Fill in the blank: 5 of the last 11 ______

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

A) Payton award winners are SoCon players
B) National Championships have been won by SoCon teams
C) both of the above make true statements

xcoolx

[ASU_Fanatic]

c ?

[appstate1998]

and we have no team in the title game so who cares

[argh!]

championship games have included montana?

[GolfingGriz]

championship games have included montana?

Nah, we're one better than that at 5 out of 10.

[Hoyadestroya85]

And... they have no team in the championship for the second year in a row..

[Native]

And... they have no team in the championship for the second year in a row..

CAA-SOCON National Championship games:

SOCON - 2, CAA - 0

[Hoyadestroya85]

CAA-App St. National Championship games:

App St. - 2, CAA - 0

fixed it

[BigHouseClosedEnd]

fixed it

xlolxxthumbsupx

[soccerguy315]

"5 of the last 11 both of the above make true statements" does not make any sense.

so it can't be C.

[Native]

fixed it

The SOCON has won a majority of CAA vs SOCON playoff match ups for the past decade, too. xeyebrowx

[JMUNJ08]

The SOCON has won a majority of CAA vs SOCON playoff match ups for the past decade, too. xeyebrowx

JMU vs. Furman? UR vs. Elon? UR vs App St.? JMU vs. Wofford?

ASU over JMU, UR, UR...

I know those are the recent ones...

[BigHouseClosedEnd]

The SOCON has won a majority of CAA vs SOCON playoff match ups for the past decade, too. xeyebrowx

Do you have some numbers to back this up? Not saying you're wrong ... just what are the numbers?

Richmond is 3-3 vs. SoCon teams in the playoffs this decade by my count.

[AppState]

Fill in the blank: 5 of the last 11 ______

Beers I drank tonight were unnecessary.

[Zangzigger]

5 of the last 11 numbers if you start counting from 2 are odd

[Big Al]

The SOCON has won a majority of CAA vs SOCON playoff match ups for the past decade, too. xeyebrowx

Oh, I've already gone down that road. It isn't as pretty as CAA fans like to think.

[Native]

Oh, I've already gone down that road. It isn't as pretty as CAA fans like to think.

I join CAA fans in celebrating their fantastic achievements this year and this decade, but the mindless declarations that CAA is strongest conference of the decade is without basis. For example, SOCON leads in the numbers of national championships won, percentage of playoff games won, and head-to-head playoff victories versus the CAA.

[Native]

Do you have some numbers to back this up? Not saying you're wrong ... just what are the numbers?

Richmond is 3-3 vs. SoCon teams in the playoffs this decade by my count.

SOCON has won 9 of 17 head-to-head match ups versus the CAA in the past decade, including two national championship games.

2000: No head to head match ups
2001: App > W&M
2002: Villa > Furman, Maine > App, Ga So > Maine
2003: Wofford >Delaware
2004: UNH > Ga So, JMU > Furman
2005: Furman > Richmond
2006: App > UMass (NC)
2007: App > JMU, Richmond > Wofford, App > Richmond, App > Delaware (NC)
2008: JMU > Wofford, Richmond > App
2009: Richmond > Elon, App > Richmond

Corrections appreciated.

[soccerguy315]

looks like ASU has accounted for 2/3 of the SoCon wins against the CAA. Lot of SoCon pride riding on the success of one program.

[Native]

looks like ASU has accounted for 2/3 of the SoCon wins against the CAA. Lot of SoCon pride riding on the success of one program.

That's one tactic. xrolleyesx

Another would be to congratulate the SOCON for a fantastic decade!xnodxxthumbsupx

[Skjellyfetti]

looks like ASU has accounted for 2/3 of the SoCon wins against the CAA. Lot of SoCon pride riding on the success of one program.

And App only has 1/4 of the SoCon National Championships. xeekx

[mtbigdog]

Five of the last 11--Villanova fans that showed up for a game left at halftime?

[Native]

5 of the last 11 CAA posters had to twist the stats to justify CAA as the #1 conference of the decade. xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolx xwhistlex

[Shellin]

5 of the last 11...threads on AGS have turned into a pissing match between the CAA and the Big Sky or Socon. Nevermind, that number seems awfully low.

[soccerguy315]

And App only has 1/4 of the SoCon National Championships. xeekx

not since 2000. xthumbsupx

I am happy to congratulate ASU as the best team of the decade though. That is well deserved. xnodx

[Native]

5 of the last 11...threads on AGS have turned into a pissing match between the CAA and the Big Sky or Socon. Nevermind, that number seems awfully low.

xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolx I have done my part! :D Cannot let those smackers get away with BS! xcoolx

[AppIAA]

There is absolutely no point in arguing if the CAA is better.. hell, they think they are better than the SEC, ACC, Pac 10, etc.. C'mon guys, it's completely obvious that the CAA can not be touched by any one..

Last rumor I heard -- West Virginia, UVa, and Pitt all want to leave their respective conferences and join the CAA so they can get some real competition.

xpeacex

[saccat]

When I first saw this thread I thought it was about Tiger Woods.

[blueballs]

JMU vs. Furman? UR vs. Elon? UR vs App St.? JMU vs. Wofford?

ASU over JMU, UR, UR...

I know those are the recent ones...

GSU over UMASS in 1999
GSU over UD and Hofstra in 2000
GSU over Maine in 2002

UNH over GSU in 2004

[blueballs]

And App only has 1/4 of the SoCon National Championships. xeekx

You sure about that???

Remember, the first four NC's that GSU won were won as an independent.

[ur2k]

Not again

xoopsx

xdeadhorsex

[Native]

When I first saw this thread I thought it was about Tiger Woods.

xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolx xrotatehx

[UncleSam]

The SOCON has won a majority of CAA vs SOCON playoff match ups for the past decade, too. xeyebrowx

Not true, since 2000, it's 10 wins each.

[BigHouseClosedEnd]

5 of the last 11 CAA posters had to twist the stats to justify CAA as the #1 conference of the decade. xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolx xwhistlex

Really? The title of the thread, itself, is number twisting. The Georgia Southern fan had to dig into the late 90's to try and make a point about the current decade. xrulesx

'5 out of the last 11' xconfusedx

[jmufan999]

i love how fans from non-App State SoCon schools love to ride the coattails. i see BSC doing the same thing with Montana.

who would be riding coattails in the CAA? Delaware? no, they have a title. what about UMass? nope, title there too. JMU? Title. Richmond? Title. Nova? we'll see. must just be a huge coincidence that we have different schools winning title after title after title after title. moral of the story: don't claim conference superiority if your team is doing nothing to help the conference's image. App State has the right to sell their program as one of the best in the country. but don't fly the SoCon banner, you have to fly the App State banner until another SoCon program gains relevance.

[AppIAA]

i love how fans from non-App State SoCon schools love to ride the coattails. i see BSC doing the same thing with Montana.

who would be riding coattails in the CAA? Delaware? no, they have a title. what about UMass? nope, title there too. JMU? Title. Richmond? Title. Nova? we'll see. must just be a huge coincidence that we have different schools winning title after title after title after title. moral of the story: don't claim conference superiority if your team is doing nothing to help the conference's image. App State has the right to sell their program as one of the best in the country. but don't fly the SoCon banner, you have to fly the App State banner until another SoCon program gains relevance.

You're right.. that whole 1-2 years without "relevance" makes the entire conference weak for the past 47 years.. Man, why didn't I think of that?? Great logic..

[Native]

i love how fans from non-App State SoCon schools love to ride the coattails. i see BSC doing the same thing with Montana.

who would be riding coattails in the CAA? Delaware? no, they have a title. what about UMass? nope, title there too. JMU? Title. Richmond? Title. Nova? we'll see. must just be a huge coincidence that we have different schools winning title after title after title after title. moral of the story: don't claim conference superiority if your team is doing nothing to help the conference's image. App State has the right to sell their program as one of the best in the country. but don't fly the SoCon banner, you have to fly the App State banner until another SoCon program gains relevance.

I am an FCS fan, and I will fly whatever banner I choose. xlolx

All I ask is that you get your facts straight. xrulesx

[89Hen]

And... they have no team in the championship for the second year in a row..
So next year do we get a "5 of the last 12 __________" thread? :p

[SideLine Shooter]

Not true, since 2000, it's 10 wins each.

So, that makes the CAA more dominate and the better conference?xlolx

[GoneTribal]

You're right.. that whole 1-2 years without "relevance" makes the entire conference weak for the past 47 years.. Man, why didn't I think of that?? Great logic..

considering the thread title only goes back 11 years, I think the prior 36 you are referring to are completely irrelevant in this discussion xsmhx but why stay on topic when you can figure out another way to bash the CAA

[UMass922]

SOCON has won 9 of 17 head-to-head match ups versus the CAA in the past decade, including two national championship games.

2000: No head to head match ups
2001: App > W&M
2002: Villa > Furman, Maine > App, Ga So > Maine
***2003: Wofford >Delaware***
2004: UNH > Ga So, JMU > Furman
2005: Furman > Richmond
2006: App > UMass (NC)
2007: App > JMU, Richmond > Wofford, App > Richmond, App > Delaware (NC)
2008: JMU > Wofford, Richmond > App
2009: Richmond > Elon, App > Richmond

Corrections appreciated.

In what alternate universe did Wofford beat UD in '03? I remember the Hens winning the national title that year. xsmiley_wix

[caribbeanhen]

SOCON has won 9 of 17 head-to-head match ups versus the CAA in the past decade, including two national championship games.

2000: No head to head match ups
2001: App > W&M
2002: Villa > Furman, Maine > App, Ga So > Maine
2003: Wofford >Delaware
2004: UNH > Ga So, JMU > Furman
2005: Furman > Richmond
2006: App > UMass (NC)
2007: App > JMU, Richmond > Wofford, App > Richmond, App > Delaware (NC)
2008: JMU > Wofford, Richmond > App
2009: Richmond > Elon, App > Richmond

Corrections appreciated.

Wofford was a great team in 2003, but no match for Delaware in the semis

[caribbeanhen]

So, that makes the CAA more dominate and the better conference?xlolx

4 teams in, 4 advance - has this ever happened before?

[blukeys]

SOCON has won 9 of 17 head-to-head match ups versus the CAA in the past decade, including two national championship games.

2000: No head to head match ups
2001: App > W&M
2002: Villa > Furman, Maine > App, Ga So > Maine
2003: Wofford >Delaware
2004: UNH > Ga So, JMU > Furman
2005: Furman > Richmond
2006: App > UMass (NC)
2007: App > JMU, Richmond > Wofford, App > Richmond, App > Delaware (NC)
2008: JMU > Wofford, Richmond > App
2009: Richmond > Elon, App > Richmond

Corrections appreciated.


How did Delaware win the National Champioship in 2003 and lose to Wofford???

SoCon won 8 of 17 head matchups

[AppIAA]

Told you there is no point in arguing.. even when facts are brought out, the CAA fans come out with a "Well, we just KNOW we are better" or a "Change the period in which you're looking at" or a "there's a west coast bias now".. Absolutely no point; they will not concede even when facts are there

[ASU_Fanatic]

fixed itlol

[Native]

In what alternate universe did Wofford beat UD in '03? I remember the Hens winning the national title that year. xsmiley_wix

:o Thanks for the correction! xthumbsupx I found another game to consider and I am re-working the numbers.

[Native]

Not true, since 2000, it's 10 wins each.

Ooops! :o

Thanks for the catch, Sam. xthumbsupx

I will crunch the numbers again.

[Reign of Terrier]

How did Delaware win the National Champioship in 2003 and lose to Wofford???

SoCon won 8 of 17 head matchups

xshhhx

[blueballs]

SOCON has won 9 of 17 head-to-head match ups versus the CAA in the past decade, including two national championship games.



2000: GSU> Hofstra, GSU> Delaware

[State Line Liquors]

2000: GSU> Hofstra, GSU> Delaware

I understand the argument. Just check the year the CAA began football. UD wasn't in the CAA in 2000.