View Full Version : And it starts...Nebraska to Big10
NSUDemon98
June 9th, 2010, 11:48 AM
From a poster on the McNeese board who knows pretty much everything that is going on in college athletics.
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"Nebraska has accepted an invitation to the Big 10, so expect the chips to start to fall. Missouri will probably be next. Baylor is pulling every political chip it has to remain with UT and it appears UT will insist that Baylor goes where they go. All of college football will be affected by this move by Nebraska as Kansas is sweating bullits that they could be left to join the Mountain West, etc. It looks like the Pac 10 East could be a reality.
*This is not an official release by Nebraska, but a source that I trust says the decision was made last night. Missouri is meeting tomorrow for a vote."
http://nebraska.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=181&tid=134230852&mid=134230852&sid=928&style=2
Big Al
June 9th, 2010, 12:03 PM
That is just about the least credible source I can think of.
carney2
June 9th, 2010, 12:05 PM
From a poster on the McNeese board who knows pretty much everything that is going on in college athletics.
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"Nebraska has accepted an invitation to the Big 10, so expect the chips to start to fall. Missouri will probably be next. Baylor is pulling every political chip it has to remain with UT and it appears UT will insist that Baylor goes where they go. All of college football will be affected by this move by Nebraska as Kansas is sweating bullits that they could be left to join the Mountain West, etc. It looks like the Pac 10 East could be a reality.
*This is not an official release by Nebraska, but a source that I trust says the decision was made last night. Missouri is meeting tomorrow for a vote."
Whose decision? It's one thing if Nebraska has "decided" that they will go if invited. It's another thing altogether to actually receive an invitation. There is not one hint anywhere that the Big Ten has moved beyond the internal discussion and "feeler" stage. Besides, of all the schools being bandied about as potential new Big Ten members, Nebraska was consistently a bottom feeder in the group. They bring very little to the table. Their TV market is non-existent. Their non-football sports are lame. Their academic record and accomplishments are poor. (Believe it or not, this last point is important. It is a major reason that Texas has been spurning the SEC where only Florida is in the top 15 or 20 academically for large public universities.)
This sounds more like rumor mongering than information dissemination.
NSUDemon98
June 9th, 2010, 12:06 PM
I guess we'll see...won't we?
gbhmt
June 9th, 2010, 12:28 PM
http://www.omaha.com/article/20100608/NEWS01/100609687#nu-to-big-10-as-early-as-friday
There's a better source.
NSUDemon98
June 9th, 2010, 12:30 PM
http://www.omaha.com/article/20100608/NEWS01/100609687#nu-to-big-10-as-early-as-friday
There's a better source.
Thanks....half the posts on AGS are littered with cow crap and petty swipes at other schools anyway...so if I was wrong my post would have fit in nicely! xlolx
Lehigh Football Nation
June 9th, 2010, 12:34 PM
http://www.omaha.com/article/20100608/NEWS01/100609687#nu-to-big-10-as-early-as-friday
There's a better source.
An executive at a Big 12 school relayed to The World-Herald on Tuesday that he expects Nebraska to become a member of the Big Ten as early as Friday.
xrolleyesx
Yeah, someone with that level of access would leak that to the Omaha World-Herald. Riiiight. xlolx
MplsBison
June 9th, 2010, 04:14 PM
xrolleyesx
Yeah, someone with that level of access would leak that to the Omaha World-Herald. Riiiight. xlolx
You don't think the World-Herald would pay someone off to get an exclusive?
That's too much of an east coast move? ;)
Squealofthepig
June 9th, 2010, 04:32 PM
The announcement does seem a bit early, given the Nebraska regents are meeting on Friday. Still, hard to fault them if they do move, given the money and the divorce from Texas' homefield conference championships. *cough, cough* So very very weird now hoping for my alma mater Mizzou to go to the Big Ten (whatever it'll be called - perhaps The Catalyst Conference?)
Dunno about anyone else, but I'm not used to this much football overload in June!
Edit: Although the original sources were kinda dubious, they seem to be getting confirmation from other sources now. ESPN's latest:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5268408
Franks Tanks
June 9th, 2010, 05:51 PM
The announcement does seem a bit early, given the Nebraska regents are meeting on Friday. Still, hard to fault them if they do move, given the money and the divorce from Texas' homefield conference championships. *cough, cough* So very very weird now hoping for my alma mater Mizzou to go to the Big Ten (whatever it'll be called - perhaps The Catalyst Conference?)
Dunno about anyone else, but I'm not used to this much football overload in June!
Edit: Although the original sources were kinda dubious, they seem to be getting confirmation from other sources now. ESPN's latest:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5268408
Nebraska has such a long history with the schools of the old Big 8. Nebraska to the Big 10 makes sense in many ways, but its a bit sad to see them move away from tradition.
bkrownd
June 9th, 2010, 06:00 PM
Unfortunately tradition started going out the window 20 years ago when everyone began selling their soul for the almighty television dollar. The BigXII kind of kept the Big8 on life support, but the shift of Oklahoma to the south division was one nail in the coffin of the traditional Big 8. The other nail in the coffin was the last decade of underperformance, bitterness and confusion in Lincoln. People are eager to close that chapter and move on.
Franks Tanks
June 9th, 2010, 06:10 PM
Chip Brown from orangebloods.com was just on ESPN. He said that UT officials said the Big 12 is dead. Nebraska and Missouri will move to the Big 10 (that would make 13 teams so at least one other school would be joining).
He also states that UT, A&M, Tech, Okie, Okie State, and Colorado will be moving to the Pac-10. These super conferences will be difficult to get used too-- many of these teams will seldom play each other despite being in the same conference.
TexasTerror
June 9th, 2010, 06:57 PM
Yes, Chip Brown's Twitter sure has been popular...
Said that Texas and A&M will be meeting on Thursday to hash some things out. They're a package deal...
Nebraska will accept the Big 10 invite and Missouri will follow with hopes of Notre Dame?
Wonder where Baylor falls into this since the Texas Legislature may make it tough...
darell1976
June 9th, 2010, 07:07 PM
As a Cornhuskers fan for over 20 years I am excited for them to be in the Big 10. I can drive to Minneapolis and watch them battle the Gophers in their new TCF Stadium. It will be nice to see a "sea of red" among the maroon and gold.xthumbsupx
TexasTerror
June 9th, 2010, 07:09 PM
Just trying to make some sense of things, just random thoughts...
Big 10 <--- Nebraska (Big 12), Missouri (Big 12), Notre Dame (Big East)
Pac 10 <--- Texas (Big 12), Texas A&M (Big 12) , Texas Tech (Big 12), Oklahoma (Big 12), Oklahoma State (Big 12), Colorado (Big 12)
Mountain West <----Kansas (Big 12), Kansas State (Big 12), Boise State (WAC)
WAC <--- Cal Poly (Big West), Sacramento State (Big Sky), Montana (Big Sky), Montana State (Big Sky)
C-USA <--- Baylor (Big 12), Louisiana Tech (WAC)
Big East <--- Central Florida (C-USA), East Carolina (C-USA)
TBA <--- Iowa State (Big 12)
darell1976
June 9th, 2010, 07:11 PM
Just trying to make some sense of things, just random thoughts...
Big 10 <--- Nebraska (Big 12), Missouri (Big 12), Notre Dame (Big East)
Pac 10 <--- Texas (Big 12), Texas A&M (Big 12) , Texas Tech (Big 12), Oklahoma (Big 12), Oklahoma State (Big 12), Colorado (Big 12)
Mountain West <----Kansas (Big 12), Kansas State (Big 12), Boise State (WAC)
WAC <--- Cal Poly (Big West), Sacramento State (Big Sky), Montana (Big Sky), Montana State (Big Sky)
C-USA <--- Baylor (Big 12), Louisiana Tech (WAC)
Big East <--- Central Florida (C-USA), East Carolina (C-USA)
TBA <--- Iowa State (Big 12)
Why wouldn't the Big 10 try to invite them instead of Missouri. That way you have a Iowa-Iowa State conference rival.xconfusedx
TexasTerror
June 9th, 2010, 07:12 PM
TXST, UTSA and the other schools looking to move up will have to wait...
Once the Big 12 picture is clear, the Mountain West (followed by the Western Athletic and perhaps C-USA) will respond, starting off a series of moves that could impact the Sun Belt and Southland.
IF Notre Dame or a Big East school is added to the Big 10 with Missouri and Nebraska to reach 14 schools, then a separate chain of events could occur that would impact the Big East (followed by C-USA and perhaps the Sun Belt) with potential further impact down the run on the Southland.
Trying to figure out where the Atlantic Coast and Southeastern play into this...
gbhmt
June 9th, 2010, 07:13 PM
Why wouldn't the Big 10 try to invite them instead of Missouri. That way you have a Iowa-Iowa State conference rival.xconfusedx
1. Missouri has a much larger national fanbase and is more competitive athletically.
2. Iowa-Iowa State is definitely not a rivalry at this point.
TexasTerror
June 9th, 2010, 07:13 PM
Why wouldn't the Big 10 try to invite them instead of Missouri. That way you have a Iowa-Iowa State conference rival.xconfusedx
Good point...Iowa State is in the AAU...
http://www.aau.edu/about/article.aspx?id=5476
Would the Iowa Legislature throw a hissy fit if Iowa State is left out in the cold?
FargoBison
June 9th, 2010, 07:16 PM
Iowa State is the red headed step child in the state of Iowa so I doubt it. I don't see the Big 10 adding Iowa State under any circumstance.
doolittledog
June 9th, 2010, 07:20 PM
1. Missouri has a much larger national fanbase and is more competitive athletically.
2. Iowa-Iowa State is definitely not a rivalry at this point.
Missouri potentially brings in more TV sets than ISU. Mizzou is not more competitive athletically. They have the fewest Big 12 championships of any team in the Big 12. If you mean football, well maybe you have a point. Then again, Mizzou was passed over for ISU for the Insight Bowl last season...so hmm.
2. Iowa-Iowa State is definately a rivalry at this point. But, as an Iowan, I would want to see Mizzou in the Big Ten over ISU right now.
doolittledog
June 9th, 2010, 07:25 PM
Good point...Iowa State is in the AAU...
http://www.aau.edu/about/article.aspx?id=5476
Would the Iowa Legislature throw a hissy fit if Iowa State is left out in the cold?
Iowa State is better academically than Mizzou and the Iowa Governor has said he would try to help ISU. But it's really just lip service. Mizzou sounds like a better school to the general public than ISU and I would love to see a western division of the the Big Ten with...
Nebraska
Minnesota
Iowa
Missouri
Wisconsin
Northwestern
Illinois
and...dare I say...Notre Dame...if the Big Ten ends up with 16 instead of 14xchinscratchx
As an Iowa fan I would love to see the Nebraska and Notre Dame fan bases horror at seeing Iowa...and probably Wisconsin continually beat them out for the western division titlexlolx
Go...gate
June 9th, 2010, 07:26 PM
Based on this, I cannot see Rutgers in the Big Ten, though they are a far better fit academically than Nebraska and in a better TV market.
bkrownd
June 9th, 2010, 07:29 PM
I still think Kansas is a better fit for the Big10 than Missouri. Missouri is SEC material. Too bad it looks like Turner Gill is going to get the raw end of all this just as his time at Kansas begins.
Go...gate
June 9th, 2010, 07:32 PM
Iowa State is better academically than Mizzou and the Iowa Governor has said he would try to help ISU. But it's really just lip service. Mizzou sounds like a better school to the general public than ISU and I would love to see a western division of the the Big Ten with...
Nebraska
Minnesota
Iowa
Missouri
Wisconsin
Northwestern
Illinois
and...dare I say...Notre Dame...if the Big Ten ends up with 16 instead of 14xchinscratchx
As an Iowa fan I would love to see the Nebraska and Notre Dame fan bases horror at seeing Iowa...and probably Wisconsin continually beat them out for the western division titlexlolx
But ND could sell moving to the Big Ten more readily if it could play Iowa and Nebraska, which it did for many years. ND fans can live with that a lot more than ND-Rutgers or ND-Syracuse.
darell1976
June 9th, 2010, 07:33 PM
With these new teams what will the Big 10 called? The big 14 or 16 or whatever?
Go...gate
June 9th, 2010, 07:37 PM
With these new teams what will the Big 10 called? The big 14 or 16 or whatever?
I bet they will return to their original conference name from 80-90 years ago..."The Western Conference". I actually like that nod to tradition.
Skjellyfetti
June 9th, 2010, 07:40 PM
It's sounding like Missouri is not getting an invite.
PantherRob82
June 9th, 2010, 07:49 PM
Why wouldn't the Big 10 try to invite them instead of Missouri. That way you have a Iowa-Iowa State conference rival.xconfusedx
St Louis and Kansas City markets.
PantherRob82
June 9th, 2010, 07:50 PM
2. Iowa-Iowa State is definitely not a rivalry at this point.
Seriously? xlolxxnonono2x
PantherRob82
June 9th, 2010, 07:51 PM
Would the Iowa Legislature throw a hissy fit if Iowa State is left out in the cold?
Gov Culver says he is going to push this. Not sure this matters.
MplsBison
June 9th, 2010, 08:24 PM
It's sounding like Missouri is not getting an invite.
After all this time, I did not expect this..but sounds like you're right!
Nebraska to the Big 10 and that's it until Notre dame decides to join.
aggiemba
June 9th, 2010, 08:26 PM
Just trying to make some sense of things, just random thoughts...
Big 10 <--- Nebraska (Big 12), Missouri (Big 12), Notre Dame (Big East)
Pac 10 <--- Texas (Big 12), Texas A&M (Big 12) , Texas Tech (Big 12), Oklahoma (Big 12), Oklahoma State (Big 12), Colorado (Big 12)
Mountain West <----Kansas (Big 12), Kansas State (Big 12), Boise State (WAC)
WAC <--- Cal Poly (Big West), Sacramento State (Big Sky), Montana (Big Sky), Montana State (Big Sky)
C-USA <--- Baylor (Big 12), Louisiana Tech (WAC)
Big East <--- Central Florida (C-USA), East Carolina (C-USA)
TBA <--- Iowa State (Big 12)
Looks just about right to me except for I would replace either Cal Poly or Sac. State with UC Davis depending on which one of them was more ready money wise.
GeauxLions94
June 9th, 2010, 08:36 PM
After all this time, I did not expect this..but sounds like you're right!
Nebraska to the Big 10 and that's it until Notre dame decides to join.
So does that mean Nebraska is leaving one Big 12 for another xconfusedx
If Mizzou is not going to the Big 10, then the current Big 12 could possibly survive by picking up TCU to replace Nebraska (assuming none of the six bolt for the Pac-10 and the non-Texas schools don't get pissed with the addition of another school from the Lone Star State). UT can get form its own network and KU, KState, Iowa State could breathe a huge sigh of relief ... for now.
JohnStOnge
June 9th, 2010, 08:39 PM
That is just about the least credible source I can think of.
If he's talking about Zem, and that's who that language looks like, you couldn't be more wrong. Zem is a VERY reliable source. I'll have to go over to the McNeese board now and look.
JohnStOnge
June 9th, 2010, 08:41 PM
Yep. It's Zem. Take it to the bank.
gbhmt
June 9th, 2010, 09:14 PM
Seriously? xlolxxnonono2x
I would bet any Iowa fan would take a win against any conference opponent over a win over ISU.
And as a student at a Big Ten school and from frequenting multiple BT message boards, Iowa State is hardly being discussed and is definitely not being desired from what I've observed.
BigHouseClosedEnd
June 9th, 2010, 09:17 PM
What has there been to indicate that Missouri is not getting an invite to the Big 10?
We didn't know that Nebraska officially had an invite until after their Trustees approved the deal.
I would assume Nebraska was just able to get their Trustees together faster than Missouri could.
AppMan
June 9th, 2010, 09:54 PM
Could a third division emerge from the aftermath of these moves? Seems to me the next logical step. When the dust settles I wouldn't be suprised to see 4 super conferences with the Big XII & Big East gone forever.
If the Big Ten adds Neb, Missouri, Rutgers, Syracuse, and Notre Dame. If the Pac Ten takes Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Colorado, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State. If the SEC raids the ACC of Miami, FSU, Clemson, and Ga Tech. If the ACC counters by taking in WVA, Pitt, and UConn. A good friend in the business thinks Vandy is not happy in the SEC and could wind up being the 4th replacement team. If so, with the likes of Baylor, Iowa Sate, Kansas, K State, Louisville, S Fla, and Cincinnati all left searching for a home, how fierce will the competitoin be to land that coveted spot in the SEC? That will leave CUSA, Mountain West, WAC, MAC, & SunBelt out of any possible ties to the upper crust. Around 60 schools looking for some identity. I can guarantee you it won't be in the FCS.
Is there a possibility Baylor, Rice, TCU, Houston, SMU, Tulsa, UTEP, and Tulane form up under the old Southwest Conference name?
DFW HOYA
June 9th, 2010, 09:57 PM
Around 60 schools looking for some identity. I can guarantee you it won't be in the FCS.
You quickly learn here that no one drops down to join the subdivision.
carney2
June 9th, 2010, 10:04 PM
1. Missouri has a much larger national fanbase and is more competitive athletically.
2. Missouri has the St. Louis and Kansas City TV markets.
superman7515
June 9th, 2010, 11:08 PM
An athletic director with knowledge of the Big Ten said, "Missouri is getting cold shoulder from Big Ten."
Joe Schad of ESPN reported Wednesday that the Big Ten list of interest for expansion goes like this: 1) Notre Dame 2) Nebraska 3) Rutgers and/or Maryland.
Also have three seperate indepent newspapers reporting that it is a done deal, Nebraska is signed, sealed, delivered to the Big Ten according the Chicago Tribune, Houston Chronicle, and Lawrence Journal-World. Reports: Nebraska, Big Ten walking hand-in-hand (http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/95991319.html)
superman7515
June 9th, 2010, 11:13 PM
They're also now saying that Colorado has officially recieved an invitation to leave for the Pac-10. Source: CU already has Pac-10 invite (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5270048)
BigHouseClosedEnd
June 9th, 2010, 11:21 PM
An athletic director with knowledge of the Big Ten said, "Missouri is getting cold shoulder from Big Ten."
Joe Schad of ESPN reported Wednesday that the Big Ten list of interest for expansion goes like this: 1) Notre Dame 2) Nebraska 3) Rutgers and/or Maryland.
Also have three seperate indepent newspapers reporting that it is a done deal, Nebraska is signed, sealed, delivered to the Big Ten according the Chicago Tribune, Houston Chronicle, and Lawrence Journal-World. Reports: Nebraska, Big Ten walking hand-in-hand (http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/95991319.html)
Maybe they're getting the 'cold shoulder' now, but you have to imagine they're waiting for the PAC-10 to 'blow things up'. That way they can at least rationalize in their own minds that they didn't cause the earthquake.
Just wait. The 6 schools will go to the PAC-10 and the dominoes will really start to fall.
doolittledog
June 9th, 2010, 11:27 PM
Iowa St is hoping Missouri doesn't go to the Big Ten. Then there will be ISU, Mizzou, KU, and K State all close by each other to try to pick up the scraps. Those 4 schools might be able to make something work. If it was just ISU, KU and K State they would be in a world of hurt.
ngineer
June 10th, 2010, 12:32 AM
I noticed the 'crawl' on my TV screen tonight reported the that "Board of Regents" has approved Nebraska's move to the Big 10.
Regarding LFN's note on governmental involvement...I wouldn't be surprised. Why should these huge multi-million dollar operations that are paying their coaches obscene amounts of money to coach, receive tax-exempt status. They can easily carve out the athletic programs and have them operate separately, as they basically do now.
AppMan
June 10th, 2010, 07:16 AM
Based on this, I cannot see Rutgers in the Big Ten, though they are a far better fit academically than Nebraska and in a better TV market.
I think Rutgers is as much a lock for the Big Ten as there can be. All these schools are outstanding academic institutions, so you must think in terms of TV revenue. I have been told by a very informed source the NY market Rutgers brings to the Big Ten television package means an additiional $1.4 million PER SCHOOL. In effect they are buying their way into the conference.
saint0917
June 10th, 2010, 07:30 AM
Hello MODS wake up, shouldn't this be moved to "Other Sports", What does this have to do with "FCS Discussion"????xconfusedx
Longhorn
June 10th, 2010, 12:01 PM
Is there a possibility Baylor, Rice, TCU, Houston, SMU, Tulsa, UTEP, and Tulane form up under the old Southwest Conference name?
Yes, with the possibility of adding North Texas, and possibly Ark St., and in the not too distant future UTSA and TxSt.
The "new" SWC might then be organized into two 6 team divisions such as:
North Division
SMU
TCU
Tulsa
North TX
Ark St.
UTEP
South Division
Rice
Houston
Tulane
UTSA
TXSt.
Baylor
UNIFanSince1983
June 10th, 2010, 03:51 PM
Yes, with the possibility of adding North Texas, and possibly Ark St., and in the not too distant future UTSA and TxSt.
The "new" SWC might then be organized into two 6 team divisions such as:
North Division
SMU
TCU
Tulsa
North TX
Ark St.
UTEP
South Division
Rice
Houston
Tulane
UTSA
TXSt.
Baylor
Would TCU leave a strong, and probably getting stronger MWC to go to this proposed conference? I seriously doubt it...
WestCoastAggie
June 10th, 2010, 03:59 PM
2. Missouri has the St. Louis and Kansas City TV markets.
Somehow Nebraska was able to convince the Big-10 that they have the Kansas City market and that Illinois has the St. Louis market already.
Mizzou is out in the cold now if they don't get that "coveted" Big 10 Invite.
AppAlum96
June 10th, 2010, 04:05 PM
If a team leaves the Big 12 for the Big 10, are they now both the Big 11? They should just combine into the Massive 22.
Lehigh Football Nation
June 10th, 2010, 04:08 PM
Somehow Nebraska was able to convince the Big-10 that they have the Kansas City market and that Illinois has the St. Louis market already.
Mizzou is out in the cold now if they don't get that "coveted" Big 10 Invite.
Not if they join the Big East.
WestCoastAggie
June 10th, 2010, 04:10 PM
Not if they join the Big East.
For real??? xeyebrowx That's interesting.
MorgantonAPPAlum
June 10th, 2010, 04:12 PM
Not if they join the Big East.
You don't think its more likely for the SEC to come calling? After all they share a border with Arkansas, no other Big East football team is really that close to Missouri.
Big Al
June 10th, 2010, 04:33 PM
I guess we'll see...won't we?
*shrugs*
I guess I didn't know McNeese message boards were a hotbed of inside information.
We'll see how much of that statement plays out to be true.
Thanks for the negative reps, btw.
UNIFanSince1983
June 10th, 2010, 04:34 PM
If a team leaves the Big 12 for the Big 10, are they now both the Big 11? They should just combine into the Massive 22.
Might have made sense if the Big 10 hadn't had 11 teams in it since like 1993 or so...
Franks Tanks
June 10th, 2010, 04:38 PM
If a team leaves the Big 12 for the Big 10, are they now both the Big 11? They should just combine into the Massive 22.
Actually the Big 12 now has 10 teams and the Big 10 has 12.
Maybe they should swap names!
Lehigh Football Nation
June 10th, 2010, 04:42 PM
You don't think its more likely for the SEC to come calling? After all they share a border with Arkansas, no other Big East football team is really that close to Missouri.
What if they got Kansas at the same time?
Then they'd have Louisville, Mizzou and Kansas. Adding Kansas is a great idea for BE basketball. Adding Kansas AND Missouri puts them on another planet.
WestCoastAggie
June 10th, 2010, 04:44 PM
What if they got Kansas at the same time?
Then they'd have Louisville, Mizzou and Kansas. Adding Kansas is a great idea for BE basketball. Adding Kansas AND Missouri puts them on another planet.
What about those travel budgets for the non-revenue sports? That's a long flight from Kansas to Rhode Island.
Big Al
June 10th, 2010, 05:33 PM
What if they got Kansas at the same time?
Then they'd have Louisville, Mizzou and Kansas. Adding Kansas is a great idea for BE basketball. Adding Kansas AND Missouri puts them on another planet.
Would they need to rename it the Mid-East Conference? Does Osama Bin Laden become their new conference commissioner? No more negotiations, just fatwas...
TexasTerror
June 11th, 2010, 10:20 AM
FYI...
Omaha World Herald is doing a 'live blog' from the Nebraska meetings today...
http://www.omaha.com/article/20100611/NEWS/306119977#live-blog-nebraska-board-of-regents-meeting
Big Al
June 11th, 2010, 02:38 PM
Nebraska has officially accepted an invitation to join the Big Ten Conference, The World-Herald learned early Friday afternoon.
Two sources from conference offices said that Big Ten Commissioner Jim Delany contacted BIg 12 Commissioner Dan Beebe on Friday morning to inform Beebe that Delany had officially invited Nebraska to join.
A source with direct knowledge of the situation said Nebraska accepted.
Okay, so the new Big Twelve is the old Big Ten and the old Big XII is now the new Big X.
Now, what will Missouri do? Last week, their membership in the Big Ten was considered (by some) to be a fait accompli but now they're singing a whole new tune:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Suddenly-Missouri-is-very-committed-to-the-Big-;_ylt=AjhfMwVXpAUmI7mK8HFIzZ8cvrYF?urn=ncaaf,24730 9
Here's a thought for everyone:
If Missouri stays, is the Big XII still doomed? Could they pick up two teams from another conference to stay viable? If so, who?
TV revenues are driving all the decisions on the conference re-alignment, so who could the Big XII even add to keep the conference relevant on the national scene?
From a poster on the McNeese board who knows pretty much everything that is going on in college athletics.
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"Nebraska has accepted an invitation to the Big 10, so expect the chips to start to fall. Missouri will probably be next. Baylor is pulling every political chip it has to remain with UT and it appears UT will insist that Baylor goes where they go. All of college football will be affected by this move by Nebraska as Kansas is sweating bullits that they could be left to join the Mountain West, etc. It looks like the Pac 10 East could be a reality.
*This is not an official release by Nebraska, but a source that I trust says the decision was made last night. Missouri is meeting tomorrow for a vote."
http://nebraska.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=181&tid=134230852&mid=134230852&sid=928&style=2
PhoenixPhan06
June 11th, 2010, 03:38 PM
If the PAC-10 is able to swipe Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and OK State, which conference(s) would be the likely landing spots for the Baylor, Kansas, Kansas State, and Iowa State? I've gone through a few scenarios, and with the existing conferences, nothing seems to make much sense geographically.
FargoBison
June 11th, 2010, 03:40 PM
If the PAC-10 is able to swipe Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and OK State, which conference(s) would be the likely landing spots for the Baylor, Kansas, Kansas State, and Iowa State? I've gone through a few scenarios, and with the existing conferences, nothing seems to make much sense geographically.
It all depends. They could create their own conference using MWC/CUSA/Big East schools, or a few of them could join the Big East/SEC or they could end up in the MWC and CUSA.
Big Al
June 11th, 2010, 04:10 PM
or they could end up in the MWC and CUSA.
Which is a nice way of saying, "They're screwed and it really doesn't matter where they end up."
TexasTerror
June 11th, 2010, 05:51 PM
OFFICIAL...
Park Ridge, Ill.-- The Big Ten Council of Presidents/Chancellors (COP/C) announced unanimous approval today for the University of Nebraska-Lincoln (UNL) to join the Big Ten Conference effective July 1, 2011, with competition to begin in all sports for the 2011-12 academic year. UNL will also seek admission into the Committee on Institutional Cooperation (CIC), which can occur on or before July 1, 2011.
The addition of the University of Nebraska marks the Big Ten's first expansion since Penn State University joined the conference in June of 1990 and will increase Big Ten membership to 12 institutions for the first time in conference annals. Big Ten Commissioner James E. Delany will join University of Nebraska Chancellor Harvey Perlman and Director of Athletics Tom Osborne on campus in Lincoln, Neb., for press conference at 5 p.m. CT on Friday, June 11.
http://www.bigten.org/genrel/061110aab.html
bkrownd
June 11th, 2010, 06:10 PM
Which is a nice way of saying, "They're screwed and it really doesn't matter where they end up."
The Mountain West is a good conference. (provided it doesn't get pillaged too)
Funny thing about that would be that the Mountain West formed after frustration within the first modern 16-team mega-conference - the WAC.
bkrownd
June 11th, 2010, 06:11 PM
Now, what will Missouri do?
They really belong in the SEC.
bkrownd
June 11th, 2010, 08:19 PM
A&M is also more of an SEC type school. Okie-lite and raider-tech in the pac-10 would be fairly shocking
MorgantonAPPAlum
June 11th, 2010, 08:31 PM
Can't see Texas A&M going to a different conference than Texas-that's the big in-state rivalry. OTOH Texas A&M in the SEC would give that conference another (huge) market, so maybe that is the angle they are trying to play.
bkrownd
June 11th, 2010, 09:14 PM
There are numerous non-conference rivalries.
Lehigh Football Nation
June 11th, 2010, 10:50 PM
Breaking up the Texas/TAMU rivalry over a few bucks. This is what this whole thing is coming to? Sad.
Big Al
June 12th, 2010, 12:15 AM
The Mountain West is a good conference. (provided it doesn't get pillaged too)
Funny thing about that would be that the Mountain West formed after frustration within the first modern 16-team mega-conference - the WAC.
Don't get me wrong, I like the MWC. Heck, I'm a huge Utah fan, in particular.
However, any Big XII school that joins the MWC is going to take a huge hit in revenue. Iowa State, for example would be looking at a $7m-$10m budget hole from the loss of Big XII revenue. That's the funny part to me -- as bad as the Big XII treated their dregs, they knew they were lucky to be in the Big XII.
MaximumBobcat
June 12th, 2010, 01:22 AM
Breaking up the Texas/TAMU rivalry over a few bucks. This is what this whole thing is coming to? Sad.
Who said anything about breaking up the rivalry?
An annual football game CAN be done if BOTH sides work to make it happen. Maybe not on Thanksgiving Night anymore, but even that is still a possibility.
Basketball, Baseball, Softball games would be easy to schedule as well.
I think A&M is looking to the SEC partially for money, but also for other reasons as well. The Aggie fanbase just fits in better with the SEC crowd than the Pac-10 crowd, not to mention the geography is better. Watching CST/EST games is better for the fans than games that end at 1am here in Texas as well. If you can't tell, I'm all for the TAMU/UT split, but I don't think it will happen when it all shakes out. I'm crossing my fingers though, I think having two BCS conferences in the state of Texas would be fun, it's been so Big XII centric forever now that I am definitely ready for a change.
UNIFanSince1983
June 12th, 2010, 08:43 AM
IMHO, A&M is the only school with half a brain in this whole deal. Sending all those schools to the Pac-10 is an even worse fit than the Big XII North/South was. I don't see an expanded Pac-10 surviving for very long.
Yeah they are talking about not even having a Pac-10 championship game. So this would mean they basically would have a Big XII south + Arizona and ASU conference. How is that different from the Big XII other than TV revenues. I still don't understand why the Pac-10 needs to expand in order to start a TV network, but hey what do I know.
TexasTerror
June 12th, 2010, 08:49 AM
Who said anything about breaking up the rivalry?
An annual football game CAN be done if BOTH sides work to make it happen. Maybe not on Thanksgiving Night anymore, but even that is still a possibility.
Several in the Texas 'camp' have referenced to ending the annual football game...a shame if that were to occur.
It would not be hard to put the game on Thanksgiving, especially since there are some other inter-sectional OOC games that occur around that time.
gokats85
June 12th, 2010, 11:21 AM
Several in the Texas 'camp' have referenced to ending the annual football game...a shame if that were to occur.
It would not be hard to put the game on Thanksgiving, especially since there are some other inter-sectional OOC games that occur around that time.
This is all about the t-sips(Horns) still wanting everything THEIR way and bullying everyone else (Oklahoma, Oklahoma St.,Texas Tech and especially Baylor! As if Baylor has a shot) to get it. A&M has never said anything about ending the rivalry, but it is time for the Aggies to move on; hopefully to the SEC.
ngineer
June 12th, 2010, 12:04 PM
It will be interesting to see the kind of 'reception' the Cornhuskers will receive this year as they make their final rounds.xnodx
Cocky
June 12th, 2010, 01:28 PM
Sometimes you just have to take the Bully out back and see who the real man is.
If I were A&M I would do what I thought was best for A&M wouldn't give a rip about Texas- Austin.
LacesOut
June 12th, 2010, 11:59 PM
This stuff is just awesome! I love it!
Just two comments from me:
Nebraska made a very very smart move.
And Texas A&M should go to the SEC. No doubt. Screw UT!
bkrownd
June 13th, 2010, 07:28 PM
And Texas A&M should go to the SEC. No doubt. Screw UT!
charting a course independent from the orbit of Texas could definitely be good for them.
TexasTerror
June 13th, 2010, 11:26 PM
A&M is going to the SEC...
Kansas is apparently the new 16th team for the Pac-10, if you track the Pac-10 charter flight...
CopperCat
June 14th, 2010, 01:49 AM
I really don't know why all of a sudden everyone is talking about moving. Last season there was virtually NO talk at all, and here we are in the midst of the biggest BCS conference mixup in quite awhile. CU didn't do itself any favors by moving out of the Big 12 North, but Nebraska will be VERY competetive in the Big 10. If A&M goes to the SEC, it may take them awhile to be in the top 3 there. If UT leaves, it will be interesting to see what happens to OU, and eventually OSU. Those are two huge rivalry games that should be preserved either way.
Gil Dobie
June 14th, 2010, 07:29 AM
As a longtime Husker fan, I'm looking forward to Nebraska playing in the Twin Cities every other year. xnodx
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