Lane Kiffin to USC

[Shellin]

Looks like Tennessee coach Lane Kiffin has accepted the same position at USC after just one year in Knoxville...If I were a Vols fan I'd be rather upset about this, it definitely leaves them in a pretty bad position with signing day upcoming. For USC it seems like a pretty solid hire (especially after their top 3 choices said no), Kiffin recruits solid players and violates recruiting rules, so he should fit in just fine at SC.

http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/ncf/news/story?id=4820737

[Big Al]

That is complete and utter insanity. I wonder how long into the probation he'll regret this decision.

Vols fans must be homicidal.

[TTUEagles]

You can hear the hemorrhaging of Vols Fans all over the place here in Tennessee. I personally could care less.
But, Lane Kiffin is doing now what he said he would do: unite the U of Tennessee fans...but, they are united in hating his guts.
I am curious to see who UT goes after now: Skip Holtz, D Cutcliffe, Patterson (TCU), M Leach???

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Ultimately UT will be better off and USC will fall. This is a dumb move by the Trojans imo. Kiffin will jump at the best pro job he can get.

[McNeese75]

Looks like another Whore in the house xrotatehx

[appmaj]

wow.........

[Shellin]

Looks like Kiffin has a the makings a pretty solid staff with his dad as D.C., Norm Chow for O.C. and bringing Ed Oregeron over with him as a recruiting coordinator. As of right now the Chow deal isn't set, but it looks like it will go that way.

[ngineer]

Kiffin=Douche Bag

xsmhx

[T-Dog]

The students aren't taking it well.

http://www.wbir.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=110451&catid=2

[gmoney55]

You usually feel bad for the coach that has to take over a program on probation because of what the last staff did....but something feels right about Kiffin taking over a Trojans team that minimum probably won't be going to a bowl this season.

[laxVik]

As a pac-10 fan this is a great move. I will detest USC even more now.

[andy7171]

Something needs to be done about coaches sticking to their contracts. This is complete BS. His recruiting class last winter is F'ed.

[appmaj]

Who is next for UT?

[AshevilleApp2]

Ultimately UT will be better off and USC will fall. This is a dumb move by the Trojans imo. Kiffin will jump at the best pro job he can get.

xnodx

The Vols will be better off in the long run. Kiffin seems to be a walking recruiting violation.

[AshevilleApp2]

Who is next for UT?

ESPN rumor has it that David Cutcliff from Duke might get the job.

[Gil Dobie]

The ole Bloomington Jefferson Alum (MN) is making a name for himself in the football world. xlolx

Probably will be more famous for a more recent alum, Cole Aldrich. xthumbsupx

[catamount man]

There is no integrity at the BCS conferences level of college football. NONE!!!!

ESPN, big fat contracts-which aren't worth the paper that they are written on BTW-, recruiting of kids involving cash, cars, and whores, coaches not having integrity.

ALL of the above are what is ruining a once proud football tradition. I am PROUD to be a fan of FCS football and even the smaller levels because only a handful of coaches at the BCS level have integrity and 9 out of 10 of them having losing records. But they sleep well at night.

:(

[Skjellyfetti]

Something needs to be done about coaches sticking to their contracts. This is complete BS. His recruiting class last winter is F'ed.

Not to mention the early enrollees in this class that were supposed to start classes this week. Juco QB Tyler Bray's familly had moved to Knoxville.

Kiffin is a douchebag.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a78/nursetpd/TSB/The_New_Beverly_Hillbillies.gif

[jstate83]

You can hear the hemorrhaging of Vols Fans all over the place here in Tennessee. I personally could care less.
But, Lane Kiffin is doing now what he said he would do: unite the U of Tennessee fans...but, they are united in hating his guts.
I am curious to see who UT goes after now: Skip Holtz, D Cutcliffe, Patterson (TCU), M Leach???

Tennesse fans won't be mad long but they will curse kiflin forever cause a LOT of them never warmed up to him in the first place.
Looking at this, the rest need to be happy because the way Kiflin was going, Tennesse was going to be showing him the door in after next year anyway.
Tennessee fans are on the talk radio shows here saying "Good riddance" already.
Kiflin just saved Tennessee millions in buyout money by bolting.

BTW:
Kiflin don't need to schedule Tennessee anytime soon. xlolx

[GannonFan]

Something needs to be done about coaches sticking to their contracts. This is complete BS. His recruiting class last winter is F'ed.

Eh, if you don't know what you're getting into regarding top level DI athletics then it's hard to have too much sympathy. This has been going on for decades and there's no reason not to be aware that your coach could skip out at a moment's notice. Heck, if these guys actually met Kiffin they should've realize that was even more likely with this guy considering how shallow the dude is. If they went to UT thinking they were going to get 4-5 years there under Kiffin, they were either extremely naive or dumb or both.

As for USC, assuming they don't get any NCAA sanctions, I don't see how this is a bad thing for them. The rest of the Pac-10 already hated USC anyway, and Kiffin isn't a terrible coach. Plus, he's bringing his dad as DC and likely Chow as the OC and kids will keep coming to USC so recruiting won't be difficult. Like I said, if no sanctions come down, USC is going to keep winning. It may feel slimey, but that's BCS-level football for you.

[Big Al]

I believe Kiffin owes UT $800k now. Kiffin had a rep before he was hired at UT, I can't think they're caught completely off guard with this move.

I'm just looking forward to the hammer coming down on USC athletics. I know the NCAA has stated they would never institute another death penalty but I personally think they should be more liberal with it's use. 'Bama winning a BCS trophy while under "probation" is a complete farce.

[proasu89]

Skjelly just posted on the MMB that Kiffen left his brother-in-law high and dry. David Reeves, former App QB, was an assistant @ UT. He and other assistants that were not going with him found about this when it hit the press. Nice, real nice. Should make family gatherings a little more interesting.

[Skjellyfetti]

http://media.govolsxtra.com/media/img/photos/2010/01/12/kiffin_atb_06_t607.jpg

http://media.govolsxtra.com/media/img/photos/2010/01/12/011210sports8.mc_t607.jpg

[DG Cowboy]

I were a Vols fan I'd be rather upset about this.

http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/ncf/news/story?id=4820737

If I were a Vols fan, which I am not, getting rid of Kiffin would make me happy.

[TTUEagles]

"Paris Hilton has paid more dues than Lane Kiffin." - Pat Forde, espn.com

Nice. Outside of UT fans, which should be plenty upset more so on the timing of the thing than just the coach leaving, who's upset here and why?. It all comes down to that this is just a job. Maybe like most of the jobs we out here in cyber-world have, but it's a job. It's not illegal, unethical? - mabye, but, if someone wants another job that he sees as better - for him - why not? Again, terrible timing, but it's a game and he's paid to win games and entertain...
If Tennessee really wanted to keep him, they should've had a bigger buyout or tried more at the last minute to up the ante to get him to stay (maybe they did?)..But, in the end, people are going to where they think they'll be the happiest and where the "grass is greener."

[CollegeSportsInfo]

If Urban Meyer had left Florida for real this year, and Charlie Strong took the job, would there be such a stink? Probably not. And Strong had only been the Louisville coach for a couple weeks.

There are a few rare circumstances where a coach at a top BCS program would leave for another top BCS program. It happens in basketball as well. There's the "prestige" move to another school and then there is the "nostalgia/previously employed" motivation.

Kiffin returning to USC after only a year at UT is one of these circumstances. This isn't Kiffin leaving for Florida or Texas...he's going back to his previous school.

It's unfortunate for the great fans of UT, but as Urban Meyer said, there's never a good time for a coach to move.

UT is still a great program and will do fine. There are already candidates lined up who in many peoples eyes are a better fit than Kiffin was anyways. And Kiffin at USC with Coach O (and Monte and perhaps Chow) is a much better fit than that staff in Knoxville.

Both programs will benefit.

[GannonFan]

I believe Kiffin owes UT $800k now. Kiffin had a rep before he was hired at UT, I can't think they're caught completely off guard with this move.


Can't be a biggie for the $800k - normally the hiring school covers the cost of a buyout when they poach a coach like this. I'm sure USC's going to give Kiffin enough to cover that. Besides, as buyouts go, UT messed up with such a small buyout amount - a school like USC would never balk at an $800k number. Of course, UT would have trouble bringing in a high profile coach if they made the buyout too high.

[TTUEagles]

footballscoop.com says Jon Gruden has officially turned UT down. No surprise there: leave a high $$ job with MNF for far more hours weekly of work and probably less $$$.

[GannonFan]

footballscoop.com says Jon Gruden has officially turned UT down. No surprise there: leave a high $$ job with MNF for far more hours weekly of work and probably less $$$.


Gruden turned down better college football gigs than Tennessee in the past, and that was before he evolved into one of the best TV guys like he is now. Can't imagine him turning down the money and easy job he has now (from a time required standpoint) to take a job where he needs to hustle 24/7 365 days a year trying to convince high school kids to play for him while mollifying boosters and fans - easy decision.

[onbison09]

People are pretty pissed in Tennessee. STRONG LANGUAGE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYAsxnRaTAg

[jstate83]

Runaway Lane.....Never come Back. xlolx (http://www.box.net/shared/0gok96fjoh)

[Hoyadestroya85]

Am I the only person who thinks this is a good hire?

[Skjellyfetti]

Am I the only person who thinks this is a good hire?

Nah, Mike Garrett thinks it's a good hire. But... yeah... y'all are probably the only two. :p

[TTUEagles]

"Tennessee: Our sources tell us AD Mike Hamilton is researching Mississippi State head coach Dan Mullen. We have also heard an unbelievable name for the Tennessee job. Not sure how we can get this one further confirmed, but a source close to this particular head coach tells us, “Trust me. If Tennessee offers, it will happen.” This would be a huge splash hire for the Vols and equally surprising as Kiffin leaving for SC."

From footballscoop.com
Anybody care to wager who this is? Spurrier? Jeff Fisher? (2 names I've already heard on talk radio as almost tongue-in-cheek rumors).

I don't know why I'm on this thread so much, I don't even like UT, but, maybe because that's all that's on the news around here.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

"Tennessee: Our sources tell us AD Mike Hamilton is researching Mississippi State head coach Dan Mullen. We have also heard an unbelievable name for the Tennessee job. Not sure how we can get this one further confirmed, but a source close to this particular head coach tells us, “Trust me. If Tennessee offers, it will happen.” This would be a huge splash hire for the Vols and equally surprising as Kiffin leaving for SC."

From footballscoop.com
Anybody care to wager who this is? Spurrier? Jeff Fisher? (2 names I've already heard on talk radio as almost tongue-in-cheek rumors).

I don't know why I'm on this thread so much, I don't even like UT, but, maybe because that's all that's on the news around here.

Fisher has been rumored to be tired of Bud Adams. Still, i don't see him as a college coach.

[TTUEagles]

Fisher has been rumored to be tired of Bud Adams. Still, i don't see him as a college coach.

Being a huge Titans fan and not-so-much with UT, I would freak if Fisher went to UT. I highly doubt it because Fisher has 2 years left at almost $16 mil. Even UT wouldn't want to pay that.

I think this rumor sounds like Spurrier to me...(he's a native of a town very near Knoxville).

[SuperJon]

Am I the only person who thinks this is a good hire?

No. I think he'll be successful.

[CollegeSportsInfo]

Fisher has been rumored to be tired of Bud Adams. Still, i don't see him as a college coach.

I'm sure if he was going to take a college job, he would have taken the USC job when the school contacted him. He also played for USC.

[CollegeSportsInfo]

Am I the only person who thinks this is a good hire?

It's as good a hire as you could possibly get when you put it in perspective.

You bring in a firey coach who has a history there and knows what it takes. Kiffin was key on the previous staff....along with Ed Orgeron who handles the recruiting, and did so for USC. Monte Kiffin is one of the best in the sport. AND you could potentially bring back Norm Chow, although that's no lock. But it's not like USC won't have it's choice of OCs.

The Kiffin hire is so strong because you're only as good as your coaching staff and this is a staff that is better built for USC than UT.

[ngineer]

Something needs to be done about coaches sticking to their contracts. This is complete BS. His recruiting class last winter is F'ed.

Why not make it NCAA policy that a coach who leaves before contract term must 'sit out' a year just like transfers have to.

[SuperJon]

Why not make it NCAA policy that a coach who leaves before contract term must 'sit out' a year just like transfers have to.

Cause that's just dumb and no one would agree with that.

[Skjellyfetti]

Huesman is officially my second favorite coach in the SoCon:


“You want my honest reaction? I think it’s ridiculous,” Huesman said. “I think it’s a joke that the guy does that to the University of Tennessee. ... That’s my personal opinion and you can write any of that you want.

“I think he’s a complete idiot,” he said,

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2010/jan/14/huesman-kiffins-act-ridiculous/
xsmileyclapx

[Big Al]

One one level, there's no debate it's a good hire. Kiffin will win at USC and keep on bringing in the top-tier recruits.

It's a bad hire if you have any sort of respect for football players as student athletes, recruiting standards or decorum in general. This hire shows USC cares about winning and nothing else. HOW they go about doing that is almost immaterial.


It's as good a hire as you could possibly get when you put it in perspective.

You bring in a firey coach who has a history there and knows what it takes. Kiffin was key on the previous staff....along with Ed Orgeron who handles the recruiting, and did so for USC. Monte Kiffin is one of the best in the sport. AND you could potentially bring back Norm Chow, although that's no lock. But it's not like USC won't have it's choice of OCs.

The Kiffin hire is so strong because you're only as good as your coaching staff and this is a staff that is better built for USC than UT.

[GannonFan]

One one level, there's no debate it's a good hire. Kiffin will win at USC and keep on bringing in the top-tier recruits.

It's a bad hire if you have any sort of respect for football players as student athletes, recruiting standards or decorum in general. This hire shows USC cares about winning and nothing else. HOW they go about doing that is almost immaterial.


That shipped sailed decades ago - top flight DI athletics, in football and men's basketball in particular, ceased being about those things a long time ago.

[jstate83]

USC is going to regret this by year #2.
Kiflin recruit well but he ain't showed anything as a shot caller.
I just don't get all the hub-bub.

He didn't nothing in Oakland and he didn't show nothing at Tennessee even though it was his first year.
He bought in some heavy recruits and it's not like Phat Phill left the program bare.

He makes too many boneheaded decisions if you were watching Tennessee this past year.
You know he didn't do anything at Oakland but I'll give him Oakland.
Nobody is going to do well there with Grandma running the ownership ship. xlolx

[TTUEagles]

USC is going to regret this by year #2.
Kiflin recruit well but he ain't showed anything as a shot caller.
I just don't get all the hub-bub.

He didn't nothing in Oakland and he didn't show nothing at Tennessee even though it was his first year.
He bought in some heavy recruits and it's not like Phat Phill left the program bare.

He makes too many boneheaded decisions if you were watching Tennessee this past year.
You know he didn't do anything at Oakland but I'll give him Oakland.
Nobody is going to do well there with Grandma running the ownership ship. xlolx

Yes, but, I'll have to agree with what Kiffin said in his USC press conference. Oakland was better in a lot of offensive categories and win total than in the year before he started there. And, his win total at UT was better than the previous year. Recruiting class in one and a half months of work was rated better than in the previous 2-3 classes. He did have a point there. Just like in recruits or draft picks, do you go with the "known" or the "upside"/potential?

[CollegeSportsInfo]

One one level, there's no debate it's a good hire. Kiffin will win at USC and keep on bringing in the top-tier recruits.

It's a bad hire if you have any sort of respect for football players as student athletes, recruiting standards or decorum in general. This hire shows USC cares about winning and nothing else. HOW they go about doing that is almost immaterial.

You lost me. How does USC hiring one of it's former assistant coaches to be head coach any fault to USC? We see it all the time with coaches. So are you saying that if Tee Martin was the New Mexico head coach this season and got a call from Tennessee, that Tennessee would be at fault? Or what if an Ohio St. assistant coach Heacock left to become head coach for South Dakota...then Tressel goes to the NFL...and Ohio St. hires Heacock? Is Ohio St. at fault? No.

You are pointing blame at USC when frankly, there is nobody at fault. Kiffin left Tennessee for a better job. skip Holtz left ECU for a better job. Is he disrespecting the ECU players he recruited last week? No.

[GannonFan]

USC is going to regret this by year #2.
Kiflin recruit well but he ain't showed anything as a shot caller.
I just don't get all the hub-bub.

He didn't nothing in Oakland and he didn't show nothing at Tennessee even though it was his first year.
He bought in some heavy recruits and it's not like Phat Phill left the program bare.

He makes too many boneheaded decisions if you were watching Tennessee this past year.
You know he didn't do anything at Oakland but I'll give him Oakland.
Nobody is going to do well there with Grandma running the ownership ship. xlolx

The thing is, he's still bringing his Dad to coach the defense and likely Norm Chow to do the offense. Monte Kiffin is probably one of the best DC's at any level and Chow ain't no slouch either. With the level of recruits that USC already gets, and the addition of those coordinators, Lane could sit back and no nothing and still be incredibly successful at USC.

[CollegeSportsInfo]

The thing is, he's still bringing his Dad to coach the defense and likely Norm Chow to do the offense. Monte Kiffin is probably one of the best DC's at any level and Chow ain't no slouch either. With the level of recruits that USC already gets, and the addition of those coordinators, Lane could sit back and no nothing and still be incredibly successful at USC.

No Chow, but still, they shouldn't have nay problems with the OC position.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Prediction, Notre Dame beats USC next year!!

[Big Al]

This has nothing to do with UT but rather Kiffin's own record. He was part of Carroll's regime during the Reggie Bush period which, according to the reports, is about to go before the NCAA's infractions council. Plus, he has a spate of several minor violations from his year at UT. USC has a problem with recruiting compliance and bringing Kiffin back says, in short "We don't care about how it's done, we just care about winning."

I will say this -- Kiffin/Harbaugh should make for some mighty entertaining back-and-forth.


You lost me. How does USC hiring one of it's former assistant coaches to be head coach any fault to USC? We see it all the time with coaches. So are you saying that if Tee Martin was the New Mexico head coach this season and got a call from Tennessee, that Tennessee would be at fault? Or what if an Ohio St. assistant coach Heacock left to become head coach for South Dakota...then Tressel goes to the NFL...and Ohio St. hires Heacock? Is Ohio St. at fault? No.

You are pointing blame at USC when frankly, there is nobody at fault. Kiffin left Tennessee for a better job. skip Holtz left ECU for a better job. Is he disrespecting the ECU players he recruited last week? No.

[TTUEagles]

It's David Cutcliffe (Duke) to UT (not confirmed)...Wonder if the Duke fans will curse Cutcliffe, burn mattresses, call for physical harm to Cutcliffe, for UT is "screwing" Duke now - hiring him in the middle of prime recruiting season...?

[GeauxLions94]

It's David Cutcliffe (Duke) to UT (not confirmed)...Wonder if the Duke fans will curse Cutcliffe, burn mattresses, call for physical harm to Cutcliffe, for UT is "screwing" Duke now - hiring him in the middle of prime recruiting season...?

Duke has a football team xconfusedx

... and Chow is staying in Westwood
Norm Chow to Remain At UCLA (http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/ncf/news/story?id=4825852)

[Reign of Terrier]

It's David Cutcliffe (Duke) to UT (not confirmed)...Wonder if the Duke fans will curse Cutcliffe, burn mattresses, call for physical harm to Cutcliffe, for UT is "screwing" Duke now - hiring him in the middle of prime recruiting season...?

that sucks for Duke...you could tell he was building something but his age suggests he can't turn the program around in that much time

if true good hire for UT (he coached the Manning brothers)

[BDKJMU]

Am I the only person who thinks this is a good hire?


No. I think he'll be successful.


One one level, there's no debate it's a good hire. Kiffin will win at USC and keep on bringing in the top-tier recruits.

Bottom line is USC just hired a 32 year old coach with a 5-15 record HC record with the Raiders and 7-6 at Tennessee.

On top of that, he's a walking NCAA recruiting infraction.

Highly likely he won't be anywhere near as successful as Carroll:
* Two BCS Championship Game appearances (win over Oklahoma, and a loss to Texas)
* Two national championships, including the AP 2003 national championship and the undisputed 2004 national championship.
* Seven consecutive Associated Press Top-4 finishes
* A record six BCS bowl victories
* A record seven consecutive BCS bowl appearances
* A record seven consecutive years as Pac-10 Champions or Co-Champions
* A national-record 33 consecutive weeks as AP's No. 1-ranked team
* A winning record of 97–19 (85.6%), including 16–2 against traditional rivals Notre Dame and UCLA
* A NCAA record of 63 straight 20-point games
* Twenty-five All-American first teamers
* 53 players selected in the NFL Draft, including 14 in the first round.[46]
* Three Heisman Trophy winners (Carson Palmer, 2002; Matt Leinart, 2004; Reggie Bush, 2005)
* Four Top-5 recruiting classes
* Win streaks for home games (34) and Pac-10 home games (22).
* In 2007, USC became the first NCAA FBS team to achieve six consecutive 11-win seasons.[47] In 2008, USC added an unprecedented seventh consecutive 11-win season.
* 28–1 in the month of November
* Only team in history to win three consecutive Rose Bowl Games

In July 2007, ESPN.com named USC its #1 team of the decade for the period between 1996 and 2006, primarily citing the Trojans' renaissance and dominance under Carroll.[48][49] In 2007, his effect on the college football landscape was named one of the biggest developments over the past decade in ESPN the Magazine.[50] In May 2008, Carroll was named the coach who did the most to define the first 10 years of the BCS Era
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Carroll

[TTUEagles]

Wrong again...Cutcliffe withdraws his name. They should name Kippy Brown coach and go from there...Bring his brother, Gerald Brown (former TTU WR coach and current ATL Falcons RB coach) with him and move on.

[CollegeSportsInfo]

It's David Cutcliffe (Duke) to UT (not confirmed)...Wonder if the Duke fans will curse Cutcliffe, burn mattresses, call for physical harm to Cutcliffe, for UT is "screwing" Duke now - hiring him in the middle of prime recruiting season...?

Cutliffe turned Ut down since UT would not give him control over hiring assistants.

[CollegeSportsInfo]

This has nothing to do with UT but rather Kiffin's own record. He was part of Carroll's regime during the Reggie Bush period which, according to the reports, is about to go before the NCAA's infractions council. Plus, he has a spate of several minor violations from his year at UT. USC has a problem with recruiting compliance and bringing Kiffin back says, in short "We don't care about how it's done, we just care about winning."

I will say this -- Kiffin/Harbaugh should make for some mighty entertaining back-and-forth.

We're not talking about an OJ Mayo situation where the coach was reportedly in the loop with paying a player. The Reggie Bush incident was regarding an agent. So while we all want to be high and mighty and think that a coach is responsible for everything, we need to accept that it just isn't the case. We hear "infractions" and we're conditioned to think it has to do with the coaching staff. But unless you have your players locked away when they aren't on the field/court, players will have to make decisions on their own. And Bush made a poor decision.

[jstate83]

Wrong again...Cutcliffe withdraws his name. They should name Kippy Brown coach and go from there...Bring his brother, Gerald Brown (former TTU WR coach and current ATL Falcons RB coach) with him and move on.
It's going to be Louisna Tech's Dooley. xpeacex
They are talking now.

Don't put any stock into Houstons head coach taking the job since he just signed an extension that pushed him over the $1 million salary mark at houston.

Lou. Tech's Dooley is top candidate for Tennessee job. (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4829107)

Louisiana Tech football coach Derek Dooley, son of legendary coach Vince Dooley, has emerged as the top candidate to replace Lane Kiffin as Tennessee's football coach, sources close to the situation told ESPN.com on Friday.

An announcement could be made by Tennessee officials as early as Friday. However, a source told ESPN.com that the deal is not finalized and that Houston's Kevin Sumlin remains a possibility.

[CollegeSportsInfo]

I think every expected it would eventually be Dooley (which it was). It was just ANOTHER case of ESPN reporting something as finalized and then having to retract it when Dooley had not yet been offered. In fact, ESPN was reporting it was a done deal based solely on Dooley visiting Knoxville to interview.

[Ivytalk]

It's funny as heck when big-time FBS schools hire a new coach faster than greased lightning. Pathetic too.

[Skjellyfetti]

It's funny as heck when big-time FBS schools hire a new coach faster than greased lightning. Pathetic too.

This time of year they don't have a choice. And it's not just big-time FBS schools. You think La Tech is scrambling to quickly hire a new coach? (scholarship) FCS schools would be rushing as well if their coach left 3 weeks before NSD.

[blueballs]

This time of year they don't have a choice. And it's not just big-time FBS schools. You think La Tech is scrambling to quickly hire a new coach? (scholarship) FCS schools would be rushing as well if their coach left 3 weeks before NSD.

It happened twice at GSU and everybody saw the results on the field this past year.xbawlingx

[Big Al]

No, they aren't the same but it has long been known that Carroll gave a lot of agents and sports marketers access to the USC locker room, including the guys who were trying to woo Bush. Carroll absolutely should know what's going on inside his own facility and who the people who are getting/asking for access are.


We're not talking about an OJ Mayo situation where the coach was reportedly in the loop with paying a player. The Reggie Bush incident was regarding an agent. So while we all want to be high and mighty and think that a coach is responsible for everything, we need to accept that it just isn't the case. We hear "infractions" and we're conditioned to think it has to do with the coaching staff. But unless you have your players locked away when they aren't on the field/court, players will have to make decisions on their own. And Bush made a poor decision.