Elon @ Richmond

[gophoenix]

you are a dumb a** my friend. App was my first choice with a 4.10 gpa. and half of the fam are doctors.... yea..... good luck Elon. following your logic, UR is just a small school that people who live in VA couldnt get into UVA or VT. what ever. good luck to both teams. and richmond, watch out, Elon likes to go for the knees and hurt ya.xnodx

xbawlingxxbawlingxxbawlingxxbawlingx
Elon tried to tackle Edwards
xbawlingxxbawlingxxbawlingxxbawlingx

[whoanellie]

after all this ka-ka and how asu zealots and over-pompous UofR fans have stroked this topic the Elon team bus decided to turn around as there was just no hope in facing a defending national champion...... NOT........ Elon will be there, play 100% and it will take a great effort to whomever for the victory..... Go Elon!!!

[soccerguy315]

you mean after all of this, what us posters say on message boards doesn't impact the game?!?!?!?!

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooo I have been lied to all this time!

[gophoenix]

you mean after all of this, what us posters say on message boards doesn't impact the game?!?!?!?!

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooo I have been lied to all this time!

LOL.

Sadly, some people seem to think so though.

[phillyAPP]

You must be color blind hill billy! I was AT THE GAME and i didnt see "that stadium was more than half APP"

xrotatehxxlolx


Show me a picture that is not doctored. I was in the far endzone and the whole endzone was APP and when I was at the entrance endzone it was mostly APP but who cares we won and right now Elon needs to win THEIR biigest game EVER by beating Richmond.

Good Luck the hump is still in front of YOU/Elon.

[SpidersSportsEditor]

Congrats to Elon's Hudgins, who is in this week's Sports Illustrated in the Faces in the Crowd section. If Elon has any chance in this game, he's gonna need to add to the already record-setting 100+ yard receiving games total.

[B&G]

I'm just glad to know Elon is going to show up and play hard. I feel like I'm watching an after school special.

[State Line Liquors]

I find this kind of funny. Richmond didn't clobber us last year. They pulled away in the second half when our players were on the sideline cramping up and unable to get an IV because our team doctor refuses to give them on the sideline, while Richmond's players were coming off the field and getting one whenever needed. It made a huge difference and I think that showed that Richmond's staff was prepared for the unbelievable heat that that game was played in while ours was not. I'm not saying that as an excuse, but giving them credit for outsmarting us. I am also not saying that we would have won that game had our players gotten IV fluids. But if fans remember the second half, our training staff was out on the field every series bringing someone off from cramping. It made a huge difference in that game.

...

Elon's d-line this year reminds me of Richmond's last year. I expect a close game and I really don't know who is going to win. Elon has a huge student and alumni base in the Richmond/DC/Baltimore area and Richmond isn't that far away from Elon, so I expect a strong showing from the alumni and student body. Good luck to the Spiders. I'm in Colorado, so I won't be able to make the game. Wish I could.


Your team coming out of the off-season was so unphysically fit that they didn't have enough IV's to satisfy them promptly. xnonono2x

Richmond, look out for that massive, motivated Elon alumni base.

Richmond's not going to blow anyone out here. It will be a major surprise if Elon wins though. Even the App State fans are trying to make this thread all about them. Seems like they're licking their chops for a Spider v. Mountaineer rematch.

[gophoenix]

Your team coming out of the off-season was so unphysically fit that they didn't have enough IV's to satisfy them promptly. xnonono2x

Richmond, look out for that massive, motivated Elon alumni base.

Richmond's not going to blow anyone out here. It will be a major surprise if Elon wins though. Even the App State fans are trying to make this thread all about them. Seems like they're licking their chops for a Spider v. Mountaineer rematch.

No, they just can't stand for any topic to not be about them.

[Appattk]

Show me a picture that is not doctored. I was in the far endzone and the whole endzone was APP and when I was at the entrance endzone it was mostly APP but who cares we won and right now Elon needs to win THEIR biigest game EVER by beating Richmond.

Good Luck the hump is still in front of YOU/Elon.



http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2575/4109535088_bbd81c009f_o.jpg

[DTSpider]

On a side note - I love Elon's stadium.

[spdram]

very similar schools, looking forward to a good game tomorrow. And of course a Spider victory!

Good Luck to both teams, here's hoping for an exciting injury free game.

[kdinva]

very similar schools, looking forward to a good game tomorrow. And of course a Spider victory!

Good Luck to both teams, here's hoping for an exciting injury free game.
Has any UR folk heard of advance ticket sales, especially amongst the students?

watching Texas v. Texas A&M last night made me smile. Both bands, and at least 8,000 A&M Students foregoing thanksgiving dinner at home to support their team.

[SpidersSportsEditor]

Has any UR folk heard of advance ticket sales, especially amongst the students?

watching Texas v. Texas A&M last night made me smile. Both bands, and at least 8,000 A&M Students foregoing thanksgiving dinner at home to support their team.

I've heard advanced ticket sales are pretty good on the home side for general fans. Students are admitted free to all games, so no official word on that. But, I'm a student and I expect many more students to be at this game than past Thanksgiving week playoff games. Definitely not going to wow you like Texas and A&M, but I'm optimistic for a decent student crowd. No guarantees though.

[spdram]

Big in state contest between VT an UVA tomorrow also, don't expect to get many of the casual fans.

[gophoenix]

I've heard advanced ticket sales are pretty good on the home side for general fans. Students are admitted free to all games, so no official word on that. But, I'm a student and I expect many more students to be at this game than past Thanksgiving week playoff games. Definitely not going to wow you like Texas and A&M, but I'm optimistic for a decent student crowd. No guarantees though.

Students aren't free for playoff games. Or, I thought they weren't supposed to be.

[spdram]

Many schools will have the athletic dept pick up the tab for the students, or they will get a corp sponsor to do so. I have no idea if Richmond is doing that this year, I think last year the students paid only $5 because someone picked up the difference.

[gophoenix]

Many schools will have the athletic dept pick up the tab for the students, or they will get a corp sponsor to do so. I have no idea if Richmond is doing that this year, I think last year the students paid only $5 because someone picked up the difference.

Aha! That's great if that's how it happened!

Leaving early AM, looking forward to the game.

Later guys!

[ngineer]

Here's to a good game. I'm picking the Spiders in a close one, 24-21; but pulling for Elon so that we can have the 'potential' of two former Lehigh coaches, who coached together when Lehigh had its great run in 1999-2004, face each other in the Finals! Yeah, one can dream... Elon and Holy Cross are at opposite sides of the brackets, so the only way Lembo can face Gilmore is for them both to reach the finals.

[phoenixphanatic21]

Students aren't free for playoff games. Or, I thought they weren't supposed to be.

Elon students are getting in for free, somehow. Whatever. I'm not complaining. 13 hours til kickoff and I cannot wait. Leaving Elon at 9 am to get up to Richmond in time for kickoff. Best of luck to both teams and here's to an Elon victory!

[Elon Fightin' Christians]

Looking forward to a great game. Hope both teams play well.

and, lets all hope that whoever wins this game also wins next week.

GO FIGHTIN' CHRISTIANS !!!!

[AppyinVA]

Richmond could very well lose this game.

[elon77]

Big in state contest between VT an UVA tomorrow also, don't expect to get many of the casual fans.

UVA has a team this year? :D

[State Line Liquors]

Richmond could very well lose this game.

28 pages of banter, and I think we've finally uncovered a great truth here.
xbowx xlolx

[SpidersSportsEditor]

Since there's no TV for this game, if you're looking for detailed updates along with score and quarterly updates, I'll be blogging from the press box during the game (assuming my flight from Philly gets to Richmond on time) on the website for the Richmond student newspaper, The Collegian. Just go to urcollegian.com, it will be the top story on the front page.

Seems like its been an eternity since Selection Sunday, can't wait for this one to get going...

[JMU-MRD-DAD]

I'm heading to the Elon-UR game today with a couple of friends. I think the game will be close but as posted earlier, I see Richmond winning this one. I'm looking forward to seeing Riddle/Hudgins in action.

[DTSpider]

It's almost time. Packing up the supplies now. It's a beautiful fall day out. Good luck to both teams and safe travels to all coming. Honestly - football doesn't get much better than this.

[appirishmen]

good luck to both teams! hope to see one of yall next week.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

I'm trying to get the channelsurfing link to work but no dice. Anyone got anything?

[cougarpines]

No luck either

[ItsyBitsySpider]

3-0 Spids

[SFspidur]

Head to RichmondSpiders.com and click on the "watch" link near the preview story for the game. Unfortunately, audio is down at the moment.

Or, try this: http://all-access.cbssports.com/player.html?code=ncaa&media=155474

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

This could be big weekend for Richmond athletics after their bball team beat a good Mississippi State team last night.

[SFspidur]

Spiders get Mizzou on the hardwood tonight...yes, it's a big couple of days for Spider athletics.

Not to mention that our ladies hoops team pasted Clemson yesterday and gets UConn tomorrow.

[ItsyBitsySpider]

Got Missouri tonight. Would be huge win if we can get it

[insideout08]

Free video of this game on NCAA.com.

Elon lost Joshua Jones for the game (aircast) on the second play of the game.

[SFspidur]

Audio is back on the Richmond webcast.

3-0 end of first. Spiders with the ball at about their own 25.

[SFspidur]

Ward runs for a 74 yard TD!

PAT good...10-0 Spiders.

[ItsyBitsySpider]

EW!!!!!!!!!!11

[Bettina90]

He actually ran that the whole way? I came back from the kitchen to see him run the last 20 yards.

[redspider]

Wow see how good are quarterback is and he gets not respect! Third team CAA yeah right! 75 yards I cant believe it wow! wow!

[ItsyBitsySpider]

faked the dive, came around end, and nothing but green grass

[Bettina90]

and I don't know if I can call Mississippi State a "good" team just yet. They got blown out by Rider on their home court. Good win nonetheless.

[seattlespider]

Spiders having trouble getting pressure on Elon QB.

[SFspidur]

Riddle starting to click..Phoenix moving quickly downfield.

[Bettina90]

Keep'em out of the end zone.

[SFspidur]

Spiders hold...FG attempt coming.

24-yard FG good. 10-3 Spiders.

9:43 to go in first half.

[seattlespider]

Nice stop on 3rd down.

[SFspidur]

Phoenix players are dropping like flies...three significant injuries so far. Tough breaks.

Darrius McQueen is the latest to go down. Bringing the ambulance out for him...he's got movement, but keeping his neck stabilized.

[seattlespider]

Bringing the cart out again. That is too bad. Never like to see injuries.

[ItsyBitsySpider]

those all look like season-ending injuries. Thinking back to last year, these guys must be allergic to Spiders

[seattlespider]

Ward is on point today.

[SpidersSportsEditor]

Blatant late hit by Elon on Ward not called. Guess the App fans were right about the cheap shots.

[ItsyBitsySpider]

first down from the Elon 13. Need to punch this in and then start playing the pass the rest of the game.

[DX Man]

Blatant late hit by Elon on Ward not called. Guess the App fans were right about the cheap shots.


We tried to tell you!

[Bettina90]

Ouch, WAS on point. That was a waltz into the end zone.

[ItsyBitsySpider]

Damn ...blew an easy 6 there

[seattlespider]

Brutal missed opportunity. But we got points. 13-3.

[LacesOut]

Ahhhhh damn, should been a TD for UR. Overthrow to a wide open player in the flat.

FG UR. 13-3.

[seattlespider]

Nice stop. Let's get points as Elon gets the ball to start the second half.

[ItsyBitsySpider]

Wow is the O clicking

[ItsyBitsySpider]

perfectly timed jinx ..holding

[LacesOut]

Crap.

INT for Elon.

[ItsyBitsySpider]

Ward picked on a tipped ball. Got to say though ..nothing about the Elon D is scaring me. I know there offense is dangerous though so got to avoid the big plays. Tough loss losing J. Jones.

[seattlespider]

Spiders get a stop and timeout with 20 seconds left. Elon to punt.

[seattlespider]

13-3 at half. UR has looked pretty good with the exception of a couple of missed opportunities.

[Bettina90]

Awful start.

[seattlespider]

What a goal-line stand!

[Bettina90]

Wow, great and huge stand.

[seattlespider]

WOW! How did Ward make that?!?

[asknoquarter21]

Score?

Winner plays ASU

20-13 over SCST

[seattlespider]

13-6 Richmond. Elon to punt. 4:00 left in 3rd.

http://channelsurfing.net/watch-richmond.html

[SFspidur]

13-6 Spiders, 4:00 left in the third and Elon about to punt from their own 20-ish.

[asknoquarter21]

Thanks, whoever wins isn't gonna get much to see from ASU, worst game we have played and won in a long long time

[Aho_Old_Guy]

THAT was a fumble :D

[seattlespider]

Spider running starting to assert itself.

[SFspidur]

End of three. Spiders 1st and Goal.

[3E9App]

ELON Interception!

Edit: I just think I just threw up a bit cause I got excited over Elon football

[SFspidur]

Ugh...Ward pressured and throws INT at the 2.

[Bettina90]

Is Ward kidding me?

[seattlespider]

Wow. INT at the two.

[SFspidur]

Ooh...two Spiders had their hands on that one. That would have been a pick six for sure.

[seattlespider]

Good grief. Be nice to get one of those INTs for ourselves.

[SFspidur]

Knocked down! Elon to punt from the back of its own end zone.

[seattlespider]

Big pass breakup by Wheldon!

[SFspidur]

Spiders get the ball at the Elon 26...great return by Hatcher.

[seattlespider]

Spider ball at the Elon 26, 13:00 left in the 4th. 13-6 UR.

[SFspidur]

Ugh....crappy series. Ward not making good decisions or throws at this point. Odd.

[seattlespider]

Bad series for UR. FG attempt.

[SFspidur]

42-yard FG for the Spiders good!

16-6

[seattlespider]

Howard MVP of the game so for. UR 16-6.

[T-Dog]

"From what we know about Appy State, it must have been a good football game" - UR commentator.

Oh how wrong you are.

[T-Dog]

Hudgins TD. Great drive by Elon.

16-13 Ticks, 9:45 left.

[3E9App]

Elon pulls within 3

[SFspidur]

Riddle to Hudgins TD, 16-13 Spiders. 9:00 left.

[appstate38]

Come on Phoenix..... Rep the SoCon!

[Bettina90]

Nice, perfect time for the video feed to start getting all jacked up.

[3E9App]

3rd and Looooooong for Richmond

[T-Dog]

Elon's got a great red zone defense.

[3E9App]

46 Yd FG is No Good
16-13 Richmond

[BlackNGold]

What a Game in Boone.. ok Watching yalls online now... Looks like a good one!

[Bettina90]

Barnburner.

[appstate38]

Can the Phoenix capitalize

[WrenFGun]

Elon playing much better than expected. I'm going to eat crow either way, here. Nice job, Elon!

[3E9App]

BIG PASS FOR ELON Down to the 17!

[BlackNGold]

Just tuned into it:

http://all-access.cbssports.com/player.html?code=ncaa&media=155474

[B&G]

Hudgins is a MAN

[Aho_Old_Guy]

Rut-Ro.

Elon on the Spider 10 ---- 2 minutes to go

[seattlespider]

Wow.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

No Good!! Wow Elon really choked that one!!

[3E9App]

Elon can't get in the endzone try to tie it up but field Goal is no good

[Bettina90]

Wow. Get this one over with. Elon played very well but the Spiders killed themselves with mistakes. Or nearly killed themselves.

[GoBlueHens83]

Wide left wow!

[BlackNGold]

Would have loved to see that replay again of Elon 3rd and 3 play which went into the Endzone and rulled catch out of bounds.... SURE LOOKED like a TD to me...

[mistersykes]

Trying to watch on http://www.channelsurfing.net/watch-richmond.html, but only get

"Richmond - WWW.CHANNELSURFING.NET" and some ads.

What gives?

[Chemhen]

How many games has Richmond won on last second block/miss FGs?

[Edge316007]

Terrible play calling by Elon. Why not call something short and try to pick up the first at least?

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Terrible play calling by Elon. Why not call something short and try to pick up the first at least?

I agree, those two fade patterns were not what i would have called. The Fightin Lembo's!!

[B&G]

Trying to watch on http://www.channelsurfing.net/watch-richmond.html, but only get

"Richmond - WWW.CHANNELSURFING.NET" and some ads.

What gives?

download MS Silverlight

[T-Dog]

Well, it's a win-win for App regardless. We either get to redo 3 weeks ago in Boone, or recreate 1865 in Richmond.

[3E9App]

Looks like Elon will have one last shot.
30 Seconds left.

[theasushow]

looks like the boys are headed to Richmond. where they definitely wont be favored.

[Bettina90]

Kick it. Out. Of Bounds.

[B&G]

Not over yet...

[BlackNGold]

Elon will have ~ 30 seconds, no timeouts and a chance to tie with a FG

[Bettina90]

wow, the feed was grainy but it looked like they got awful close to that punt.

[BlackNGold]

17 seconds. 2nd and 10 on spiders 45

[Elon Fightin' Christians]

need a miracle.... c'mon boys .

[3E9App]

13 Seconds
Elon on Spider 37

[SFspidur]

Not only were they awful close, they ran into Wiegand...where was the flag?

[BlackNGold]

13 seconds. 3rd and 3 on 37

[BlackNGold]

7 seconds 2nd and 10 Field Goal unit coming out... about a 48 yarder upcoming

[Bettina90]

Phew. Great game by Elon.

[BlackNGold]

kick came up about 20 yards short

[B&G]

Survive and advance indeed.

[seattlespider]

Total survival. Good game Elon.

[blur2005]

Uuuuuugly kick. Spiders survive. Go CAA.

[Ivytalk]

Spidahs win another close one! Congrats to both teams.xthumbsupx

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

That was poor coaching/game management by the Elon coaching staff.

Those calls on the drive before and not trying to get more yards at the end. Obviously their fg was not very good.

[redspider]

Wow that was wayyyy to close so many missed opprotunites by the offense that can't happen against App State or else we will have trouble. The one good thing I like is for the first time over the last four year App State will have to come to our place no Rock this time. I think that will even it out.

[caribbeanhen]

whew, you guys lucked it out

[Elon Fightin' Christians]

............Wow. DAMN !!!!!!!

Great game. Good Luck next week Spiders. Beat the appholes.

[T-Dog]

1865 it is.

[WrenFGun]

Again, great work Elon. I've likely done some combination of underrating Elon and overrating Richmond, but either way, great job. Could've easily won.

[ViennaSpider]

Survive and advance. Go Spiders!

[paward]

Win is a win, and I will take it. Elon played well! Good game, good win!

[ASU_MBA]

............Wow. DAMN !!!!!!!

Great game. Good Luck next week Spiders. Beat the appholes.

Don't be a poor sport because your kicker sucks. Have fun sitting at home next week. Destiny denied.

[BigHouseClosedEnd]

............Wow. DAMN !!!!!!!

Great game. Good Luck next week Spiders. Beat the appholes.

Good game, Elon! Bring on the Mountaineers!

[DX Man]

............Wow. DAMN !!!!!!!

Great game. Good Luck next week Spiders. Beat the appholes.

Shut up and go home. Your team choked. DESTINY........LOL

[kdinva]

I listened to about 50-60% of the game on radio........sounds like both squads had chances to score more, but Elon had more missed opportunities (based on the radio call, and browsing the play-by-play)............now they know how VMI felt most of 2009. Congrats to UR.

[elon77]

kick came up about 20 yards short

Kick was tipped but it might have been a little long for him anyway. Pretty good game, we had our chances.

[PhoenixSupreme]

Kick was tipped but it might have been a little long for him anyway. Pretty good game, we had our chances.

I felt the kick would have been too long for him regardless, and we should have been playing for the touchdown at the start of that final 30 second drive rather than for FG positioning. Anyways, congrats to Richmond to a well-played game and best of luck against App. St. (which I probably will attend just for the heck of it).

[UNH72Plus]

I gotta give Elon their props. I've been questioning their talent all year, but you stepped up against a very good Richmond team and held your own.

Spiders, good luck in the big re-match.

[DTSpider]

A very ugly game in which both teams left a lot of chances on the field. Just glad to come away with the win. Elon played hard and gave themselves a chance at the W. I sat on the visitors side so my 1-yr old could run around with her grammy (we sat in a section that probably only had about 10 people in addition to the 8 in our crew). The Elon fans around us were real nice.

[WrenFGun]

I gotta give Elon their props. I've been questioning their talent all year, but you stepped up against a very good Richmond team and held your own.

Spiders, good luck in the big re-match.

+1.

[SpidersSportsEditor]

+1.

Elon played very well and did exactly what they had to do to have a chance to win: they didn't turn the ball over once. Richmond missed two or three possible picks by running into each other, which was almost costly.

Oh, and Hudgins is by far the best wide receiver I have ever seen at this level. I would think he could have a pretty successful NFL career. Elon played with class (except for the one late hit on Ward that wasn't called) and left it all on the field, that's all you can ask for. Lembo took credit for the loss in the post game and Hudgins immediately said it was a team loss, not just on the coaches.

One more thing: Spider fans' thoughts are with the injured Elon players, especially the special teams player who came off on the stretcher. If any Elon fans know of his status, let us know.

[MacThor]

Whew.

Some observations from this game:
1) Elon fans turned out in greater numbers and VOLUME than expected. Good show.
2) Richmond's offense had better find its rhythm or we won't keep up with App St.
3) Sorry, W&M's defense is better than Elon's.
4) Hudgins is a beast - but seems like kind of an a$$. Even his own teammates appeared to want nothing to do with him, and he got away with two PF/UC dead ball fouls. He and McBride were jawing after many plays, he was also jawing with Elon coaches and tossing his helmet on the sideline. He did say "all the right things" after the game though. It was just kind of strange watching others' reactions to him between Elon's offensive plays.
5) Both teams left a lot of points off the board today. Richmond blew several chances to put the game away; Elon blew a few to take it away.
6) For their first FCS playoff game, Elon rep'd themselves very well. They were well prepared.

Good game Elon. See you in the first game at Robins Stadium!

PS - I found out after the game that my dad's college career ended vs. Elon (knee injury) back in the 60's. Small world for sure.

[HiHiYikas]

PS - I found out after the game that my dad's college career ended vs. Elon (knee injury) back in the 60's. Small world for sure.
Oh geeze...

cheap-shot comments from App State fans in 5...4...3...2...

[MacThor]

Oh geeze...

cheap-shot comments from App State fans in 5...4...3...2...

ACK! I never said it was a cheap shot. xlolx

[PhoenixMan]

Kick was tipped but it might have been a little long for him anyway. Pretty good game, we had our chances.

The kick at the end may have been tipped. The 27 yarder was not. If 40-45 yds is "a little long for him" we need another kicker. I know the kid feels bad, but it is a heartbreaker for everyone when the defense and offense plays their hearts out and the kicker lets you down. He missed a 27 and a 42 yarder to tie the game inside of two minutes. Elon play calling was suspect (again). It seems that when it gets crunch time we start throwing across the middle and down the field....usually to #19. And, it works, as it did today in the 4th quarter. First half, we had first and goal at the 2 yd. line, ran the same play twice, up the middle..stuffed. Then had to throw, and couldn't get it in the end zone. Throw the d*&# ball to Hudgins! Good season, disappointing end. Richmond's D and Eric Ward (running the ball) were both great. Go App St.! (did I just say that??)xeyebrowx

[spdram]

Kudos to Elon team and to the fans, great showing. You gave Ward a fit today, worse game I have seen him play since his freshman year. Thank goodness for our D and that our kicker has found the range again two weeks ago you would have won this one going away due to missed kicks alone.

Hope your injured players are not serious, I understand Jones was back on the sidelines so hopefully not as serious as it looked. Don't recall the name of the second player looked like an ankle to me, and glad to see we were able to get the family of Darrius (?) on the field, if I heard correctly no where nearly as serious as it looked (concussion with neck strain was what I was told -- just taking percautions).

BTW on the post game a DLman said he got his hand on the last FG attempt -- could not have gotten much on it, but apparently enough.

Both teams left way to many points on the field. Look forward to seeing you at the Robins Stadium next year.

[ur2k]

like ram said - Elon showed well today. Hudgins was a beast. you guys played great. see you at the new stadium next year!

[PhoenixMan]

The kick at the end may have been tipped. The 27 yarder was not. If 40-45 yds is "a little long for him" we need another kicker. I know the kid feels bad, but it is a heartbreaker for everyone when the defense and offense plays their hearts out and the kicker lets you down. He missed a 27 and a 42 yarder to tie the game inside of two minutes. Elon play calling was suspect (again). It seems that when it gets crunch time we start throwing across the middle and down the field....usually to #19. And, it works, as it did today in the 4th quarter. First half, we had first and goal at the 2 yd. line, ran the same play twice, up the middle..stuffed. Then had to throw, and couldn't get it in the end zone. Throw the d*&# ball to Hudgins! Good season, disappointing end. Richmond's D and Eric Ward (running the ball) were both great. Go App St.! (did I just say that??)xeyebrowx

I changed my mind....all Richmond fans that I encountered were cordial and respectful. I hope you rip App St. a new one next week and win Back to Back NC. xnodx App St. fans are far from that.....bunch of cocky pecker woods, and when things dont' go their way they whine about late hits. etc etc etc. Go Spiders!

[Cincy App]

Congrats Elon on an excellent season. Great showing in your first playoff game - one play away from a big win. I expected that your defense would keep you in today's game.

It will be strange to see an ASU - Elon game next year without Edwards and Hudgins.

[DX Man]

[/B]

I changed my mind....all Richmond fans that I encountered were cordial and respectful. I hope you rip App St. a new one next week and win Back to Back NC. xnodx App St. fans are far from that.....bunch of cocky pecker woods, and when things dont' go their way they whine about late hits. etc etc etc. Go Spiders!

Shut up and go home. Your team choked. DESTINY........LOL xlolx

[gophoenix]

Anyone that was watching or listening hear what happened to Darius McQueen? He was the one immobilized and taken off on a stretcher to the hospital.

Never a good sign when a player is down, all the ATCs are down working on him with coaches from both staff huddling over and both teams should genuine concern. And a crowd that seems concerned about an injury. The Richmond team and fans showed their real class with that way all that went down.

[gophoenix]

Also curious for the whistle for invalid call on that last punt for illegal call, whatever the heck that meant. Was it me or did the officiating crew never seem "in the game" today? How many picked up flags did they actually end up with?

Otherwise, great game overall. Was intense, both crowds into it and loud. Both teams pumped. Both teams making some huge plays at critical times. One of those games that you hate to be on the tail end of, but go away just saying it was a great game to watch. The football should be!

Kudos to the Richmond fans, so of the best fans I have been to a game around.

[PhoenixMan]

Anyone that was watching or listening hear what happened to Darius McQueen? He was the one immobilized and taken off on a stretcher to the hospital.

I heard it was a severe neck strain, and he's ok. They took all precautions as they should. It was scary. Josh Jones may have a torn ACL. Both of these updates could be BS, but I have heard it from several folks.

[gophoenix]

I heard it was a severe neck strain, and he's ok. They took all precautions as they should. It was scary. Josh Jones may have a torn ACL. Both of these updates could be BS, but I have heard it from several folks.

That's good, you never want to see players taken off like that, great work for the Richmond guys getting his family down there for the ambulance too.

[MacThor]

Also curious for the whistle for invalid call on that last punt for illegal call, whatever the heck that meant. Was it me or did the officiating crew never seem "in the game" today? How many picked up flags did they actually end up with?


(Just a guess) It looked like the PR was signaling "poison" since the ball was coming down short, but got his arms up enough that it looked like a fair catch signal?

Agreed on the officiating. This crew was worse than most regular season crews. For instance, how do you call a face mask penalty when you don't actually see the infraction, then need an official much further from the play to come and tell you there was no penalty? How does that flag even come out of your pocket?

[caribbeanhen]

Shut up and go home. Your team choked. DESTINY........LOL xlolx

Phoenix, your right about most ASU fans

[caribbeanhen]

What a physical game, The Spiders looked like Elon was spraying Raid towards the end, both teams exhausted after a very physical game...Hope the Spiders have enough life to bounce ASU again, but that Nova game was physical as well....just saying I hope the long CAA season doesnt catch up with you

[phoenixphanatic21]

(Just a guess) It looked like the PR was signaling "poison" since the ball was coming down short, but got his arms up enough that it looked like a fair catch signal?

Agreed on the officiating. This crew was worse than most regular season crews. For instance, how do you call a face mask penalty when you don't actually see the infraction, then need an official much further from the play to come and tell you there was no penalty? How does that flag even come out of your pocket?

You would think you could get better officials for a playoff game like this. I'd also like to say I had a good view of the passes to Mellette and Hudgins before Shreiner's missed kick and I think those were both catches. They both got at least a foot down and did have possesion of the ball. But alas, that was not the call and we all know what happened there. I feel for you Adam Shreiner. Hopefully this will help you become a better kicker down the road. Congrats to the Spiders. I repeat what's already been said about the Richmond fans being polite and kind and everything. Very classy bunch of fans. I'm also glad you guys are getting a new stadium next year. Nothing against U of R Stadium, but it is definitely a stadium that has seen its better days. I can't wait to see the new stadium in our rematch. (I also think if we still had Joshua Jones the game would've been a lil different, but that's another story.)

And may I say I am still very proud of this program and what it has accomplished. Coming into the year, no one thought we'd make the run because our defense wasn't good enough or because Lembo/Elon can't win the game, etc. etc. I think we proved everyone wrong this year. And to see how far Elon has come under Lembo in his 4 years here (and my 4 as a student) is just incredible. I am really excited for the future and would also like to thank all the seniors for everything they have done. Thank you and best of luck to you wherever you go from here. Also, great to hear Darrius is ok. I was seriously scared for him yesterday.

[PhoenixMan]

You would think you could get better officials for a playoff game like this. I'd also like to say I had a good view of the passes to Mellette and Hudgins before Shreiner's missed kick and I think those were both catches. They both got at least a foot down and did have possesion of the ball. But alas, that was not the call and we all know what happened there. I feel for you Adam Shreiner. Hopefully this will help you become a better kicker down the road. Congrats to the Spiders. I repeat what's already been said about the Richmond fans being polite and kind and everything. Very classy bunch of fans. I'm also glad you guys are getting a new stadium next year. Nothing against U of R Stadium, but it is definitely a stadium that has seen its better days. I can't wait to see the new stadium in our rematch. (I also think if we still had Joshua Jones the game would've been a lil different, but that's another story.)

And may I say I am still very proud of this program and what it has accomplished. Coming into the year, no one thought we'd make the run because our defense wasn't good enough or because Lembo/Elon can't win the game, etc. etc. I think we proved everyone wrong this year. And to see how far Elon has come under Lembo in his 4 years here (and my 4 as a student) is just incredible. I am really excited for the future and would also like to thank all the seniors for everything they have done. Thank you and best of luck to you wherever you go from here. Also, great to hear Darrius is ok. I was seriously scared for him yesterday.

Yes, the Richmond fans were great. I was very proud of our teams effort, the defense was relentless for both teams. As for not winning the big game....I'm still not sure that we have. Unless you consider the Samford game a big game, which in the scheme of things it was. Lost to App for a SoCon championship, lost the first playoff game. However, it was a Great season, we'll be back!

[Saint3333]

First, good season for Elon, you've come a long way in 4 years.

Elon may be down some next year. They will have to replace a good bit of their o-line (3 starters), some quality defensive guys, and of course the best player in Elon's history and one of the best WRs ever at the FCS level, Hudgins.

[PhoenixPhan]

You would think you could get better officials for a playoff game like this. I'd also like to say I had a good view of the passes to Mellette and Hudgins before Shreiner's missed kick and I think those were both catches. They both got at least a foot down and did have possesion of the ball. But alas, that was not the call and we all know what happened there. I feel for you Adam Shreiner. Hopefully this will help you become a better kicker down the road. Congrats to the Spiders. I repeat what's already been said about the Richmond fans being polite and kind and everything. Very classy bunch of fans. I'm also glad you guys are getting a new stadium next year. Nothing against U of R Stadium, but it is definitely a stadium that has seen its better days. I can't wait to see the new stadium in our rematch. (I also think if we still had Joshua Jones the game would've been a lil different, but that's another story.)

And may I say I am still very proud of this program and what it has accomplished. Coming into the year, no one thought we'd make the run because our defense wasn't good enough or because Lembo/Elon can't win the game, etc. etc. I think we proved everyone wrong this year. And to see how far Elon has come under Lembo in his 4 years here (and my 4 as a student) is just incredible. I am really excited for the future and would also like to thank all the seniors for everything they have done. Thank you and best of luck to you wherever you go from here. Also, great to hear Darrius is ok. I was seriously scared for him yesterday.

Agreed on everything. Did you happen to get a good look at Sheiners first missed FG (the short one)? There seemed to be a lot of confusion around that one--the team seemed to think it was good.

Officiating xthumbsdownx When will the FCS get the dignity of having challenges or at least a review system?

As for the stadium, SO glad you guys get a new one. Ive seen high school stadiums nicer than that one. Will you get a better scoreboard to? Elon's video board was sure missed on the seriious injuries and questionable calls.

Fun game to be at but still gotta say that UR needs to give the credit to the refs for winning it for them. Both teams missed some opportunities and the play-calling made the difference. Looking forward to playing UR again next year and making a better run in the playoffs.

[DTSpider]

I'd also like to say I had a good view of the passes to Mellette and Hudgins before Shreiner's missed kick and I think those were both catches. They both got at least a foot down and did have possesion of the ball.

I was sitting right there in the visitor side on the goal line. Both guys did catch the ball, but neither could get a foot in. The first catch was out by about 5 feet. The second was much closer, but still out by about a six inches. The UR defender did a good job of taking the guys out of bounds before they could get a foot down.

The refs were pretty much awful the whole game, but they did at least get those 2 calls right.

[MacThor]

Fun game to be at but still gotta say that UR needs to give the credit to the refs for winning it for them.

Um, no. UR can credit their defense for winning it for them.

Both of Elon's second half scoring drives were aided by very questionable calls on Seth Williams, btw.

[gophoenix]

Um, no. UR can credit their defense for winning it for them.

Both of Elon's second half scoring drives were aided by very questionable calls on Seth Williams, btw.

I mean, if you want to go that route, why not air all the bad reffing laundry? 2 blown TD calls for us? or were they? They were close for sure. The lack of holding calls on your offensive line in critical spots. The one where Harris stretched out and broke the plain of the goal line, but the ref called him down poorly before was a blown call. Then Elon proceded to fail to punch it in after that. But the plane was broken before he was down. But all that would have done was tied it up at the time. Our play calling for the next 3 plays sucked, which is why Hudgins was so pissed. He wanted to go for it, and honestly, I think they should have.

The refs sucked, but they weren't the difference maker. Both teams had their shots despite the refs. The highlights of the game should be both team's red zone defenses.

[gophoenix]

You would think you could get better officials for a playoff game like this. I'd also like to say I had a good view of the passes to Mellette and Hudgins before Shreiner's missed kick and I think those were both catches. They both got at least a foot down and did have possesion of the ball. But alas, that was not the call and we all know what happened there. I feel for you Adam Shreiner. Hopefully this will help you become a better kicker down the road. Congrats to the Spiders. I repeat what's already been said about the Richmond fans being polite and kind and everything. Very classy bunch of fans. I'm also glad you guys are getting a new stadium next year. Nothing against U of R Stadium, but it is definitely a stadium that has seen its better days. I can't wait to see the new stadium in our rematch. (I also think if we still had Joshua Jones the game would've been a lil different, but that's another story.)

And may I say I am still very proud of this program and what it has accomplished. Coming into the year, no one thought we'd make the run because our defense wasn't good enough or because Lembo/Elon can't win the game, etc. etc. I think we proved everyone wrong this year. And to see how far Elon has come under Lembo in his 4 years here (and my 4 as a student) is just incredible. I am really excited for the future and would also like to thank all the seniors for everything they have done. Thank you and best of luck to you wherever you go from here. Also, great to hear Darrius is ok. I was seriously scared for him yesterday.

The Mellete catch was out.

The Hudgins catch was out of my field of vision. But the first was definitely out.

[WVAPPmountaineer]

First, good season for Elon, you've come a long way in 4 years.

Elon may be down some next year. They will have to replace a good bit of their o-line (3 starters), some quality defensive guys, and of course the best player in Elon's history and one of the best WRs ever at the FCS level, Hudgins.

All you say is true - EXCEPT, Hudgins being the best player in Elon history ---- Richard McGeorge - TE - #1 draft choice of the Green Bay Packers ----

Also about the questionable calls, I didn't see the game, however the Elon beat writer for the Burlington Times News said that the OVC officials got both calls correct
----

[Elon Fightin' Christians]

The Mellete catch was out.

The Hudgins catch was out of my field of vision. But the first was definitely out.

This is from today's Burlington Times-news:

And on the next snap, Riddle’s third-down lob to Hudgins — in nearly the exact spot — was so microscopically close that photographers later were enlarging the image to determine where the Elon star’s left foot landed.

It was a jump-ball sequence that Hudgins so often mastered during his luminous Elon career. But his foot came down right on the chalked out-of-bounds line.

Sounds like it was really close...

and I'll throw out the "GREG BRADY" reference on the photogs.

[Eight Legger]

I mean, if you want to go that route, why not air all the bad reffing laundry? 2 blown TD calls for us? or were they? They were close for sure. The lack of holding calls on your offensive line in critical spots. The one where Harris stretched out and broke the plain of the goal line, but the ref called him down poorly before was a blown call. Then Elon proceded to fail to punch it in after that. But the plane was broken before he was down. But all that would have done was tied it up at the time. Our play calling for the next 3 plays sucked, which is why Hudgins was so pissed. He wanted to go for it, and honestly, I think they should have.

The refs sucked, but they weren't the difference maker. Both teams had their shots despite the refs. The highlights of the game should be both team's red zone defenses.

Richmond was called for 7 penalties totaling 67 yards. Elon was called for 4 penalties totaling 25 yards.

The worst call of the day was the pass interference call on Seth Williams while the Elon receiver jumped over his back on the drive preceding your touchdown. That was offensive interference, but instead was called against UR and continued your drive. I think you're really stretching if you are arguing the refs helped US in this game.

[Elon Fightin' Christians]

And may I say I am still very proud of this program and what it has accomplished. Coming into the year, no one thought we'd make the run because our defense wasn't good enough or because Lembo/Elon can't win the game, etc. etc. I think we proved everyone wrong this year. And to see how far Elon has come under Lembo in his 4 years here (and my 4 as a student) is just incredible. I am really excited for the future and would also like to thank all the seniors for everything they have done. Thank you and best of luck to you wherever you go from here. Also, great to hear Darrius is ok. I was seriously scared for him yesterday.

Absolutely. xthumbsupx not too bad for a "Baseball School". Since the football team finally got over the hump and made the playoffs, maybe this is the year our baseball gets over the hump and we get to Omaha !!!

[SpidersSportsEditor]

The Mellete catch was out.

The Hudgins catch was out of my field of vision. But the first was definitely out.

An Elon photographer and videographer both got the Hudgins catch on camera and he caught the ball with his foot on the line, which means he was out of bounds. It was very close, but it was without a doubt the right call.

[PhoenixPhan]

Any highlight videos? I'd appreciate links to these photos and videos of Hudgins' catch and would really like to see the first missed FG. Not to mention video of the 3 serious injuries that happened. To bad we were in the dark ages stadium and couldn't see any replays AT the game...

[MacThor]

I mean, if you want to go that route, why not air all the bad reffing laundry?

I didn't want to go that route. PhoenixPhan claimed the refs "won the game for [UR]." The officials were out of sorts all game, but they were right on top of the plays at the end. Not sure about his obsession with seeing video replays of injuries either.

The only ridiculously awful call was, fortunately, reversed. I still don't know how you throw a face mask flag if you didn't see a face mask infraction. The Elon fans were pretty upset when they picked up that flag, even though it was an obvious blown call to everyone in the stadium, from Riddle to a drunk sitting in the very top row.

[fightingphoenix]

I agree about the Spider fans! Very nice people and they have a great team. I would have really liked to see the Hudgins catch, the 27 yard missed FG and the fumble that was ruled dead-all replayed. But I'm not a ref. It kills me that we had a chance to win it and did not. We will be back next year!

[PhoenixPhan]

I was just referencing the fact that the entire stadium was in the dark about what the heck happened on the injuries. McQueen was flat on his back, and we weren't even given a name of a player until he was on his way to the ambulance.

[phoenix3]

I agree with the calls. I was close enough to see Mellette's foot about 2' ob and Hudgins' toe was right on the line. I was not in perfect position for the 27' fg but I was close & it looked good to me. I won't comment on any of the other calls with the exception of the pass interference calls which I thought were correct both ways. But, on to other things...

I felt like both fan bases were the classiest I have seen. That game, fan wise, was a model of the way it should be. Yelling, screaming, intense for their respective teams, but, respectful of their opponent. As I headed back to my car, still donning my Elon gear, I had numerous Richmond fans compliment our team, shake my hand, etc., etc. One guy said that while he was happy that Richmond came away with the win, it was a shame that Elon had to lose. Many Spiders' fans waved their hands in acknowledgement of a good show and appreciation. It was nothing like the loud mouthed App fans taunting Elon's fans with profanity and tastlessness as we exited the stadium. I'm a SoCon fan through and through, But the Richmond fans have made it very, very hard not to cheer for them next weekend. You certainly have won me over. I am anxiously awaiting our next game. Firstly, for an attempt at retribution and secondly, to see your new stadium.

I was also very impressed with the Elon fans turnout. I'm not sure what the final count was, but I'm sure Elon accounted for at least a third of the total. The overall turnout was impressive for two small, private academically based schools. Especially considering that it was Thanksgiving weekend.

While it will take me a few days to get over the loss and, slightly longer, the realization that our 12 very special seniors won't take the field again for our team, there were still many positives to take away.

[DX Man]

I agree with the calls. I was close enough to see Mellette's foot about 2' ob and Hudgins' toe was right on the line. I was not in perfect position for the 27' fg but I was close & it looked good to me. I won't comment on any of the other calls with the exception of the pass interference calls which I thought were correct both ways. But, on to other things...

I felt like both fan bases were the classiest I have seen. That game, fan wise, was a model of the way it should be. Yelling, screaming, intense for their respective teams, but, respectful of their opponent. As I headed back to my car, still donning my Elon gear, I had numerous Richmond fans compliment our team, shake my hand, etc., etc. One guy said that while he was happy that Richmond came away with the win, it was a shame that Elon had to lose. Many Spiders' fans waved their hands in acknowledgement of a good show and appreciation. It was nothing like the loud mouthed App fans taunting Elon's fans with profanity and tastlessness as we exited the stadium. I'm a SoCon fan through and through, But the Richmond fans have made it very, very hard not to cheer for them next weekend. You certainly have won me over. I am anxiously awaiting our next game. Firstly, for an attempt at retribution and secondly, to see your new stadium.

I was also very impressed with the Elon fans turnout. I'm not sure what the final count was, but I'm sure Elon accounted for at least a third of the total. The overall turnout was impressive for two small, private academically based schools. Especially considering that it was Thanksgiving weekend.

While it will take me a few days to get over the loss and, slightly longer, the realization that our 12 very special seniors won't take the field again for our team, there were still many positives to take away.


Shut up and take your dirty team and go home. DESTINY......LOLxlolx

[MacThor]

I may have been one of those fans - I complimented a bunch of Elon fans on the way out to the cars.

Oh, one last thing. Lembo going for it on fourth down on your own 26, down 7 in the third quarter. Ballsy. Loved it.

[DX Man]

Phoenix, your right about most ASU fans


Just how would you feel about them if they had taken your QB out with late hits two years in a row?


The above comments were only made to those elon fans who saw the need to bad mouth ASU as they were commenting on the elon loss.

[WVAPPmountaineer]

I agree with the calls. I was close enough to see Mellette's foot about 2' ob and Hudgins' toe was right on the line. I was not in perfect position for the 27' fg but I was close & it looked good to me. I won't comment on any of the other calls with the exception of the pass interference calls which I thought were correct both ways. But, on to other things...

I felt like both fan bases were the classiest I have seen. That game, fan wise, was a model of the way it should be. Yelling, screaming, intense for their respective teams, but, respectful of their opponent. As I headed back to my car, still donning my Elon gear, I had numerous Richmond fans compliment our team, shake my hand, etc., etc. One guy said that while he was happy that Richmond came away with the win, it was a shame that Elon had to lose. Many Spiders' fans waved their hands in acknowledgement of a good show and appreciation. It was nothing like the loud mouthed App fans taunting Elon's fans with profanity and tastlessness as we exited the stadium. I'm a SoCon fan through and through, But the Richmond fans have made it very, very hard not to cheer for them next weekend. You certainly have won me over. I am anxiously awaiting our next game. Firstly, for an attempt at retribution and secondly, to see your new stadium.

I was also very impressed with the Elon fans turnout. I'm not sure what the final count was, but I'm sure Elon accounted for at least a third of the total. The overall turnout was impressive for two small, private academically based schools. Especially considering that it was Thanksgiving weekend.

While it will take me a few days to get over the loss and, slightly longer, the realization that our 12 very special seniors won't take the field again for our team, there were still many positives to take away.

Elon ran their mouth all year - saying they were going to be the face of the SoCon from now on - this was their year - blah, blah, blah - Here's an idea - Win something BEFORE running your mouth - By the way I witnessed the entire APP group of fans lining the exit from the field, stand and give every Elon player a standing ovation as they left the field - Go home loser!!!!

[DX Man]

Elon ran their mouth all year - saying they were going to be the face of the SoCon from now on - this way their year - blah, blah, blah - Here's an idea - Win something BEFORE running your mouth - By the way I witnessed the entire APP group of fans lining the exit from the field, stand and give every Elon player a standing ovation as they left the field - Go home loser!!!!


Just in case your wondering why those terrible APP fans were doing this, it's because elon's own fans had abandoned them in the 3rd quarter.

[WVAPPmountaineer]

Just in case your wondering why those terrible APP fans were doing this, it's because elon's own fans had abandoned them in the 3rd quarter.

No truer words have ever been spoken!!!!

[phoenixphanatic21]

Elon ran their mouth all year - saying they were going to be the face of the SoCon from now on - this was their year - blah, blah, blah - Here's an idea - Win something BEFORE running your mouth - By the way I witnessed the entire APP group of fans lining the exit from the field, stand and give every Elon player a standing ovation as they left the field - Go home loser!!!!

By any chance were these the same group of App fans that basically verbally assaulted my friend who's an athletic trainer for the team?

For every good fan there's one who makes the fan base look bad as well. Just saying.

[gophoenix]

Just how would you feel about them if they had taken your QB out with late hits two years in a row?


The above comments were only made to those elon fans who saw the need to bad mouth ASU as they were commenting on the elon loss.

If only that's the way it really happened. But then again, if you're a whiner, I guess you have to say it over and over again to talk yourself into it.

[Saint3333]

By any chance were these the same group of App fans that basically verbally assaulted my friend who's an athletic trainer for the team?

For every good fan there's one who makes the fan base look bad as well. Just saying.

It's more like for every 50 fans. When you have 5 times the fans there are likely 5 times the "bad seeds". Is it right; no, but the majority of ASU fans are good people. Now as far as message boards go your ratio is likely true for every team.

[Reign of Terrier]

Wofford has very few "bad fans"

I'm probably one of the worst.


I'm not really kidding.

seriously.

[2xspyder]

The rivalry between Appy and Elon must be something, given all the trash talk on this message board. All I know, having been to both Boone and Burlington for Spider games in the last two years, is that we were treated pretty well in both places. Both sets of fans were strongly into their respective teams, which is as it should be. But neither set bothered us, which is also as it should be.
Elon has a great team, with great fans, and so does App St. Glad to have the Phoenix in town last Sat., and look forward to the Mountaineers this week.
Hope you enjoy spending a little time in one of America's most historic cities!

To App. fans: REMEMBER THAT PARKING IS LIMITED AT THE STADIUM.
You may have to park on the street in residential neighborhoods. They're safe, but you may want to get there before dark in order to orient yourselves to the area. The walk to the stadium is no further than the walk to your stadium for most of your fans, as I recall.

[phoenix3]

I may have been one of those fans - I complimented a bunch of Elon fans on the way out to the cars.

Oh, one last thing. Lembo going for it on fourth down on your own 26, down 7 in the third quarter. Ballsy. Loved it.

Thanks Mac. Best of luck next weekend.

[whoanellie]

The rivalry between Appy and Elon must be something, given all the trash talk on this message board. All I know, having been to both Boone and Burlington for Spider games in the last two years, is that we were treated pretty well in both places. Both sets of fans were strongly into their respective teams, which is as it should be. But neither set bothered us, which is also as it should be.
Elon has a great team, with great fans, and so does App St. Glad to have the Phoenix in town last Sat., and look forward to the Mountaineers this week.
Hope you enjoy spending a little time in one of America's most historic cities!

To App. fans: REMEMBER THAT PARKING IS LIMITED AT THE STADIUM.
You may have to park on the street in residential neighborhoods. They're safe, but you may want to get there before dark in order to orient yourselves to the area.

Oh no way is there a rivalry according to the folks that play their ball next to Tweetsie RR. Elon is not considered worthy as We were once both members of the long defunct Carolinas Conference circa 1971. The late sixties were a high growth time for the NC State College System. (Look up Great Society and baby boom impact). AppSt joined the Southern Conference and when VMI dropped down to the Big South in 2002. Elon applied to move up to the SoCon and the ONLY negative vote was from AppSt. App is the only school Elon has not defeated and they rant and rave on any board that We do not run an excellent football program. We are a threat to their in-bred inferiority complex. To make themselves appear superior there fanbase must tear down others efforts to build themselves up. They are a damn good football team and their coach is great. But they need to get their butt's whipped.
Can UofR do it? They will have play better than they did yesterday.

[gophoenix]

Richmond was called for 7 penalties totaling 67 yards. Elon was called for 4 penalties totaling 25 yards.

The worst call of the day was the pass interference call on Seth Williams while the Elon receiver jumped over his back on the drive preceding your touchdown. That was offensive interference, but instead was called against UR and continued your drive. I think you're really stretching if you are arguing the refs helped US in this game.

No no. Both teams had opportunities lined up. The refs really didn't matter. The teams offenses just failed on any number of occasions, probably due more to the defenses than anything. Neither team really laid down and let the bad reffing effect the game other than two missed FGs, but one was blocked, which is again good D.

[DX Man]

The rivalry between Appy and Elon must be something, given all the trash talk on this message board. All I know, having been to both Boone and Burlington for Spider games in the last two years, is that we were treated pretty well in both places. Both sets of fans were strongly into their respective teams, which is as it should be. But neither set bothered us, which is also as it should be.
Elon has a great team, with great fans, and so does App St. Glad to have the Phoenix in town last Sat., and look forward to the Mountaineers this week.
Hope you enjoy spending a little time in one of America's most historic cities!

To App. fans: REMEMBER THAT PARKING IS LIMITED AT THE STADIUM.
You may have to park on the street in residential neighborhoods. They're safe, but you may want to get there before dark in order to orient yourselves to the area. The walk to the stadium is no further than the walk to your stadium for most of your fans, as I recall.


FYI, there is NO rivalry! They are simply a dirty playing team who we have to tolerate because they got into the SoCon somehow.

[DX Man]

Oh no way is there a rivalry according to the folks that play their ball next to Tweetsie RR. Elon is not considered worthy as We were once both members of the long defunct Carolinas Conference circa 1971. The late sixties were a high growth time for the NC State College System. (Look up Great Society and baby boom impact). AppSt joined the Southern Conference and when VMI dropped down to the Big South in 2002. Elon applied to move up to the SoCon and the ONLY negative vote was from AppSt. App is the only school Elon has not defeated and they rant and rave on any board that We do not run an excellent football program. We are a threat to their in-bred inferiority complex. To make themselves appear superior there fanbase must tear down others efforts to build themselves up. They are a damn good football team and their coach is great. But they need to get their butt's whipped.
Can UofR do it? They will have play better than they did yesterday.



Shut up and take your dirty playing team and go home. elon choked! DESTINY......xlolx

[gophoenix]

FYI, there is NO rivalry! They are simply a dirty playing team who we have to tolerate because they got into the SoCon somehow.

xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolx
Dirty? You still realize no one else says we're dirty? None? No other team's fans? Only you small group of whiners?

Take you crybaby whining crap somewhere else. There was nothing dirty out of the last two years.

Appalachian State, breeding whiners since 2004.

[gophoenix]

FYI, there is NO rivalry! They are simply a dirty playing team who we have to tolerate because they got into the SoCon somehow.

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[Skjellyfetti]

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Add about 10 more emoticons and it will look EXACTLY like the Elon fans remaining at the end of our game on Nov. 14. xnodx

Oh, and the App-Elon "rivalry" only exists on AGS.

[ur2k]

I was just referencing the fact that the entire stadium was in the dark about what the heck happened on the injuries. McQueen was flat on his back, and we weren't even given a name of a player until he was on his way to the ambulance.

It was pretty obvious who the player was when our AD walked his dad (I assume) wearing a jersey with his # on to the field. I really don't get your point. Does Elon announce injuries on your video board? That would be very odd.

[gophoenix]

It was pretty obvious who the player was when our AD walked his dad (I assume) wearing a jersey with his # on to the field. I really don't get your point. Does Elon announce injuries on your video board? That would be very odd.

No, they don't. I think the way Richmond did it was the right way. They announced the kids name and he got a standing ovation by both crowds on the stretcher to the ambulance. It was completely the right way to do it.

[whoanellie]

http://www.thetimesnews.com/articles/elon-30042-richmond-football.html

[ElonPride]

Richmond was called for 7 penalties totaling 67 yards. Elon was called for 4 penalties totaling 25 yards.

The worst call of the day was the pass interference call on Seth Williams while the Elon receiver jumped over his back on the drive preceding your touchdown. That was offensive interference, but instead was called against UR and continued your drive. I think you're really stretching if you are arguing the refs helped US in this game.

NO! The worst call of the day was on the punt return with little time remaining!!!!!! How the heck can the refs blow an "errant" whistle? Sorry, the refs DID help you there!

[PhoenixMan]

NO! The worst call of the day was on the punt return with little time remaining!!!!!! How the heck can the refs blow an "errant" whistle? Sorry, the refs DID help you there!

It was a tough battle by both teams. The refs weren't stellar by any means. The one call that stands out to me was the flag thrown in the backfield when Riddle was sacked. It was either going to be unneccesary roughness or a facemask. The ref picked up the flag, no foul on the play. Then why in the he!! was it thrown to begin with?? Bottom line.......if you can't make a chip shot field goal to tie the game...and then miss again when you get a rare second chance...you don't deserve to win and move on in the playoffs

[MacThor]

It was a tough battle by both teams. The refs weren't stellar by any means. The one call that stands out to me was the flag thrown in the backfield when Riddle was sacked. It was either going to be unneccesary roughness or a facemask. The ref picked up the flag, no foul on the play. Then why in the he!! was it thrown to begin with?? Bottom line.......if you can't make a chip shot field goal to tie the game...and then miss again when you get a rare second chance...you don't deserve to win and move on in the playoffs

Exactly. It was going to be a facemask. The ref (who threw the flag) had to be told by the linesman that there was no facemask. Miles had his arms under Riddle's and around Riddle's torso! How does he throw the flag in the first place!?!

Nobody seems to know what happened on the punt, but Richmond's players pulled up when they heard multiple whistles. Lembo didn't think it was a big deal. For all our issues on long-snapping, our punt coverage this season has been outstanding. It really wasn't a difference maker.

[ElonPride]

Exactly. It was going to be a facemask. The ref (who threw the flag) had to be told by the linesman that there was no facemask. Miles had his arms under Riddle's and around Riddle's torso! How does he throw the flag in the first place!?!

Nobody seems to know what happened on the punt, but Richmond's players pulled up when they heard multiple whistles. Lembo didn't think it was a big deal. For all our issues on long-snapping, our punt coverage this season has been outstanding. It really wasn't a difference maker.

Don't get me wrong, this was a fun game!

[MacThor]

That video link from the Times News shows pretty clearly that Hudgins' foot landed on the line. And the official was right there.

But man, that was too close for comfort.

[gophoenix]

Exactly. It was going to be a facemask. The ref (who threw the flag) had to be told by the linesman that there was no facemask. Miles had his arms under Riddle's and around Riddle's torso! How does he throw the flag in the first place!?!

Nobody seems to know what happened on the punt, but Richmond's players pulled up when they heard multiple whistles. Lembo didn't think it was a big deal. For all our issues on long-snapping, our punt coverage this season has been outstanding. It really wasn't a difference maker.

OH, that call. I thought that was going to be something else.

I thought this was on the flag for holding that they called, and then picked up when Richmond had the ball earlier.

[elon77]

That video link from the Times News shows pretty clearly that Hudgins' foot landed on the line. And the official was right there.

But man, that was too close for comfort.

But, but , but, I was noticing before the game at that very spot the line was crooked, curved in towards the field and if it had been straight the catch would have been good. Now the story has been corrected.xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolx xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolx

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[SoCon48]

Oh no way is there a rivalry according to the folks that play their ball next to Tweetsie RR. Elon is not considered worthy as We were once both members of the long defunct Carolinas Conference circa 1971. The late sixties were a high growth time for the NC State College System. (Look up Great Society and baby boom impact). AppSt joined the Southern Conference and when VMI dropped down to the Big South in 2002. Elon applied to move up to the SoCon and the ONLY negative vote was from AppSt. App is the only school Elon has not defeated and they rant and rave on any board that We do not run an excellent football program. We are a threat to their in-bred inferiority complex. To make themselves appear superior there fanbase must tear down others efforts to build themselves up. They are a damn good football team and their coach is great. But they need to get their butt's whipped.
Can UofR do it? They will have play better than they did yesterday.

The only reason it is not a rivalry is that ASU already has way too many rivalries. WCU is our longest and most fierce. GSU has become a rival due to their being a NC contender for several years and the two teams battled for first place in the SoCon many times. Furman has been a rival for over 20 years.
Being a contender causes many programs to dream up rivalries.

[gophoenix]

The only reason it is not a rivalry is that ASU already has way too many rivalries. WCU is our longest and most fierce. GSU has become a rival due to their being a NC contender for several years and the two teams battled for first place in the SoCon many times. Furman has been a rival for over 20 years.
Being a contender causes many programs to dream up rivalries.

I think what's been said is, so many App fans spend so much time on Elon that it sure as heck seems like a rivalry to outsiders. I mean, just look at the proportion of App fans on AGS that spend time bashing or commenting on Elon.

Then take it to the next level where you get an even larger proportion of fans on the MMB who do s lot of Elon bashing. Whether it's posting a message that they talked about Elon's stadium being a high school stadium with SC State fans, or what.

The fact of the matter is, there is a large proportion of message board App fans who spend a disproportionate amount of time talking about Elon, you included, more so than they even talk about your "real" rivals.

Now, if it isn't a rivalry, I wonder just what it is. Sounds more like an obsession for some of the App people!

[elon77]

I think what's been said is, so many App fans spend so much time on Elon that it sure as heck seems like a rivalry to outsiders. I mean, just look at the proportion of App fans on AGS that spend time bashing or commenting on Elon.

Then take it to the next level where you get an even larger proportion of fans on the MMB who do s lot of Elon bashing. Whether it's posting a message that they talked about Elon's stadium being a high school stadium with SC State fans, or what.

The fact of the matter is, there is a large proportion of message board App fans who spend a disproportionate amount of time talking about Elon, you included, more so than they even talk about your "real" rivals.

Now, if it isn't a rivalry, I wonder just what it is. Sounds more like an obsession for some of the App people!


It's time for some religion, Amen to that.

[WVAPPmountaineer]

I think what's been said is, so many App fans spend so much time on Elon that it sure as heck seems like a rivalry to outsiders. I mean, just look at the proportion of App fans on AGS that spend time bashing or commenting on Elon.

Then take it to the next level where you get an even larger proportion of fans on the MMB who do s lot of Elon bashing. Whether it's posting a message that they talked about Elon's stadium being a high school stadium with SC State fans, or what.

The fact of the matter is, there is a large proportion of message board App fans who spend a disproportionate amount of time talking about Elon, you included, more so than they even talk about your "real" rivals.

Now, if it isn't a rivalry, I wonder just what it is. Sounds more like an obsession for some of the App people!

I think anyone looking somewhat objectively at this would recognize APP has nothing to prove to Elon so how could APP have an inferior complex like the other Elon fan mentions - Most all of the smack talk was started by Elon fans saying things like, this is our year, we will be the new face of the SoCon, and so on - of course, you say those things you are going to get smacked in return. Saw Jerry Tolley not long ago and again congratulated him on the back to back national championships in 80-81 but until this Elon group wins ANYTHING it might be best to remain silent ---- And by the way my experience tells me the APP fans take on the next big game on their schedule - Lord there was much more smack talk over the last couple of years from APP and JMU than the Elon/APP has ever had ----

[gophoenix]

I think anyone looking somewhat objectively at this would recognize APP has nothing to prove to Elon so how could APP have an inferior complex like the other Elon fan mentions - Most all of the smack talk was started by Elon fans saying things like, this is our year, we will be the new face of the SoCon, and so on - of course, you say those things you are going to get smacked in return. Saw Jerry Tolley not long ago and again congratulated him on the back to back national championships in 80-81 but until this Elon group wins ANYTHING it might be best to remain silent ---- And by the way my experience tells me the APP fans take on the next big game on their schedule - Lord there was much more smack talk over the last couple of years from APP and JMU than the Elon/APP has ever had ----

All right Mr Ex-Elon Player Turn App Fan know it all.

We aren't talking JMU. I don't care about JMU. We're talking Elon. The Elon that isn't worth App's time. The Elon that isn't worth playing. The Elon that has no fans. The Elon that plays in a high school stadium. The "dirty" playing Elon. The Elon that Mr. Appman went to to count stadium seats to prove a point. The Elon that isn't and never will be equal to App in anything. All according to App fans.

Yes, that Elon. So why, why are we posted about SOOOOO much by App. And posted about even in places where Elon fans don't even post or read much other than by SHEER obsession by some of you fans.

Maybe you need to take a history lesson and click on the search button of a few forums before vomiting out another post.

[MacThor]

OH, that call. I thought that was going to be something else.

I thought this was on the flag for holding that they called, and then picked up when Richmond had the ball earlier.

xconfusedx The only other flag they picked up, to my recollection, was the Pass Interference call on the tipped ball.

[gophoenix]

xconfusedx The only other flag they picked up, to my recollection, was the Pass Interference call on the tipped ball.

There were three. This pass interference call was the other.

[WVAPPmountaineer]

Since you're fairly new here, why not go sit in the corner and listen and read a bit before commenting much further. You're new here, and though, I know since you're older and you once played, you feel like you know everything. But, here's an idea, there's this little feature called "search" on this board, you could use it to actually research a little before opening that ex-Elon mouth of yours and inserting your own foot.

There is much more to this Elon/App history over the last 10 years than the posting on the message board this season.

The fact that you're an App fan, AGAIN, commenting on Elon just goes to prove the point, AGAIN.

Man you have a real problem with facts - I'm sorry you are so angry but don't blame it on the APP fans - FACT - Elon players, fans and supporters ran their mouths about this being their year - TRUE ---- FACT - Elon hasn't won anything since 1981 - TRUE
---- FACT - Elon didn't win the SoCon - TRUE ---- FACT - Elon didn't win it's playoff game - TRUE ---- FACT - APP kicked Elon's butt on their own field - TRUE ----

You were woefully weak and totally overwhelmed during our last debate on this board and the FACT is - you are wrong again !!!!

[gophoenix]

Man you have a real problem with facts - I'm sorry you are so angry but don't blame it on the APP fans - FACT - Elon players, fans and supporters ran their mouths about this being their year - TRUE ---- FACT - Elon hasn't won anything since 1981 - TRUE
---- FACT - Elon didn't win the SoCon - TRUE ---- FACT - Elon didn't win it's playoff game - TRUE ---- FACT - APP kicked Elon's butt on their own field - TRUE ----

You were woefully weak and totally overwhelmed during our last debate on this board and the FACT is - you are wrong again !!!!

What am I wrong about Mr. Ex- Elon Player App Fan? This isn't about football. This is about a 10 year App fan obsession with talking about Elon. FACT.

Again, do some searching before vomiting out another post.

Apparently they didn't teach reading or reading comprehension at Elon back when you were there.

My last argument with you had to do with YOU being a traitor to your school. FACT, you are! Whatever the reason may be Mr. Ex-Elon Player App Fan Man.

[Horseshoe App]

Case in point, another App fan commenting on Elon. Surprise.

Since you're fairly new here, why not go sit in the corner and listen and read a bit before commenting much further. You're new here, and though, I know since you're older and you once played, you feel like you know everything. But, here's an idea, there's this little feature called "search" on this board, you could use it to actually research a little before opening that ex-Elon mouth of yours and inserting your own foot. So, why not just try it Mr. KnowItAll ex-Elon player App fan Man. Press that little search link up there, type in Elon and look at the posts, rather than threads section. Then, count the number of App fan posts involving the word Elon. Then do it for Furman, and GSU.

There is much more to this Elon/App history over the last 10 years than the posting on the message board this season.

If you do that search for this year, you would be correct. However, over the last 10 year, GSU, Furman and WCU have all been much more of a rivalry to ASU than Elon. So, if it makes you fell better to think there is a great rivalry between us, go ahead. But your rivalry with us at the present time is very similar to ours with WCU. When we play you, we beat you. We just find it funny that some Elon fans like yourself do not know when to be quiet and have some humility. Most of your fans are very good, but like for most schools, a few do not know when to be quiet.
I cannot believe so many of your fans hate ASU. I was cheering for Elon because they come from the Southern Conference. Yes, we should have intense games when we play each other, but when playoffs start, we should support each other. The CAA does a wonderful job at this. We could learn a few things from this on that subject.
Anyway, go on suporting anyone who plays ASU and we will see you next year.
Have a great off seasonxpeacex

[elon77]

I think anyone looking somewhat objectively at this would recognize APP has nothing to prove to Elon so how could APP have an inferior complex like the other Elon fan mentions - Most all of the smack talk was started by Elon fans saying things like, this is our year, we will be the new face of the SoCon, and so on - of course, you say those things you are going to get smacked in return. Saw Jerry Tolley not long ago and again congratulated him on the back to back national championships in 80-81 but until this Elon group wins ANYTHING it might be best to remain silent ---- And by the way my experience tells me the APP fans take on the next big game on their schedule - Lord there was much more smack talk over the last couple of years from APP and JMU than the Elon/APP has ever had ----

If I could put my 2 cents in, we are kind of the new face IN the Socon.xtwocentsx

[gophoenix]

If you do that search for this year, you would be correct. However, over the last 10 year, GSU, Furman and WCU have all been much more of a rivalry to ASU than Elon. So, if it makes you fell better to think there is a great rivalry between us, go ahead. But your rivalry with us at the present time is very similar to ours with WCU. When we play you, we beat you. We just find it funny that some Elon fans like yourself do not know when to be quiet and have some humility. Most of your fans are very good, but like for most schools, a few do not know when to be quiet.
I cannot believe so many of your fans hate ASU. I was cheering for Elon because they come from the Southern Conference. Yes, we should have intense games when we play each other, but when playoffs start, we should support each other. The CAA does a wonderful job at this. We could learn a few things from this on that subject.
Anyway, go on suporting anyone who plays ASU and we will see you next year.
Have a great off seasonxpeacex

-sigh-

Do they teach reading at App? Do you guys even bother to read posts. This isn't about a rivalry. This is about an obsession by a subset of App fans to either constantly talk or constantly post about Elon. It is an obsession to some on the lines of Carolina fans hating Duke for specific reasons other than sports.

Again, if you bother to SEARCH, you will see it.

And because of that, and because App fans don't reign in their own fans, yes, you have those at our school who will never pull for App as a result.

I am now one of them.

[B&G]

It's not a rivalry until Elon beats App in this millenium.

[MacThor]

Hello. What thread is this?

[gophoenix]

And her come all the App fans to all say the same thing again.

It's not a rivalry. Elon hasn't one. Elon hasn't done squat. The same tired BS over and over.

Get some new material guys.

[gophoenix]

Hello. What thread is this?

It's an App thread of course. It might have mentioned Elon at one time, but, if it's about football it MUST be about App.

[appirishmen]

And her come all the App fans to all say the same thing again.

It's not a rivalry. Elon hasn't one. Elon hasn't done squat. The same tired BS over and over.

Get some new material guys.

ok. yall get some wins guys. hehe couldnt help myself. just kidding. Elon is a solid program.

[WVAPPmountaineer]

If I could put my 2 cents in, we are kind of the new face IN the Socon.xtwocentsx

That's true but I go all the way back to the Carolinas Conference probably before your time even - you and I have had some good discussions on topics however GoPhoenix can't make an argument without name-calling and anger - all schools have posters who their fans wish would forget how to type - GoPhoenix must be that type of all you knowledgeable Elon fans -

What was your take on how Richmond stacked up against other teams Elon has played this season? - APP, of course, hasn't played Richmond this year but I have been impressed with them the last 2 seasons and I hope I don't have to change my analysis a week from now but South Carolina State was the best team we played all year including ECU ----

[PhoenixMan]

That's true but I go all the way back to the Carolinas Conference probably before your time even - you and I have had some good discussions on topics however GoPhoenix can't make an argument without name-calling and anger - all schools have posters who their fans wish would forget how to type - GoPhoenix must be that type of all you knowledgeable Elon fans -

What was your take on how Richmond stacked up against other teams Elon has played this season? - APP, of course, hasn't played Richmond this year but I have been impressed with them the last 2 seasons and I hope I don't have to change my analysis a week from now but South Carolina State was the best team we played all year including ECU ----

Richmond's overall defense, IMO, was the best Elon has played this year. They didn't pressure Riddle quite as strong as App did, but the secondary and LB play was excellent. They stayed home and played out their assignments. Offensively, the Spider's biggest weapon against Elon was Ward taking off when the pocket broke down due to coverage. I was actually wanting him to have time to throw, because when he took off it was tough to catch him. He made good decisions, despite the picks he threw. Richmond vs. App- I have to give a slight edge to App, but I think it will be a one score game one way or the other.

[B&G]

True, getting back to the thread... has anyone seen a replay of the Hudgins catch on 3rd & 3 before the missed FG? Does it look like the call was correct? Was he out of bounds?

[PhoenixMan]

[QUOTE=B&G;1482707]True, getting back to the thread... has anyone seen a replay of the Hudgins catch on 3rd & 3 before the missed FG? Does it look like the call was correct? Was he out of bounds?[/QUO

He was in bounds. We got screwed. Really......I haven't seen a replay, but have heard from reliable sources today that said still photos show his foot "barely" touching the line. Truth be told.....at UR, with that officiating crew...he would have had to have both feet in to get that call. The refs screwed us a couple of times, but as I posted before.....if you can't make a 24 yd. field goal to tie the game, and then miss another one with 7 seconds on the clock to tie the game, pack your bags and go home. The official didn't miss that chip shot FG.

[Elon Fightin' Christians]

True, getting back to the thread... has anyone seen a replay of the Hudgins catch on 3rd & 3 before the missed FG? Does it look like the call was correct? Was he out of bounds?

Yes. The burlington times news story had a video that showed it. The reporter also said that they blew up photos of the play and both clearly showed that he came down jsut on the line. It was really close but he was out.

http://www.thetimesnews.com/articles/elon-30042-richmond-football.html

Watch the video. It is near the end.

[PhoenixPhan]

Richmond's overall defense, IMO, was the best Elon has played this year. They didn't pressure Riddle quite as strong as App did, but the secondary and LB play was excellent. They stayed home and played out their assignments. Offensively, the Spider's biggest weapon against Elon was Ward taking off when the pocket broke down due to coverage. I was actually wanting him to have time to throw, because when he took off it was tough to catch him. He made good decisions, despite the picks he threw. Richmond vs. App- I have to give a slight edge to App, but I think it will be a one score game one way or the other.

UR and App semm pretty equally matched to me. It will be interesting to see how the offenses stack up--I saw a lot of similarities between Edwards and Ward, especially on Ward's TD run. (Which, by the way, is an area that Elon's D really needs to work on. We cannot run past a QB and let him run that far for a TD. No excuse.) Richmond's O-line was strong, kept our defense from recording a single sack. if either team can establish themselves early on with a two score lead or so, I think the other will have a hard time mounting a comeback.

[MacThor]

He was in bounds. We got screwed. Really......I haven't seen a replay, but have heard from reliable sources today that said still photos show his foot "barely" touching the line.

So, if his foot was touching the line, how did you get screwed?

[MacThor]

He was in bounds. We got screwed. Really......I haven't seen a replay, but have heard from reliable sources today that said still photos show his foot "barely" touching the line.

Oh, please. How did you get screwed if he was touching the line? The line is OUT of bounds. Are your hometown photographer, reporter and videographer all screwing you too?

[PhoenixMan]

Oh, please. How did you get screwed if he was touching the line? The line is OUT of bounds. Are your hometown photographer, reporter and videographer all screwing you too?

you know Thor....of all the UR fans I have encountered in person and on AGS you are the only one that seems like a dimwit. Look at the rest of my quote. I went on to say that reliable sources said he was out. I don't question that. I do think a few calls went Richmond's way the were BS calls, not saying that was one of them. Again, you miss from 24 yds, go home, end of story.

[gophoenix]

True, getting back to the thread... has anyone seen a replay of the Hudgins catch on 3rd & 3 before the missed FG? Does it look like the call was correct? Was he out of bounds?

Richmond fans will say he was out, Elon fans will say he was in. And it is really one of those calls that would be 50/50 on any given day, given the light, given any number of conditions.

[gophoenix]

That's true but I go all the way back to the Carolinas Conference probably before your time even - you and I have had some good discussions on topics however GoPhoenix can't make an argument without name-calling and anger - all schools have posters who their fans wish would forget how to type - GoPhoenix must be that type of all you knowledgeable Elon fans -

What was your take on how Richmond stacked up against other teams Elon has played this season? - APP, of course, hasn't played Richmond this year but I have been impressed with them the last 2 seasons and I hope I don't have to change my analysis a week from now but South Carolina State was the best team we played all year including ECU ----

I find it incredibly interesting that you in the same breathe are ready to call me out for name calling, yet you, again, go to name calling and personal attacks. If you're going to be holier than thou, then be holier than thou. Otherwise pick and side and stay on it.

You aren't an Elon fan, yet you sit and comment on so many Elon thread like so many App fans.

You graduated from Elon, yet you sit and made snide comments about those who follow Elon now.

You went to Elon, yet you sit and have something to say about the current Elon students.

You are a member of this board and the App board talking App, yet you have never had anything good to post about Elon.

You are an ex-Elon player who has never had anything good to post about anyone playing at Elon.

And the fact that you have only been posting on boards for two seasons, have no idea about the history of posts between fans of certain schools for the prior 8 years.

You have no loyalty to Elon, you have never posted anything remotely loyal to Elon.

So no, don't sit here with this holier than thou attitude while talking out the sides of your mouth. The Elon and Richmond fans are talking, yet, just like on most every other Elon thread, it's hijacked by App fans. Just like you. You have no credibility. You're an App fan, not an Elon fan. You know nothing of Elon now and your posts show it. So, to sit and call me an unknowledgeable fan it just flat out laughable. You're pathetic.

And to think any of this is out of anger, are you kidding me, this is a football board.

[WVAPPmountaineer]

Richmond's overall defense, IMO, was the best Elon has played this year. They didn't pressure Riddle quite as strong as App did, but the secondary and LB play was excellent. They stayed home and played out their assignments. Offensively, the Spider's biggest weapon against Elon was Ward taking off when the pocket broke down due to coverage. I was actually wanting him to have time to throw, because when he took off it was tough to catch him. He made good decisions, despite the picks he threw. Richmond vs. App- I have to give a slight edge to App, but I think it will be a one score game one way or the other.

Thanks for actually having a conversation, unlike - already forget his name - Last year Richmond had 2 stud DE and they were without question the best defense we played last year - Yes, AE was hurt but that didn't take anything away from the Spiders - they seemed like they had 12 guys on the field all day - I was hoping they might not be as good this year :>)

I also agree with your assessment of Ward - 2 years ago he kept Richmond in the game with his scrambles once the pocket broke - when looking at their season stats I was expecting to see more rushing yards from him - He is not the passer Riddle is but he is very dangerous once the play breaks down - It is absolutely hard for me to believe Ward wasn't even on the Payton watch list - Same for Riddle but I guess Hudgins has a better chance without vote splitting between Hudgins and Riddle - Riddle will be there next year ---- Again, thanks for your thoughts ----

[WVAPPmountaineer]

UR and App semm pretty equally matched to me. It will be interesting to see how the offenses stack up--I saw a lot of similarities between Edwards and Ward, especially on Ward's TD run. (Which, by the way, is an area that Elon's D really needs to work on. We cannot run past a QB and let him run that far for a TD. No excuse.) Richmond's O-line was strong, kept our defense from recording a single sack. if either team can establish themselves early on with a two score lead or so, I think the other will have a hard time mounting a comeback.

Thanks for your input PhoenixPhan - I think through the course of the season Richmond has had a solid defense - APPs has just really come on as the season progresses - Richmond was the best defensive team we saw last year - SCSU this year (so far) - And in regards to Elon's D and the long run by Ward, there is not much a defense can do when an opposing QB has that ability - they could assign a spy to him but that limits pass coverage. This is why Armanti has been so good - many of his greatest plays have been when it looked like the play was over - APP has been burned a great deal over the last few years with running QBs - I remember URs offensive line last year - they looked like NFL guys - man I was hoping they all had graduated ---- Again, thanks for your civil and appreciated response ----

[WVAPPmountaineer]

From Whatshisname ----
You aren't an Elon fan, yet you sit and comment on so many Elon thread like so many App fans. I've seen and forgotten more Elon games than you will eve see

You graduated from Elon, yet you sit and made snide comments about those who follow Elon now. Only about the ones who were too cool to get there early and stay to the end - I called the only TRUE FANS

You went to Elon, yet you sit and have something to say about the current Elon students.
Gee I didn't realize only current Elon student had a viewpoint
You are a member of this board and the App board talking App, yet you have never had anything good to post about Elon.There you are again totally wrong - I have praised the accomplishments of the FIGHTIN CHRISTIANS and have pointed out to several APP fans that APP is not the only football team in NC to win back to back national championships

You are an ex-Elon player who has never had anything good to post about anyone playing at Elon. Not true - I said Hudgins is great and deserves his accolades but he is NOT RICHARD McGEORGE (for those who don't know, he was a #1 pick of the Green Bay Packers)

And the fact that you have only been posting on boards for two seasons, have no idea about the history of posts between fans of certain schools for the prior 8 years. you have to be kidding to make such a ridiculous statement

You have no loyalty to Elon, you have never posted anything remotely loyal to Elon. Wrong again

So no, don't sit here with this holier than thou attitude while talking out the sides of your mouth. The Elon and Richmond fans are talking, yet, just like on most every other Elon thread, it's hijacked by App fans. Just like you. You have no credibility. You're an App fan, not an Elon fan. You know nothing of Elon now and your posts show it. So, to sit and call me an unknowledgeable fan it just flat out laughable. You're pathetic. You are a real loser - you lose every argument because you don't know facts - you let your anger and hatred take over - GO HOME

And to think any of this is out of anger, are you kidding me, this is a football board.