Non BCS Bowls

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Few thoughts

Temple is Bowling!! After 30 years we've finally made it back. Temple accepted an invite to the Eagle Bank Bowl in Washington D.C. The cool thing is will only be 2.5 hours away from Philly. If Navy beats Army this weekend we'll play UCLA. If Army wins it'll be a rematch with the Black Knights. I'm obviously pulling for Navy. The biggest negative is the game will be played Tuesday Dec. 29 at 4:30 pm. It's going to be frickin cold.

Northwestern is playing in a New Years Day bowl.

WVU-FSU, well they did end up screwing WVU. No way does FSU derserve to be in this game over Miami. WVU vs the "U" could have been the best game on NYD. Instead we get to watch the Mountaineers beat up on 6-6 Seminole team.

[TheValleyRaider]

New Mexico
Fresno State vs. Wyoming

St. Petersburg
UCF vs. Rutgers

R+L Carriers New Orleans
Southern Miss vs. Middle Tennessee

MAACO Las Vegas
Oregon State vs. BYU

S.D. County Credit Union Poinsettia
Utah vs. Cal

Sheraton Hawaii
Nevada vs. SMU

Little Caesars
Marshall vs. Ohio

Meineke Car Care
Pitt vs. North Carolina

Emerald
Boston College vs. USC

Gaylord Hotels Music City
Kentucky vs. Clemson

AdvoCare V100 Independence
Texas A&M vs. Georgia

EagleBank*
Army or UCLA vs. Temple

Champs Sports
Miami vs. Wisconsin

Roady's Humanitarian
Bowling Green vs. Idaho

Pacific Life Holiday
Arizona vs. Nebraska

Bell Helicopter Armed Forces
Houston vs. Air Force

Brut Sun
Oklahoma vs. Stanford

Texas
Navy vs. Missouri

Insight
Minnesota vs. Iowa State

Chick-fil-A
Virginia Tech vs. Tennessee

Outback
Northwestern vs. Auburn

Capital One
Penn State vs. LSU

Konica Minolta Gator
West Virginia vs. Florida State

International
South Florida vs. Northern Illinois

Papajohns.com
South Carolina vs. UConn

AT&T Cotton
Oklahoma State vs. Ole Miss

AutoZone Liberty
Arkansas vs. East Carolina

Valero Alamo
Michigan State vs. Texas Tech

GMAC
Central Michigan vs. Troy

*Matchup in the EagleBank Bowl is subject to the result of next weekend's Army-Navy game. If Army wins, Black Knights go to the bowl. If Navy wins, UCLA goes




....Good lord there are way too many of these goofy things xoopsx

[TheValleyRaider]

New Mexico
Fresno State vs. Wyoming

MAACO Las Vegas
Oregon State vs. BYU

S.D. County Credit Union Poinsettia
Utah vs. Cal

Bell Helicopter Armed Forces
Houston vs. Air Force

Go Mountain West :) xhurrayx :) xhurrayx

[Big Al]

I think the MWC has some stretch games with the matchups against Oregon State and Houston but both AF and BYU are tough teams, so even worst case I don't see them losing in blowouts. It will be interesting to see which Cal team shows up against Utah, as it will either be Utah in a blowout or a barnburner. I'm finding it hard to care about Wyoming, although I think Fresno State is a good program.

[Pards Rule]

Congrats Temple Owls! First bowl game since 1979 Garden State Bowl vs. California which Temple won. It was the first and only Garden State Bowl too. MAACO reportedly paid $3 million to sponsor the Las Vegas Bowl. MAACO is owned by Meineke which sponsors the Meineke Car Care Bowl in Charlotte. I guess Ken Walker, CEO of Driven Brands (which owns Meineke & Maaco and Econolube, etc) wanted to go to a more resort oriented venue over the holidays.

[813Jag]

Few thoughts

Temple is Bowling!! After 30 years we've finally made it back. Temple accepted an invite to the Eagle Bank Bowl in Washington D.C. The cool thing is will only be 2.5 hours away from Philly. If Navy beats Army this weekend we'll play UCLA. If Army wins it'll be a rematch with the Black Knights. I'm obviously pulling for Navy. The biggest negative is the game will be played Tuesday Dec. 29 at 4:30 pm. It's going to be frickin cold.

Northwestern is playing in a New Years Day bowl.

WVU-FSU, well they did end up screwing WVU. No way does FSU derserve to be in this game over Miami. WVU vs the "U" could have been the best game on NYD. Instead we get to watch the Mountaineers beat up on 6-6 Seminole team.
with more time to practice this game will be better than most think, most likely it will be a shoot out because the Noles don't play any D. If it ends up like the last time these two played in the Gator Bowl it'll be fun.

[SU Jag]

No way fsu deserves a new years day bowl over miami. That's just flat out messed up!

[813Jag]

No way fsu deserves a new years day bowl over miami. That's just flat out messed up!
Where was this outcry when Clemson (who got beat by FSU last year went to the Gator Bowl when everyone expected FSU to go?) went last year, they had to approve this with the ACC so unless Miami voted no then there is no arguement.

[89Hen]

New Mexico
Fresno State vs. Wyoming

St. Petersburg
UCF vs. Rutgers

R+L Carriers New Orleans
Southern Miss vs. Middle Tennessee

Sheraton Hawaii
Nevada vs. SMU

Little Caesars
Marshall vs. Ohio

EagleBank*
Army or UCLA vs. Temple

Roady's Humanitarian
Bowling Green vs. Idaho

International
South Florida vs. Northern Illinois

GMAC
Central Michigan vs. Troy

xthumbsdownx

[SU Jag]

Didn't clemson have a better record than fsu last year? It cool though, fsu's program is about to fall apart anyway.

[813Jag]

Didn't clemson have a better record than fsu last year? It cool though, fsu's program is about to fall apart anyway.
Clemson was 7-5 last year so I don't get the outrage is one game over .500 really that different. (Not directed at you just making a statement in general)

[SonuvaHenx2]

Little Caesars
Marshall vs. Ohio

Two MAC teams in the same bowl?
Wow, good job with mixing it up. xnonono2x

[ysubigred]

Two MAC teams in the same bowl?
Wow, good job with mixing it up. xnonono2x

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Marshall is now Conference-USA xconfusedx

[TheValleyRaider]

International
South Florida vs. Northern Illinois
xthumbsdownx

What are you talking about?

I don't know anything that says "Great Season!" like spending early January in Toronto xcoolx

Maybe they get tickets to a Leafs game as part of their swag (nevermind, those are supposed to be good gifts ;))

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Marshall is now Conference-USA xconfusedx

That is correct and Ohio and Marshall actually have a pretty good rivarly. This game will better than most believe and actually has more meaning then most games because of the rivalry.

[jlcharles]

Does anyone really care about these trumped up exhibition games?

[GannonFan]

Does anyone really care about these trumped up exhibition games?

I have a tough time going through that list and seeing a game I would mark my calendar for and make sure I'm at home to watch it. If there's nothing else on and if I've cleared out my TiVo, sure, I may watch a little of some of those games. But on the whole, nope, no interest in pretty much any of them.

[Ivytalk]

New Mexico
Fresno State vs. Wyoming

St. Petersburg
UCF vs. Rutgers

R+L Carriers New Orleans
Southern Miss vs. Middle Tennessee

Sheraton Hawaii
Nevada vs. SMU

Little Caesars
Marshall vs. Ohio

EagleBank*
Army or UCLA vs. Temple

Roady's Humanitarian
Bowling Green vs. Idaho

International
South Florida vs. Northern Illinois

GMAC
Central Michigan vs. Troy

xthumbsdownx

Shame on you, Hen!xnonox

Santa says no TiVo for you!:p

[UMass922]

Does anyone really care about these trumped up exhibition games?

Only if I happen to stumble across one and it's a close game in the fourth quarter. I'm enough of a football fan that I'll usually watch a game like that to its conclusion, even if I don't care about the teams. But yeah, I'm not exactly planning my life around watching any of these games in their entirety.

[gbhmt]

Does anyone really care about these trumped up exhibition games?

Fans of the teams maybe? Fact is is when there's no chance to win a title, winning a bowl game is the best thing you can do for your program. And the wellness of your program financially kind of depends on making one.

[UMass922]

Fans of the teams maybe? Fact is is when there's no chance to win a title, winning a bowl game is the best thing you can do for your program. And the wellness of your program financially kind of depends on making one.

Not to mention the players. I don't care about most of these games personally, but I've never been offended by the fact that they exist. It's not like we're forced to watch them. If a bowl gives the athletes a chance to play one more game, I'm ok with that.

[SU Jag]

I watch as many as the bowl games as possible, I try to keep in mind that this is the final stretch of college football games for the next 8 and half months. I have a large collection of college football dvds to last me through the off season, between the dvds along with ncaa basketball and the nba will get me through til the season starts over.

[89Hen]

Shame on you, Hen!xnonox

Santa says no TiVo for you!:p
If you TiVo any of these games, shame on YOU. xsmhx :p

[Pards Rule]

If I still worked for MAACO, I would probably be going to the MAACO Bowl in Las Vegas..

[Go...gate]

Congrats Temple Owls! First bowl game since 1979 Garden State Bowl vs. California which Temple won. It was the first and only Garden State Bowl too. MAACO reportedly paid $3 million to sponsor the Las Vegas Bowl. MAACO is owned by Meineke which sponsors the Meineke Car Care Bowl in Charlotte. I guess Ken Walker, CEO of Driven Brands (which owns Meineke & Maaco and Econolube, etc) wanted to go to a more resort oriented venue over the holidays.

The Garden State Bowl began in 1978 and was played until 1981.

[Pards Rule]

No way! Really I had read in the papers (I believe PHL Inquirer) that the 79 game was it..Who were the other contestants??

[jlcharles]

Not to mention the players. I don't care about most of these games personally, but I've never been offended by the fact that they exist. It's not like we're forced to watch them. If a bowl gives the athletes a chance to play one more game, I'm ok with that.

It offends me to celebrate mediocrity.

[seantaylor]

Penn State is going to obliterate LSU. How FSU and Miami have the games they do is beyond me.

[appmaj]

Meineke Car Care
Pitt vs. North Carolina

Going to this one...again...maybe the Tarheels can blow it...again

First bowl game for the wife, should be fun.

[wkuhillhound]

Kentucky has played in the Music Bowl 3 out of the last 4 years. Kentucky is going for 4 straight bowl wins on 12/27!

[wkuhillhound]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Marshall is now Conference-USA xconfusedx

You would be correct. xthumbsupx

[813Jag]

Kentucky has played in the Music Bowl 3 out of the last 4 years. Kentucky is going for 4 straight bowl wins on 12/27!
I remember 2 of them I have purposely forgotten one. xlolx

[wkuhillhound]

I remember 2 of them I have purposely forgotten one. xlolx

Hopefully, Kentucky can beat Clemson twice. :)

[813Jag]

Hopefully, Kentucky can beat Clemson twice. :)
I wouldn't be upset about that. xlolx that FSU/Kentucky game was the first and last time i watched a music city bowl. xlolx

[wkuhillhound]

I wouldn't be upset about that. xlolx that FSU/Kentucky game was the first and last time i watched a music city bowl. xlolx

Still haunting you. xlolx

[bkrownd]

Fans of the teams maybe? Fact is is when there's no chance to win a title, winning a bowl game is the best thing you can do for your program. And the wellness of your program financially kind of depends on making one.

A bowl of any kind also generates extra practice time and recruiting opportunities, and looks better on the resume. You bet they care.

[GeauxColonels]

Penn State is going to obliterate LSU.

That's definitely news to me. xcoffeex

[813Jag]

The Gator Bowl sold out in two hours. Personally I think this will be an exciting game, especially if the FSU team that went to Provo shows up.

[Reign of Terrier]

Hopefully, Kentucky can beat Clemson twice. :)

They will. Clemson's offense is based entirely on Spiller and any decent defense can see that and stop it. (See South Carolina)

[ngineer]

Only if I happen to stumble across one and it's a close game in the fourth quarter. I'm enough of a football fan that I'll usually watch a game like that to its conclusion, even if I don't care about the teams. But yeah, I'm not exactly planning my life around watching any of these games in their entirety.

That's the way I feel about an NBA game...xsmhx

[JohnStOnge]

Fresno State vs. Wyoming - Yawn

St. Petersburg
UCF vs. Rutgers - Yawn

R+L Carriers New Orleans
Southern Miss vs. Middle Tennessee - Vomit

MAACO Las Vegas
Oregon State vs. BYU - Decent

S.D. County Credit Union Poinsettia
Utah vs. Cal - Pretty Good

Sheraton Hawaii
Nevada vs. SMU - Vomit

Little Caesars
Marshall vs. Ohio - Vomit

Meineke Car Care
Pitt vs. North Carolina - Pretty Good

Emerald
Boston College vs. USC - Decent

Gaylord Hotels Music City
Kentucky vs. Clemson - Decent

AdvoCare V100 Independence
Texas A&M vs. Georgia - Good

EagleBank*
Army or UCLA vs. Temple - Yawn

Champs Sports
Miami vs. Wisconsin - Very Good

Roady's Humanitarian
Bowling Green vs. Idaho - Vomit

Pacific Life Holiday
Arizona vs. Nebraska - Very Good

Bell Helicopter Armed Forces
Houston vs. Air Force - Good

Brut Sun
Oklahoma vs. Stanford - Very Good

Texas
Navy vs. Missouri - Very Good

Insight
Minnesota vs. Iowa State - Good

Chick-fil-A
Virginia Tech vs. Tennessee - Very Good

Outback
Northwestern vs. Auburn - Good

Capital One
Penn State vs. LSU - Best

Konica Minolta Gator
West Virginia vs. Florida State - Good

International
South Florida vs. Northern Illinois - You're kidding, right?

Papajohns.com
South Carolina vs. UConn - Good

AT&T Cotton
Oklahoma State vs. Ole Miss - Very Good

AutoZone Liberty
Arkansas vs. East Carolina - Good

Valero Alamo
Michigan State vs. Texas Tech - Good

GMAC
Central Michigan vs. Troy - Good in terms of being a matchup of conference champions. The problem is it's the two worst conferences and neither of these teams would have a prayer of sniffing the championship of any league other than the MAC or Sun Belt.

[Reign of Terrier]

International
South Florida vs. Northern Illinois - You're kidding, right?



My thoughts exactly (someone's gonna get killed!)xlolx

[furpal87]

The other Garden State Bowls were:

Ariz St. (QB'ed by Mark Malone) 35 Rutgers 18 (I was at that game).
Houston 35 Navy 0
Wisconsin won 28-21 but I forget over who. (maybe a West Coast team>?)

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

The other Garden State Bowls were:

Ariz St. (QB'ed by Mark Malone) 35 Rutgers 18 (I was at that game).
Houston 35 Navy 0
Wisconsin won 28-21 but I forget over who. (maybe a West Coast team>?)

Tennessee beat Wisconsin 28-21 in the Final GSB on 12/13/81.

[furpal87]

As for the Clemson/FSU situation:

Gator only has to take ACC runner up once in 4 yrs. They took 7-5 Clemson last year over 8-4 FSU, irritating FSU and most of the ACC. Thjis year FSU worked a deal with them so Bowden's last game could be in Fla vs WVU. This is the last year for the ACC-Gator deal, next year it's Big East-SEC.

[furpal87]

I think SC puts 50 on BC if they're nice, 70 if they're not.
GA-Tx A&M should have about 70-80 pts in it.
Fourth time in 10 yrs Clemson and Ky. play
BYU-Ore State might be fun.

Anyone want to set up a Bowl Mania pool?

[appmaj]

Meineke Car Care
Pitt vs. North Carolina - Pretty Good


Should be...

[89Hen]

Brut Sun
Oklahoma vs. Stanford - Very Good

Texas
Navy vs. Missouri - Very Good

Chick-fil-A
Virginia Tech vs. Tennessee - Very Good

AT&T Cotton
Oklahoma State vs. Ole Miss - Very Good
Not sure I'd call any of those "very good". OU, UT and Ole Miss are not very good teams. xpeacex

[Ivytalk]

Fresno State vs. Wyoming - Yawn

St. Petersburg
UCF vs. Rutgers - Yawn

R+L Carriers New Orleans
Southern Miss vs. Middle Tennessee - Vomit

MAACO Las Vegas
Oregon State vs. BYU - Decent

S.D. County Credit Union Poinsettia
Utah vs. Cal - Pretty Good

Sheraton Hawaii
Nevada vs. SMU - Vomit

Little Caesars
Marshall vs. Ohio - Vomit

Meineke Car Care
Pitt vs. North Carolina - Pretty Good

Emerald
Boston College vs. USC - Decent

Gaylord Hotels Music City
Kentucky vs. Clemson - Decent

AdvoCare V100 Independence
Texas A&M vs. Georgia - Good

EagleBank*
Army or UCLA vs. Temple - Yawn

Champs Sports
Miami vs. Wisconsin - Very Good

Roady's Humanitarian
Bowling Green vs. Idaho - Vomit

Pacific Life Holiday
Arizona vs. Nebraska - Very Good

Bell Helicopter Armed Forces
Houston vs. Air Force - Good

Brut Sun
Oklahoma vs. Stanford - Very Good

Texas
Navy vs. Missouri - Very Good

Insight
Minnesota vs. Iowa State - Good

Chick-fil-A
Virginia Tech vs. Tennessee - Very Good

Outback
Northwestern vs. Auburn - Good

Capital One
Penn State vs. LSU - Best

Konica Minolta Gator
West Virginia vs. Florida State - Good

International
South Florida vs. Northern Illinois - You're kidding, right?

Papajohns.com
South Carolina vs. UConn - Good

AT&T Cotton
Oklahoma State vs. Ole Miss - Very Good

AutoZone Liberty
Arkansas vs. East Carolina - Good

Valero Alamo
Michigan State vs. Texas Tech - Good

GMAC
Central Michigan vs. Troy - Good in terms of being a matchup of conference champions. The problem is it's the two worst conferences and neither of these teams would have a prayer of sniffing the championship of any league other than the MAC or Sun Belt.

See, John, you ARE capable of a humorous post!xlolxxlolxxbowxxbowx Reppies coming your way.

[JohnStOnge]

Not sure I'd call any of those "very good". OU, UT and Ole Miss are not very good teams. xpeacex

Oklahoma has a very good defense. Should be interesting to see how Stanford's back does. Tennessee gave both Alabama and Florida all they wanted and also has a good defense. A game between them and Virgnia Tech should be very good. It will be very physical. Ole Miss has been inconsistent but has Dexter McCluster. The matchup with Oklahoma State should be very interesting.

[furpal87]

Stanford's QB is out. I'll take the under on Tenn-VT probably be 13-10 at most. The interesting one to me is if ECU can handle Arkansas speed, because they could win that game if Ark. doesn't take them seriously.

[813Jag]

Stanford's QB is out. I'll take the under on Tenn-VT probably be 13-10 at most. The interesting one to me is if ECU can handle Arkansas speed, because they could win that game if Ark. doesn't take them seriously.
what happened to him? It'll be interesting to see how the Cardinal run the ball, OU is only giving up 88 yards a game on the ground.

[bluehenbillk]

Penn State is going to obliterate LSU. How FSU and Miami have the games they do is beyond me.

Being from PA & having seen PSU play all year I'm mystified how you came to that conclusion. PSU hasn't beat a really good team all year, much less do it by double digits. (Don't tell Mich St is very good). I think the PSU-LSU game will be one of, if not the best non-BCS game.