NDSU gets 4 star Wisconsin Transfer

[LakesBison]

6'6 245 DE Tyler Westphal transfers to NDSU today, and becomes the first
4 star athlete to step onto campus in football for NDSU.
Kid is a BEAST, he was injured alot at Wisconsin, but managed 2 sacks in the Badger Spring game this April. So hopefully he steps right in and becomes a impact player on Def for NDSU.

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[darell1976]

6'6 235 DE Tyler Westphal transfers to NDSU today, and becomes the first
4 star athlete to step onto campus in football for NDSU.
Kid is a BEAST, he was injured alot at Wisconsin, but managed 2 sacks in the Badger Spring game this April. So hopefully he steps right in and becomes a impact player on Def for NDSU.

Good snag for NDSU, will they redshirt him or start him right away?

[PantherRob82]

So what's the other side of the story? Injury slow him down? Wasn't going to get playing time even when healthy? Really wanted to live in Fargo?

See you Sept 11th, Lakes.

[darell1976]

http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/283473/group/homepage/

NDSU beat out SIU for him. Dale Lennon didn't do something right.

[NDB]

Dale Lennon is a stud.

The only mistake he's ever made is affiliating with UND.

[darell1976]

Dale Lennon is a stud.

The only mistake he's ever made is affiliating with UND.

Why do you need to make this into a UND thing.....BTW Dale won a national title with UND in 2001. Its horrible to be affiliated with that.

[NDB]

...you say something nice about a guy...

[darell1976]

...you say something nice about a guy...

You call him a stud then you slam him for being affiliated with UND. Yep you always say something nice about a guy.xconfusedx

[NDB]

take life seriously, much?

[JSUBison]

Dale Lennon is a stud.

The only mistake he's ever made is affiliating with UND.

Well that and the porn 'stache.

[MplsBison]

http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/283473/group/homepage/

NDSU beat out SIU for him. Dale Lennon didn't do something right.

Kolpack indicated that his HS and U of WI both ran the 4-3, which is the same scheme NDSU runs.

While I wouldn't say it's a mistake, Lennon has always run a 3-4 as far as I know.


I'm sure they tried to sell him on being a 3-4 DE. Big guy, he'd probably do good in that role. But the thing is, a 3-4 DE doesn't get the glitz and glamor of being an edge rusher like a 4-3 DE does.

[LakesBison]

Darrel gets away with this according to moderater 33 on this website. apparently thats what they want.

Dale will fail now with Jerry Kill's recruits leaving the program this year or next, wait for it.

TYLER will play right away, kid had 2 sacks in badgers spring game and showed great skill, injuries have hurt him
and he was stuck behind 2 kids and wanted to play right away.

[darell1976]

Kolpack indicated that his HS and U of WI both ran the 4-3, which is the same scheme NDSU runs.

While I wouldn't say it's a mistake, Lennon has always run a 3-4 as far as I know.


I'm sure they tried to sell him on being a 3-4 DE. Big guy, he'd probably do good in that role. But the thing is, a 3-4 DE doesn't get the glitz and glamor of being an edge rusher like a 4-3 DE does.

So MplsBison, you think he will be a starter or will Bohl redshirt him?

[johnson]

you think he will be a starter or will Bohl redshirt him?
He will be in Fargo soon to start working out with the team. He already used his redshirt year but they are possibly looking into petitioning the NCAA because of his injury. I think if he can prove himself there is a very good possibility that he will be starting right away.

[darell1976]

He will be in Fargo soon to start working out with the team. He already used his redshirt year but they are possibly looking into petitioning the NCAA because of his injury. I think if he can prove himself there is a very good possibility that he will be starting right away.

What was his injury?

[johnson]

What was his injury?

Shoulder injury that required surgery. It sounds like he tried to rehab it without surgery first and it didn't work out. He has been working his butt off to get back to 100% and he feels like he is there. He had a solid spring game with Wisconsin but is falling behind in the depth chart because he's had to start back at square one. The kid comes from a football family and just wants to play.

[darell1976]

Shoulder injury that required surgery. It sounds like he tried to rehab it without surgery first and it didn't work out. He has been working his butt off to get back to 100% and he feels like he is there. He had a solid spring game with Wisconsin but is falling behind in the depth chart because he's had to start back at square one. The kid comes from a football family and just wants to play.

A 4 star player even with an injury he sounds like a hell of a player. NDSU's Defense will be a lot tougher with him on the field. Of course Bohl would rather have his offense on the field more.:D

[johnson]

A 4 star player even with an injury he sounds like a hell of a player. NDSU's Defense will be a lot tougher with him on the field. Of course Bohl would rather have his offense on the field more.:D
I think if he can stay healthy he will be a major contributor to the team. You might be able to call this kid a "good get" if everything works out.

[darell1976]

I think if he can stay healthy he will be a major contributor to the team. You might be able to call this kid a "good get" if everything works out.

I hope more 4 star players come this way, and maybe with this one to NDSU is a sign of things to start.

[LakesBison]

why do you have to post 23 times with ndsu posts? wow.

[bleedblue]

Good luck with your Wisconsin xfer. Ours did not work out so well. He was their backup RB and was not gonna get playing time behind PJ Hill so he came to UD. All the talent in the world speed and compact little cannon ball but did not have good vision on the field or made bad decisions as far as where to run. He was not a four star. only 3, but did get full rides from both Wisconsin and West Virginia.

[NDB]

you never can tell with transfers.

for every flacco, there's a dozen average players, and a few busts.

i'm extremely pleased that NDSU beat out SIU with the season we just had.

[Jacked_Rabbit]

With or without this kid, the SDSU Jackrabbits are going to make it 4 Dakota Marker Championships in a row this year... Just sayin.

[TheBisonator]

With or without this kid, the SDSU Jackrabbits are going to make it 4 Dakota Marker Championships in a row this year... Just sayin.

Um..... I don't think so.

[PantherRob82]

Um..... I don't think so.

Haha, powerful comeback. You've got me convinced. :)

[Jacked_Rabbit]

Agreed, Panther Rob... I apologize and take my prediction back! How's this: NDSU goes undefeated this year, their last before moving to the FBS, on their way to being crowned National Champs. There, that's much more likely to happen.


Alright, now back to acid and bag of hallucinogenic mushrooms... xrotatehx

[TheBisonator]

Agreed, Panther Rob... I apologize and take my prediction back! How's this: NDSU goes undefeated this year, their last before moving to the FBS, on their way to being crowned National Champs. There, that's much more likely to happen.


Alright, now back to acid and bag of hallucinogenic mushrooms... xrotatehx

There's a large, gigantic world that exists between thinking NDSU will win back the Marker and thinking NDSU will move to FBS in a year and dominate the nation.

[darell1976]

xpopcornx

[MplsBison]

With or without this kid, the SDSU Jackrabbits are going to make it 4 Dakota Marker Championships in a row this year... Just sayin.

What's the total series record up to now? 70% wins for NDSU?

Ok. Why don't you go ahead and get back to me when SDSU's football program has done something that might actually be written down as significant in a NCAA football history book. kthx

[PantherRob82]

What's the total series record up to now? 70% wins for NDSU?

Ok. Why don't you go ahead and get back to me when SDSU's football program has done something that might actually be written down as significant in a NCAA football history book. kthx

Who cares about 70% when you've got 3 straight...It's like a YSU fan pointing out their NC when we mention our winning streak. It's about the present and future, the past won't win you games.

[NoCoDanny]

It actually makes sense, ND State fans living in the 80's and when you go to Fargo they are just now discovering parachute pants and listening to Thriller.

[TokyoGriz]

hmm if your a good college transfer why the heck go to NDSU? Montana, App state, or take your pick of some of the CAA schools would be better fit if your looking for teams that will go all the way. On top of that NDSU is seriously in the middle of no were land as far as stuff to do outside of school/football.

Guess if UND has a specific academic program he needs but eh....

Good luck this year anyways NDSU!

[MplsBison]

hmm if your a good college transfer why the heck go to NDSU? Montana, App state, or take your pick of some of the CAA schools would be better fit if your looking for teams that will go all the way. On top of that NDSU is seriously in the middle of no were land as far as stuff to do outside of school/football.

Guess if UND has a specific academic program he needs but eh....

Good luck this year anyways NDSU!

He was looking for playing time right away -> we kicked a likely DE starter off the team this spring

We also have a ton of WI kids as NDSU is one of the closest FCS schools to WI. And we have reduced tuition for WI residents (unlike UNI which does not have reduced tuition for non-Iowa residents). Including his former high school teammate (no longer on the team but still in school).

[darell1976]

He was looking for playing time right away -> we kicked a likely DE starter off the team this spring

We also have a ton of WI kids as NDSU is one of the closest FCS schools to WI. And we have reduced tuition for WI residents (unlike UNI which does not have reduced tuition for non-Iowa residents). Including his former high school teammate (no longer on the team but still in school).

I was going to say the same thing. WI is a breeding ground for NDSU and UND players. It has been at least for UND since the early 90's, and until D2 teams in Minnesota move up to D1 and or D3 Wisconsin teams move to D1 we (us Dakota teams) will continue to recruit in that state.

[TheBisonator]

hmm if your a good college transfer why the heck go to NDSU? Montana, App state, or take your pick of some of the CAA schools would be better fit if your looking for teams that will go all the way. On top of that NDSU is seriously in the middle of no were land as far as stuff to do outside of school/football.

Guess if UND has a specific academic program he needs but eh....

Good luck this year anyways NDSU!

There's more things to do in Fargo-Moorhead than in Missoula. You don't want to go down the route of "There's nothing to do in Fargo" because you'll never win. F-M is not a little college town.

[PantherRob82]

There's more things to do in Fargo-Moorhead than in Missoula. You don't want to go down the route of "There's nothing to do in Fargo" because you'll never win. F-M is not a little college town.

I'll call BS on this. I've been to both places. In town is maybe similar, but Montana is more beautiful with more to do.

[MplsBison]

I was going to say the same thing. WI is a breeding ground for NDSU and UND players. It has been at least for UND since the early 90's, and until D2 teams in Minnesota move up to D1 and or D3 Wisconsin teams move to D1 we (us Dakota teams) will continue to recruit in that state.

I think NDSU could compete nationally by recruiting the states of MN and WI alone! There's that many high-level FCS football players in those two states to sustain NDSU's program. The U of MN and the U of WI mostly overlook all but the very top in-state players and there are no FCS schools in those states (not even DII in WI). And since UNI has such high tuition for non-Iowa players, the ND schools have the advantage if UNI is not offering a full scholarship.

We are getting competition for WI kids from the FCS schools in SD and IL, though.

And, of course, NDSU will also recruit from other regional states like ND, SD, NE, etc.

[LakesBison]

NDSU's recruiting is dominant, toyko. quit giving the troller ammo, ndsu's overall program is just fine, and 30 miles away the lakes of minnesota give NDSU an edge vs any area school. 4th of july on the beaches in 90+ heat had the HOTTIES out everywhere.

[TheBisonator]

I'll call BS on this. I've been to both places. In town is maybe similar, but Montana is more beautiful with more to do.

I'll call BS on yours. F-M has:

1) WAY more concerts with big-time bands coming in almost every week
2) More prolific arts scene
3) Larger drinking scene (which is really what college kids want anyway)

Fargo-Moorhead urban area population: 175,000
Missoula urban area population: 67,000

Having some mountains around or not doesn't change things much.

But, going back to Westphal, his choices, between F-M and Carbondale, were between two similar academic schools, but one of them is in a city of about 7 times the size (that's not economically depressed), with way more to do in town, that plays his type of defense, playing in front of larger crowds with a more intense fanbase where he would get more local attention.

So I'm sure that's why Tyler chose the place he chose.

Just remember this: Don't start asking the question on if a BCS transfer comes to NDSU, saying, "Why would he want to come to Fargo?", as if transferring to Missoula or Cedar Falls or Brookings is any better.

[Jacked_Rabbit]

And just to reiterate, I can't wait until we run the ball directly down this kid's throat (if he's even on the field, that is) on our way to FOUR STRAIGHT againt the lowly Bison... Based on his history, however, he'll probably be holding a clip board somewhere on the sideline.

[ncbears]

I'll call BS on yours. F-M has:

1) WAY more concerts with big-time bands coming in almost every week
2) More prolific arts scene
3) Larger drinking scene (which is really what college kids want anyway)

Fargo-Moorhead urban area population: 175,000
Missoula urban area population: 67,000

Having some mountains around or not doesn't change things much.

But, going back to Westphal, his choices, between F-M and Carbondale, were between two similar academic schools, but one of them is in a city of about 7 times the size (that's not economically depressed), with way more to do in town, that plays his type of defense, playing in front of larger crowds with a more intense fanbase where he would get more local attention.

So I'm sure that's why Tyler chose the place he chose.

Just remember this: Don't start asking the question on if a BCS transfer comes to NDSU, saying, "Why would he want to come to Fargo?", as if transferring to Missoula or Cedar Falls or Brookings is any better.

I gotta go with Montana on this. The Rocky Mountains are a great place to live. North Dakota is cold, flat and isolated. I've been there and would rather live in Moscow than live any where in ND.

[darell1976]

I gotta go with Montana on this. The Rocky Mountains are a great place to live. North Dakota is cold, flat and isolated. I've been there and would rather live in Moscow than live any where in ND.

I was no geography major but Montana is not located in the desert.

[ncbears]

I was no geography major but Montana is not located in the desert.

I never said it was in the desert. Lots of places are flat but not in the desert. Kansas is flat as a pancake (literally) but it's not a desert.

[MplsBison]

And just to reiterate, I can't wait until we run the ball directly down this kid's throat (if he's even on the field, that is) on our way to FOUR STRAIGHT againt the lowly Bison... Based on his history, however, he'll probably be holding a clip board somewhere on the sideline.

You be sure to let me know when SDSU's football program has done something, anything, that might be worth noting in the history books. K?

Just to, you know, reiterate.

[darell1976]

I never said it was in the desert. Lots of places are flat but not in the desert. Kansas is flat as a pancake (literally) but it's not a desert.

You said ND is cold well guess what many states are cold during the winter including Montana. SD is cold, MN is cold, even Colorado gets cold. So why does that make MT a better place than ND? Because it could be -20 here and -10 in MT?? Wow sign me up.

[MplsBison]

Are we really arguing whether ND or MT is colder in the winter? People in Arizona are laughing at you both.

[darell1976]

Are we really arguing whether ND or MT is colder in the winter? People in Arizona are laughing at you both.

I just think its stupid when comparing which is better ND or MT by saying ND is cold. Well if it doesn't get cold in MT then I am moving there. But guess what their snowstorms move from MT into ND. But I guess ncbears must not realize that.

[Gil Dobie]

Agreed, Panther Rob... I apologize and take my prediction back! How's this: NDSU goes undefeated this year, their last before moving to the FBS, on their way to being crowned National Champs. There, that's much more likely to happen.


Alright, now back to acid and bag of hallucinogenic mushrooms... xrotatehx

Can't go undefeated, UNI owns the known football world............. ;)

[Gil Dobie]

Who cares about 70% when you've got 3 straight...It's like a YSU fan pointing out their NC when we mention our winning streak. It's about the present and future, the past won't win you games.

I'd rather have the NC than a winning streak.

[Gil Dobie]

I'll call BS on this. I've been to both places. In town is maybe similar, but Montana is more beautiful with more to do.

I've been both place too, and you are just taking sides.

[Gil Dobie]

It actually makes sense, ND State fans living in the 80's and when you go to Fargo they are just now discovering parachute pants and listening to Thriller.

Speak for yourself, Greeley is still living in the 1960's. Mork and Mindy lifestyle thrives in Colorado, except Denver which is still living in the Wild West mentality.

[Gil Dobie]

I gotta go with Montana on this. The Rocky Mountains are a great place to live. North Dakota is cold, flat and isolated. I've been there and would rather live in Moscow than live any where in ND.

I like both Montana and North Dakota, and Moscow probably would be a nice place to visit Colorado comrade.

[Willie]

There's more things to do in Fargo-Moorhead than in Missoula. You don't want to go down the route of "There's nothing to do in Fargo" because you'll never win. F-M is not a little college town.
I'm from Montana, went to college in Moorhead for 4 years. F-M is fun SOMETIMES, when you're 21. Montana is fun all the time. Since I've lived in both, your argument makes me laugh.

[ncbears]

I just think its stupid when comparing which is better ND or MT by saying ND is cold. Well if it doesn't get cold in MT then I am moving there. But guess what their snowstorms move from MT into ND. But I guess ncbears must not realize that.


Don't be stupid. Of course it gets cold in the Rockies. However, if it does get cold I would rather have some fun in it, like skiing. I doubt people in ND do much skiing (downhill of course). I just think if you take a poll of most Americans about whether they would want to live in the Rockies or ND during the winter, most would say the Rockies.

[ncbears]

Speak for yourself, Greeley is still living in the 1960's. Mork and Mindy lifestyle thrives in Colorado, except Denver which is still living in the Wild West mentality.

I don't think NoCo lives in Greeley and neither do I. I hate Greeley. Poke fun of it all you want, doesn't bother me.

[PantherRob82]

I've been both place too, and you are just taking sides.

Isn't that what one does when they state an opinion?

[JSUBison]

I will grant you the point that Montana has more natural beauty with the trees, mountains and what not. But you guys have some of the ugliest, Love Canal, haz-mat having cities I've ever seen. I thought Billings was bad, and then I got to Butte. If you've never been to Butte, just go buy Fallout 3 for X-Box and you'll get the idea.

[darell1976]

Don't be stupid. Of course it gets cold in the Rockies. However, if it does get cold I would rather have some fun in it, like skiing. I doubt people in ND do much skiing (downhill of course). I just think if you take a poll of most Americans about whether they would want to live in the Rockies or ND during the winter, most would say the Rockies.

The poll would look like this... MT 10% ND 5% somewhere warm 85%xlolx

[Willie]

I will grant you the point that Montana has more natural beauty with the trees, mountains and what not. But you guys have some of the ugliest, Love Canal, haz-mat having cities I've ever seen. I thought Billings was bad, and then I got to Butte. If you've never been to Butte, just go buy Fallout 3 for X-Box and you'll get the idea.
And Dickinson, Valley City, Mayville, etc. are better?

[darell1976]

And Dickinson, Valley City, Mayville, etc. are better?

No just Grand Forks.:D

[Gil Dobie]

Isn't that what one does when they state an opinion?

Then you need to get out and see the world Rob. I really don't see anything better in Montana, ND or Iowa that makes it better than anyplace else. Each area has it's good points if your mind is open.

[Gil Dobie]

I don't think NoCo lives in Greeley and neither do I. I hate Greeley. Poke fun of it all you want, doesn't bother me.

I can understand living in Loveland ;)

[Gil Dobie]

I'm from Montana, went to college in Moorhead for 4 years. F-M is fun SOMETIMES, when you're 21. Montana is fun all the time. Since I've lived in both, your argument makes me laugh.

It's all relative, if you have more fun in the mountains then it's Montana, if you have more fun at the lake then it's FM.

[PantherRob82]

Then you need to get out and see the world Rob. I really don't see anything better in Montana, ND or Iowa that makes it better than anyplace else. Each area has it's good points if your mind is open.

When did I say they didn't have their good points? I just said Montana was better. No need to get hurt feelings over an opinion. xrolleyesx

[PantherRob82]

It's all relative, if you have more fun in the mountains then it's Montana, if you have more fun at the lake then it's FM.

There are lakes in Montana.

[Gil Dobie]

There are lakes in Montana.

There's hills in North Dakota too.

[Gil Dobie]

When did I say they didn't have their good points? I just said Montana was better. No need to get hurt feelings over an opinion. xrolleyesx

It takes more than an opinion from a person attending football games in 2 different states to hurt my feelings. At least Willie's opinion carries weight, he spent time at both places.

[NDB]

There are like 40x the number of Californian's in MT.

ND wins hands down.

[ncbears]

There are like 40x the number of Californian's in MT.

ND wins hands down.

There are 60X the Californians in Colorado.

[TokyoGriz]

I really think of Billings as being part of North Dakota cause its so out of place with western montana cities. Butte is a city with a copper mine pit that is over a mile deep and couple miles wide.... filled with acid water.... so ya its a real dump. Part of the city might fall into the pit actually... But the people in butte are its asset. Good sense of humor, they like to party and have fun. Guess they need a positive outlook to live there lol.

The REAL montana, least the one I and most others love is Western Montana. The only cities I considered to actually have any real culture, arts, sports, partys, good looking women and overall livability are Missoula, Kalispell (The whole Flathead Lake area by Glacier), Bozeman (Ugh MSU but eh..).

back to thread topic ... Good luck with your xfer guys. Hopefully he works out for ya. Would like to see you come to town in the playoffs, lets see if you can pull a "South Dakota State" for us. They always give us the most entertaining games. Real nail biters but sooooo satisfying in the end.

[Gil Dobie]

back to thread topic ... Good luck with your xfer guys. Hopefully he works out for ya. Would like to see you come to town in the playoffs, lets see if you can pull a "South Dakota State" for us. They always give us the most entertaining games. Real nail biters but sooooo satisfying in the end.

Think we have a home-and-home coming up in the next few years. I would rather see a repeat of the 2003 game though and add on to our little 3 game winning streak over the Griz.

[LakesBison]

montana doesnt have the 4th of july,summer, ladies and lakes that NDSU has, nope never ever.

here's a sample.

case closed.

[gobison.gsb]

Ok. Everyone is obviously happy living where they are, enough to have populations living in all of the places mentioned. Not everyone goes to lakes, skis, or does whatever people do wherever they are, so in a nutshell, every city in the US (and basically the world) has its negatives and positives. No ones opinion makes it better than the other, it all depends on where YOU are happy living. Please stop trying to make everyone agree to your own personal opinions.

[Jacked_Rabbit]

I dunno, Lakes, I may need a few more pictures - just to be 100% sure...... haha!

[bkit29]

I really think of Billings as being part of North Dakota cause its so out of place with western montana cities. Butte is a city with a copper mine pit that is over a mile deep and couple miles wide.... filled with acid water.... so ya its a real dump. Part of the city might fall into the pit actually... But the people in butte are its asset. Good sense of humor, they like to party and have fun. Guess they need a positive outlook to live there lol.

The REAL montana, least the one I and most others love is Western Montana. The only cities I considered to actually have any real culture, arts, sports, partys, good looking women and overall livability are Missoula, Kalispell (The whole Flathead Lake area by Glacier), Bozeman (Ugh MSU but eh..).

back to thread topic ... Good luck with your xfer guys. Hopefully he works out for ya. Would like to see you come to town in the playoffs, lets see if you can pull a "South Dakota State" for us. They always give us the most entertaining games. Real nail biters but sooooo satisfying in the end.

I thought Kalispell was an armpit of a town, but Whitefish was awesome, and flathead lake was really awesome. When I was vacationing at my wife's aunt's cabin, we stopped at a little grocery store near the lake, and ran into Phil Jackson buying grocerys. I would have to say that Fargo is a better place to live, and the mountains of montana are a better place to vacation.

[LakesBison]

jacked... i dunno... we'll see how far our friendship goes.. haha