AE eligibility

[AAadict]

It would certainly be fitting that AE go out with a NC. Not that he is lacking a NC but he is easily a top 5 QB's to ever play I-AA (FCS) football and each week at this point could be his final game. Doesn't matter what happens at the next level he has been worth the $ of admission in every game he ever appeared. As a fan of a program whose formula is transfer + 2 and out (sometimes NFL) my hat is off to Appalachian State for recruiting possibly the best QB to play at this level.

[KiddBrewer]

It would certainly be fitting that AE go out with a NC. Not that he is lacking a NC but he is easily a top 5 QB's to ever play I-AA (FCS) football and each week at this point could be his final game. Doesn't matter what happens at the next level he has been worth the $ of admission in every game he ever appeared. As a fan of a program whose formula is transfer + 2 and out (sometimes NFL) my hat is off to Appalachian State for recruiting possibly the best QB to play at this level.

REPS!

even if that was what you were fishing for. ha just kidding

[ASU Tailgaiteer]

I look forward to seeing him play tomorrow....and hopefully a few more times!

[spdram]

He is a remarkable athlete and as much as I would like to hate him I can't. I love to watch him play and hope he has to come to UR Stadium one week from tomorrow.

[MacThor]

I am amazed by what I've seen of him on TV.

I would also like to see him play in person. Two things need to happen tomorrow for that to happen!

[ThompsonThe]

The only BAD thing about seeing him in person is not normally having an instant replay, except on the scoreboard. On TV you can back it up and play it again and again to see if what you think you saw is actually what you saw.

[Purple7]

Good post AAadict...he is definitely one of the best.

[AppyinVA]

It would certainly be fitting that AE go out with a NC. Not that he is lacking a NC but he is easily a top 5 QB's to ever play I-AA (FCS) football and each week at this point could be his final game. Doesn't matter what happens at the next level he has been worth the $ of admission in every game he ever appeared. As a fan of a program whose formula is transfer + 2 and out (sometimes NFL) my hat is off to Appalachian State for recruiting possibly the best QB to play at this level.

CAA Fans are certainly a class act.

[Tribe4SF]

Phew!

When I saw this thread title, I was afraid he'd been granted another year.

[MarchingMountaineer]

Phew!

When I saw this thread title, I was afraid he'd been granted another year.

xlolx

Is that possible?? xscanx

[WrenFGun]

Not to continue the Armanti ballwashing, but his performance against Michigan was nothing short of absolutely remarkable. I was more impressed by his poise than his athleticism, oddly enough.

[asknoquarter21]

Good point, Everyone always talks about his amazing athleticiam, but if you have seen him play I have NEVER seen him play without composuer and confidence.

[CamelCityAppFan]

As remarkable an athlete as AE is, his head for the game is even more remarkable-- on-field leadership, defensive pattern recognition, field vision, and creativity. Lot of guys can throw and run, but it's the thinking/reacting part of his game that makes him outstanding, IMO.

[OL FU]

Phew!

When I saw this thread title, I was afraid he'd been granted another year.

My heart skipped abeatxeekx

[appirishmen]

*note: App fans did not start this* but i do agree. he will be missed in Boone.

[The Moody1]

My heart skipped abeatxeekx

Lamb would probably resign if that happened. :D

[lillycafe]

And he is supposedly taking 18 hours this semester to graduate in 3.5 years. It has been a fun 4+ years and I hope it continues, at least for 4 more games.

[Sam Minuteman]

As a Umas fan it was tough seeing him pick the Minutemen apart in the NC game a few years ago so i am glad he is gone. While there is a lot of talking to do about the games next week I am curious to hear what App fans think of the team that will be coming back next year. Seemed like they had a little trouble early in the season when AE was injured, any blue chippers coming in? I'm not calling App a 1 trick pony but it's hard to think they can be as good next year without him. Is the next QB a running guy as well?

[ASUG8]

As a Umas fan it was tough seeing him pick the Minutemen apart in the NC game a few years ago so i am glad he is gone. While there is a lot of talking to do about the games next week I am curious to hear what App fans think of the team that will be coming back next year. Seemed like they had a little trouble early in the season when AE was injured, any blue chippers coming in? I'm not calling App a 1 trick pony but it's hard to think they can be as good next year without him. Is the next QB a running guy as well?

Yeah, Travaris Cadet is a player in the style of Armanti, but bigger. I believe I read that he's faster than AE, but he's still young and hasn't demonstrated (to me anyway) that he's quite at the level we'd like at this point. You don't replace a player like AE - you just hope you can get someone close. Cadet will take the reigns next year, but it's going to take him a little time to develop the confidence passing and the patience that AE has really shown over the last couple of seasons. AE had "happy feet" a couple of years ago, where he'd take a quick look for receivers and then just tuck and run. Looking at his stats (pass vs. run) over the last two years, you can see he's really developed into a much more efficient passer. Cadet is very much where AE was, so I hope the ASU faithful can be patient enough to allow him to develop - he has a heck of a lot of potential IMHO.

[MaxASU'81]

As a Umas fan it was tough seeing him pick the Minutemen apart in the NC game a few years ago so i am glad he is gone. While there is a lot of talking to do about the games next week I am curious to hear what App fans think of the team that will be coming back next year. Seemed like they had a little trouble early in the season when AE was injured, any blue chippers coming in? I'm not calling App a 1 trick pony but it's hard to think they can be as good next year without him. Is the next QB a running guy as well?

I will detail some of that when the season is over! So come back and ask! But to whet your interest....The cupboard ain't bare!...only 1 AE! and probably not even close in my lifetime!

[MaxASU'81]

Yeah, Travaris Cadet is a player in the style of Armanti, but bigger. I believe I read that he's faster than AE, but he's still young and hasn't demonstrated (to me anyway) that he's quite at the level we'd like at this point. You don't replace a player like AE - you just hope you can get someone close. Cadet will take the reigns next year, but it's going to take him a little time to develop the confidence passing and the patience that AE has really shown over the last couple of seasons. AE had "happy feet" a couple of years ago, where he'd take a quick look for receivers and then just tuck and run. Looking at his stats (pass vs. run) over the last two years, you can see he's really developed into a much more efficient passer. Cadet is very much where AE was, so I hope the ASU faithful can be patient enough to allow him to develop - he has a heck of a lot of potential IMHO.

I would not be so quick to anoint Cadet! Just Saying!

[Rekdiver]

Cadet has to improve his passing. the redshirt freshman will win the QB battle next year.

[AppState336]

I know that there will be a battle for the QB spot next year. I belive Jamal Jackson will win out in the end. You can't replace AE, but the expectations are high with this kid. They are for me anyways..

[appstate1998]

I know that there will be a battle for the QB spot next year. I belive Jamal Jackson will win out in the end. You can't replace AE, but the expectations are high with this kid. They are for me anyways..

Yup he is a dual threat QB like Armanti...oh and he is 6'3. Cadet and Pressley can stick to special teams

[boonegoon]

Yup he is a dual threat QB like Armanti...oh and he is 6'3. Cadet and Pressley can stick to special teams

I agree. I think a Trey Elder type would have helped us tremendously this year. Hopefully Jackson is for real.

[WVAPPmountaineer]

I am amazed by what I've seen of him on TV.

I would also like to see him play in person. Two things need to happen tomorrow for that to happen!

I was walking into the Elon game with a couple of Elon fans and we were kidding each other and one said something like - Well we have Riddle - to which I asked - "Have you ever seen Armanti play?" - response - "only on tv" - to which my reply was - "then you haven't SEEN Armanti play" - He is one of those players who can't be truly appreciated unless seen in person ----

[AppIAA]

Don't be surprised if you hear of another QB in the mix for next year... Will not say the name yet, but here's a hint -- he was a walk on qb, and was moved to TE this year

[ThompsonThe]

So, the East Carolina QB was playing his 6th year this year, and he got to do that how?

[AppIAA]

So, the East Carolina QB was playing his 6th year this year, and he got to do that how?

Same way Matt Cline is going to be able to do it next year.. got an extra year of eligibility because of medical hardship(s)

[Skjellyfetti]

Same way Matt Cline is going to be able to do it next year.. got an extra year of eligibility because of medical hardship(s)

He was granted a 5th year. It's pretty rare for someone to be granted a 6th.

[soccerguy315]

Yup he is a dual threat QB like Armanti...oh and he is 6'3. Cadet and Pressley can stick to special teams

you guys gotta teach him to fair catch if you're gonna leave him on special teams... yikes.

from someone who hasn't seen much of AE... it was very entertaining watching him last night. what a crafty player xthumbsupx

[mountaineertider]

Don't be surprised if you hear of another QB in the mix for next year... Will not say the name yet, but here's a hint -- he was a walk on qb, and was moved to TE this year

Are you serious? (Not in a bad way, I just hadn't thought of the possibility)

[ASU_Fanatic]

I think Armanti may be the most decorated FCS player ever. Likely to make it a second straight Payton this year and has a shot at his third title. You just can't say enough for what he's done for the whole University. After we lost Richie I wondered when we would have another one. It didn't take but one year. I remember sitting in Carter Finley when he took his first reps in a Mountaineer Uniform and I though who is this guy? He is just something else.

[AppIAA]

Are you serious? (Not in a bad way, I just hadn't thought of the possibility)

Its running in the rumor mill.. Not sure how true it is, but I would not be surprised if it happened.. However, if that is the case, I think there will be a little change to the offense -- more of a pass happy spread as opposed to run happy

[appstate1998]

Cadet should have to play QB once and only once next year and thats Nov 20th in Gainesville so we can protect our starter. Still can't believe we have that game right before the playoffs.

[AppIAA]

He was granted a 5th year. It's pretty rare for someone to be granted a 6th.

Right.. but it was the same way Matt Cline got another year of eligibility.. While I agree getting a 6th is rare, it was because of medical hardships

[ASU_Fanatic]

See, I post on other message boards (IGN) and people act like AE sucks because he plays FCS. It just pisses me off.

[appstate1998]

you guys gotta teach him to fair catch if you're gonna leave him on special teams... yikes.

from someone who hasn't seen much of AE... it was very entertaining watching him last night. what a crafty player xthumbsupx

he should be replaced by a freshman next year anyways. We got a kid coming in who runs a 4.28 40 yarder.

[Saint3333]

Its running in the rumor mill.. Not sure how true it is, but I would not be surprised if it happened.. However, if that is the case, I think there will be a little change to the offense -- more of a pass happy spread as opposed to run happy

No chance for Yokeley, it's between Jackson and Cadet this spring.

[rudy1648]

I think Armanti may be the most decorated FCS player ever. Likely to make it a second straight Payton this year and has a shot at his third title. You just can't say enough for what he's done for the whole University. After we lost Richie I wondered when we would have another one. It didn't take but one year. I remember sitting in Carter Finley when he took his first reps in a Mountaineer Uniform and I though who is this guy? He is just something else.

If you are talking about the game ASU played against NC State, Trey Elder started and played that whole game at Carter Finley. It was the year after Richie graduated and Trey inherited the starting role. Trey started the next game against JMU in Boone and was injured. That is when AE came in and never lost his starting position. I have heard it said many times "if Armanti had played that game, we may have beaten State".

[theasushow]

If you are talking about the game ASU played against NC State, Trey Elder started and played that whole game at Carter Finley. It was the year after Richie graduated and Trey inherited the starting role. Trey started the next game against JMU in Boone and was injured. That is when AE came in and never lost his starting position. I have heard it said many times "if Armanti had played that game, we may have beaten State".

correct. trey was blowing chunks on the sideline at the state game (he said that was all normal for him...ha, right). but in all fairness i think a lot of people forgot trey started at state, and AE didnt come around until the next week.

[appstate1998]

If you are talking about the game ASU played against NC State, Trey Elder started and played that whole game at Carter Finley. It was the year after Richie graduated and Trey inherited the starting role. Trey started the next game against JMU in Boone and was injured. That is when AE came in and never lost his starting position. I have heard it said many times "if Armanti had played that game, we may have beaten State".

actually Armanti did take snaps at the State game. He didn't do much at JMU the next week and Trey was in as a backup week 3 against Mars Hill. Trey played a backup role and played almost every regular season game that year.

I went to undergrad at App and Grad at State..and I love Corey Lynch....but watching this hit live was crazy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RNOiG52388

[AppMan]

Cadet should have to play QB once and only once next year and thats Nov 20th in Gainesville so we can protect our starter. Still can't believe we have that game right before the playoffs.

Remember, the top seeds get a bye week with the expanded playoffs next year.

[AppMan]

As a Umas fan it was tough seeing him pick the Minutemen apart in the NC game a few years ago so i am glad he is gone. While there is a lot of talking to do about the games next week I am curious to hear what App fans think of the team that will be coming back next year. Seemed like they had a little trouble early in the season when AE was injured, any blue chippers coming in? I'm not calling App a 1 trick pony but it's hard to think they can be as good next year without him. Is the next QB a running guy as well?

ASU should be very good again next season losing only 6 of the 22 starters. On offense, other than AE, we lose 1 OL, & 1 back up WR. The defense will see 2 starting and 1 back up DT's, middle LB, and 1 DB graduate. All specialists return. Last year's recruiting class may have been the single best group of athletes ever brought into Boone. We need some help on the interior of the D-line and I'd like to see one transfer brought in to shore that unit up. We need to build depth on the O-line and the staff has got off to a fast start getting several high quality early comittments.

[theasushow]

ASU should be very good again next season losing only 6 of the 22 starters. On offense, other than AE, we lose 1 OL, & 1 back up WR. The defense will see 2 starting and 1 back up DT's, middle LB, and 1 DB graduate. All specialists return. Last year's recruiting class may have been the single best group of athletes ever brought into Boone. We need some help on the interior of the D-line and I'd like to see one transfer brought in to shore that unit up. We need to build depth on the O-line and the staff has got off to a fast start getting several high quality early comittments.

oh gosh it's really starting to hit home now that next year #14 will be gone. just got so used to seeing him out there.

xbawlingx xbawlingx xbawlingx

[appstate1998]

Remember, the top seeds get a bye week with the expanded playoffs next year.

yeah but playing Florida to end the regular season still isn't a great idea

[WVAPPmountaineer]

correct. trey was blowing chunks on the sideline at the state game (he said that was all normal for him...ha, right). but in all fairness i think a lot of people forgot trey started at state, and AE didnt come around until the next week.

Trey was also playing with a shoulder surgery that hadn't fully healed - however he did lead us to a great win the next Saturday against JMU - then we had an off week i think and then Armanti took over full time ---- What A Ride ----

[CamelCityAppFan]

correct. trey was blowing chunks on the sideline at the state game (he said that was all normal for him...ha, right). but in all fairness i think a lot of people forgot trey started at state, and AE didnt come around until the next week.

I believe AE played 2 series at the the end of the game. And we were thinking the same thing...who is that skinny kid?

[appstate1998]

I believe AE played 2 series at the the end of the game. And we were thinking the same thing...who is that skinny kid?

I was sitting in the State section and they were all laughing at his size. But my prediction in June 2006 from app message board came true

>>>>>>>

The problem I see with Elder as the ASU quarterback is that it is built completely around the quarterback and his ability to run the option. Elder is not as mobile a quarterback as Richie and he showed in the championship that he isn't capable up handling pressure or the big game. Either way...I don't see Elder as the starter for the next two years. I wouldn't be completely shocked if by the end of the year Armanti Edwards was taking the snaps. His senior year he passed for 2,000 yards and ran for over 1,100 and had 17 passing td's and 12 rushing....sounds familiar to a recent ASU QB. I like the stats from the two QB's ASU are bringing in. The other guy CoCo Hillary tallied 3,100 yards of total offense and 37 touchdowns his senior year and Edwards has a 40-yard dash of 4.5 seconds. They both are pure athletes, so maybe they put them somewhere else...but if they are keeping to the same ASU offense as usual...it seems like these two guys were brought in to compete early. And I know Elder was great in high school and actually had better stats..but he just didn't look comfortable running the option last year.

[WVAPPmountaineer]

I was sitting in the State section and they were all laughing at his size. But my prediction in June 2006 from app message board came true

>>>>>>>

The problem I see with Elder as the ASU quarterback is that it is built completely around the quarterback and his ability to run the option. Elder is not as mobile a quarterback as Richie and he showed in the championship that he isn't capable up handling pressure or the big game. Either way...I don't see Elder as the starter for the next two years. I wouldn't be completely shocked if by the end of the year Armanti Edwards was taking the snaps. His senior year he passed for 2,000 yards and ran for over 1,100 and had 17 passing td's and 12 rushing....sounds familiar to a recent ASU QB. I like the stats from the two QB's ASU are bringing in. The other guy CoCo Hillary tallied 3,100 yards of total offense and 37 touchdowns his senior year and Edwards has a 40-yard dash of 4.5 seconds. They both are pure athletes, so maybe they put them somewhere else...but if they are keeping to the same ASU offense as usual...it seems like these two guys were brought in to compete early. And I know Elder was great in high school and actually had better stats..but he just didn't look comfortable running the option last year.

Wow - impressive prediction - I do think you were a little hard on Trey and handling the pressure - we wouldn't have won NC #1 without him bringing us back against Furman in the semis ----

[Eaglesrus]

It would certainly be fitting that AE go out with a NC. Not that he is lacking a NC but he is easily a top 5 QB's to ever play I-AA (FCS) football and each week at this point could be his final game. Doesn't matter what happens at the next level he has been worth the $ of admission in every game he ever appeared. As a fan of a program whose formula is transfer + 2 and out (sometimes NFL) my hat is off to Appalachian State for recruiting possibly the best QB to play at this level.

Yeah, and to think he seriously considered GSU before Van Gorder showed up; one of the many ways the BVG seemed to do all he could to destroy our program, intentionally or not. What a great problem it would have been to have to figure out how to use both Armanti and Jayson Foster at the same time!

Anyway, congratulations to Edwards on a great career and all the best in the future!

[AppIAA]

No chance for Yokeley, it's between Jackson and Cadet this spring.

We shall see... There could be some wrinkles entering the offense next year.. that is all I will say

[AppMan]

yeah but playing Florida to end the regular season still isn't a great idea

Historically speaking we seem to come out of these FBS games relatively injury free. Armanti was hurt going into the Michigan game not during that game. Obviously there were some bumps and bruises, but nothing major.

[AppMan]

Yeah, and to think he seriously considered GSU before Van Gorder showed up; one of the many ways the BVG seemed to do all he could to destroy our program, intentionally or not. What a great problem it would have been to have to figure out how to use both Armanti and Jayson Foster at the same time!

Anyway, congratulations to Edwards on a great career and all the best in the future!

I keep hearing from some GSU people how AE "seriously considered GSU", but I've never once heard that come from his lips or any story done on him. I hear The Citadel and Clemson mentioned, but never GSU. Did he make a visit, official or unofficial? Was he offered a scholarship?

[Eaglesrus]

I keep hearing from some GSU people how AE "seriously considered GSU", but I've never once heard that come from his lips or any story done on him. I hear The Citadel and Clemson mentioned, but never GSU. Did he make a visit, official or unofficial? Was he offered a scholarship?

This is from the Savannah Morning News' GSU beat writer Donald Heath on 10/22/09:

"It could have happened. During Armanti Edwards’ teleconference Wednesday, he talked about being recruited by Georgia Southern.

But when Brian VanGorder was hired, Armanti decided to go with Appalachian State, where he’s quarterbacked the Mountaineers to two national championships and three Southern Conference titles."

Newspaper guy saying it came from Armanti, for what it's worth.

[ASUG8]

This is from the Savannah Morning News' GSU beat writer Donald Heath on 10/22/09:

"It could have happened. During Armanti Edwards’ teleconference Wednesday, he talked about being recruited by Georgia Southern.

But when Brian VanGorder was hired, Armanti decided to go with Appalachian State, where he’s quarterbacked the Mountaineers to two national championships and three Southern Conference titles."

Newspaper guy saying it came from Armanti, for what it's worth.

Makes you wonder if BVG would still be there and if the Hatch attack would have ever happened. It's like they say, Dean Smith was the only guy to hold Michael Jordan under 20 points/game...xsmiley_wix

Seeing AE and Foster on the field at the same time in whatever capacity would have been an awesome sight to behold, assuming the coaching was in place to exploit it.

[CamelCityAppFan]

Seeing AE and Foster on the field at the same time in whatever capacity would have been an awesome sight to behold, assuming the coaching was in place to exploit it.

Holy cow, imagine them standing side-by-side in the shotgun. Who's the center going to snap it to this play? xeekx

[Eaglesrus]

Makes you wonder if BVG would still be there and if the Hatch attack would have ever happened. It's like they say, Dean Smith was the only guy to hold Michael Jordan under 20 points/game...xsmiley_wix

Seeing AE and Foster on the field at the same time in whatever capacity would have been an awesome sight to behold, assuming the coaching was in place to exploit it.

Unfortunately Edwards probably would have wasted a year just like BVG caused Jayson to do; hate to say it, but under the circumstances if Armanti did actually consider us he certainly made the right choice.

[Skjellyfetti]

This is from the Savannah Morning News' GSU beat writer Donald Heath on 10/22/09:

"It could have happened. During Armanti Edwards’ teleconference Wednesday, he talked about being recruited by Georgia Southern.

But when Brian VanGorder was hired, Armanti decided to go with Appalachian State, where he’s quarterbacked the Mountaineers to two national championships and three Southern Conference titles."

Newspaper guy saying it came from Armanti, for what it's worth.

I listened to that press conference. The reporter also asked him if he could see himself running the triple option... he said he could not.

He had a visit scheduled with Georgia Southern. When they hired BVG he cancelled it.

GSU fans make it seem like his bags were packed and he was ready to sign with Georgia Southern. That ain't the case.

[Eaglesrus]

I listened to that press conference. The reporter also asked him if he could see himself running the triple option... he said he could not.

He had a visit scheduled with Georgia Southern. When they hired BVG he cancelled it.

GSU fans make it seem like his bags were packed and he was ready to sign with Georgia Southern. That ain't the case.

Don't know what GSU fans you are referring to, but I certainly have never inferred that. I said he seriously considered it, and I do think that having scheduled a visit and only changing his mind when BVG was hired fits that category. Not that it makes any difference in this thread; the real point was just thinking about how amazing it would have been to see him and Foster in the same backfield.

[Saint3333]

We shall see... There could be some wrinkles entering the offense next year.. that is all I will say

If you run a two QB system you really don't have one.

[theasushow]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/stewart_mandel/12/07/college.football.overtime/2.html

more AE love!

[AppIAA]

If you run a two QB system you really don't have one.

That is not what I was inferring..

[appstate1998]

Wow - impressive prediction - I do think you were a little hard on Trey and handling the pressure - we wouldn't have won NC #1 without him bringing us back against Furman in the semis ----

I was prob a little hard on Trey but I thought he got lucky with that first pass. He is where he belongs now. I have always had disagreements with Jerry, but I love how the man takes care of his own.