Montana's schedule will hurt them

[Stonewall D]

Montana's weak schedule will hurt them in seeding. Montana has not played an FBS team this year. According to Sagarin, Montana's Strength of schedule (SOS) is 155.
In the Big Sky Conference, Montana had the lowest strength of schedule of any team.
Eastern Washington SOS 129
Weber State SOS 141
Montana State SOS 138
Northern Arizona SOS 121
Sacramento State SOS 139
Northern Colorado SOS 147
Portland State SOS 126
Idaho State SOS 115

It appears that Montana is scheduling easier competition, has an easier schedule and is using it to its advantage in league play.

Idaho State, a team it struggled to beat, has the the highest strength of schedule in the Big Sky, while Montana has the lowest.

Others likely in the playoffs:
South Dakota State 152,
Villanova 132,
Richmond 143,
William & Mary 134
Delaware (probably not) is 119
App State 165

Though App State has a SOS of 165, it played a much stronger out of conference competition than Montana. with a close loss to ECU, a member of Conference USA.

App State should be seeded higher than Montana. If Montana was in the Southern Conference, there is no way Montana goes undefeated.

[Houndawg]

Montana's weak schedule will hurt them in seeding. Montana has not played an FBS team this year. According to Sagarin, Montana's Strength of schedule (SOS) is 155.
In the Big Sky Conference, Montana had the lowest strength of schedule of any team.
Eastern Washington SOS 129
Weber State SOS 141
Montana State SOS 138
Northern Arizona SOS 121
Sacramento State SOS 139
Northern Colorado SOS 147
Portland State SOS 126
Idaho State SOS 115

It appears that Montana is scheduling easier competition, has an easier schedule and is using it to its advantage in league play.

Idaho State, a team it struggled to beat, has the the highest strength of schedule in the Big Sky, while Montana has the lowest.

Others likely in the playoffs:
South Dakota State 152,
Villanova 132,
Richmond 143,
William & Mary 134
Delaware (probably not) is 119
App State 165

Though App State has a SOS of 165, it played a much stronger out of conference competition than Montana. with a close loss to ECU, a member of Conference USA.

App State should be seeded higher than Montana. If Montana was in the Southern Conference, there is no way Montana goes undefeated.

You must be new, Montana's schedule never hurts them.

[tribe_pride]

Are you really from Richmond and what the hell do you have against Montana?

You have 6 posts and all 6 are insulting to Montana. You have even started up this thread to do that. Enough already. You are making Richmond fans look really bad. Enjoy the win from yesterday. You guys earned a seed.

Edit: Thought you were a Richmond guy based on your original post now may be ASU fan. Either way, you are doing your team a major disservice.

[Poker Alan]

Montana's weak schedule will hurt them in seeding. Montana has not played an FBS team this year. According to Sagarin, Montana's Strength of schedule (SOS) is 155.
In the Big Sky Conference, Montana had the lowest strength of schedule of any team.
Eastern Washington SOS 129
Weber State SOS 141
Montana State SOS 138
Northern Arizona SOS 121
Sacramento State SOS 139
Northern Colorado SOS 147
Portland State SOS 126
Idaho State SOS 115

It appears that Montana is scheduling easier competition, has an easier schedule and is using it to its advantage in league play.

Idaho State, a team it struggled to beat, has the the highest strength of schedule in the Big Sky, while Montana has the lowest.

Others likely in the playoffs:
South Dakota State 152,
Villanova 132,
Richmond 143,
William & Mary 134
Delaware (probably not) is 119
App State 165

Though App State has a SOS of 165, it played a much stronger out of conference competition than Montana. with a close loss to ECU, a member of Conference USA.

App State should be seeded higher than Montana. If Montana was in the Southern Conference, there is no way Montana goes undefeated.

So, according to Sagarin, Montana's schedule is the weakest in the BSC, and will hurt them, yet you make the comparison to ASU's SOS, with that ridiculous argument that ASU should have a seed? Maybe you should have beat McNeese St, then you would have a seed. You shouldn't contradict yourself in your argument, by what you posted here, it clearly shows that Montana was MUCH MORE challenged in their conference schedule, than ASU was in theirs. Otherwise, how did the ASU SOS come out lower than the Griz? Seriously, this was the best you had?

[GrizFanStuckInUtah]

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[mlbowl]

Montana's weak schedule will hurt them in seeding. Montana has not played an FBS team this year. According to Sagarin, Montana's Strength of schedule (SOS) is 155.
In the Big Sky Conference, Montana had the lowest strength of schedule of any team.
Eastern Washington SOS 129
Weber State SOS 141
Montana State SOS 138
Northern Arizona SOS 121
Sacramento State SOS 139
Northern Colorado SOS 147
Portland State SOS 126
Idaho State SOS 115

It appears that Montana is scheduling easier competition, has an easier schedule and is using it to its advantage in league play.

Idaho State, a team it struggled to beat, has the the highest strength of schedule in the Big Sky, while Montana has the lowest.

Others likely in the playoffs:
South Dakota State 152,
Villanova 132,
Richmond 143,
William & Mary 134
Delaware (probably not) is 119
App State 165

Though App State has a SOS of 165, it played a much stronger out of conference competition than Montana. with a close loss to ECU, a member of Conference USA.

App State should be seeded higher than Montana. If Montana was in the Southern Conference, there is no way Montana goes undefeated.

Your SoS argument might have helped ASU if they hadn't LOST 2 games!...sleep tightxthumbsupx

[Ronbo]

Montana's weak schedule will hurt them in seeding. Montana has not played an FBS team this year. According to Sagarin, Montana's Strength of schedule (SOS) is 155.
In the Big Sky Conference, Montana had the lowest strength of schedule of any team.
Eastern Washington SOS 129
Weber State SOS 141
Montana State SOS 138
Northern Arizona SOS 121
Sacramento State SOS 139
Northern Colorado SOS 147
Portland State SOS 126
Idaho State SOS 115

It appears that Montana is scheduling easier competition, has an easier schedule and is using it to its advantage in league play.

Idaho State, a team it struggled to beat, has the the highest strength of schedule in the Big Sky, while Montana has the lowest.

Others likely in the playoffs:
South Dakota State 152,
Villanova 132,
Richmond 143,
William & Mary 134
Delaware (probably not) is 119
App State 165

Though App State has a SOS of 165, it played a much stronger out of conference competition than Montana. with a close loss to ECU, a member of Conference USA.

App State should be seeded higher than Montana. If Montana was in the Southern Conference, there is no way Montana goes undefeated.

Those SOS rankings mean little as they are based on how many FBS schools you play. The more times you get thumped by an FBS the better your SOS gets. It's funny really.

Montana went undefeated in the 2nd ranked Conference according to GPI and that's a better measure. It makes me sick that Montana goes 43-2 since 2006 in the regular season and still gets disrespected on this board and by the seeding committee. We are not the Pioneer League folks but to most of you it seems you think it is. Montana wins too much, let's rank them low and seed them low so they get sent on the road. Cheaters!

[Houndawg]

Those SOS rankings mean little as they are based on how many FBS schools you play. The more times you get thumped by an FBS the better your SOS gets. It's funny really.

Montana went undefeated in the 2nd ranked Conference according to GPI and that's a better measure. It makes me sick that Montana goes 43-2 since 2006 in the regular season and still gets disrespected on this board and by the seeding committee. We are not the Pioneer League folks but to most of you it seems you think it is. Montana wins too much, let's rank them low and seed them low so they get sent on the road. Cheaters!


xconfusedx Montana gets sent on the road? Are you sure?

[Gonzo]

Looks like someone has a little Griz envy

[Ronbo]

We went 11-0 in 2007 and got a #3 seed.

We went 10-1 last season with the only loss to Weber State in Ogden and get a #4 seed.

Cheaters!

[griz8791]

xconfusedx Montana gets sent on the road? Are you sure?

I think he means right now, referring to the rankings in the last couple of weeks.

[srgrizizen]

Maybe Montana's SOS is the lowest in the league because they don't have to play themselves? What a moronic post.

[paul1978]

I did a search on this with no luck so please Griz fans help me out if I am wrong. Montana will be traveling to Boone in either 2011 or 2013 and ASU will be heading for Missoula 2012 or 2014. I look forward to these games where actions will speak a LOT louder than words.
Griz nation baby, coast to coast!

xthumbsupxxthumbsupxxthumbsupxxthumbsupxxthumbsupx

[Rekdiver]

The only way ASU gets a seed is ifthe committee doesnt give the CAA 2 seeds and wants ASU because of attendance. Montana, Richmond Villanova and the Illinois team should be the top 4

[nevadagriz]

If you win don't you hurt your own SOS? Idaho st should have a higher sos they lost every game except one. This thread is funny!

[putter]

The ONLY reason Idaho St SOS was better was they opened up with Arizona St and Oklahoma...and FCS teams are not required to play an FBS game. You don't get extra credit for playing them but you do if you win which will help the CAA. It will not hurt Montana because the played 1 sub D1 team. In OOC they played D2 Western St, Cal Poly and Great West Champ UC Davis...not a bad schedule

[Silenoz]

We went 11-0 in 2007 and got a #3 seed.

We went 10-1 last season with the only loss to Weber State in Ogden and get a #4 seed.

Cheaters!

We were actually 11-1, the only team with that mark

[JALMOND]

Montana's weak schedule will hurt them in seeding. Montana has not played an FBS team this year. According to Sagarin, Montana's Strength of schedule (SOS) is 155.
In the Big Sky Conference, Montana had the lowest strength of schedule of any team.
Eastern Washington SOS 129
Weber State SOS 141
Montana State SOS 138
Northern Arizona SOS 121
Sacramento State SOS 139
Northern Colorado SOS 147
Portland State SOS 126
Idaho State SOS 115

It appears that Montana is scheduling easier competition, has an easier schedule and is using it to its advantage in league play.

Idaho State, a team it struggled to beat, has the the highest strength of schedule in the Big Sky, while Montana has the lowest.

Others likely in the playoffs:
South Dakota State 152,
Villanova 132,
Richmond 143,
William & Mary 134
Delaware (probably not) is 119
App State 165

Though App State has a SOS of 165, it played a much stronger out of conference competition than Montana. with a close loss to ECU, a member of Conference USA.

App State should be seeded higher than Montana. If Montana was in the Southern Conference, there is no way Montana goes undefeated.

You did a good job coming up with these facts on strength of schedule to show Montana vs Appalachian State. Yet at the end you do not rely on these facts as the basis for two strong opinions that you state (and possibly were trying to prove). Without the support of the facts, your opinions are mere hogwash.

Geez, didn't they teach you anything in college?

Using your facts, Montana has a better SOS than Appalachian State. Therefore Montana should get the higher seed. Your argument could be twisted around and, based on your facts, it could be rationally argued that Appalachian State would not go undefeated in conference play if they were in the Big Sky this year.

[jlcharles]

We went 11-0 in 2007 and got a #3 seed.

We went 10-1 last season with the only loss to Weber State in Ogden and get a #4 seed.

Cheaters!

UNI and McNeese also went undefeated in 2007 with all D-1 wins I believe. Montana played a D-2.

There's no reason for last years seeding.

[Poker Alan]

You did a good job coming up with these facts on strength of schedule to show Montana vs Appalachian State. Yet at the end you do not rely on these facts as the basis for two strong opinions that you state (and possibly were trying to prove). Without the support of the facts, your opinions are mere hogwash.

Geez, didn't they teach you anything in college?

Using your facts, Montana has a better SOS than Appalachian State. Therefore Montana should get the higher seed. Your argument could be twisted around and, based on your facts, it could be rationally argued that Appalachian State would not go undefeated in conference play if they were in the Big Sky this year.

Thank you for saying this much better than I did, in my initial response.

[Grrrrriz]

UNI and McNeese also went undefeated in 2007 with all D-1 wins I believe. Montana played a D-2.

There's no reason for last years seeding.

Also, the other thing about 2007 is that we just weren't that good. We went 11-0 by the absolute skin of our teeth.....and then we saw what happened in the playoffs. We probably deserved a higher seed last year, but it ended up turning out okay.

[Grizo406]

Despite our schedule, I think we did pretty good...as far as seeding goes!xlolxxlolxxlolx

[uofmman1122]

Apparently the committee disagreed. xlolx xsmiley_wix

[Green26]

Where's the joker who started this thread? It's amazing how many people talk about things they have no clue about.

[09griz]

Montana's weak schedule will hurt them in seeding. Montana has not played an FBS team this year. According to Sagarin, Montana's Strength of schedule (SOS) is 155.
In the Big Sky Conference, Montana had the lowest strength of schedule of any team.
Eastern Washington SOS 129
Weber State SOS 141
Montana State SOS 138
Northern Arizona SOS 121
Sacramento State SOS 139
Northern Colorado SOS 147
Portland State SOS 126
Idaho State SOS 115

It appears that Montana is scheduling easier competition, has an easier schedule and is using it to its advantage in league play.

Idaho State, a team it struggled to beat, has the the highest strength of schedule in the Big Sky, while Montana has the lowest.

Others likely in the playoffs:
South Dakota State 152,
Villanova 132,
Richmond 143,
William & Mary 134
Delaware (probably not) is 119
App State 165

Though App State has a SOS of 165, it played a much stronger out of conference competition than Montana. with a close loss to ECU, a member of Conference USA.

App State should be seeded higher than Montana. If Montana was in the Southern Conference, there is no way Montana goes undefeated.

Stop talking **** all your life.