Lindy's Top 25 and All-America Teams

[smallcollegefbfan]

For the record I did not forget #9 they did not list one in the mag.

Top 25:

1. Villanova
2. App St
3. Richmond
4. Montana
5. SIU
6. Elon
7. SCSU
8. SFA
10. W&M
11. EIU
12. PVAMU
13. SDSU
14. Texas St
15. Montana St
16. McNeese St
17. EWU
18. Delaware
19. Grambling St
20. Liberty
21. Missouri St
22. UNH
23. Harvard
24. Holy Cross
25. Norfolk St

[smallcollegefbfan]

Players of the Year
MVP: Matt Szczur, WR/RS, Villanova
OFF: Jeremy Moses, QB, SFA
DEF: Christian Anthony, DE, Grambling St
NEWCOMER: Aaron Corp, QB, Richmond

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Szczur could be player of the year in the preseason and not play a down for Nova this fall. Brilliant. xlolx

[WestCoastAggie]

So who missed that glaring error? Such a shame too because they have Norfolk Ranked.

[smallcollegefbfan]

ALL-FCS TEAM

OFFENSE FIRST TEAM

QB Jeremy Moses, SFA
RB Kyle Minnett, SDSU
RB Chase Reynolds, Montana
WR Da'Marcus Griggs, Texas St
WR Tysson Poots, SUU
TE Stephen Skelton, Fordham
OL Tylor Chambers, JSU
OL Johnny Culbreath, SCSU
OL Ben Ijalana, Villanova
OL David Pickard, SIU
OL Will Rackley, Lehigh
AP Matt Szczur, Villanova
K Matt Blevins, Liberty

[smallcollegefbfan]

DEFENSE FIRST TEAM
DL Christian Anthony, Grambling St
DL Christian Clark, Sac St
DL Jabari Fletcher, App St
DL Martin Parker, Richmond
LB J.C. Sherritt, EWU
LB DJ Smith, App St
LB Jabara Williams, SFA
DB Jeremy Caldwell, EKU
DB Jason House, Southern
DB Mark LeGree, App St
DB Mike McElroy, SIU
P Jonathan Plisco, ODU

[Panther88]

Christian Anthony is half-man, half-amazing. I'm really pulling for him this fall, except when he faces our PV Panthers. lol

[smallcollegefbfan]

ORDER OF FINISH

Big Sky
1. Montana
2. MSU
3. EWU
4. NAU
5. WSU
6. Sac St
7. UNC
8. ISU
9. PSU

Big South
1. Liberty
2. CSU
3. CCU
4. SBU
5. GW
6. VMI
7. PC

SoCon
1. ASU
2. Elon
3. Furman
4. GSU
5. Wofford
6. Samford
7. UTC
8. Citadel
9. WCU

CAA
1. Villanova
2. Richmond
3. W&M
4. Delaware
5. UNH
6. JMU
7. UMASS
8. Maine
9. RIU
10. Towson

MVFC
1. SIU
2. SDSU
3. MSU
4. UNI
5. Ill. St
6. YSU
7. NDSU
8. WIU
9. Indiana St

[BigHouseClosedEnd]

Cue Saint3333 saying the Spiders are over-rated in 3.... 2....

[JSU02]

For the record I did not forget #9 they did not list one in the mag.

Top 25:

1. Villanova
2. App St
3. Richmond
4. Montana
5. SIU
6. Elon
7. SCSU
8. SFA
10. W&M
11. EIU
12. PVAMU
13. SDSU
14. Texas St
15. Montana St
16. McNeese St
17. EWU
18. Delaware
19. Grambling St
20. Liberty
21. Missouri St
22. UNH
23. Harvard
24. Holy Cross
25. Norfolk St

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[TexasTerror]

SCFBFan,

Any SLC order of finish available? Based on the rankings, they have SFA followed by TXST and McN. It's just unbelievable, but I guess Lindy's feels much more comfortable with the quarterback situations at both schools than their respective coaches!

[Panther88]

ORDER OF FINISH

Big Sky
1. Montana
2. MSU
3. EWU
4. NAU
5. WSU
6. Sac St
7. UNC
8. ISU
9. PSU

Big South
1. Liberty
2. CSU
3. CCU
4. SBU
5. GW
6. VMI
7. PC

SoCon
1. ASU
2. Elon
3. Furman
4. GSU
5. Wofford
6. Samford
7. UTC
8. Citadel
9. WCU

CAA
1. Villanova
2. Richmond
3. W&M
4. Delaware
5. UNH
6. JMU
7. UMASS
8. Maine
9. RIU
10. Towson

MVFC
1. SIU
2. SDSU
3. MSU
4. UNI
5. Ill. St
6. YSU
7. NDSU
8. WIU
9. Indiana St

Poor MEAC. Still getting zero love and respect. :( xthumbsupxxreadx

[smallcollegefbfan]

SCFBFan,

Any SLC order of finish available? Based on the rankings, they have SFA followed by TXST and McN. It's just unbelievable, but I guess Lindy's feels much more comfortable with the quarterback situations at both schools than their respective coaches!

Southland
1. SFA
2. Texas St
3. McNeese St
4. UCA
5. SELU
6. NW St
7. SHSU
8. Nicholls St

OFF POY: Moses
DEF POY: Jabara Williams

[busybee14]

For the record I did not forget #9 they did not list one in the mag.

Top 25:

1. Villanova
2. App St
3. Richmond
4. Montana
5. SIU
6. Elon
7. SCSU
8. SFA
10. W&M
11. EIU
12. PVAMU
13. SDSU
14. Texas St
15. Montana St
16. McNeese St
17. EWU
18. Delaware
19. Grambling St
20. Liberty
21. Missouri St
22. UNH
23. Harvard
24. Holy Cross
25. Norfolk St

I thought Sporting news was a little off base, but this list looks like names were just being filled in to take up space.

[UNH Fanboi]

What a joke

[smallcollegefbfan]

Poor MEAC. Still getting zero love and respect. :( xthumbsupxxreadx

I just typed some of them and figured after 4 or 5 that if anyone wanted one they would ask.

Here is the MEAC
1. SCSU
2. NSU
3. FAMU
4. Hampton
5. NCAT
6. DSU
7. MSU
8. BCC
9. Howard

[smallcollegefbfan]

For those wondering Tony Moss wrote this up. He now covers the NFL for The Sports Network.

[PaladinFan]

Three App players defensive players first team all americans? Look, I mean, App plays some decent defense from time to time, but I'm not sure they will have three defensive players first team All-SoCon.

[WestCoastAggie]

I just typed some of them and figured after 4 or 5 that if anyone wanted one they would ask.

Here is the MEAC
1. SCSU
2. NSU
3. FAMU
4. Hampton
5. NCAT
6. DSU
7. MSU
8. BCC
9. Howard

I agree with #1, #8 & #9 but #2 through #7 are a little off base.

And can we get the OVC posted? Thanks!

[danefan]

For those wondering Tony Moss wrote this up. He now covers the NFL for The Sports Network.

Did he do the poll too? If he did, he's clearly lost his magic touch.

That's one of the worst polls I've ever seen.

12. PVAMU
14. Texas St
19. Grambling St
21. Missouri St
22. UNH ---- way way way too low.
23. Harvard
24. Holy Cross
25. Norfolk St

zero basis to have any of these schools at their spots.

[Panther88]

I just typed some of them and figured after 4 or 5 that if anyone wanted one they would ask.

Here is the MEAC
1. SCSU
2. NSU
3. FAMU
4. Hampton
5. NCAT
6. DSU
7. MSU
8. BCC
9. Howard

Just like giving them a hard time SCFBF. And on that note, could you post the SWAC's predicted order of finish? Thx.

[smallcollegefbfan]

Did he do the poll too? If he did, he's clearly lost his magic touch.

That's one of the worst polls I've ever seen.

12. PVAMU
14. Texas St
19. Grambling St
21. Missouri St
22. UNH ---- way way way too low.
23. Harvard
24. Holy Cross
25. Norfolk St

zero basis to have any of these schools at their spots.

Yes he did it too.

[smallcollegefbfan]

Just like giving them a hard time SCFBF. And on that note, could you post the SWAC's predicted order of finish? Thx.

East
1. Alcorn St
2. A&M
3. JSU
4. ASU
5. MVSU

West
1. PVAMU
2. GSU
3. TSU
4. Southern
5. UAPB

[Screamin_Eagle174]

ORDER OF FINISH

Big Sky
1. Montana
2. MSU
3. EWU
4. NAU
5. WSU
6. Sac St
7. UNC
8. ISU
9. PSU

Flip WSU and Sac, and that looks about right. This year more than any I really see a tossup between the top 3, with each at risk of losing to one or both of the other two.

[Saint3333]

What a joke top to bottom? ASU #2, UR #3, EIU #11, PVAM #12, UNH way too low, Texas St. too high, where's JMU, JSU, and Furman?

[busybee14]

I agree with #1, #8 & #9 but #2 through #7 are a little off base.

And can we get the OVC posted? Thanks!
West coast, you know we wont get any respect on that ranking.That will all change by the end of the year.
I would like to se the OVC as well.

[JSUBison]

What a joke

No kidding. They left out Mississippi Valley State, Campbell, and Idaho State.

[appfan2008]

typical lack of respect for fcs football

[UNHFan99]

UNH is way to low at 22.. toughest schedule since 04 maybe tougher, but we still havent finished out of the top ten in 5 years.

[Head Cat]

For those wondering Tony Moss wrote this up. He now covers the NFL for The Sports Network.
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Got to wonder why Lindy's would choose Tony Moss, someone who hasn't covered I-AA/FCS since 2003 to write an article like this? Total disrespect for FCS by recruiting someone like him to write about the subdivision. And so much for him being some sort of FCS expert. He can't even count from 1 to 25 (obviously, neither can the Lindy's editors).

And then there are all of the ridiculous teams he ranked and an All-America team that is riddled with question marks. He must have used a dart board for his rankings and his All-America team. This is what the younger generation would call AN EPIC FAIL. Even my teenage and pre-teen daughters, who do follow FCS a bit, were shaking their heads about this disaster of a preseason prognostication.

Stick with the NFL, Mr. Moss, if you even know anything about that.

[Ud1Hens]

Even my teenage and pre-teen daughters, who do follow FCS a bit, were shaking their heads about this disaster of a preseason prognostication.

That is just good parenting...xnodx

[bjtheflamesfan]

ORDER OF FINISH

Big Sky
1. Montana
2. MSU
3. EWU
4. NAU
5. WSU
6. Sac St
7. UNC
8. ISU
9. PSU

Big South
1. Liberty
2. CSU
3. CCU
4. SBU
5. GW
6. VMI
7. PC

SoCon
1. ASU
2. Elon
3. Furman
4. GSU
5. Wofford
6. Samford
7. UTC
8. Citadel
9. WCU

CAA
1. Villanova
2. Richmond
3. W&M
4. Delaware
5. UNH
6. JMU
7. UMASS
8. Maine
9. RIU
10. Towson

MVFC
1. SIU
2. SDSU
3. MSU
4. UNI
5. Ill. St
6. YSU
7. NDSU
8. WIU
9. Indiana St

Im a bit surprised that they have CSU finishing behind LU...I really have them finishing either 4th or 5th (behind the triumvirate on LU, CCU and SBU)

[Head Cat]

That is just good parenting...xnodx
My two girls have been to their share of FCS venues and a few playoff and championship games, besides the games they watch on TV. And I guarantee you that they can count from 1 to 25.

[txstatebobcat]

In TxSt's defense we have a very solid core of players coming back. If we find a QB then we will have one of the top offenses in the nation again and this year the defense will likely be at least average which is a huge improvement over the last few years. UNH at #22 is a joke though.

[Head Cat]

New Hampshire should be in the top 10, IMO, and should finish in the top three of the tough CAA. People forget that UNH was the ONLY team to beat Villanova last season in VU's title year and that UNH has a great nucleus coming back. Plus, Sean McDonnell is one of the very best coaches in FCS.

[UNH Fanboi]

New Hampshire should be in the top 10, IMO, and should finish in the top three of the tough CAA. People forget that UNH was the ONLY team to beat Villanova last season in VU's title year and that UNH has a great nucleus coming back. Plus, Sean McDonnell is one of the very best coaches in FCS.

Oh, I haven't forgotten. But honestly, it wouldn't shock me if UNH went 6-5 and finished around 22. Their schedule is so tough this year and I could see them losing to Pitt, Nova, W&M, Delaware and UMass, or some similar combination. That being said, I don't see that as the most likely result, which is what a preseason poll should reflect.

Also, PVAMU, Grambling, EIU, Missouri St, Norfolk??? This guy is on crack.

[Panther88]

Also, PVAMU, Grambling, EIU, Missouri St, Norfolk??? This guy is on crack.

Why? And please try not to use the word "history" w/ your response. For what all are returning TODAY based upon past year performance, why would you ascertain they shouldn't be ranked as high as they are?

I WISHED your school wasn't in Canada. I know we'd stomp a mudhole in your squad. xlolx And, we certainly know football in a football state. Stick to hockey mafree'. That's your expertise. :D

[UNH Fanboi]

Why? And please try not to use the word "history" w/ your response. For what all are returning TODAY based upon past year performance, why would you ascertain they shouldn't be ranked as high as they are?

I WISHED your school wasn't in Canada. I know we'd stomp a mudhole in your squad. xlolx And, we certainly know football in a football state. Stick to hockey mafree'. That's your expertise. :D

Well that's the problem. We'd be more than happy to play you in the playoffs, even on your field, but you don't participate in the playoffs. And you talk about last year's performance, but you guys only played 1 OOC game last year (which you lost, albeit closely) despite playing only 9 regular season games. So it's kind of hard to take you guys seriously as far as national rankings are concerned when you seem to make no effort to test yourselves outside of the friendly confines of the SWAC. Would it kill you to schedule a SoCon or Southland team?

[TexasTerror]

In TxSt's defense we have a very solid core of players coming back. If we find a QB then we will have one of the top offenses in the nation again and this year the defense will likely be at least average which is a huge improvement over the last few years. UNH at #22 is a joke though.

There is currently no quarterback on your roster - at this point - that anyone feels is up to snuff in being the No. 1 QB. Unless your true freshman puts up one of the best seasons for a true freshman in the history of the league, TXST will struggle to keep pace with SFA and SLU.

[JSU02]

Also, PVAMU, Grambling, EIU, Missouri St, Norfolk??? This guy is on crack.

Agreed. He pulled half of his top 25 right out of his @ss

[Panther88]

Well that's the problem. We'd be more than happy to play you in the playoffs, even on your field, but you don't participate in the playoffs. And you talk about last year's performance, but you guys only played 1 OOC game last year (which you lost, albeit closely) despite playing only 9 regular season games. So it's kind of hard to take you guys seriously as far as national rankings are concerned when you seem to make no effort to test yourselves outside of the friendly confines of the SWAC. Would it kill you to schedule a SoCon or Southland team?

It would kill "history" if we played the Southland, from what I'm beginning to just now understand. I think there are some older-heads who just don't desire to see or want PVAMU dealing w/ the SHSUs, SFAs, and the like if there isn't some type of advanced probability $$$ attached to it. (this is only my opinion from how I see it)

Prime example... PVAMU and SHSU are no more than 1hr-20min drive-time from each other. Speaking from what I'm understanding of PVAMU schedule creation, the driving force now for OOC is FBS first and foremost. We want a nice payday and also a game that lets us gauge exactly where we are. Last fall, it was New Mex St only AFTER the prior year's scheduling snafu w/ SHSU via hurricane Ike. Ensuing negotiations broke down tremendously (from what I was told) so "staff" (PV) went in another direction and it's painfully evident now since we have university of southern miss on the schedule this fall (2nd game of the season @ their place).

For myself, I'd LOVE for us to battle the likes of McNeese, SFA, and SHSU. Even better would be if we battled university of houston and rice. The creme' de la creme' would be our football team visiting kyle field FINALLY or going to austin to bump heads w/ that professional team lol called the texas longhorns. After the battle, we'd sure love the 500,000+$ paycheck we could potentially garner. :)

[HensRock]

Who's RIU? xchinscratchx xoopsx


CAA
1. Villanova
2. Richmond
3. W&M
4. Delaware
5. UNH
6. JMU
7. UMASS
8. Maine
9. RIU
10. Towson

It is really disappointing to see how much Tony Moss has lost touch with FCS.
Hey, maybe JMU, JSU and Furman were all tied at that missing #9! xlolx

[Seawolf97]

Im a bit surprised that they have CSU finishing behind LU...I really have them finishing either 4th or 5th (behind the triumvirate on LU, CCU and SBU)

Kinda surprised myself! Maybe they know something we don"t xconfusedx
Thats ok the Mad Magazine Poll is due out in August :D

[chris]

A little note about this...

No. 9 was supposed to be Colgate, and the one-liner about them was: "Patriot League’s most consistent team led by RB Nate Eachus and strong defense."

It was some sort of snafu in editing, which happens when you put out a 240-page book.

Thanks, Chris

[Mr. C]

That is the type of mistake that should NEVER happen if editing is done properly. Big embarrassment for Lindy's and Moss.

[TheValleyRaider]

No. 9 was supposed to be Colgate, and the one-liner about them was: "Patriot League’s most consistent team led by RB Nate Eachus and strong defense."

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[theasushow]

For the record I did not forget #9 they did not list one in the mag.

Top 25:

1. Villanova
2. App St
3. Richmond
4. Montana
5. SIU
6. Elon
7. SCSU
8. SFA
10. W&M
11. EIU
12. PVAMU
13. SDSU
14. Texas St
15. Montana St
16. McNeese St
17. EWU
18. Delaware
19. Grambling St
20. Liberty
21. Missouri St
22. UNH
23. Harvard
24. Holy Cross
25. Norfolk St

Ok I am without doubt one of the biggest asu fans in the world....i just find it hard to beleive a team without a quarterback can be preseason #2 in the county!? i think a lot of people may have taken AE for granted, i realize there are a ton of starters returning but without experience at qb i really dont see ASU as a preseason number 2, hopefully the neers will prove me wrong!

[ming01]

I think my daughter who hasnt been born yet could do a better top 25 then this.

[Mr. C]

One of the struggles in picking a preseason top-25 this year is that all teams have question marks, heading into a season. While ASU has a huge question mark at quarterback, the Mountaineers have fewer question marks at most other positions than some of the other teams do. Make no mistake, ASU is a very talented team.

[jmufan999]

Ok I am without doubt one of the biggest asu fans in the world....i just find it hard to beleive a team without a quarterback can be preseason #2 in the county!? i think a lot of people may have taken AE for granted, i realize there are a ton of starters returning but without experience at qb i really dont see ASU as a preseason number 2, hopefully the neers will prove me wrong!

i kind of agree, but we (JMU) got the same pre-season respect (not quite #2, but we were up there somewhere) after Rodney left. part of the benefit of being an established program. you get the opportunity to solidify (justify) your ranking, rather than having to "climb the ranks". and to be honest, i can't come up with another team deserving of #2. the other reason for ASU is because you've completely dominated the SoCon for several years now, and the SoCon champ almost always gets a seed. so that puts you at least in the top 4 at tourney time. ASU and Montana are the safest bets most years, if you go by who gets seeded/makes the tournament.

to me, it's Villanova and then everyone else. if Sczcur comes back, the only thing between them and another national title would be injuries or choking.

[txstatebobcat]

There is currently no quarterback on your roster - at this point - that anyone feels is up to snuff in being the No. 1 QB. Unless your true freshman puts up one of the best seasons for a true freshman in the history of the league, TXST will struggle to keep pace with SFA and SLU.

We have three QBs on the roster including the last year's second string Tim Hawkins. A lot of fans are currently down on Hawkins, but he did throw a touchdown against TCU (Which not every QB that played them managed to do) and had 8+ yards per carry with the limited time he played.

[SpiderFan]

Yeah there is no way the spiders should be slotted at number 3 to start the season with all the losses and question marks on the offensive line and at QB. I don't think we should be any higher than about 15 to start the season.

[JDC325]

What a joke top to bottom? ASU #2, UR #3, EIU #11, PVAM #12, UNH way too low, Texas St. too high, where's JMU, JSU, and Furman?

Agreed what a joke of a poll.

[Squealofthepig]

Lots of things to pick apart in this poll, but will stick up for one odd one (much as I hate to do it, growing up in SWMO and hating them as a team). Missouri State only had ten seniors last year, graduating only their #2 rusher and #2 receiver and kicker; played .500 ball in a tough conference, and really only had two big losses in conference (at Carbondale and at home to UNI). Are they definitely a top 25 team? Well, probably not, but given how hard it is to judge 21-25 three months in advance, don't find them in this poll to be too upsetting.

[JSU02]

A little note about this...

No. 9 was supposed to be Colgate, and the one-liner about them was: "Patriot League’s most consistent team led by RB Nate Eachus and strong defense."

It was some sort of snafu in editing, which happens when you put out a 240-page book.

Thanks, Chris

That would make the poll even more laughable

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[ThompsonThe]

Well, let's vote New Hampshire # 9, even though they might should be higher.

What did happen to JMU last year? Did they lose their QB?
Also, Delaware had a pretty good FBS QB coming in last year. Did he not turn out too good or was he injured?
Would think both those teams will do pretty well this year.

[danefan]

Tony's discusses his picks in an exclusive interview at CS.com

http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=15923

[elon77]

Why is Richmond picked higher than Bill and Mary in all the polls? Didn't they loose a bunch and W&M have a ton coming back? xconfusedx

[LeadBolt]

Why is Richmond picked higher than Bill and Mary in all the polls? Didn't they loose a bunch and W&M have a ton coming back? xconfusedx

Richmond has a quarterback coming in from USC of which great things are expected. The question is whether they will have a line to protect him.