game. This is a game of traditional play.
Its early in the fourth If I have the facts straight.
xbeerchugx
GO BISON!!!
ONE MORE TIME FOR THE OLD AC!!
GO BISON!!!
Houndawg
September 4th, 2010, 09:28 PM
Win or lose they made a statement tonight. We might have us a new contender.xsmileyclapx
SalukiJim
September 4th, 2010, 09:32 PM
KU forced to punt from about their 20 with 11 min to go...
PantherRob82
September 4th, 2010, 09:34 PM
is Kansas picked last in the big xii?
TexasTerror
September 4th, 2010, 09:36 PM
FCS announcers are talking highly about NDSU... trying to ease the pain for the Jayhawk fans... ;)
Go Bison
September 4th, 2010, 09:40 PM
Stupid STUPID penalties on NDSU are keeping the Gayhawks in this game. No offense for the Bison, but the defense is keeping the Bison in the game.
SalukiJim
September 4th, 2010, 09:40 PM
KU has switched QBs to a redshirt freshman, who is driving them down the field..
PantherRob82
September 4th, 2010, 09:40 PM
Sucks to be a jayhawk. IMO ends your basketball season, a Bison loss to start your football season.....
SalukiJim
September 4th, 2010, 09:42 PM
is Kansas picked last in the big xii?
Boy, if they weren't, they should have been!
Go Bison
September 4th, 2010, 09:43 PM
Sucks to be a jayhawk. IMO ends your basketball season, a Bison loss to start your football season.....
The Bison haven't won yet. KU is driving and the Bison offense has done very little. I think the backup QB for the Bison should play.
Squealofthepig
September 4th, 2010, 09:43 PM
is Kansas picked last in the big xii?
They're supposed to be in the middle of the Big XII north - meaning, yes, pretty much the bottom. Not to detract from this great effort by the Bison though! As a Mizzou grad, I have to applaud this effort to embarass the Jayhawks on their home field!
bonarae
September 4th, 2010, 09:44 PM
and... KU has run out of TO's. 8:13 left in the game. I'm seeing updates in the GameTracker.
PantherRob82
September 4th, 2010, 09:44 PM
The Bison haven't won yet. KU is driving and the Bison offense has done very little. I think the backup QB for the Bison should play.
I know. Just saying if you did win. Hopefully our coaching staff is watching (would assume they are since Farley's son is a Jayhawk.
SalukiJim
September 4th, 2010, 09:45 PM
KU MISSES 42 YD FG = NDSU up 6-3 with 6:50 to go
RabidRabbit
September 4th, 2010, 09:46 PM
KU misses tying FG! 6:50 left
Go Bison
September 4th, 2010, 09:46 PM
KU misses a 42 yard FG. Now the Bison need to put a drive together.
Squealofthepig
September 4th, 2010, 09:46 PM
KU fails to tie it; field goal misses. 6-3 Bison still with 6:50 left in the game. Bison ball at around the Jayhawk 33.
bonarae
September 4th, 2010, 09:47 PM
missed FG by KU. 6:50 left.
TexasTerror
September 4th, 2010, 09:48 PM
Come on Bison! If you root for NDSU, you have got to appreciate how well their defense has been doing in crunch time.
SalukiJim
September 4th, 2010, 09:49 PM
NDSU to punt with 4:10 to go...
TexasTerror
September 4th, 2010, 09:51 PM
What was that - a 50, 51 yard punt? Kansas has 80 yards to go before getting six points on the board...
One more NDSU stop may do it.
SalukiJim
September 4th, 2010, 09:53 PM
FUMBLLLLLLLLLEEEEE! NDSU Recovers!
TexasTerror
September 4th, 2010, 09:54 PM
Let's hope the Big 12 official in the booth is aware of what just occurred...
SalukiJim
September 4th, 2010, 09:54 PM
yeah hope he doesn't have any money on this game...
SalukiJim
September 4th, 2010, 09:55 PM
even the Fox announcers are saying clearly it was a fumble
Go Bison
September 4th, 2010, 09:55 PM
HUGE HIT. That should be on Sportscenter!
SalukiJim
September 4th, 2010, 09:56 PM
call stands, NDSU w/ball and 3:00 to go. KU out of TO's
Squealofthepig
September 4th, 2010, 09:57 PM
What matters: Bison ball, inside KU territory at about the 34, 2nd and 7 with 2:16 to go and counting. (Probably a bit out of date, relying on gamecast, ack!)
SalukiJim
September 4th, 2010, 09:58 PM
check the earlier post for the live tv broadcast. KU gets ball on 20 with 50 seconds to go
BearsCountry
September 4th, 2010, 10:01 PM
Nice win Bison!
SalukiJim
September 4th, 2010, 10:01 PM
NDSU WITH THE STOP!!! Takes over with < 20 seconds to go
MSUBear42
September 4th, 2010, 10:01 PM
Wooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
bearsfan5
September 4th, 2010, 10:02 PM
Congrats NDSU!!!!!
RabidRabbit
September 4th, 2010, 10:02 PM
Bison !!!!xhurrayxxhurrayxxhurrayxxbowxxbowxxbowx
6-3 winners over KU!
TexasTerror
September 4th, 2010, 10:03 PM
I enjoyed seeing Mississippi (SEC) and Kansas (Big 12) fall victim to teams from the Football Championship Subdivision. It's not like any team from the SEC, Big 12, etc. are eligible for an NCAA football title anyway. The Road to Frisco begins! Congrats Jax State and NDSU!
SalukiJim
September 4th, 2010, 10:04 PM
Way to represent! NDSU with a good start to the season, their first win over an FBS team ever!
Go Bison
September 4th, 2010, 10:04 PM
Bison Win! The defense was incredible. The offense sucks but it is a win. We'll take it.
Go Bison
September 4th, 2010, 10:05 PM
Way to represent! NDSU with a good start to the season, their first win over an FBS team ever!
Umm. First win over a Big 12 team. NDSU beat Minnesota a few year ago,
SalukiJim
September 4th, 2010, 10:06 PM
Thats what I get for listening to Fox broadcasters. My bad
kardplayer
September 4th, 2010, 10:06 PM
Nice win Bison!
Hammersmith
September 4th, 2010, 10:06 PM
4th FBS win in 5 years
Ball State in 2006
Central Michigan & Minnesota in 2007
Kansas in 2010
JBB
September 4th, 2010, 10:06 PM
What can you say?
Its a good win for the program.
SalukiJim
September 4th, 2010, 10:07 PM
4th FBS win in 5 years
Ball State in 2006
Central Michigan & Minnesota in 2007
Kansas in 2010
Again - the last time I listen to Fox College Sports guys - great win for the Bison!
RabidRabbit
September 4th, 2010, 10:07 PM
Way to represent! NDSU with a good start to the season, their first win over an FBS team ever!
UMMM Wrong Bison are now 4-3 vs FBS since move to FCS in 2004.
SalukiJim
September 4th, 2010, 10:08 PM
The most hilarious thing - over on the ESPN boards for this game, some "homer" predicted 76-3 KU. Well, he got the 3 right, and the 6, but got the wrong team!
Squealofthepig
September 4th, 2010, 10:09 PM
Good win for the Bison, for the Valley, and for FCS in general. Two wins over not just FBS teams today, but FBS teams from BCS power six conferences. Not the debut Kansas' new coach wanted - but that's schadenfreude on my part. :)
SalukiJim
September 4th, 2010, 10:09 PM
UMMM Wrong Bison are now 4-3 vs FBS since move to FCS in 2004.
Please see my earlier (multiple) apologies for quoting those goofs at Fox College Sports
Squealofthepig
September 4th, 2010, 10:10 PM
The most hilarious thing - over on the ESPN boards for this game, some "homer" predicted 76-3 KU. Well, he got the 3 right, and the 6, but got the wrong team!
Let's just hope he bet copious amounts of money - with or without such a spread. :)
Bronco
September 4th, 2010, 10:11 PM
Great win NDSU
Nice to hear the announcers giving credit to the ball played in the FCS
JBB
September 4th, 2010, 10:11 PM
I know. Just saying if you did win. Hopefully our coaching staff is watching (would assume they are since Farley's son is a Jayhawk.
Actually, I hope every coaching staff in the country is watching. When you force the #31 offense in the country to try something like a fake-huddle-no-huddle-pistol-quick snap you know you have them beat.
The Kansas Jayhawks are a very good football team. They deserve everything they can earn this season. They have excellent athletes on both sides of the ball. I have nothing but respect for them. Long Live the JAYHAWKS!!!!
SalukiJim
September 4th, 2010, 10:12 PM
Let's just hope he bet copious amounts of money - with or without such a spread. :)
Ha! Those chicken hawk fans are not known for their lavish spending...xlolx
BearsCountry
September 4th, 2010, 10:14 PM
Maybe Lakes was right - you guys need to go the WAC seems you guys do better against the FBS schools. Just kidding, great win for the Bison and the MVFC today!
SalukiJim
September 4th, 2010, 10:18 PM
Maybe Lakes was right - you guys need to go the WAC seems you guys do better against the FBS schools. Just kidding, great win for the Bison and the MVFC today!
OK now you're scaring me. Lakes was right???xrolleyesx
Squealofthepig
September 4th, 2010, 10:21 PM
OK now you're scaring me. Lakes was right???xrolleyesx
Dogs and cats, living together!
JSU02
September 4th, 2010, 10:24 PM
I may have found my #2 :)
DOME
September 4th, 2010, 10:28 PM
Best part of this is me sitting next to a KU alum and big supporter. First I won a bottle of whiskey from the UNI-KU basketball game. Now this!!
Missouri Valley Conference...crushing KU dreams all day!
JBB
September 4th, 2010, 10:31 PM
Lakes is always right!!!
NDSU BISON Football is on the move.
GO BISON!!!
ONE MORE TIME FOR THE OLD AC!!
GO BISON!!!
leatherneck177
September 4th, 2010, 10:34 PM
Awesome, love it!
SDFS
September 4th, 2010, 10:44 PM
Congrats to the Bison - Nice WIN
Hammerhead
September 4th, 2010, 10:46 PM
I didn't expect us to hang with KU in the 2nd half and was very impressed with the defense. It will be interesting to see if the offense improves against FCS defenses.
JBB
September 4th, 2010, 10:56 PM
Good point Hammerhead! Have we seen the best game from the NDSU BISON?
No.
This is just the start. Coach Bohl has flushed the bad element out of this team. He has replaced them with very good gootball players. The entire team stood up tonight. The strength of the Herd was the Bison. The strength of the Bison was the Herd.
Franks Tanks
September 4th, 2010, 11:02 PM
Actually, I hope every coaching staff in the country is watching. When you force the #31 offense in the country to try something like a fake-huddle-no-huddle-pistol-quick snap you know you have them beat.
The Kansas Jayhawks are a very good football team. They deserve everything they can earn this season. They have excellent athletes on both sides of the ball. I have nothing but respect for them. Long Live the JAYHAWKS!!!!
Kansas had the #31 offense under Mark Mangino last year. They are a different team this year and just about last in offense in 2010 thanks to NDSU.
PantherRob82
September 4th, 2010, 11:05 PM
Congrats Bison! See you next week. Wish we had a traveling trophy.
JBB
September 4th, 2010, 11:13 PM
www.Bisonsports.net, in the name of Brian Dresser, will put up a $250.00 traveling trophy.
I think he might even plug his website back in.
PantherRob82
September 4th, 2010, 11:15 PM
www.Bisonsports.net, in the name of Brian Dresser, will put up a $250.00 traveling trophy.
I think he might even plug his website back in.
That would be cool. Hope to meet a lot of Bison posters next weekend. Can't wait to have a drink with Lakes for the second year in a row.
JBB
September 4th, 2010, 11:52 PM
**** i love FCS Football!!
xcoolxxcoolx
xlolxxlolxxlolx
Big win!!!
GO BISON!!! xhurrayxxhurrayxxhurrayx
ONE MORE FOR THE OLD AC!!
GO BISON!!! xhurrayxxhurrayxxhurrayx
Bogus Megapardus
September 4th, 2010, 11:59 PM
Well done, Bison. xbeerchugx
Gil Dobie
September 5th, 2010, 01:26 AM
Kansas had the #31 offense under Mark Mangino last year. They are a different team this year and just about last in offense in 2010 thanks to NDSU.
Surprized they moved their best back to linebacker from last year.
TheValleyRaider
September 5th, 2010, 01:39 AM
Good win Bison xthumbsupx
Twentysix
September 5th, 2010, 01:49 AM
Being at the game I guess it was hard to tell how well KU's defense played. Was there defense decent? good even? or did the NDSU offense blow? I hope KU's defense was pretty good. I do think that our Oline will have an easier time with FCS D-lines.
Hopefully NDSU can win next week aswell. This time we are mertens free! It was a fun game.
slostang
September 5th, 2010, 02:06 AM
Congrats on another big BCS win. Way to represent your school, conference and the FCS.
Twentysix
September 5th, 2010, 02:16 AM
BTW KU's seats arent raised at all, row ones bleacher bench is literally 2 feet off the ground. We couldnt see over the Gaterade coolers without standing on the seats. Thankfully Visitor side section 22 row 2-4 didnt show up, there were litterally like 60 empty seats behind us so we were able to stand on the bleachers the whole game. View of the game was..good..and terrible at the same time.
48k+ saw ku lose :)
JMUNJ08
September 5th, 2010, 02:38 AM
BCS
Bison Championship Subdivision? Or Beaten by Championship Subdivision?
JBB
September 5th, 2010, 03:20 AM
I have seen the game twice now. The Jayhawks are a very, very good football team.
AppStsGr8
September 5th, 2010, 09:18 AM
Great job, NDSU!
superman7515
September 5th, 2010, 11:19 AM
So do you think Texas is still glad that they saved the Big 12, and specifically Kansas, from football obscurity? Haha
X-Factor
September 5th, 2010, 12:04 PM
Great win for us. This is just what the Bison needed to give a shot of confidence for a new season, especially for the defense, which last year was the worst I have ever seen wear green and gold. The defense is obviously going to be very good this year, while the offense still has some questions to answer throughout the season. The OL is going to really take it to a lot of opponents this year, and as good as the OL was last year, they may even be better right now and with a lot of upside left considering how young the OL is. The WR's still need a lot of work. We should have had a TD in the endzone, but two of our WR's literally collided and knocked the ball loose. Jose had some early jitters and threw some misses but is certainly a step up from what we had at QB last year. Kickoff coverage was horrendous, punting and punt coverage surprisingly amazing, and the Bison actually kicked not one but TWO field goals in a game! Last year we might as well have gone for it on 4th every single time.
EmeryZach
September 5th, 2010, 12:08 PM
Awesome win.
ngineer
September 5th, 2010, 12:10 PM
Great job. With you guys and JSU pulling off the big ones already, says alot for the division.
caribbeanhen
September 5th, 2010, 01:01 PM
The most hilarious thing - over on the ESPN boards for this game, some "homer" predicted 76-3 KU. Well, he got the 3 right, and the 6, but got the wrong team!
xlolx
xhurrayx
UNI Pike
September 5th, 2010, 01:10 PM
I have seen the game twice now. The Jayhawks are a very, very good football team.
First off - congrats to the Bison on the win. I am all for kicking Kansas in the teeth whenever the chance comes up. That said...
I want to preface that I only was able to see the last third of the game. I am hoping to see a replay, so I may revise & extend my comments. As for the Jayhawks being a very, very good football team, I simply do not understand where that idea comes from. They pulled their starting QB who had a mediocre performance at best. KU TE Tim Biere looked like he was wearing the wrong jersey (is he from ND?). The KU play calling was plain terrible - how many "screen passes" did we see where there was no screen of the NDSU defenders? In fact, usually I saw a NDSU defender ready to tackle the screen pass recipient without another KU player in the picture. A ton of penalties (for both teams), which is not unexpected for a first game. In fact, that was the only reason KU had a chance at the last field goal attempt - three Bison penalties netting 35 yards of a 40 yard drive.
Frankly, ISU Cyclones looked better offensive against Northern Illinois than KU did against NDSU. Part of that was NDSU forced KU out of their game plan. KU needs to vastly improve, or they will be looking up at KS ST & ISU, which is a really bad place to be.
OrygunBison
September 5th, 2010, 05:12 PM
I watched the game at a KU bar here in Portland on the big screen. One thing that didn't make sense to me was the KU play calling. They had some success early in the game every time that they ran some mis-direction/play-action. That long reverse wasn't the only time. They had several 10+ yard plays where they ran some fast mis-direction and the Bison defenders were over-pursuing. Why did they stop? I didn't see the Bison stuff that up.
Anyone see this differently? When I saw KU run those plays early, I thought it was going to be a long day for us.
PantherRob82
September 5th, 2010, 05:15 PM
I watched the game at a KU bar here in Portland on the big screen. One thing that didn't make sense to me was the KU play calling. They had some success early in the game every time that they ran some mis-direction/play-action. That long reverse wasn't the only time. They had several 10+ yard plays where they ran some fast mis-direction and the Bison defenders were over-pursuing. Why did they stop? I didn't see the Bison stuff that up.
Anyone see this differently? When I saw KU run those plays early, I thought it was going to be a long day for us.
I recorded the game and thought the same thing.
Bison fans should be excited for the win, but it was hard to tell how good either team was from that game.
JBB
September 5th, 2010, 06:05 PM
First off - congrats to the Bison on the win. I am all for kicking Kansas in the teeth whenever the chance comes up. That said...
I want to preface that I only was able to see the last third of the game. I am hoping to see a replay, so I may revise & extend my comments. As for the Jayhawks being a very, very good football team, I simply do not understand where that idea comes from. They pulled their starting QB who had a mediocre performance at best. KU TE Tim Biere looked like he was wearing the wrong jersey (is he from ND?). The KU play calling was plain terrible - how many "screen passes" did we see where there was no screen of the NDSU defenders? In fact, usually I saw a NDSU defender ready to tackle the screen pass recipient without another KU player in the picture. A ton of penalties (for both teams), which is not unexpected for a first game. In fact, that was the only reason KU had a chance at the last field goal attempt - three Bison penalties netting 35 yards of a 40 yard drive.
Frankly, ISU Cyclones looked better offensive against Northern Illinois than KU did against NDSU. Part of that was NDSU forced KU out of their game plan. KU needs to vastly improve, or they will be looking up at KS ST & ISU, which is a really bad place to be.
One thing you have to remember: NDSU had a negative and neutralizing affect on the KU efforts.
You have recognized that but Im not sure you realize what that means (see bold section above). It means NDSU made KU look bad. Both teams were good, very good. It was a hard fought physicl battle, keyed on the defenses with NDSU winning in the trenches and winning the game. Ball control had a lot to do with it.
The pulled Pick for Webb with 10 minutes left. That was a desperate act. Pick is obviously the better QB going into the game because he was the started. Gill was scared and giving into pressure. Had he left Pick in it may have been different.
Play calling? Sure they had SOME success with miss-direction but NDSU caught on to that. You can win a football game on the big play. KU was getting stuffed by a very good BISON defense so they tried a lot of different things. You say KU was terrible. Im saying NDSU made them look terrible and also forced them out of the game plan into the play book looking for a silver bullet that wasnt there.
As far a ISU, they are a good football team too. We played them last year.
KU was placed as high as 31 in country before the game. Thats a very good football team.
UNI Pike
September 5th, 2010, 09:12 PM
One thing you have to remember: NDSU had a negative and neutralizing affect on the KU efforts.
You have recognized that but Im not sure you realize what that means (see bold section above). It means NDSU made KU look bad. Both teams were good, very good. It was a hard fought physicl battle, keyed on the defenses with NDSU winning in the trenches and winning the game. Ball control had a lot to do with it.
The pulled Pick for Webb with 10 minutes left. That was a desperate act. Pick is obviously the better QB going into the game because he was the started. Gill was scared and giving into pressure. Had he left Pick in it may have been different.
Play calling? Sure they had SOME success with miss-direction but NDSU caught on to that. You can win a football game on the big play. KU was getting stuffed by a very good BISON defense so they tried a lot of different things. You say KU was terrible. Im saying NDSU made them look terrible and also forced them out of the game plan into the play book looking for a silver bullet that wasnt there.
As far a ISU, they are a good football team too. We played them last year.
KU was placed as high as 31 in country before the game. Thats a very good football team.
Looking at the preseason USA Today coaches poll, 64 teams are listed receivng votes (58 in the AP preseason), none of them being Kansas - unless you are counting Arkansas. Northern Illionois got 1 vote in the coaches poll, and they were dismantled by the team picked to finish last in the big 12.
JBB
September 5th, 2010, 09:59 PM
I'm sorry, but I lost my link for the top 100 countdown that had KU at 31. I posted the writeup on BisonSports.net but that web sight went away.
ValleyChamp
September 5th, 2010, 10:46 PM
Good god people. It was a good win. Anytime an FCS team beats a FBS team, it is significant.
But to say Kansas is a very good team is asinine. They are a bad team. Probably a horrible team. I would bet they win 4 games or less.
JBB is flat out making things up regarding KU's rankings and abilities.
UNI Pike
September 5th, 2010, 11:12 PM
KU is #41 in the preseason Sagarin rankings. They will likely not drop much as everyone else in the Big 12 won this week. In addition GT won. NM ST did not play.
steelbison
September 6th, 2010, 01:15 AM
Good god people. It was a good win. Anytime an FCS team beats a FBS team, it is significant.
But to say Kansas is a very good team is asinine. They are a bad team. Probably a horrible team. I would bet they win 4 games or less.
JBB is flat out making things up regarding KU's rankings and abilities.
Valley, please don't incourage JBB.
I was at the game and I will say this the KU QB needs work. The o-line is very exp. the WR's and RB's are all young. They are an average at best(that's being nice) Offense.
On defense they have some PLAYERS!! with any O they would be a .500 team in the Big 12. What I saw I would put them easily in the bottom.
JBB pre-season rankings/polls mean NOTHING. Please quick acting like this was a world beater. I good win? Absolutely!! but not outstanding..
JBB
September 6th, 2010, 09:58 AM
Sorry steelbison, you are not an NDSU fan. You are a rustedsteelbison if a Bison at all. You are not worthy of speaking to me. You think you are sophisticated. You are not.
KU was was 41 with Sagarin and I lost my link to the countdown that had them at 31. I was unable to check it but others are reporting similar facts. Pre season polls are the starting point. Saying they mean nothing is certainly incomplete logic! Nothing compared to what? Mars, the moon, the FCS national championship?
Say what you will but folks like rustedsteelbison are welcome to their opinion without editorial comments on me. xbangx
That was a big win. Hats off to NDSU if, at the very least, they made KU look bad. At the most NDSU played a top team to a virtual draw winning like champions do, with defense.
darell1976
September 6th, 2010, 10:01 AM
Sorry steelbison, you are not an NDSU fan. You are a rustedsteelbisin if a Bison at all. You are not worthy of speaking to me. You think you are sophisticated. You are not.
I was incorect with the 31 ranking. It was 41. I was unable to check it but others are reporting the same fact.
Say what you will but folks like rustedsteelbison represent the typical NDSU fan. xbangx
That was a big win. Hats off to NDSU if, at the very least, they made KU look bad. At the most NDSU played a top team to a virtual draw winning like champions do, with defense.
That is what is going to be the key to your season, and if they have a game like they did on Saturday they will be very hard to beat. Hats off to NDSU.
RabidRabbit
September 6th, 2010, 10:28 AM
BISON FANS - CONGRATS ON A SUPER Win at KU.
Let's keep the discussion focused on the results, and possibility of repeating said results, and not on posters' positions.
SteelBison - Welcome! But avoid shout outs at fellow posters.
JBB - Keep posters names out of your posts.
JBB
September 6th, 2010, 11:43 AM
Sure, just iike everybody else.
I called this game. I picked NDSU to win. I reconfirmed that pick with this thread Saturday morning.
Last year NDSU had talent but they didnt have a team. Don Morton saw it too. We both understood what was missing. It appears The Coach has repaired the pschye of the team. This is what a good coach does. I feel more confident now about this football team. I sure hope we havent seen their best game. I dont think so. I expect this team to improve week-to-week.
JBB
September 6th, 2010, 12:09 PM
To close this out, here are a couple of important facts:
Punt Returns: KU-5-8yds NDSU - 3-58yds. We won on field goals. Our special teams played very well
Sacks By: KU-1 NDSU-4 and the BISON defense disrupted the KU backfield all night. That was a huge part of Picks problems.
NDSU was out-gained by over 100 yds by controlled the ball and time of possession.
NDSU only converted 2 third down attempts but had 10 first downs. We were getting the line surge and ending up with a lot of first downs coming on second down.
bisonguy
September 6th, 2010, 09:48 PM
Photo Gallery from the NDSU @ KU game courtesy of Bison Illustrated- http://photos.bisonillustrated.com/Bison-Illustrated/Football/NDSU-vs-Kansas-2010
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