UNH - VILLANOVA official game thread

[Old Cat Fan]

With all the threads here and there, might as well have a seperate game thread, I will be watching on the tube, so won't be posting much. Good luck to UNH wishing a good safe game to both teams and lets hope no controversial call from the refs is a deciding factor. xthumbsupx

[UNHlund]

Go Cats!

From the pics I've seen it looks like there is a coating of snow on the field. Should add an interesting element to this game. The UNH defense needs to play one of their best games of the season today for UNH to head to W&M next week.

[Bogus Megapardus]

Go Cats!

From the pics I've seen it looks like there is a coating of snow on the field. Should add an interesting element to this game. The UNH defense needs to play one of their best games of the season today for UNH to head to W&M next week.

It is snowing heavily in Princeton. Large flakes. About 37*

I can confirm that this game is on live, free broadcast TV (ABC) in the Philadelphia area.

[blukeys]

It is snowing heavily in Princeton. Large flakes. About 37*

I can confirm that this game is on live, free broadcast TV (ABC) in the Philadelphia area.

Snowing in Dover De. So much for Global Warming.

[jcmanson]

anywhere to watch this online other than ESPN 360?

[Old Cat Fan]

Go Cats!

From the pics I've seen it looks like there is a coating of snow on the field. Should add an interesting element to this game. The UNH defense needs to play one of their best games of the season today for UNH to head to W&M next week.

Slick field will defintly hurt Kackert and Jellison outside sweeps, this could be a Sicko over the middle type game xnodx

[Old Cat Fan]

anywhere to watch this online other than ESPN 360?

Comcast sports New England

[Jackman]

Good luck, UNH. Don't let these "Southerners" beat the North.

[Old Cat Fan]

Good luck, UNH. Don't let these "Southerners" beat the North.

Thanks Jackman, turnovers could be the key today with weather xnodx

[Will]

Snowing in Dover De. So much for Global Warming.

It was 71 degrees in New Hampshire this past Thursday, December 3rd. So much for global warming.

[Will]

Damn, I hate snow games. No idea how UNH is going to cope today.

[Old Cat Fan]

Game just came on snowing pretty good, will be a slow field ,looks like the Maine game last year

[Old Cat Fan]

Damn, I hate snow games. No idea how UNH is going to cope today.

Footware could be crucial xeekx

[rcny46]

Damn, I hate snow games. No idea how UNH is going to cope today.

There's your answer.

[Old Cat Fan]

Slick field will defintly hurt Kackert and Jellison outside sweeps, this could be a Sicko over the middle type game xnodx

God I hate quoting myself xbawlingx

[Mattymc727]

I miss Lake Charles already.......

[93henfan]

Snowing in Dover De. So much for Global Warming.

Nothing but freezing rain three miles south in Camden. It was unseasonably balmy two days ago.

[Torgo]

Would the cameramen like to wipe the camera off eventually? I can barely see what's going on...

[93henfan]

Would the cameramen like to wipe the camera off eventually? I can barely see what's going on...

I was just about to post the same thing. I'd prefer the occasional hanky across the lens than looking at slush.

[Philliesfan980]

Watching on 360, but what is the WPVI2 channel on Comcast in the Philly area? I'm having trouble finding it.

Either way, it's a shame they game has to be played under these conditions. Looks really tough out there.

[GoDukes86]

Wow, that is a mess.

[R3TRO]

This is miserable..

[Torgo]

I don't know what's going on and it looks like most players don't either. What a mess.

[Philliesfan980]

Watching on 360, but what is the WPVI2 channel on Comcast in the Philly area? I'm having trouble finding it.

Either way, it's a shame they game has to be played under these conditions. Looks really tough out there.

For those of you looking, it's channel 245.

[theasushow]

its on channelsurfing.net
10-0 villanova, 6 minutes to go in the first

[WildcatFan]

Wipe the flipping camera lens alreadyxmadxxmadx

[theasushow]

wow complete blizzard.

[Philliesfan980]

TD Babaro!

[Philliesfan980]

For what it's worth. 360 looks like it's about 2 minutes or so behind the actual game.

[WildcatFan]

I figure we are going to play the entire game right on this spot of the field so having said that - we look good for the 2nd quarter.xthumbsupx

[gbhmt]

My god. And people whine about the weather in Montana!

[rcny46]

That could be it I'm afraid.

[Old Cat Fan]

Complete mess, UNH is not going to be able to run up the middle with the little backs they have and no footing. going to have to have some 5 yds dumps to the receivers .

[theasushow]

unh -42 total yards.

[Mattymc727]

i think its over already, we have -42 yards, and we are down 17......

[theasushow]

wow, looks like less than 4,000 people there.

[Bogus Megapardus]

Any other Pards out there, I'll say it again . . . if only . . . .

[NHwildEcat]

This has been just wonderful.

[RookieWill]

Shame these teams won't face each other this season where weather isn't a factor. That first game, the wind was brutal and tonight is horrid.

Also, it is that miserable wet snow too

[Philliesfan980]

Yeah, I wish they would show how big the Nova crowd is, but I would guess there is less than 4,000 people there. Makes it tough for them to justify hosting a home game next week, but it looks like they'll host regardless since they are seeded right?

[theasushow]

Shame these teams won't face each other this season where weather isn't a factor. That first game, the wind was brutal and tonight is horrid.

Also, it is that miserable wet snow too

nova is playing in it too.

[blukeys]

wow, looks like less than 4,000 people there.

Yeah, Double the usual Nova Home Crowd. xsmiley_wix

[GannonFan]

wow, looks like less than 4,000 people there.

Granted, they would have more if not for the weather...but not a lot more. :p

[theasushow]

Yeah, I wish they would show how big the Nova crowd is, but I would guess there is less than 4,000 people there. Makes it tough for them to justify hosting a home game next week, but it looks like they'll host regardless since they are seeded right?

yeah if they win they will host w&m. i hope more than 4,000 people show up for the nationally televised game.

[Philliesfan980]

Another sack.. wow, I know the weather is bad and all, but it's bad for both teams. Did UNH get off the bus today?

[rcny46]

i think its over already, we have -42 yards, and we are down 17......

We can always look forward to next year-I think they could have the best team they've ever had.

[GannonFan]

Shame these teams won't face each other this season where weather isn't a factor. That first game, the wind was brutal and tonight is horrid.

Also, it is that miserable wet snow too


nova is playing in it too.

Yeah, but strangely, UNH, a northern team, looks like they have no interest in playing in this weather. Maybe they get better weather in New Hampshire and no one ever knew? xlolx

[soccerguy315]

wake up UNH. let's at least see a good game.

[RookieWill]

Can't tell how many people are there as the Nova faithful sit in the South Stands, which is the side not shown by the cameras. Crowd actually sounds loud for a VU game

[Old Cat Fan]

Another sack.. wow, I know the weather is bad and all, but it's bad for both teams. Did UNH get off the bus today?

Calif. QB and RB thats my excuse xlolx

[GannonFan]

yeah if they win they will host w&m. i hope more than 4,000 people show up for the nationally televised game.

There'll be more, but don't count on a sellout. The place only holds 12k but they'll be lucky to get more than 8K.

[Old Cat Fan]

Yeah, but strangely, UNH, a northern team, looks like they have no interest in playing in this weather. Maybe they get better weather in New Hampshire and no one ever knew? xlolx

Snowing here now was 70 on Thursday xrotatehx

[RookieWill]

Nova's game plan is tailor-made for this weather. Run Run Run. Nova's defense is OUTSTANDING against the run, susceptible to the pass.

Just particularly tough conditions for UNH given the style of both teams

[theasushow]

this is becoming comical.

[Mattymc727]

Another sack.. wow, I know the weather is bad and all, but it's bad for both teams. Did UNH get off the bus today?

nope...... Toman and Kackert are from California, they probably got off the bus and said "wait, what?....."

[Old Cat Fan]

Holy Je--- foot prints on the Nova end of the field.

[GannonFan]

There'll be more, but don't count on a sellout. The place only holds 12k but they'll be lucky to get more than 8K.

Actually, could depend on how much the Tribe bring up - they have a decent group of fans, could help.

[Aho_Old_Guy]

I figure we are going to play the entire game right on this spot of the field so having said that - we look good for the 2nd quarter.xthumbsupx

Good for what?

What it is, we think, is football ... xlolx

[Philliesfan980]

TD Whitney. About to be 24-0 with 10:28 to go in the 2nd.

[93henfan]

Awesome. I counted nine people in the two whole sections in the background of that goal line replay. Hardy fans on the Main Line! xlolx

[Old Cat Fan]

Not making excuses, this game was won in the first series, but in a earlier pre game post I said footware could be crucial, and after watching this mess for awhile it looks like Nova is getting better traction than UNH. Wonder if they have a different field shoe on

[Bogus Megapardus]

Late hit call was kinda bad. Who could even see the sideline?

[RookieWill]

Awesome. I counted nine people in the two whole sections in the background of that goal line replay. Hardy fans on the Main Line! xlolx

I saw two people go to the bathroom, make it 11

[93henfan]

Actually, could depend on how much the Tribe bring up - they have a decent group of fans, could help.

No doubt. W&M was represented pretty well today in Carbondale. Lots of green and gold clad fans were shown on TV.

[Philliesfan980]

I saw two people go to the bathroom, make it 11

In all fairness, that is the visitor sideline, but I see your point.

[Jackman]

This is still more competitive than the Montana game.

[Tribe07]

What is UNH doing?

[Mattymc727]

we we showed up today, now I feel like UNH will never make it past the quarters

[Mattymc727]

*wish we

[RookieWill]

What is UNH doing?

Apparently resting up Nova for the W&M game!

[Tribe07]

This is still more competitive than the Montana game.

Really? Did that look like a college team playing a high school team too? And I KNOW UNH is legit, I saw it myself in Williamsburg a few weeks back. Ugh.

[Aho_Old_Guy]

Villanova should have gone for it on 4th and 2 ...

[rcny46]

This is just too painful to watch.Signing off.

[Philliesfan980]

I think we can start to pencil in Nova in the finals....

[TheTribeHasSpoken]

I think we can start to pencil in Nova in the finals....Oh really?

[WildcatFan]

I think we can start to pencil in Nova in the finals....
Please start chanting "It's all over".......that is sometimes good for a jinx:):)

[AppAlum2003]

Oh really?

Yeah, they're in the CAA! Duh! The only team that could be a CAA team is another CAA team!

[Philliesfan980]

Oh really?

Yeah

[Philliesfan980]

BTW, who is the color guy on this broadcast? I know Bob Picosi (sp) is doing the play by play.

[Tribe07]

Philliesfan I can't wait to beat that arrogance right off your face. It is tough to beat a team twice in the same season. Ask UNH right now. See ya next weekend.

[NovaHater]

Actually, could depend on how much the Tribe bring up - they have a decent group of fans, could help.

What do you know, you said Nova would exit early in the playoffs. Take a hike

[Torgo]

I think we can start to pencil in Nova in the finals....

William & Mary sure do suck, don't they?

[Philliesfan980]

Philliesfan I can't wait to beat that arrogance right off your face. It is tough to beat a team twice in the same season. Ask UNH right now. See ya next weekend.

Your strength (running) plays right into Nova's hands. Their front 7 are OUTSTANDING. If you had a great passing game, I might agree with you.

[Aho_Old_Guy]

Was that a 'rope a dope' ?

[Tribe07]

And your strength (running) plays right into our hands. Our front 7 are better (statistically) than yours.

[TheTribeHasSpoken]

Your strength (running) plays right into Nova's hands. Their front 7 are OUTSTANDING. If you had a great passing game, I might agree with you.We outgained you last time. You had a fluke TD and we couldn't convert in the red zone. It isn't happening again.

BTW, love all these Nova posters hanging out on AGS right now. Just like a true Nova football fan, who wants to go to the games anyway?

[Houndawg]

Yeah, they're in the CAA! Duh! The only team that could be a CAA team is another CAA team!


xlolx Amen, bro! That's putting the old brain to work!

[Philliesfan980]

We outgained you last time. You had a fluke TD and we couldn't convert in the red zone. It isn't happening again.

BTW, love all these Nova posters hanging out on AGS right now. Just like a true Nova football fan, who wants to go to the games anyway?

Going to a Nova game sucks. No atmosphere at all. And for the record, just because you watch and listen to the game on the tv/radio doesn't make you any less of a fan than the people who go to the games.

[Bogus Megapardus]

Wow. I just expected so much more from UNH. It's not like the team and the coaches aren't accustomed to the snow.

[Tribe07]

Going to a Nova game sucks. No atmosphere at all. And for the record, just because you watch and listen to the game on the tv/radio doesn't make you any less of a fan than the people who go to the games.

Are you kidding me?

[Philliesfan980]

And your strength (running) plays right into our hands. Our front 7 are better (statistically) than yours.

When you say statistically, what do you mean exactly? Total tackles? Sacks?

If you're going to go on tackles, normally Nova is up so big that teams just abandon the run, thus resulting in less tackles for the front 7.

[Philliesfan980]

Are you kidding me?

I'm in the minority, but I actually rather watch football on TV than in person. Unless you have the perfect seat, you can see all the moving pieces better on TV.

[Tribe07]

Team ranking against the run. W&M is #1 in the country at 50.3 yards per game on average.

[Philliesfan980]

Team ranking against the run. W&M is #1 in the country at 50.3 yards per game on average.

Do you have a link for that (not trying to be a smartass, just curious to see the rest of the list)

[NovaHater]

Team ranking against the run. W&M is #1 in the country at 50.3 yards per game on average.

I thought this was the UNH/Nova Game Thread ?

You want to start talking smack go somewhere else and start a seperate thread

8:00 left 2nd Qtr
24-0 Nova with ball

[NovaHater]

The friggin game isn't even half over and you're talking about next week

[Tribe07]

Sorry, just Tribe fans responding to Philliesfan's comment that you can pencil 'Nova into the title game.

[Philliesfan980]

I'll apologize as well. I shouldn't have mentioned that in this thread.

[Go...gate]

Villanova clearly has a fine team, but I did not expect it to be this lopsided.

[Tribe07]

New thread just started. But I'll say again- what is wrong with UNH? They literally did not get off the bus today.

[NovaHater]

UNH moving the ball but on 4 and 1 come up short on Nova 36
4:10 left 2nd

[NovaHater]

Now Nova 4 and inches
2:30 left and they're going for it

[Philliesfan980]

Nova Hater - just stop with the updates. You're seriously like 35 minutes behind the actual action. We're about ready to start the 3rd.

[soccerguy315]

Do you have a link for that (not trying to be a smartass, just curious to see the rest of the list)

not adding anything to the angry discussion, just providing you with the link to all the NCAA stats for the season... should update tomorrow for today's games. Interesting to look through when you have time xthumbsupx

http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2009&div=IAA&site=org

[NovaHater]

Nova Hater - just stop with the updates. You're seriously like 35 minutes behind the actual action. We're about ready to start the 3rd.

You're right, my fault, I recorded it from watching Montana game

[Tribe07]

Novahater what game are you watching? It's been halftime for 15 mins.

[UNHWildCats]

Novahater what game are you watching? It's been halftime for 15 mins.
xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxthumbsupx

[Reign of Terrier]

xlolx

[Philliesfan980]

Wow, not sure if I've ever seen this before. Nova is actually electing to play D in the second half.

[WildcatFan]

Wow, not sure if I've ever seen this before. Nova is actually electing to play D in the second half.

Why would Nova do that?

[TheTribeHasSpoken]

Nice start for UNH. Strong return and a 7 yd pass for Nova. No idea where the ball is.

[Philliesfan980]

It seems like on a day like today, the quick, shifty runners like Sczcur aren't going to have much success.

If I were Talley, I'd start to think about getting Whitney and the starters out of there if UNH doesn't move the ball at all here. In a normal 24-0 game, I'd argue that there's too much time left, but I don't think that's the case in a game like this.

[UNIFanSince1983]

Looks like fun to play in that crap!

[wideright82]

Why would Nova do that?


more than likely Coach T chose which side of the field he would rather have vs the ball since that is what killed us last time against UNH. then UNH elected to receive.

[BEAR]

Watching this one on espn360. I don't think too many SLC teams would have fared well in that game...the snow! xlolx

[UNHWildCats]

more than likely Coach T chose which side of the field he would rather have vs the ball since that is what killed us last time against UNH. then UNH elected to receive.
if you defer at the start of the game, then in the start of second half you chose kick or receive then the other team chooses the side to defend. Im not sure how Villanova could decide to kick off in the second half and also choose the goal to defend... UNH should have the choice of goal to defend right?

[wideright82]

if you defer at the start of the game, then in the start of second half you chose kick or receive then the other team chooses the side to defend. Im not sure how Villanova could decide to kick off in the second half and also choose the goal to defend... UNH should have the choice of goal to defend right?


I am pretty sure you defer your choice. Not choice of kick/receive, just choice in general. You are allowed to choose what you want, be it side of field or ball.


Don't hold me to that though

[UNIFanSince1983]

I believe they can either choose kick/receive or which goal to defend. So I think he is saying they chose the goal to defend, and then UNH chose to receive. But I could very well be wrong on that

[Sam Minuteman]

if you defer at the start of the game, then in the start of second half you chose kick or receive then the other team chooses the side to defend. Im not sure how Villanova could decide to kick off in the second half and also choose the goal to defend... UNH should have the choice of goal to defend right?

I believe when you win the toss you have the choice of picking first out of the four options or choosing first in the second half. So if you defer then the other team can pick kick, recieve, North, or South and the other team then picks one of the last two and the same for 2nd half. Sounds like they defered to 2nd half and chose which side to defend. This may not be entirely clear but anyway good luck to all CAA team.

[wideright82]

I believe they can either choose kick/receive or which goal to defend. So I think he is saying they chose the goal to defend, and then UNH chose to receive. But I could very well be wrong on that


That's exactly what I was saying but I'm not sure I am right either xlolxxlolx

[WildcatFan]

Either they wiped the lens or it stopped snowing.

[Philliesfan980]

Very fine snow coming down now.

[caribbeanhen]

a shame the game has to turn out to be a slop fest

[Philliesfan980]

32-0. TD Sczcur.

[NovaHater]

Come on UNH, at least get a first down. You can't blame the conditions on this lack of offense.

[NovaHater]

Ask and you receive, good for UNH, 1st down, now move the ball down the field

[NHwildEcat]

This may be the most pathetic performance I have witnessed by a team that is not the Cleveland Browns.

[93henfan]

Congrats on the first down, UNH fans. Baby steps.

[Torgo]

This is painful to watch.

[UNIFanSince1983]

Looks like the conditions are really affecting UNH. Toman can't pass in this at all!

[Philliesfan980]

Why is Whitney still in the game? You can always put the starters back in the game, but you can't take away any injures that might occur. Very stupid.

[WildcatFan]

Montana fans saw this type of UNH performance a few years back - congrats for not piling onxthumbsupx

[Jackman]

Maybe the Richmond-App State game will be close. The Spiders seem to like the drama. These other 3 games have been terrible other than the start of the SIU game.

[Philliesfan980]

Amazing run by Babbaro... 39-0 Nova.

[NovaHater]

This may be the most pathetic performance I have witnessed by a team that is not the Cleveland Browns.

Hate to see the Seniors on UNH go out this way. Everyone knows this team is better than this, unfortunate for whatever reason they just didn't show up to play today. Still, another good season for UNH, 6 straight years in the playoffs isn't too shabby.

[BDKJMU]

Granted, they would have more if not for the weather...but not a lot more. :p

Heck, I was planning on going (I live about 14 miles/25 min away) till yesterday and I saw the weather report.....

[Ivytalk]

Congrats to Nova. How many showed up to see it in this crappy weather?

[theasushow]

unh total yardage: -24

[kdinva]

I didn't expect this, either. I thought the snow would even things, a bit (given the geographic locations of the two schools)........guess not.

To any UNH folk: any plans to expand your stadium to 15,000-plus? the players deserve it.

[soccerguy315]

man, what happened to UNH today...

this is ridiculously surprising.

[Sam Minuteman]

unh total yardage: -24

Was just looking at the box score and saw the rushing yardage for UNH and was like WTF?? How do you have -64 yards rushing?!?! Thought maybe it was one big loss but looks like none of the UNH guys can manage positive yardage on the ground.

[soccerguy315]

Was just looking at the box score and saw the rushing yardage for UNH and was like WTF?? How do you have -64 yards rushing?!?! Thought maybe it was one big loss but looks like none of the UNH guys can manage positive yardage on the ground.

sacks are also counted in the rushing stats, which can help with the negative numbers

[NHwildEcat]

Hate to see the Seniors on UNH go out this way. Everyone knows this team is better than this, unfortunate for whatever reason they just didn't show up to play today. Still, another good season for UNH, 6 straight years in the playoffs isn't too shabby.

You're absolutely correct. It was a good year...another CAA North title...just unfortunate that they cannot seem to find a way out of the Quarterfinals yet again. I am sure they can come back strong next year...but with the shakeup in the CAA they won't be able to have another North title...and could be 3rd or 4th overall.

Maybe Decker will be the starter...he already looks better IMO.

[Pard4Life]

I admit I planned to go. But, an hour before game time and being 20 miles east of Nova shopping (for myself :) ) I decided not to go since it was raining and went to my family home in NJ (family stuff tmrw) thinking I can catch it on 360. BUT when I got home and logged on, the Internet carrier doesn't support 360!! It's cablevision no less, a big name. I've always wanted to see a snow game and thought I made a mistake halfway home. But given the score, maybe not. I'm DEFINETELY going next week.

[93henfan]

You can tell Nova is a basketball school. When the QB lines up in the shotgun, the crowd puts their hands up in the air and shouts, "ooooooooooooooooooooh" in unison. They were yelling "GO GO GO GO GO..." when it was 4th and inches. I couldn't really hear it, but it wouldn't surpise me if they said "wooosh" after the kicker makes an extra point. Anyone know if they were pointing and shouting "YOU YOU YOU" at the guilty UNH player when there were flags?

[crusader11]

Maybe Decker will be the starter...he already looks better IMO.

Yup. xnodx

[Franks Tanks]

I admit I planned to go. But, an hour before game time and being 20 miles east of Nova shopping (for myself :) ) I decided not to go since it was raining and went to my family home in NJ (family stuff tmrw) thinking I can catch it on 360. BUT when I got home and logged on, the Internet carrier doesn't support 360!! It's cablevision no less, a big name. I've always wanted to see a snow game and thought I made a mistake halfway home. But given the score, maybe not. I'm DEFINETELY going next week.

The game is on local tv (Comcast Sports Net)

[BDKJMU]

I admit I planned to go. But, an hour before game time and being 20 miles east of Nova shopping (for myself :) ) I decided not to go since it was raining and went to my family home in NJ (family stuff tmrw) thinking I can catch it on 360. BUT when I got home and logged on, the Internet carrier doesn't support 360!! It's cablevision no less, a big name. I've always wanted to see a snow game and thought I made a mistake halfway home. But given the score, maybe not. I'm DEFINETELY going next week.

-I can't get ESPN 360 with my Verizon wireless.
-Dumped Comcast and went to Verizon FIOS earlier this yr which doesn't carry the Philly ABC+ which supposedly is carrying the game on Comcast channel 245.

-CSN (Comcast Sports Net) New England picked up the game. But CSN Philly actually had the JMU vs GA State basketball game on 2-4, followed by some World Dart Championship at 4. DARTS! WTF! xmadx

[BDKJMU]

The game is on local tv (Comcast Sports Net)

NOT on CSN Philly.

[Franks Tanks]

-I can't get ESPN 360 with my Verizon wireless.
-Dumped Comcast and went to Verizon FIOS earlier this yr which doesn't carry the Philly ABC+ which supposedly is carrying the game on Comcast channel 245.

-CSN (Comcast Sports Net) New England picked up the game. But CSN Philly actually had the JMU vs GA State basketball game on 2-4, followed by some World Dart Championship at 4. DARTS! WTF! xmadx

I have DirecTV and I am getting the game. Any DirecTV people with the FB pachage should be able to see the game on channel 630.

[NovaHater]

You can tell Nova is a basketball school. When the QB lines up in the shotgun, the crowd puts their hands up in the air and shouts, "ooooooooooooooooooooh" in unison. They were yelling "GO GO GO GO GO..." when it was 4th and inches. I couldn't really hear it, but it wouldn't surpise me if they said "wooosh" after the kicker makes an extra point. Anyone know if they were pointing and shouting "YOU YOU YOU" at the guilty UNH player when there were flags?

At least it's not a ONE sport school like some xnonox

Final 4 in BB last year, Final 4 in FB

[UNIFanSince1983]

Channelsurfing picked up the 360 stream...

It will also have Richmond vs App State for those of you without a DTV package or a 360 provider

[Pard4Life]

The game is on local tv (Comcast Sports Net)

We have optimum (cablevision) here in northern NJ. Even if we had Comcast we probably wouldn't get it.

[BDKJMU]

The game is on local tv (Comcast Sports Net)


I have DirecTV and I am getting the game. Any DirecTV people with the FB pachage should be able to see the game on channel 630.

Then you don't have a local CSN (Philly) feed. Your feed must be CSN New England. CSN Philly and Mid Atlantic don't have the game. Neither does TCN (The Comcast Network) which Verizon FIOS doesn't carry anyway.

[LacesOut]

Yeah baby!!!!!!!!

Way to go Nova!!!!!!!

Can't believe all the snow on the field!

[Pard4Life]

-I can't get ESPN 360 with my Verizon wireless.
-Dumped Comcast and went to Verizon FIOS earlier this yr which doesn't carry the Philly ABC+ which supposedly is carrying the game on Comcast channel 245.

-CSN (Comcast Sports Net) New England picked up the game. But CSN Philly actually had the JMU vs GA State basketball game on 2-4, followed by some World Dart Championship at 4. DARTS! WTF! xmadx

Well, unhook your cable. If you have a digital TV, hook up the rabbit ears and go to channel 6.2! I watched JMU-Nova this way last year in the Philly brubs.

[Pard4Life]

Then you don't have a local CSN (Philly) feed. Your feed must be CSN New England. CSN Philly and Mid Atlantic don't have the game. Neither does TCN (The Comcast Network) which Verizon FIOS doesn't carry anyway.

Comcast is really odd. I have three stations in PA: Comcast Network, Comcast Sports Net, and Comcast Philly. Ugh... Can't Nova, Penn, St Joes, Temple, Drexel, LaSalle, Delaware just form their own TV network?

[WildcatFan]

Congrats Nova - good luck next week.

[Tribe07]

Gotta tip your cap to 'Nova for taking advantage, but UNH really delivered them this win on a silver platter.

[UNHWildCats]

Well, this sucked... Now please Villanova, go on and kick the ^$%&#E^$ crap outta William & Mary and its classless fans.

[Tribe07]

Haha you're right you can tell 'Nova is a basketball school. The students were chanting "final four" and "5...4...3...2...1" as if it were a shot clock. Let's take that place over next weekend.

[WildcatFan]

Well, this sucked... Now please Villanova, go on and kick the ^$%&#E^$ crap outta William & Mary and its classless fans.

Yupxthumbsupxxthumbsupxxthumbsupx

[Tribe07]

Wait how are we classless?

[UNHWildCats]

Wait how are we classless?
A tribe fan posting a Villanova vs W&M thread near the start of the 2nd quarter... ya classless like I said.

[Tribe07]

Ok, so one of us jumped the gun a little? Hardly calls for a blanket statement like that. May the best team win next weekend so we can bring it home for the CAA. Unless UR takes care of the upper side of the bracket...

[tribe_pride]

That was me UNH - I apologize. It was stupid and regretted it when I posted it - but couldn't delete it. Sorry. You guys had a great season. Was definitely rooting for you to win.

[WildcatFan]

That was me UNH - I apologize. It was stupid and regretted it when I posted it - but couldn't delete it. Sorry. You guys had a great season. Was definitely rooting for you to win.

Thanks for apologizing. Good luck next week.

[TheTribeHasSpoken]

A tribe fan posting a Villanova vs W&M thread near the start of the 2nd quarter... ya classless like I said.Honestly though, the game was pretty far out of reach at that point(24-0) for a UNH team that absolutely could not move the ball. I feel like a Nova fan saying you can already pencil them into the finals is much worse than what tribepride did, but I guess it's only classless if it's done to your team?

[Tribe07]

Honestly though, the game was pretty far out of reach at that point(24-0) for a UNH team that absolutely could not move the ball. I feel like a Nova fan saying you can already pencil them into the finals is much worse than what tribepride did, but I guess it's only classless if it's done to your team?

Let them underestimate us like Weber State and SIU did.

[rcny46]

Yup. xnodx

I absolutely don't see Sean McDonnell sitting a player who has been his QB for the previous 2 seasons,and who is a senior,in favor of Decker.

[crusader11]

I absolutely don't see Sean McDonnell sitting a player who has been his QB for the previous 2 seasons,and who is a senior,in favor of Decker.

Unfortunately, I think you are right. The better quarterback will be on the bench though.

[rcny46]

man, what happened to UNH today...

this is ridiculously surprising.

I think they ran into a much better team-simple as that.

[UNHFan]

Toman is simply HORRIBLE!!!!!!I am a better QB then him and I play hockey!! Vill is a better team but we had a horrible horrible QB!!! I dont care about Weather!!! He was Horrible!!!

[UNHFan]

And we are in big trouble Playing Pitt first game next season!!! I was screaming for Decker 5 weeks ago and truly wish he had 5 games under his belt!

[crusader11]

And we are in big trouble Playing Pitt first game next season!!! I was screaming for Decker 5 weeks ago and truly wish he had 5 games under his belt!

Been saying this since the SIU game last year. Glad some are finally catching on (too bad it took an entire season).

[R3TRO]

Toman definitely didn't have a great game but Decker was also in when the game was out of reach and Nova really let up on the pressure. However, it definitely was unfortunate that the weather exposed our biggest weaknesses (O-Line, Running game) and really played in favor of Nova's strengths... but to be a great team, you have to win in any situation and Nova really gave us a beatin' today. Good luck the rest of the way.

[UNHFan]

Toman definitely didn't have a great game but Decker was also in when the game was out of reach and Nova really let up on the pressure. However, it definitely was unfortunate that the weather exposed our biggest weaknesses (O-Line, Running game) and really played in favor of Nova's strengths... but to be a great team, you have to win in any situation and Nova really gave us a beatin' today. Good luck the rest of the way.

All Toman aside... great post! Your right on!! So sorry if I say all this Toman stuff probably still would have lost. So Ill calm down!! We lost to a better team... Just so frustrating watching him.

[BloomHusky'01]

I'm finally warming up and drying off after making my way from the game. I bailed midway through the third quarter when it was obvious UNH was not about to come back. Villanova's defense had some struggles against the quick-release spread offense of Holy Cross, but against a more balanced offense, Nova's D was tremendous. They were in the backfield on every play and gave up nothing on the ground. It was a really a great performance.

I haven't read all the posts in this thread, but I see a lot of comments about the UNH quarterback. I've never seen him play before, so I don't how he performs in better conditions. My biggest observation was that he had no idea where pressure was coming from and when it was coming. He couldn't see, couldn't feel it and couldn't anticipate it. The O-line did not do a great job, but he needs to be a lot better at feeling the pressure and moving away from it. Really, it wouldn't have made enough of a difference today because Villanova was just better.

[Old Cat Fan]

And we are in big trouble Playing Pitt first game next season!!! I was screaming for Decker 5 weeks ago and truly wish he had 5 games under his belt!

Tom Brady can be our QB for the Pitt game and we are still going to be in trouble xnodx

[UNHFan]

Tom Brady can be our QB for the Pitt game and we are still going to be in trouble xnodx

Im with ya!! xlolx

[Bogus Megapardus]

Congratulations to the Villanova Wildcats. That's a heckuva good game next week as well. You might be in the "south" division, but you still represent northeast football as far as I'm concerned, so I'm a Villanova fan from here on through. Good luck!

[Old Cat Fan]

I'm finally warming up and drying off after making my way from the game. I bailed midway through the third quarter when it was obvious UNH was not about to come back. Villanova's defense had some struggles against the quick-release spread offense of Holy Cross, but against a more balanced offense, Nova's D was tremendous. They were in the backfield on every play and gave up nothing on the ground. It was a really a great performance.

I haven't read all the posts in this thread, but I see a lot of comments about the UNH quarterback. I've never seen him play before, so I don't how he performs in better conditions. My biggest observation was that he had no idea where pressure was coming from and when it was coming. He couldn't see, couldn't feel it and couldn't anticipate it. The O-line did not do a great job, but he needs to be a lot better at feeling the pressure and moving away from it. Really, it wouldn't have made enough of a difference today because Villanova was just better.

Good observation on Toman, that's been his biggest problem all year is not being quick enough under pressue to make proper decisions. We got spoiled watching Santos having that ability he did the things a top QB does under pressure, pass, throw the ball away, take off and run, the moment he knew there was nothing there. Toman will be back as the starter next year with Decker to follow his senior year

[GannonFan]

What do you know, you said Nova would exit early in the playoffs. Take a hike

I actually had you guys beating Holy Cross - didn't you? xlolx

[Old Cat Fan]

One last thing about todays game , for me it is easier to accept a good old fashion ass kicking than to go down in a nail biter like last year at UNI, I still have that game on my DVR and said to myself that I would painfully watch it again,well a one year later I still havn't watched it As for todays game I just deleted it.. Good luck to Nova, WM will be pulling for you

[UNHFan]

Good observation on Toman, that's been his biggest problem all year is not being quick enough under pressue to make proper decisions. We got spoiled watching Santos having that ability he did the things a top QB does under pressure, pass, throw the ball away, take off and run, the moment he knew there was nothing there. Toman will be back as the starter next year with Decker to follow his senior year

Great response.... OK but did you Tivo or DVR this game? I hope you did. Please watch again. He was horrible!! Period!! Even with out pressure he missed everything!!!! I had a house full of people for this game and everyone saw it the same and we are now getting drunk crying!!! xbeerchugxxbeerchugx first 8 passes where HORRIBLE!!!!!!! No pressure on some and he couldnt hit the barn!!!! ! We sucked across the board. I get it!!! Just cant take another TOMAN GAME!!!!! PLEASE!!!! Decker? Ill take AL ROKER!!!! (NBC Today showxsmiley_wix Weather man)

[crusader11]

I hope Coach Mac makes it an open competition for the QB job in the spring. Unfortunately, Decker never got a fair shake this year.

[Hoyadestroya85]

Just got home from Villanova.. I have a few notes:
That was the rowdiest student section I've ever been a part of at Villanova (regardless of the sport.)
The weather was worse than it looked on tv.
The way they've been running the ball lately, I'm convinced Villanova can run on any defense, even William & Mary.
Go back to crapsville UD fans..
I've never been to another game where I knew it was over 15 seconds into the game.
Nick Yako was absolutely fantastic.. one of the best performances i've ever seen by a kicker.

[UNHWildCats]

I hope Coach Mac makes it an open competition for the QB job in the spring. Unfortunately, Decker never got a fair shake this year.
Didn't he ditch the program and then come cowering back?

[soccerguy315]

I think they ran into a much better team-simple as that.

no way, you guys beat Villanova earlier and played W&M tough.

[UNH Fanboi]

I had the unfortunate pleasure of watching this debacle in person. Some thoughts:

- First, congratulations to Nova, you guys gave us an old-fashioned ass kicking today. Good luck in the next round, but W&M run defense is probably the best in FCS, so don't get too cocky.

- I can't over-emphasize how absolutely atrocious the weather was. The snow was coming down very hard all game and it made passing nearly impossible because of the wetness and poor footing and visibilty.

- I don't know if UNH elected to receive, but if they did, that was a horrible decision. Given how crappy the conditions were, starting with the ball at your own 20 was a huge disadvantage. I think this game could have been remotely competive in the first half if Nova had started with the ball and was faced with the psychological burden of being pinned deep in crappy conditions. The field position the entire first half was devastating for UNH.

- This game was decided at the line of scrimmage. I don't care who the UNH RB and QB were, there were simply no holes for UNH to run through, and Toman had people in his face on every throw. Toman certainly has his faults as a QB, but piling on him only because of this game is unfair. He really had no chance to do anything because of the ****ty field position, blizzard conditions, lack of a running game, and constant pressure. Payton Manning would have looked like **** in Toman's shoes today.

- Nova is a better team than UNH, but they are not 39 points better. I feel terrible that UNH wasn't able to show what they are capable of. Today was really a "perfect storm" completely in Nova's favor.

- To all the haters talking **** about UNH from their keyboard and saying that they didn't come out to play: Go **** yourselves. UNH got beaten by a better team in conditions that negated their weapons and strengthened Nova's. That's football. But I have no doubt that everyone on UNH played their hearts out. Talk your **** to the seniors who busted their asses for the last 4-5 years and just played their last game of football.


To all the UNH fans on here: It was a fun season even though it was stressful at times and we had to end with such an embarassing loss. I really enjoyed everyone's insight, analysis and cheering. Let's come back in even even bigger numbers next year and finally watch this team play in Chatty.

Go Wildcats (UNH)!

[UNHFan]

people Welcome to NH!!! The above post is typical!!! We are now re re watching Toman on DVR quite simply the worst QB I can remember seeing. I have never seen anything like it! Period!! people read our news on google Not a single reporter ever ever ever ever criticizes this team. Its like nothing you have ever seen! Every loss is... oh weather.... oh... injury.... oh... oh.... its insane there is Zero pressure on these kids to produce!! Period Toman can throw 5 INT's and I tell you every News Paper will not even mention it!!! A D3 team in GA would get ripped and honest reporting down south!! Sickening!!!! Lets give all the the final 4 teams a win!!!!! And all hug each other no need to play the games!! lol Insane!!! So UNH fans are going trash me. but!!!I ask all of you people to Google News UNH Football and try and see if you can read a single article in the news that tells it like it is!! I challenge anyone!!

[jlcharles]

I finally thawed out as well. The weather was just atrocious. My jacket, sweatshirt, and pants were soaked through. But hell if I didnt stay until the final seconds ticked off the clock. Probably the greatest defensive game I've seen us play ever.

I'm looking forward to beating W&M again. Early forecast for Friday is partly cloudy and rain for Saturday. I'm hoping we get the Friday night game.

[VUCats02]

I'm hoping we get the Friday night game too because finals are Saturday and I think we'd get a way better attendance from students if it's Friday night.

[LacesOut]

I swear, really, that I'm not talking smack on UNH, but....any chatter about them being consistent playoff chokers?? In that they can't get past the quarter final games??

[BDKJMU]

people Welcome to NH!!! The above post is typical!!! We are now re re watching Toman on DVR quite simply the worst QB I can remember seeing. I have never seen anything like it! Period!! people read our news on google Not a single reporter ever ever ever ever criticizes this team. Its like nothing you have ever seen! Every loss is... oh weather.... oh... injury.... oh... oh.... its insane there is Zero pressure on these kids to produce!! Period Toman can throw 5 INT's and I tell you every News Paper will not even mention it!!! A D3 team in GA would get ripped and honest reporting down south!! Sickening!!!! Lets give all the the final 4 teams a win!!!!! And all hug each other no need to play the games!! lol Insane!!! So UNH fans are going trash me. but!!!I ask all of you people to Google News UNH Football and try and see if you can read a single article in the news that tells it like it is!! I challenge anyone!!

I hear what you're saying!!!! Period!!!! You know!!!! It sucks!!!! Period!!!!

[jlcharles]

I'm hoping we get the Friday night game too because finals are Saturday and I think we'd get a way better attendance from students if it's Friday night.

Wait, what? Finals on Saturday? WTF?

[LacesOut]

I hear what you're saying!!!! Period!!!! You know!!!! It sucks!!!! Period!!!!

LOL

The guy seems a bit emotional.

[Franks Tanks]

Then you don't have a local CSN (Philly) feed. Your feed must be CSN New England. CSN Philly and Mid Atlantic don't have the game. Neither does TCN (The Comcast Network) which Verizon FIOS doesn't carry anyway.

Perhaps that is the case. The logo on the screen simply said Comcast Sports Net--had no idea where the feed was from however.

[VUCats02]

yeah jlcharles...i'm a student at VU and have 2 finals Saturday :-X The good news is I will be able to make it to the game Saturday if it is Saturday, but I know some people who won't be able to. Let's just hope for a Friday game though.

[UNH Fanboi]

people Welcome to NH!!! The above post is typical!!! We are now re re watching Toman on DVR quite simply the worst QB I can remember seeing. I have never seen anything like it! Period!! people read our news on google Not a single reporter ever ever ever ever criticizes this team. Its like nothing you have ever seen! Every loss is... oh weather.... oh... injury.... oh... oh.... its insane there is Zero pressure on these kids to produce!! Period Toman can throw 5 INT's and I tell you every News Paper will not even mention it!!! A D3 team in GA would get ripped and honest reporting down south!! Sickening!!!! Lets give all the the final 4 teams a win!!!!! And all hug each other no need to play the games!! lol Insane!!! So UNH fans are going trash me. but!!!I ask all of you people to Google News UNH Football and try and see if you can read a single article in the news that tells it like it is!! I challenge anyone!!

Nova rushed for 343 yards and UNH rushed for -66 (-40 not including Toman). That's the story of this game, not Toman. I don't think you really appreciate how bad the conditions today were for passing. I'm not afraid of criticizing Toman. He was mediocre this year, but it wouldn't have mattered who the hell was playing QB today. You can't run for negative yardage in a snowstorm and have any chance of winning the game. UNH had a weak inside running game all year, and that was their Achilles heel tonight.

I don't really care what the media says. The coverage of FCS in general is incredibly sparse and rarely goes deeper than a basic recaps of games. Myself and the rest of the UNH fans on AGS have been very objective about the team all year and my thoughts on this game aren't any different. You can't deny that the weather had a huge effect on the game. It's not an excuse, just an observation; Nova played in the same conditions.

By the way, learn how to type like a normal human being for posting on here again.

[ngineer]

Sorry I missed this game. I was tied up all day with a million things and saw the scores as I caught the end of the Nebraska-Texas game and couldn't believe it. Man, when the wheels fall off, they really fall off. Alway tough to play a team twice in same season. Now, again with W&M. Should be agood one.

[UNHFootballAlum]

First, congrats to Villanova. Great gameplan today and well executed. UNH looked like a deer in headlights and as if the snow was blinding them. I don't care how bad the conditions were, UNh did not get a first down until sometime in the 3rd quarter. That is unacceptable! As far as Toman is concerned. i know that he had a lot of heat in his face today, but what I ahve noticed about him is that if you get to him early, it affects all other parts of his game. He becomes inaccurate in his passing and holds the ball too long. When Decker came into the game in the 3rd Quarter, the Nova 1st defense was still on the field. Decker got the ball out of his hands quickly and had some success moving the ball. This loss is a total team loss. Out coached, out played, out hit. I hope that next spring that there is a serious QB competition between Toman and Decker

[GreatAppSt]

According to the crowing here after last week, I thought UNH was invincable?

[UNHFootballAlum]

According to the crowing here after last week, I thought UNH was invincable?

Who was doing the crowing about UNH. They were an 11 pt underdog going into this game. UNH is still a very good team, but invinceable? Hardly

[soccerguy315]

According to the crowing here after last week, I thought UNH was invincable?

I didn't see any UNH crowing... maybe I missed it though?

[UNH Fanboi]

According to the crowing here after last week, I thought UNH was invincable?

No one said anything like that. Pretty much every UNH fan admitted that they were an underdog to Nova. I guess you can't read or spell.

[UNH Fanboi]

I didn't see any UNH crowing... maybe I missed it though?

He's just a dumbass who thinks that an ASU victory entitles him to make irrelevant and sarcastic posts in any thread. If ASU had lost today he'd be back in his trailer doing crystal meth.

[WrenFGun]

I too, was at the game. Just to detail my treak...I left at 644 AM, and arrived in Villanova at 215 PM, after a few reststops and a lunch on the Jersey Border. The weather was atrocious. I mean, impossible to throw and catch the ball. I stood the entire game after foolishly sitting briefly. I thought there was a good contingent of UNH fans there. I left the game at 645 and arrived home at 147 AM.

First, on Villanova. They just looked like they were twice as fast as UNH, both on offense and defense. I don't think UNH was at all prepared for the game, because I kept saying to myself, "Man, it looks like they've never played in the snow in their life." After the first play of the game I said, "We're F'd." Angelo Babbaro made a big difference in this game, as he apparently did not play last game. The defensive line was dominant, too, and every player on that team is capable of making the big play. Very impressive. I also really like Villanova. I met some friendly people and I really like the team and the college. I'll be rooting for you the rest of the way. You were a much bigger, more athletic team today.

Two things on Toman: I don't know how ANYONE could blame this game on Toman today. The Offensive Line was HORRIBLE. Absolutely HORRIBLE. There was one play where Toman tried to run a quick slant and was sacked after like, 1 second. There was no doubt he was going to get sacked for a safety later in the game, and I'm shocked 'Nova didn't block a punt. Just a HORRIBLE effort. Tom Neill spent most of the game yelling at the other OL on the sideline.

The other thing on Toman is that it's clear to me that the offense UNH is running is not catered to Toman's skillset, so he's basically set up to fail more often than not. I believe, as the offense is currently set up (5-10 yard routes relying on precision accuracy), Decker is a better fit. I am not saying Decker's a better QB, however. I do not know how he would deal with pressure but Toman just had no time today. If we are committed to Toman as our QB next year, we need to build an offense that actually complements his skills (I don't know if that can exist on the FCS level). Toman needs TIME to use his excellent arm, and he needs receivers that can get separation down the field. I'm not sure TIME or that type of receiver will ever be available at UNH, but it seems clear that the offense they're currently running is just not a fit for him. It's really not his fault..

That brings me to the other big problem with UNH, and IMO, the reason they continue to falter at this level. They do not consistently gain positive yardage. The two things you need to do to win in FCS is to consistently gain positive yardage and play defense. For awhile, UNH had no problem with the yardage but HUGE problems with defense. Come playoff time, however, facing better pass defenses, UNH was shutdown enough that they were in too many negative yardage situations.

IMO, Coach McDonell has to be innovative here about how to approach the upcoming seasons to avoid turning into UNH Hockey (make the playoffs, lose early). I'd like to see him exploit areas that other teams in the CAA are not looking into. We need to find a way to run the ball, and IMO, that means having a decisive plan on offensive lineman, receivers, RB's and QB's. IMO, we shouldn't have multiple types of each position. We cannot afford to go through these types of "rebuilding" years with the OL if we want to win in the playoffs, and IMO, the problem here is that we're trying to turn OL into something that they only might be, instead of trying to get something that we can get and work with it. Again, I've never played football and have no idea what the heck people are doing sometimes, but when I see 'Nova, W&M, UD, UNI, etc. they have huge offensive lines that can just win games for you. UNH is trying to do that as well but just cannot get the same level of recruit. I think we had a fortunate run with Cumba, Elwell, Droesch, McClure and it really helped out our chances, but it's hard to continually produce that. I'd like to see a move towards smaller, speedier OL, because I think we may be able to get that type of player easier, especially in the CAA. I say this because I really don't think the coaching staff did a great job of catering the team to it's strengths, and I often wonder why we're trying to recruit similar players as 'Nova, W&M, etc when we can develop our own angle and go after niche players for our system. It's a great way to determine inefficiencies in the recruiting world and capitalize.

I just think, unfortunately, in the playoffs, that we keep running into teams that can do what we do with better athletes and better execution. We need to try something different to get over the hump.

Again, congrats to 'Nova. Whitney is a beast.

[GreatAppSt]

Who was doing the crowing about UNH. They were an 11 pt underdog going into this game. UNH is still a very good team, but invinceable? HardlyAfter beating Mcneesexeyebrowx not this weeks build up.

[GreatAppSt]

No one said anything like that. Pretty much every UNH fan admitted that they were an underdog to Nova. I guess you can't read or spell.

Again. After beating Mcneesexeyebrowx not this weeks build up.

[smcwildcat]

we cant recruit bc our stadium sucks...there are high school fields in the south better than ours

[09griz]

He's just a dumbass who thinks that an ASU victory entitles him to make irrelevant and sarcastic posts in any thread. If ASU had lost today he'd be back in his trailer doing crystal meth.

Take the loss like a real fan ought to and keep the offensive bull**** off the board.

[UD77]

Just got home from Villanova.. I have a few notes:
That was the rowdiest student section I've ever been a part of at Villanova (regardless of the sport.)
The weather was worse than it looked on tv.
The way they've been running the ball lately, I'm convinced Villanova can run on any defense, even William & Mary.
Go back to crapsville UD fans..
I've never been to another game where I knew it was over 15 seconds into the game.
Nick Yako was absolutely fantastic.. one of the best performances i've ever seen by a kicker.

I was at the game also, made it to half time. Some of the worse weather I have sat through at a game. Hard to see anything that was going on unless it was right in front of you. The fans that were at the game (no matter how many - student section did look full) were to be congratulated. Not many teams would fill the stands with this kind of weather.

[caribbeanhen]

I was at the game also, made it to half time. Some of the worse weather I have sat through at a game. Hard to see anything that was going on unless it was right in front of you. The fans that were at the game (no matter how many - student section did look full) were to be congratulated. Not many teams would fill the stands with this kind of weather.

truth be told, the weather had little to do with the sparse crowd, fan apathy is more likely to be the causexlolx

[WrenFGun]

we cant recruit bc our stadium sucks...there are high school fields in the south better than ours

...Then why are we doing the same thing everyone else is? There are a players/recruit types that are undervalued, always. UNH tends to always land some of those types (Terrance Klein comes to mind..).

[footballer]

why

[UNHFan99]

I think UNH recruits like NFL teams draft. take the best available player and use them to the best of our ability.

[Philliesfan980]

we cant recruit bc our stadium sucks...there are high school fields in the south better than ours

Nova's facilities are some of the worst I've ever seen.

[UNHFan99]

Nova's facilities are bad. I do think they are in a hotbed for recruiting though. It is tough to get a kid from PA,MD,Virginia,NJ, to go to UNH if they have any other options. Most of UNH squad have traditionally been guys with no other or limited offers from other top FCS programs. With better facilities we would at least have another reason to have kids come up other that our graduation rate.

[Wildcat80]

Congrats to nova. No question they played better. As for UNH & every other team save one--we all lose the last game in playoffs. Still a terrific year-again for Coach mac & staff. With Hofstra & NE out UNH should be able to recruit a little easier. There are tons of terrific players out there just gotta find them. This year's USC team's OL did not have a man over 300. We gotta get stronger though. And have a power run game when needed. 2010 is the year for UNH to break thru to the next round. Go Cats!!xnodx

[WrenFGun]

Nova's facilities are bad. I do think they are in a hotbed for recruiting though. It is tough to get a kid from PA,MD,Virginia,NJ, to go to UNH if they have any other options. Most of UNH squad have traditionally been guys with no other or limited offers from other top FCS programs. With better facilities we would at least have another reason to have kids come up other that our graduation rate.

I don't really believe getting better facilities should be the crutch UNH should rely on to get better recruits. We are at a disadvantage in recruiting because we are in the Northeast and we do not have the level of elite facilities that we would need to compete with most other schools in the CAA. We refuse to become an institution that takes in highly-regarded transfers who are dissatisfied with their current institution.

IMO, and I've got no insider knowledge here, we need to be smarter about strategy and execution in recruiting. For all I know, Coach MAC may have a very effective, working strategy about recruiting and a recruiting change might be disastrous. With that said, I think it's hard to ignore its impact on the plateauing of our team once we make the playoffs. You cannot ignore an 0-5 record in the Quarterfinals in the last 5 years. What did Villanova, UNI, UMass and Montana have that we didn't? Sure seems to me like they had players that were just better at what we were trying to do.

I'd just like to see some outside the box thinking. The will to win sometimes just isn't good enough. I will never question the heart of a Coach McDonell coached team but I'd like to see some real thought go into the strategy of recruiting and the implication of every single decision.

[WrenFGun]

I don't really believe getting better facilities should be the crutch UNH should rely on to get better recruits. We are at a disadvantage in recruiting because we are in the Northeast and we do not have the level of elite facilities that we would need to compete with most other schools in the CAA. We refuse to become an institution that takes in highly-regarded transfers who are dissatisfied with their current institution.

IMO, and I've got no insider knowledge here, we need to be smarter about strategy and execution in recruiting. For all I know, Coach MAC may have a very effective, working strategy about recruiting and a recruiting change might be disastrous. With that said, I think it's hard to ignore its impact on the plateauing of our team once we make the playoffs. You cannot ignore an 0-5 record in the Quarterfinals in the last 5 years. What did Villanova, UNI, UMass and Montana have that we didn't? Sure seems to me like they had players that were just better at what we were trying to do.

I'd just like to see some outside the box thinking. The will to win sometimes just isn't good enough. I will never question the heart of a Coach McDonell coached team but I'd like to see some real thought go into the strategy of recruiting and the implication of every single decision.

I should say, "0-5 record in the quarterfinals in the last six years..."

[UNHFan99]

I don't really believe getting better facilities should be the crutch UNH should rely on to get better recruits. We are at a disadvantage in recruiting because we are in the Northeast and we do not have the level of elite facilities that we would need to compete with most other schools in the CAA. We refuse to become an institution that takes in highly-regarded transfers who are dissatisfied with their current institution.

IMO, and I've got no insider knowledge here, we need to be smarter about strategy and execution in recruiting. For all I know, Coach MAC may have a very effective, working strategy about recruiting and a recruiting change might be disastrous. With that said, I think it's hard to ignore its impact on the plateauing of our team once we make the playoffs. You cannot ignore an 0-5 record in the Quarterfinals in the last 5 years. What did Villanova, UNI, UMass and Montana have that we didn't? Sure seems to me like they had players that were just better at what we were trying to do.

I'd just like to see some outside the box thinking. The will to win sometimes just isn't good enough. I will never question the heart of a Coach McDonell coached team but I'd like to see some real thought go into the strategy of recruiting and the implication of every single decision.

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My point was that we go after the same kids as the other top teams in the CAA. I think UNH does an unbelievable job recruiting considering the facilities. Facilities are the most important thing in recruiting. When I was being recruited that was a concern of mine. The UNH coaching staff does an unbelievable job of emphasizing the strengths of NH and making you forget about the weaknesses. We do not have a great indoor facility to train during the winter. We dont have anywhere to have a pro day. Guys have had to workout in the basketball gym for theirs. As to not recruiting transfers. I believe it is because of the commitment the coaches ask of the players. To bring someone who just quit another program to take a kids job who has spent 11 and 1/2 months training for 3 years is irresponsible.

The UNH players also pay their own way for the summer. This is where the character of our players seperates us from alot of programs. They work jobs to be on campus with no assistance from the athletic department and have over 60 players on campus training consistantly all summer. I spoke with an ex hofstra player about our summer workout program and scoffed at the idea of working 9 to 5 and then training afterwords as a team. He said about 10 to 15 guys stay during the summer and they take classes to in order to get their scholarship money to stay.

The coaching staff recruits for character and kids that are just good at football. We rarely make a mistake with a kid that has the size to play FBS ball and but cant. We normally take an undersized over achieving kid with a great skill set that would be a perfect FBS walkon.

[UNHFootballAlum]

we cant recruit bc our stadium sucks...there are high school fields in the south better than ours

agreed. UNH does a great job recruiting based on the facitilities we have to offer compared to otheres in our league

[UNHFootballAlum]

Congrats to nova. No question they played better. As for UNH & every other team save one--we all lose the last game in playoffs. Still a terrific year-again for Coach mac & staff. With Hofstra & NE out UNH should be able to recruit a little easier. There are tons of terrific players out there just gotta find them. This year's USC team's OL did not have a man over 300. We gotta get stronger though. And have a power run game when needed. 2010 is the year for UNH to break thru to the next round. Go Cats!!xnodx

We should be mixing in more power running formations where the RB gets a 5 yard run towrd to line of scrimmage. This will limit the negative yardage plays

[WrenFGun]

I am not INSULTING UNH's job. I think they've done a phenomenol job of finding talent given the situation. I just think we're losing out on enough people that we're having a hard time competing with those teams.

We might have a better shot if we completely re-vamped are strategy and tried to recruit kids that other schools in the CAA simply were not doing.

I remember when Maine Basketball tried to recruit mainly kids from Maine to play there...it wasn't really the RIGHT strategy but I applauded them because they realized what they were currently doing wasn't quite working. I'd like to see UNH try strategy similar to that thought process (not that strategy, obv.).

[jlcharles]

Nova's facilities are some of the worst I've ever seen.

Oh come on, our facilities aren't that bad.

[UNHAlum]

Nova's facilities are some of the worst I've ever seen.

no no, UNH's facilities are the worst...ever.

[Wildcat80]

Oh come on, our facilities aren't that bad.

Stadium is old-like UNH. We need a newer press box. Both have turf. I'd say our weight room is nicer--newer equipment-not under stands. UNH has two lighted practice fields--old turf though. Now if we are comparing others you have BE bball. We have Hockey.

[Wildcat80]

Re:recruiting. The reality is there are now 20-24 scholarship kids that will NOT be going to NE or Hof. UNH only needs a couple difference makers a year to go to UNH. We are that close---top 8 in FCS--six years running. Although yesterday that would have been no help. Coaches get a 1 week start on the last 4.

[yorkcountyUNHfan]

Toman is simply HORRIBLE!!!!!!I am a better QB then him and I play hockey!! Vill is a better team but we had a horrible horrible QB!!! I dont care about Weather!!! He was Horrible!!!

That statement tells me you have no idea what the weather was

[yorkcountyUNHfan]

...Then why are we doing the same thing everyone else is? There are a players/recruit types that are undervalued, always. UNH tends to always land some of those types (Terrance Klein comes to mind..).

Not sure of you're point here.

I don't think we're doing the same thing everyone else is. Because of our facilities and location, we will, almost always, lose out to other program in head to head recruiting wars with other schools. Most of our roster is made up of kids that had no other options. Our coaches go out and get hard working kids that may have been over looked elsewhere (Terrance Kline is a great example of this type of kid, although I don't know about his recruting situation he's the type of kid UNH loves). If we do get a player that had other options it is because of our coaching staff and the type of program they run.

We need to upgrade facilities, plan and simple. Then we may win more of the jump balls in the recruting department. We may also see some home games in December. Home games would go far to get up past the second round.



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[jlcharles]

Stadium is old-like UNH. We need a newer press box. Both have turf. I'd say our weight room is nicer--newer equipment-not under stands. UNH has two lighted practice fields--old turf though. Now if we are comparing others you have BE bball. We have Hockey.

Stadium is older, but that press box is <10 years old I think. Same with the weight room I believe. One of our explayers (wideright82) can verify that. I seem to remember them redoing the weight room while I was there.

[wideright82]

Stadium is older, but that press box is <10 years old I think. Same with the weight room I believe. One of our explayers (wideright82) can verify that. I seem to remember them redoing the weight room while I was there.


Yeah VU's weight room is on the smallish side but the equipment was all replaced withing the last 2 years. It is nothing that a FCS recruit would see and make him change his mind about attending Villanova, but it is also not nice enough to win over a recruit. Our locker room is plenty big but I will admit that our opposing team locker room is bad...not as bad as UNH, Northeastern, or URI, but bad. Hopefully w/ in the next 4 or 5 years we can raise some funds and get a football only facility in the endzone opposite the Field House.

[yorkcountyUNHfan]

Yeah VU's weight room is on the smallish side but the equipment was all replaced withing the last 2 years. It is nothing that a FCS recruit would see and make him change his mind about attending Villanova, but it is also not nice enough to win over a recruit. Our locker room is plenty big but I will admit that our opposing team locker room is bad...not as bad as UNH, Northeastern, or URI, but bad. Hopefully w/ in the next 4 or 5 years we can raise some funds and get a football only facility in the endzone opposite the Field House.

I think URI's visitors locker room is now in the Ryan center....are they really that bad?

[UNHFootballAlum]

Yeah VU's weight room is on the smallish side but the equipment was all replaced withing the last 2 years. It is nothing that a FCS recruit would see and make him change his mind about attending Villanova, but it is also not nice enough to win over a recruit. Our locker room is plenty big but I will admit that our opposing team locker room is bad...not as bad as UNH, Northeastern, or URI, but bad. Hopefully w/ in the next 4 or 5 years we can raise some funds and get a football only facility in the endzone opposite the Field House.

Villanova also has a nationally recognized basketball program. That helps a great deal when you are on national TV quite often throughout the year and make it to the final four. UNH doesn't have anything like that. yes we have Hockey, but it doesn't draw like NCAA BBALL

[jlcharles]

Yeah VU's weight room is on the smallish side but the equipment was all replaced withing the last 2 years. It is nothing that a FCS recruit would see and make him change his mind about attending Villanova, but it is also not nice enough to win over a recruit. Our locker room is plenty big but I will admit that our opposing team locker room is bad...not as bad as UNH, Northeastern, or URI, but bad. Hopefully w/ in the next 4 or 5 years we can raise some funds and get a football only facility in the endzone opposite the Field House.

Yep, the visitors and the refs locker rooms are in Nevin. Never been inside any of it, so I can't comment. Are there plans to do something with the concession stand area for the team? If they're going that route, some sort of stands that could roll out over the track without damaging it would be nice. Not that they'd get used much, but I'd love to see stands in the endzones.

[UNHlund]

That statement tells me you have no idea what the weather was

In UNHFan's defense, Decker seemed to have far less trouble with the conditions, completing half of his passes to Toman's third, and scoring the only UNH TD. Yes, I realize Decker was facing defensive backups, but it just reaffirmed my belief that Decker is the better QB.

[santosballnewhampshire]

Do any Villnova fans think there is a possibility of Andy Talley retiring after the season? Maybe if he wins the NC?

[yorkcountyUNHfan]

In UNHFan's defense, Decker seemed to have far less trouble with the conditions, completing half of his passes to Toman's third, and scoring the only UNH TD. Yes, I realize Decker was facing defensive backups, but it just reaffirmed my belief that Decker is the better QB.

I don't to come across as anti Decker. UNH fans (and others) have been far to quick to blame the QB for the offensive problems this year. Was RJ part of the issue? Yes, but there are/were many more issues to be found for anyone who would take a closer look.

Who will be the starter next year? I don't know. But anyone who thinks that Coach Mac isn't putting the players on the field that he feels gives UNH the best chance to win is sadly mistaken.

10-2 doesn't suck. UNH is very close to getting over the hump. Don't panic, stay on track. We're headed in the right direction.

[yorkcountyUNHfan]

Oh and Congrats to Villanova on a great effort.

[UNH72Plus]

Congratulations Nova!

The local paper in Concord accurately decribed the game as "the perfect storm", literally and figuratively. The game was a total team loss. The OL line couldn't pass block or open the holes for the runs, the D couldn't complete their tackles and were often driven back 5-10 yards after the inital contact. Our recievers had trouble getting open, and dropped too many passes when they managed to get free. Toman was mediocre, and although much of his ineptness was due to the constant pressure, there were times when be flat out missed open receivers. The play that most represents the game was on the punt where we held Nova to a 3 and out and the punter returner muffed the punt. Finally, the coaching staff's offensive game plan was it's usual bland self. It's time for a new offensive coordinator.

I don't doubt for a minute that the conditions were terrible, but Nova still found a way (actually many ways) to put 46 points on the scoreboard. They did it by takeaways, running the ball, setting up the runs with well placed/well executed pass plays (Szczur was great), and by defensive domination led by Kukucka.

The one high point of the game was the TD pass that Decker threw to Mangieri.

Re: the facilities and in particular, the weight rooms, didn't UNH renovate their weight room a couple of years ago thanks to big gift from Jerry Azuma?

[GoWildcats789]

...Then why are we doing the same thing everyone else is? There are a players/recruit types that are undervalued, always. UNH tends to always land some of those types (Terrance Klein comes to mind..).

Klein had an offer from Rutgers...

UNH wins some recruiting battles here and there...

Kenny Howard had offers from Akron, Cincinnati, Marshall and North Carolina State

Chris Houston had offers from Duke and Army

Jack Jamerson had offers from Akron, Kent State, Army, Miami (Oh) and Ohio.

Nick Schmalhofer had offers from App State, Eastern Michigan, etc.

[rcny46]

I think that JT Wright was also recruited by and set to attend Wisconsin before a new head coach took over and caused a change in plans.Speaking of Kenny Howard,do you happen to know if he's taken care of his academic issues and still attending UNH? Having him and Chris Setian in the BF next year along with Sean Jellison would be something to look forward to.

Kyle Maroney is a transfer from Army,and I believe Dan Larkin got looks from Iowa,Syracuse,and a couple of MAC schools.

[jlcharles]

Do any Villnova fans think there is a possibility of Andy Talley retiring after the season? Maybe if he wins the NC?

He's a young 66. I have a better chance having Santa and his reindeer land on my roof than him retiring.

[WrenFGun]

Klein had an offer from Rutgers...

UNH wins some recruiting battles here and there...

Kenny Howard had offers from Akron, Cincinnati, Marshall and North Carolina State

Chris Houston had offers from Duke and Army

Jack Jamerson had offers from Akron, Kent State, Army, Miami (Oh) and Ohio.

Nick Schmalhofer had offers from App State, Eastern Michigan, etc.

GOWildcats789, I'm aware that we have won recruiting battles in the past but I just don't know that we can do it enough to really line up and beat teams in the playoffs playing with the same type of recruit that they're also going after.

I would like to see us just go in a complete different direction with recruiting...Determine what the recruiting market deems less than impressive (as a group, not as a player...so, small/speedy WR's, undersized OL with speed, undersized DL with speed..etc.) and go recruit them. I just think it would be an interesting and different way to try and knock off some of the teams above us. I have no doubt that once they come to UNH we could mold them into exactly what we want.

[UNHAlum]

I think that JT Wright was also recruited by and set to attend Wisconsin before a new head coach took over and caused a change in plans.Speaking of Kenny Howard,do you happen to know if he's taken care of his academic issues and still attending UNH? Having him and Chris Setian in the BF next year along with Sean Jellison would be something to look forward to.

Kyle Maroney is a transfer from Army,and I believe Dan Larkin got looks from Iowa,Syracuse,and a couple of MAC schools.

JT's scholarship was actually for placekicking to Wisconsin

[smcwildcat]

correct unhalum....also dontre peters will only be a soph. coaches are very excited about him...we will have fox back orlando, mangeri, and dont forget chris jeniot** he has been a good te behind sicko and should step into the spotlight nicely
make no mistake unh will be back I believe we will have the best db's in the caa next year
vasso souza ryan mccguiness chris houston etc.

[Will]

I have concerns on offense, especially at RB and WR. Is Jellison our starting next year? Does Kenny Howard come back from academic suspension? Do we pick up a transfer from Northeastern or Hofstra?

[UNH_Alum_In_CT]

First day back on AGS after my trip to Philly. Congrats to Nova, you really took us to the woodshed.

Read through the entire thread, really disappointed at all the Toman bashing. Did any of you experts know that he came out of the game because he was injured? The beating he took all game finally took its toll. I can't believe anybody would try and hang this game on him. Wren described a play that I thought was indicative of the first half, that one step drop designed for a quick hit where he still got clobbered. How is that his fault? Our OL got manhandled.

UNH is a spread offense that needs to involve multiple receivers on possession passing. The passing sets up the run. We couldn't pass the ball. Even if the OL provided the time, I'm not sure how successful we'd be in that slop. I stood through that entire game and in those conditions there were going to be drops, there were going to be bad throws, there were going to be receivers falling down, etc. And as soon as UNH failed on a first down play, Nova even with a 7-0 and 10-0 lead could pin its ears back and bring the house on subsequent plays. I just don't see how UNH could have executed its offense in those conditions to beat a team as good as Villanova.

Yeah, Nova managed to score forty plus points with their offense. They got ahead on the first play, ran mostly straight handoff between the tackle type plays, parlayed a huge OL and excellent running backs to slowly forge ahead. They eventually wore down our D who was on the field ALL DAY and broke some big runs. They never attempted to field a punt (to avoid a fumble). They even took a knee on a run back to avoid a fumble. They didn't need to try any pitches, screen passes, options, etc. thanks to having the lead and a power game. They threw a few passes once they had a lead and had UNH anticipating run every play. They threw one pass early to make a first down that was a dying quail that somehow ended up as a completion. They didn't have to take any risks nor run the dynamic offense that UNH did. Shoot, even on a dry field UNH probably needed to not fall behind 7-0 to Nova!

I'd like one of you vocal complainers to tell me that leading up to the game you thought UNH could go head to head with Nova in a power game! I saw us play Nova the first time, I saw us play UMass and W&M and I sure never would have said that. We need to run our dynamic offense to win games against high caliper FCS teams. Even though our defense was significantly better this year, they couldn't be on the field so long against a final eight team.

Glad to see the predictable responses from Crusader11, would have been disappointed with anything less. If you think Decker faced the same defense that Toman did then you really are clueless or had been over served by that point in the game. How often did you see the Nova linebackers rushing while he was in the game?

Look, I'm just as frustrated as every other UNH fan. We all want to win, we all want to get beyond the quarterfinals, but you've got to keep things in perspective. That was an Imperfect Storm scenario for UNH that just spiraled downhill as the game progressed. And back in August I doubt many of us thought the quarterfinals were a sure thing. This was an outstanding season that close to a hundred other teams would like to have had. You've got to be good AND lucky once in the playoffs. The Weatherman didn't provide any "luck" for UNH this past weekend.

Kudos to Wren, Fanboi, YorkCounty, "05" and every other UNH backer who made the trek to the Main Line and endured those conditions. Probably only the 2004 monsoon game with W&M and the other monsoon games with Northeastern and Hofstra were played in as bad a condition as this game. Anybody recall that game with Hofstra where even David Ball wasn't a factor? Thank gawd for gore-tex and waterproof hiking boots!!!!! xnodx xlolx xlolx xlolx