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Caldwell County APP
November 17th, 2009, 10:12 AM
I did this last year and I have decided to bring it back. What do you guys think about matchups, winners, or anything else? Are the brackets fair? Which one is the toughest, or easiest?

East
1- Villanova vs. 16- North Dakota
2- New Hampshire vs. 15- Gardner Webb
3- SC State vs. 14- Monmouth
4- Holy Cross vs. 13- Bethune Cookman
5- Weber State vs.12- Norfolk St.
6- Prairie View vs. 11- UMASS
7- Montana State vs. 10- Wagner
8- Stony Brook vs. 9- Chattanooga

West
1- Montana vs. 16- South Dakota
2- Richmond vs.15- Georgia Southern
3- McNeese State vs. 14- Hampton
4- Eastern Illinois vs. 13 Illinois State
5- Lafayette vs. 12- Jacksonville
6- Colgate vs. 11- Samford
7- Texas State vs. 10- UC Davis
8- Dayton vs. 9- Maine

Midwest
1- So. Illinois vs. 16- North Carolina A&T
2- Elon vs. 15 Hofstra
3- SD State vs. 14- Youngstown State
4- Liberty vs. 13- Charleston Southern
5- Jacksonville State vs. Tenn. Tech
6- Delaware vs. 11- Sam Houston St.
7- SE Louisiana vs. 10 Northern Arizona
8- Old Dominion vs. 9- Albany

South
1. Appalachian State vs. 16 Austin Peay
2. William and Mary vs. 15 Morgan St.
3. Northern Iowa vs. 14 Coastal Carolina
4. Stephen F Austin vs. 13 Missouri State
5. E. Washington vs. 12 E. Kentucky
6. Florida A&M vs. 11 Marist
7. Butler vs.10 Furman
8. Drake vs. 9 James Madison

813Jag
November 17th, 2009, 10:21 AM
could you push this hypothetical tourney back a week so an 8-3 Southern could be in? xlolx

but seriously that looks interesting.

appmaj
November 17th, 2009, 10:37 AM
My Bracket (Round 1)


East
1- Villanova vs. 16- North Dakota
2- New Hampshire vs. 15- Gardner Webb
3- SC State vs. 14- Monmouth
4- Holy Cross vs. 13- Bethune Cookman
5- Weber State vs.12- Norfolk St.
6- Prairie View vs. 11- UMASS
7- Montana State vs. 10- Wagner
8- Stony Brook vs. 9- Chattanooga

West
1- Montana vs. 16- South Dakota
2- Richmond vs.15- Georgia Southern
3- McNeese State vs. 14- Hampton
4- Eastern Illinois vs. 13 Illinois State
5- Lafayette vs. 12- Jacksonville
6- Colgate vs. 11- Samford
7- Texas State vs. 10- UC Davis
8- Dayton vs. 9- Maine

Midwest
1- So. Illinois vs. 16- North Carolina A&T
2- Elon vs. 15 Hofstra
3- SD State vs. 14- Youngstown State
4- Liberty vs. 13- Charleston Southern
5- Jacksonville State vs. Tenn. Tech
6- Delaware vs. 11- Sam Houston St.
7- SE Louisiana vs. 10 Northern Arizona
8- Old Dominion vs. 9- Albany

South
1. Appalachian State vs. 16 Austin Peay
2. William and Mary vs. 15 Morgan St.
3. Northern Iowa vs. 14 Coastal Carolina
4. Stephen F Austin vs. 13 Missouri State
5. E. Washington vs. 12 E. Kentucky
6. Florida A&M vs. 11 Marist
7. Butler vs.10 Furman
8. Drake vs. 9 James Madison

89Hen
November 17th, 2009, 10:38 AM
I did this last year and I have decided to bring it back. What do you guys think?
I think, why did you bring it back? xeyebrowx

UNHWildCats
November 17th, 2009, 10:42 AM
Richmond gets sent west as a #2 seed? I dont think so... they would be South #1 seed over Appy.,

Caldwell County APP
November 17th, 2009, 10:43 AM
I think, why did you bring it back? xeyebrowx

I fixed it. That was kind of a dumb question.

89Hen
November 17th, 2009, 10:44 AM
I fixed it. That was kind of a dumb question.
Ahhh, now I like the idea a lot better. xthumbsupx

Caldwell County APP
November 17th, 2009, 10:45 AM
Richmond gets sent west as a #2 seed? I dont think so... they would be South #1 seed over Appy.,

I took the four conference champs as number 1 seeds. Richmond would be the overall 5 seed and would be in the bracket with the weakest number 1 seed.

UNHWildCats
November 17th, 2009, 10:51 AM
I took the four conference champs as number 1 seeds. Richmond would be the overall 5 seed and would be in the bracket with the weakest number 1 seed.
well it doesnt work that way... Conference champion doesnt guarantee u a #1 seed, and not being champion doesnt exclude you from being the #1 seed. Its the best 4 teams, and Richmond gets a nod over Appalachian State.

And evidence that that happens is this. In the 2009 Mens tourney, three of the four seeds were Big East schools incuding 2 at-large teams.

In 2006 2 Big East teams were #1 seeds, neither were the conference Champ, Syracuse took a #5 seed in the South that season.

nmatsen
November 17th, 2009, 10:56 AM
My Bracket (Round 1)


East
1- Villanova vs. 16- North Dakota
2- New Hampshire vs. 15- Gardner Webb
3- SC State vs. 14- Monmouth
4- Holy Cross vs. 13- Bethune Cookman
5- Weber State vs.12- Norfolk St.
6- Prairie View vs. 11- UMASS
7- Montana State vs. 10- Wagner
8- Stony Brook vs. 9- Chattanooga

West
1- Montana vs. 16- South Dakota
2- Richmond vs.15- Georgia Southern
3- McNeese State vs. 14- Hampton
4- Eastern Illinois vs. 13 Illinois State
5- Lafayette vs. 12- Jacksonville
6- Colgate vs. 11- Samford
7- Texas State vs. 10- UC Davis
8- Dayton vs. 9- Maine

Midwest
1- So. Illinois vs. 16- North Carolina A&T
2- Elon vs. 15 Hofstra
3- SD State vs. 14- Youngstown State
4- Liberty vs. 13- Charleston Southern
5- Jacksonville State vs. Tenn. Tech
6- Delaware vs. 11- Sam Houston St.
7- SE Louisiana vs. 10 Northern Arizona
8- Old Dominion vs. 9- Albany

South
1. Appalachian State vs. 16 Austin Peay
2. William and Mary vs. 15 Morgan St.
3. Northern Iowa vs. 14 Coastal Carolina
4. Stephen F Austin vs. 13 Missouri State
5. E. Washington vs. 12 E. Kentucky
6. Florida A&M vs. 11 Marist
7. Butler vs.10 Furman
8. Drake vs. 9 James Madison

Drake beating JMU?xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolx

darell1976
November 17th, 2009, 10:57 AM
We would easily win our region..oh wait this isn't hockey.xlolx

Caldwell County APP
November 17th, 2009, 10:57 AM
well it doesnt work that way... Conference champion doesnt guarantee u a #1 seed, and not being champion doesnt exclude you from being the #1 seed. Its the best 4 teams, and Richmond gets a nod over Appalachian State.

And evidence that that happens is this. In the 2009 Mens tourney, three of the four seeds were Big East schools incuding 2 at-large teams.

In 2006 2 Big East teams were #1 seeds, neither were the conference Champ, Syracuse took a #5 seed in the South that season.

There are 4 big conferences in FCS football. I took their champions in this FICTIONAL tournament. I am sorry you feel that Richmond is better than ASU. I guess we will see soon enough.

UNHWildCats
November 17th, 2009, 11:03 AM
There are 4 big conferences in FCS football. I took their champions in this FICTIONAL tournament. I am sorry you feel that Richmond is better than ASU. I guess we will see soon enough.
seeds arent handed out based on who you think is better. Its based on who the best four teams were in the regular season, Richmond was better then Appalachian State... who the hell cares if Appy wins a damn conference championship. If Central Connecticut State wins the NEC championship, does that mean they are better then Elon?

And for what its worth, Richmond is co-champion, the only difference is they dont get the autobid, so you may want to clarify your wording in your argument.

UNHWildCats
November 17th, 2009, 11:06 AM
And now the GPI says the CAA would have 3 of the seeds :)

Caldwell County APP
November 17th, 2009, 11:07 AM
seeds arent handed out based on who you think is better. Its based on who the best four teams were in the regular season, Richmond was better then Appalachian State... who the hell cares if Appy wins a damn conference championship. If Central Connecticut State wins the NEC championship, does that mean they are better then Elon?

And for what its worth, Richmond is co-champion, the only difference is they dont get the autobid, so you may want to clarify your wording in your argument.

OK Look. This is not REAL!!!!!! I made this up. This has no bearing who gets seeds in the real thing.............Geez man!!!!xdeadhorsex

UNHWildCats
November 17th, 2009, 11:25 AM
OK Look. This is not REAL!!!!!! I made this up. This has no bearing who gets seeds in the real thing.............Geez man!!!!xdeadhorsex
you post stuff, you will get feedback... Can't handle the discussion your topic will generate, then dont post it.

Caldwell County APP
November 17th, 2009, 11:28 AM
you post stuff, you will get feedback... Can't handle the discussion your topic will generate, then dont post it.

I can handle discussion, but you seem to act like what I was doing was real.........I invite discusssion, but this is NOT REAL.......

appmaj
November 17th, 2009, 11:30 AM
Drake beating JMU?xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolx

Heck yeah...8 v 9 matchups one 8 has to win xcoffeex

Skjellyfetti
November 17th, 2009, 11:30 AM
seeds arent handed out based on who you think is better. Its based on who the best four teams were in the regular season


And now the GPI says the CAA would have 3 of the seeds :)

Seeds also aren't handed out 1-4 of the GPI.

UNI (#8 in final GPI) got a seed over Nova (#4 in final GPI last year). Nova also had a better resume, imo. xcoffeex

AppIAA
November 17th, 2009, 11:48 AM
seeds arent handed out based on who you think is better.

Actually, it is.. since he is the only on in the "selection committee" it is based on who he thinks is better...

It is fictional -- not that big of a deal...

JMUNJ08
November 17th, 2009, 12:01 PM
JMU would be the under achieving power conference foe who gets an invite and scares the #1 in the 2nd round before letting it go....

jstclmet
November 17th, 2009, 12:02 PM
I did this last year and I have decided to bring it back. What do you guys think about matchups, winners, or anything else? Are the brackets fair? Which one is the toughest, or easiest?

East
1- Villanova vs. 16- North Dakota
2- New Hampshire vs. 15- Gardner Webb
3- SC State vs. 14- Monmouth
4- Holy Cross vs. 13- Bethune Cookman
5- Weber State vs.12- Norfolk St.
6- Prairie View vs. 11- UMASS
7- Montana State vs. 10- Wagner
8- Stony Brook vs. 9- Chattanooga

West
1- Montana vs. 16- South Dakota
2- Richmond vs.15- Georgia Southern
3- McNeese State vs. 14- Hampton
4- Eastern Illinois vs. 13 Illinois State
5- Lafayette vs. 12- Jacksonville
6- Colgate vs. 11- Samford
7- Texas State vs. 10- UC Davis
8- Dayton vs. 9- Maine

Midwest
1- So. Illinois vs. 16- North Carolina A&T
2- Elon vs. 15 Hofstra
3- SD State vs. 14- Youngstown State
4- Liberty vs. 13- Charleston Southern
5- Jacksonville State vs. Tenn. Tech
6- Delaware vs. 11- Sam Houston St.
7- SE Louisiana vs. 10 Northern Arizona
8- Old Dominion vs. 9- Albany

South
1. Appalachian State vs. 16 Austin Peay
2. William and Mary vs. 15 Morgan St.
3. Northern Iowa vs. 14 Coastal Carolina
4. Stephen F Austin vs. 13 Missouri State
5. E. Washington vs. 12 E. Kentucky
6. Florida A&M vs. 11 Marist
7. Butler vs.10 Furman
8. Drake vs. 9 James Madison

Nice job overall, but a little early to include ODU even in this discussion. There's probably a PFL, NEC, or Big South team being neglected somewhere.xthumbsupx

JMUNJ08
November 17th, 2009, 12:04 PM
you post stuff, you will get feedback... Can't handle the discussion your topic will generate, then dont post it.

Everyone else is having fun. Why be the Debbie downer????xeyebrowx

jmufan999
November 17th, 2009, 12:04 PM
Drake beating JMU?xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolx

yeah that was pretty funny. :)

JMUNJ08
November 17th, 2009, 12:06 PM
5- Lafayette vs. 12- Jacksonville

12 over 5 special? you know it happens every year....

Caldwell County APP
November 17th, 2009, 12:29 PM
Nice job overall, but a little early to include ODU even in this discussion. There's probably a PFL, NEC, or Big South team being neglected somewhere.xthumbsupx

Most of the teams with 5 wins or more got in. ODU was probably a little high but they have won 8 games.........

Silenoz
November 17th, 2009, 12:33 PM
East and South regions would be pretty brutal

Caldwell County APP
November 17th, 2009, 12:38 PM
East and South regions would be pretty brutal

Yeah I thought the Midwest was probably the easiest with the South being the thoughest...........

soccerguy315
November 17th, 2009, 12:55 PM
cool idea...

thanks for taking the time to put it together. I agree midwest would be the weakest bracket.

Eight Legger
November 17th, 2009, 01:00 PM
Only 64 teams??

xnonono2x

jstclmet
November 17th, 2009, 01:04 PM
I did this last year and I have decided to bring it back. What do you guys think about matchups, winners, or anything else? Are the brackets fair? Which one is the toughest, or easiest?

East
1- Villanova vs. 16- North Dakota
2- New Hampshire vs. 15- Gardner Webb
3- SC State vs. 14- Monmouth
4- Holy Cross vs. 13- Bethune Cookman
5- Weber State vs.12- Norfolk St.
6- Prairie View vs. 11- UMASS
7- Montana State vs. 10- Wagner
8- Stony Brook vs. 9- Chattanooga

West
1- Montana vs. 16- South Dakota
2- Richmond vs.15- Georgia Southern
3- McNeese State vs. 14- Hampton
4- Eastern Illinois vs. 13 Illinois State
5- Lafayette vs. 12- Jacksonville
6- Colgate vs. 11- Samford
7- Texas State vs. 10- UC Davis
8- Dayton vs. 9- Maine

Midwest
1- So. Illinois vs. 16- North Carolina A&T
2- Elon vs. 15 Hofstra
3- SD State vs. 14- Youngstown State
4- Liberty vs. 13- Charleston Southern
5- Jacksonville State vs. Tenn. Tech
6- Delaware vs. 11- Sam Houston St.
7- SE Louisiana vs. 10 Northern Arizona
8- Old Dominion vs. 9- Albany

South
1. Appalachian State vs. 16 Austin Peay
2. William and Mary vs. 15 Morgan St.
3. Northern Iowa vs. 14 Coastal Carolina
4. Stephen F Austin vs. 13 Missouri State
5. E. Washington vs. 12 E. Kentucky
6. Florida A&M vs. 11 Marist
7. Butler vs.10 Furman
8. Drake vs. 9 James Madison

ok, I'll bite.

In the East Qtrs;
1 Nova vs 8 Stony Brook
4 HC vs #5 Weber St.
3 SC ST. vs #6 Prarie View
2 UNH vs #7 Montana St.

Semi's;
1 Nova vs #5 Weber St.
2 UNH vs. #3 SC St..

Finals;
1 Nova defeats #2 UNH

West Qtrs;
1. Montana vs. #9 Maine
4. E. Ill vs. #5 Lafayette
3. McNeese St. vs. #6 Colgate
2. Richmond vs #7 Texas St.

Semi's;
1. Montana vs #4 E. Ill
2. UR vs #3 McNeese St.

Finals;
#2 UR defeats #1 Montana

Midwest Qtrs;

1. S. Ill vs #9 Albany
4. Liberty vs #5 Jacksonville St.
3. SD State vs #6 Delaware
2. Elon vs #10 NAU

Semi's;
1 S. Ill vs #4 Liberty
2. Elon vs #3 SD State

Finals;
1 S. Ill defeats #3 SD State

South Qtr's;

1. ASU vs #9 JMU
4. SFA vs #5 EWU
3. UNI vs #6 FAMU
2. W&M vs #10 Furman

Semi's;
1 ASU vs #4 SFA
2 W&M vs #3 UNI

Finals;
1. ASU defeats #3 UNI

Final 4
#1 Nova vs #2 UR
#1 SIU vs #1 ASU

Championship Game
#1 Nova vs #1 SIU.

Caldwell County APP
November 17th, 2009, 01:07 PM
Only 64 teams??

xnonono2x

Did you really want the play in game?

siuham
November 17th, 2009, 01:10 PM
It's neat.

A lot of "oh god that'd be hilarious" match-ups. A lot of 'upsets' based on seeds that probably wouldn't stand a chance.

bigskyrocks
November 17th, 2009, 01:55 PM
Midwest
1 Southern Illinois vs 16 (play in game Gardiner Webb vs Missouri St winner)
2 Sc State vs 15 Jacksonville
3 Stephan F Austin vs 14 Youngstown St.
4 Liberty vs 13 Marist
5 Eastern Illinois vs 12 Dayton
6 Butler vs 11 Drake
7 Delaware vs 10 Harvard
8 Arkansas Pine Bluff vs 9 NAU

West
1 Montana vs 16 South Dakota
2 New Hampshire vs 15 Grambling st
3 McNeese St vs 14 Alabama A&M
4 Holy Cross vs 13 Wagner
5 Montana St vs 12 Samford
6 Lafayette vs 11 Southern
7 Colgate vs 10 Albany
8 Umass vs 9 Central Connecticut

East
1 Villanova vs 16 Illinois St
2 Appalachian st vs 15 Morgan St.
3 South Dakota St vs 14 Norfolk St
4 Easter Washington vs 13 Hampton
5 Jacksonville st vs 12 Brown
6 California Davis vs 11 Sam Houston st
7 Penn vs 10 Chattanooga
8 Texas St vs 9 James Madison

South
1 Richmond vs 16 Tennessee tech
2 William & Mary vs 15 Maine
3 Elon vs 14 Coastal Carolina
4 Northern Iowa vs 13 North Dakota
5 Prairie view A&M vs 12 Eastern Kentucky
6 Weber st vs 11 Furman
7 Florida A&M vs 10 Stony Brook
8 SE Louisiana vs 9 Old Dominion

Looked like fun so i thought id try it out.. most of my lower seeds are based on record alone and what i hear from these boards. my top seed was SIU based on no fcs losses and montana was 2nd.
the further down i got the harder it got because i havent watched anywhere near enough football.. if i left someone out let me know.
the final 4 would be West At MidWest and South @ East

Bogus Megapardus
November 17th, 2009, 02:07 PM
5- Lafayette vs. 12- Jacksonville

12 over 5 special? you know it happens every year....

Not.

UNHWildCats
November 17th, 2009, 02:23 PM
Midwest
1 Southern Illinois vs 16 (play in game Gardiner Webb vs Missouri St winner)
2 Sc State vs 15 Southern
3 Stephan F Austin vs 14 Youngstown St.
4 Liberty vs 13 Marist
5 Eastern Illinois vs 12 Dayton
6 Butler vs 11 Drake
7 Delaware vs 10 Harvard
8 Arkansas Pine Bluff vs 9 NAU

West
1 Montana vs 16 South Dakota
2 New Hampshire vs 15 Grambling st
3 McNeese St vs 14 Alabama A&M
4 Holy Cross vs 13 Wagner
5 Montana St vs 12 Samford
6 Lafayette vs 11 Southern
7 Colgate vs 10 Albany
8 Umass vs 9 Central Connecticut

East
1 Villanova vs 16 Illinois St
2 Appalachian st vs 15 Morgan St.
3 South Dakota St vs 14 Norfolk St
4 Easter Washington vs 13 Hampton
5 Jacksonville st vs 12 Brown
6 California Davis vs 11 Sam Houston st
7 Penn vs 10 Chattanooga
8 Texas St vs 9 James Madison

South
1 Richmond vs 16 Tennessee tech
2 William & Mary vs 15 Maine
3 Elon vs 14 Coastal Carolina
4 Northern Iowa vs 13 North Dakota
5 Prairie view A&M vs 12 Easter Kentucky
6 Weber st vs 11 Furman
7 Florida A&M vs 10 Stony Brook
8 SE Louisiana vs 9 Old Dominion

Looked like fun so i thought id try it out.. most of my lower seeds are based on record alone and what i hear from these boards. my top seed was SIU based on no fcs losses and montana was 2nd.
the further down i got the harder it got because i havent watched anywhere near enough football.. if i left someone out let me know.
the final 4 would be West At MidWest and South @ East
I guess I gotta give this a crack this afternoon.

Eight Legger
November 17th, 2009, 02:25 PM
Did you really want the play in game?

Only ONE play-in game?? xeekx

JMUNJ08
November 17th, 2009, 02:46 PM
Only ONE play-in game?? xeekx

Just put everyone in!xlolx

Gtown / Presby play-in...Somebody's gotta win!

UNHWildCats
November 17th, 2009, 02:57 PM
Only ONE play-in game?? xeekx
im working on 1. there are 69 teams with atleast a .500 record right now... all but 1 of those teams will be in my field.

813Jag
November 17th, 2009, 03:01 PM
Midwest
1 Southern Illinois vs 16 (play in game Gardiner Webb vs Missouri St winner)
2 Sc State vs 15 Southern
3 Stephan F Austin vs 14 Youngstown St.
4 Liberty vs 13 Marist
5 Eastern Illinois vs 12 Dayton
6 Butler vs 11 Drake
7 Delaware vs 10 Harvard
8 Arkansas Pine Bluff vs 9 NAU

West
1 Montana vs 16 South Dakota
2 New Hampshire vs 15 Grambling st
3 McNeese St vs 14 Alabama A&M
4 Holy Cross vs 13 Wagner
5 Montana St vs 12 Samford
6 Lafayette vs 11 Southern
7 Colgate vs 10 Albany
8 Umass vs 9 Central Connecticut

East
1 Villanova vs 16 Illinois St
2 Appalachian st vs 15 Morgan St.
3 South Dakota St vs 14 Norfolk St
4 Easter Washington vs 13 Hampton
5 Jacksonville st vs 12 Brown
6 California Davis vs 11 Sam Houston st
7 Penn vs 10 Chattanooga
8 Texas St vs 9 James Madison

South
1 Richmond vs 16 Tennessee tech
2 William & Mary vs 15 Maine
3 Elon vs 14 Coastal Carolina
4 Northern Iowa vs 13 North Dakota
5 Prairie view A&M vs 12 Easter Kentucky
6 Weber st vs 11 Furman
7 Florida A&M vs 10 Stony Brook
8 SE Louisiana vs 9 Old Dominion

Looked like fun so i thought id try it out.. most of my lower seeds are based on record alone and what i hear from these boards. my top seed was SIU based on no fcs losses and montana was 2nd.
the further down i got the harder it got because i havent watched anywhere near enough football.. if i left someone out let me know.
the final 4 would be West At MidWest and South @ East
I like your bracket Southern gets two chances to advance. xlolx An SC State/Southern matchup would be entertaining.

UNHWildCats
November 17th, 2009, 03:37 PM
OK, I just put together a field using the GPI. Only teams with a .500 record or better were put in. Teams 1-4 in the GPI were seeded #1 and placed in the best possible region with the #1 overall team getting prioity. The same priority was given as best as possible for each subsequent group (5-8, 9-12, 13-16 ect.) It is possible my geographic map in my head failed me once or twice... but overall its a decent bracket. Marist was the unlucky team. There were 69 teams right now .500 or better and Marist has the worst GPI so were left out.


http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3281/fcsfield.png

bigskyrocks
November 17th, 2009, 05:23 PM
I like your bracket Southern gets two chances to advance. xlolx An SC State/Southern matchup would be entertaining.

fixed it

bjtheflamesfan
November 17th, 2009, 05:33 PM
Here are my 64:

East
1. Villanova
2. Appalachian State
3. South Carolina State
4. Holy Cross
5. Stephen F. Austin
6. Colgate
7. Florida A&M
8. Albany
9. Dayton
10. Sam Houston State
11. Prairie View A&M
12. Wagner
13. Youngstown State
14. Drake
15. Coastal Carolina
16. Morgan State

Villanova vs Morgan State
Appalachian State vs Coastal Carolina
South Carolina State vs Drake
Holy Cross vs Youngstown State
Stephen F. Austin vs Wagner
Colgate vs. Prairie View A&M
Florida A&M vs Sam Houston State
Albany vs. Dayton
(If this were real)
Potential rematch between App State and SCSU in the semis

South
1. Richmond
2. New Hampshire
3. McNeese State
4. Jacksonville State
5. Eastern Illinois
6. Lafayette
7. SE Louisiana
8. Eastern Kentucky
9. Maine
10. Tennessee Tech
11. Norfolk State
12. Massachusetts
13. Monmouth
14. Samford
15. Stony Brook
16. Bethune-Cookman

Richmond vs Bethune Cookman
New Hampshire vs Stony Brook
McNeese State vs Samford
Jacksonville State vs. Monmouth
Eastern Illinois vs Massachusetts
Lafayette vs Norfolk State
SE Louisiana vs Tennessee Tech
Eastern Kentucky vs Maine

Midwest
1. Southern Illinois
2. Northern Iowa
3. William and Mary
4. South Dakota State
5. Delaware
6. Liberty
7. Penn
8. Old Dominion
9. James Madison
10. Central Arkansas
11. Central Connecticut State
12. Harvard
13. Marist
14. Southern University
15. South Dakota
16. Austin Peay

Southern Illinois vs Austin Peay
Northern Iowa vs South Dakota
William and Mary vs Southern
South Dakota State vs Marist
Delaware vs Harvard
Liberty vs Central Connecticut State
Pennsylvania vs Central Arkansas
Old Dominion vs James Madison




West
1. Montana
2. Elon
3. Eastern Washington
4. Weber State
5. Texas State
6. Montana State
7. Missouri State
8. Butler
9. Chattanooga
10. North Dakota
11. Jacksonville
12. Charleston Southern
13. Illinois State
14. Northern Arizona
15. Gardner-Webb
16. North Carolina A&T

Montana vs North Carolina A&T
Elon vs. Gardner-Webb
Eastern Washington vs Northern Arizona
Weber State vs Illinois State
Texas State vs Charleston Southern
Montata State vs Jacksonville
Missouri State vs North Dakota
Butler vs Chattanooga

Go...gate
November 17th, 2009, 05:43 PM
Did you really want the play in game?

You have to get the Ivy League in somehow.

Go...gate
November 17th, 2009, 05:44 PM
Here are my 64:

East
1. Villanova
2. Appalachian State
3. South Carolina State
4. Holy Cross
5. Stephen F. Austin
6. Colgate
7. Florida A&M
8. Albany
9. Dayton
10. Sam Houston State
11. Prairie View A&M
12. Wagner
13. Youngstown State
14. Drake
15. Coastal Carolina
16. Morgan State


South
1. Richmond
2. New Hampshire
3. McNeese State
4. Jacksonville State
5. Eastern Illinois
6. Lafayette
7. SE Louisiana
8. Eastern Kentucky
9. Maine
10. Tennessee Tech
11. Norfolk State
12. Massachusetts
13. Monmouth
14. Samford
15. Stony Brook
16. Bethune-Cookman

Midwest
1. Southern Illinois
2. Northern Iowa
3. William and Mary
4. South Dakota State
5. Delaware
6. Liberty
7. Penn
8. Old Dominion
9. James Madison
10. Central Arkansas
11. Central Connecticut State
12. Harvard
13. Marist
14. Southern University
15. South Dakota
16. Austin Peay


West
1. Montana
2. Elon
3. Eastern Washington
4. Weber State
5. Texas State
6. Montana State
7. Missouri State
8. Butler
9. Chattanooga
10. North Dakota
11. Jacksonville
12. Charleston Southern
13. Illinois State
14. Northern Arizona
15. Gardner-Webb
16. North Carolina A&T

With Penn and Harvard, Dayton and Drake - nicely done.

bjtheflamesfan
November 17th, 2009, 06:12 PM
With Penn and Harvard, Dayton and Drake - nicely done.

Thanks...I also tried to regionalize the matchups as best I could...of course you do have a few teams making some significant trips which is bound to happen

wr70beh
November 17th, 2009, 08:39 PM
Why does everyone keep putting in ODU in their brackets, and a top 8 seed in a region at that? They played a Little Debbie schedule if there ever was one. I would put in Fordham over them.

JMUNJ08
November 17th, 2009, 09:15 PM
Old Dominion vs James Madison

Couple years early!

ToTheLeft
November 17th, 2009, 09:45 PM
Liberty playing a conference for first round?

Other than that, it looks like it'd be fun. I'd be all for it.

UNHWildCats
November 17th, 2009, 10:00 PM
Why does everyone keep putting in ODU in their brackets, and a top 8 seed in a region at that? They played a Little Debbie schedule if there ever was one. I would put in Fordham over them.
Agreed. GPI would place them as a 15 seed. Problem is people are going by record it would appear. They maybe 8-2, but its not a great 8-2. Heck a 9-1 Butler team barely makes the field with the GPI and an 8-2 Marist is left out.

GolfingGriz
November 17th, 2009, 10:09 PM
OK, I just put together a field using the GPI. Only teams with a .500 record or better were put in. Teams 1-4 in the GPI were seeded #1 and placed in the best possible region with the #1 overall team getting prioity. The same priority was given as best as possible for each subsequent group (5-8, 9-12, 13-16 ect.) It is possible my geographic map in my head failed me once or twice... but overall its a decent bracket. Marist was the unlucky team. There were 69 teams right now .500 or better and Marist has the worst GPI so were left out.


http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3281/fcsfield.png

Really? Three CAA teams as #1 seeds? Lets just play the CAA conference championship tourney and call it good.

UNHWildCats
November 17th, 2009, 10:24 PM
Really? Three CAA teams as #1 seeds? Lets just play the CAA conference championship tourney and call it good.
that wasnt put together based on my bias.. its simply based on the current GPI.

bjtheflamesfan
November 18th, 2009, 12:57 AM
I used other brackets as reference points and also factored in GPI (although a few teams ended up a little high including ODU) and I also tried to keep as many matchups as regionally feasible as possible. Of course there are a few where teams will have to still make some significant travel even in later rounds but I do think that you still have potential for some interesting matchups down the road.

bjtheflamesfan
November 18th, 2009, 01:04 AM
Here are my 64 with numbers for clarity in matchups:


East
1. Villanova #1 Overall
2. Appalachian State
3. South Carolina State
4. Holy Cross
5. Stephen F. Austin
6. Colgate
7. Florida A&M
8. Albany
9. Dayton
10. Sam Houston State
11. Prairie View A&M
12. Wagner
13. Youngstown State
14. Drake
15. Coastal Carolina
16. Morgan State

#1 Villanova vs #16 Morgan State
#2 Appalachian State vs #15 Coastal Carolina
#3 South Carolina State vs #14 Drake
#4 Holy Cross vs #13 Youngstown State
#5 Stephen F. Austin vs #12 Wagner
#6 Colgate vs. #11 Prairie View A&M
#7 Florida A&M vs #10 Sam Houston State
#8 Albany vs. #9 Dayton
(If this were real)
Potential rematch between App State and SCSU in the semis


South
1. Richmond #4 Overall
2. New Hampshire
3. McNeese State
4. Jacksonville State
5. Eastern Illinois
6. Lafayette
7. SE Louisiana
8. Eastern Kentucky
9. Maine
10. Tennessee Tech
11. Norfolk State
12. Massachusetts
13. Monmouth
14. Samford
15. Stony Brook
16. Bethune-Cookman

#1 Richmond vs #16 Bethune Cookman
#2 New Hampshire vs #15 Stony Brook
#3 McNeese State vs #14 Samford
#4 Jacksonville State vs. #13 Monmouth
#5 Eastern Illinois vs #12 Massachusetts
#6 Lafayette vs #11 Norfolk State
#7 SE Louisiana vs #10 Tennessee Tech
#8 Eastern Kentucky vs #9 Maine

Midwest
1. Southern Illinois #3 Overall
2. Northern Iowa
3. William and Mary
4. South Dakota State
5. Delaware
6. Liberty
7. Penn
8. Old Dominion
9. James Madison
10. Central Arkansas
11. Central Connecticut State
12. Harvard
13. Marist
14. Southern University
15. South Dakota
16. Austin Peay

#1 Southern Illinois vs #16 Austin Peay
#2 Northern Iowa vs #15 South Dakota
#3 William and Mary vs # 14 Southern
#4 South Dakota State vs #13 Marist
#5 Delaware vs #12 Harvard
#6 Liberty vs #11 Central Connecticut State
#7 Pennsylvania vs #10 Central Arkansas
#8 Old Dominion vs #9 James Madison




West
1. Montana #2 Overall
2. Elon
3. Eastern Washington
4. Weber State
5. Texas State
6. Montana State
7. Missouri State
8. Butler
9. Chattanooga
10. North Dakota
11. Jacksonville
12. Charleston Southern
13. Illinois State
14. Northern Arizona
15. Gardner-Webb
16. North Carolina A&T

#1 Montana vs #16 North Carolina A&T
#2 Elon vs. #15 Gardner-Webb
#3 Eastern Washington vs #14 Northern Arizona
#4 Weber State vs #13 Illinois State
#5 Texas State vs #12 Charleston Southern
#6 Montana State vs #11 Jacksonville
#7 Missouri State vs #10 North Dakota
#8 Butler vs #9 Chattanooga

UNHWildCats
November 18th, 2009, 01:20 AM
Northern Arizona is in the field somewhere between 53-56 but two pioneer schools in between 29-36? thats seriously flawed.

bjtheflamesfan
November 18th, 2009, 02:47 PM
I know its flawed...anything done by humans is to a degree. In my hypothetical tournament, both PFL teams get #1 seeds in the second round. Northern Arizona actually would get two BSC in its first two games and would face three BSC teams in 4 games if they made a serious run.

joecooll6
November 18th, 2009, 03:19 PM
Neat idea but you all gotta include the play-in game!!

BDKJMU
November 18th, 2009, 03:56 PM
Here are my 64:
Midwest
1. Southern Illinois
2. Northern Iowa
3. William and Mary
4. South Dakota State
5. Delaware
6. Liberty
7. Penn
8. Old Dominion
9. James Madison
10. Central Arkansas
11. Central Connecticut State
12. Harvard
13. Marist
14. Southern University
15. South Dakota
16. Austin Peay

Southern Illinois vs Austin Peay
Northern Iowa vs South Dakota
William and Mary vs Southern
South Dakota State vs Marist
Delaware vs Harvard
Liberty vs Central Connecticut State
Pennsylvania vs Central Arkansas
Old Dominion vs James Madison


Liberty ahead of JMU? Old Dominion ahead of JMU. Not a single computer ranking or human poll has that. xlolxxlolx

BDKJMU
November 18th, 2009, 03:57 PM
Why does everyone keep putting in ODU in their brackets, and a top 8 seed in a region at that? They played a Little Debbie schedule if there ever was one. I would put in Fordham over them.

Because you have retards on here?

bjtheflamesfan
November 18th, 2009, 04:05 PM
Liberty ahead of JMU? Old Dominion ahead of JMU. Not a single computer ranking or human poll has that. xlolxxlolx

that was mostly based on record...if I did put JMU ahead of LU and ODU Id have JMU at 6 or 7 then ODU and LU right behind (not necessarily in that order)

bjtheflamesfan
November 18th, 2009, 04:07 PM
and as I said to UNH, I know that my bracket is flawed...Im human and these are hypothetical.

UNHWildCats
November 18th, 2009, 04:10 PM
that was mostly based on record...if I did put JMU ahead of LU and ODU Id have JMU at 6 or 7 then ODU and LU right behind (not necessarily in that order)
So would a 10-1 butler get a better spot then a 9-2 Liberty? records arent everything....

bjtheflamesfan
November 18th, 2009, 04:17 PM
If I rearranged things probably but they would end up in an 8-9 matchup (8-9 is supposed to be the most equal in a given region in the NCAA basketball tournament)

NHwildEcat
November 18th, 2009, 04:19 PM
Really? Three CAA teams as #1 seeds? Lets just play the CAA conference championship tourney and call it good.

Under this seeding...UNH would be playing in a rematch with 'Nova for a Final 4 trip! I can't say I would mind it!!

NHwildEcat
November 18th, 2009, 04:21 PM
OK, I just put together a field using the GPI. Only teams with a .500 record or better were put in. Teams 1-4 in the GPI were seeded #1 and placed in the best possible region with the #1 overall team getting prioity. The same priority was given as best as possible for each subsequent group (5-8, 9-12, 13-16 ect.) It is possible my geographic map in my head failed me once or twice... but overall its a decent bracket. Marist was the unlucky team. There were 69 teams right now .500 or better and Marist has the worst GPI so were left out.


http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3281/fcsfield.png

Under this seeding, UNH would have an Elite 8 match-up with 'Nova...I wouldn't mind that!

bjtheflamesfan
November 18th, 2009, 04:28 PM
A very good bracket if I do say so myself UNH...I have you guys with a pretty nice path til the regional final (against Richmond)

UNHWildCats
November 18th, 2009, 05:14 PM
If I rearranged things probably but they would end up in an 8-9 matchup (8-9 is supposed to be the most equal in a given region in the NCAA basketball tournament)
So you feel Liberty and Butler are equal? If so, Liberty has no business making the playoffs next weekend xrulesx xthumbsupxxthumbsupxxthumbsupx xreadx

UNHWildCats
November 18th, 2009, 05:16 PM
A very good bracket if I do say so myself UNH...I have you guys with a pretty nice path til the regional final (against Richmond)
Thats the beauty of it... people can b*&ch about it, but its purely done by GPI. That being said, its amazing how nicely it came out using the GPI.. the only argument and its somewhat valid is that the CAA gets 3 of the #1 while Montana is a #2. But last year the Big East got three of the four #1 seeds in the basketball tourney so....

ElonPride
November 18th, 2009, 05:41 PM
Nice bracket!

bjtheflamesfan
November 18th, 2009, 05:43 PM
So you feel Liberty and Butler are equal? If so, Liberty has no business making the playoffs next weekend xrulesx xthumbsupxxthumbsupxxthumbsupx xreadx

lol...I get your point. Recordwise they are close to equal but if there is one thing going against Butler (and Liberty to a degree) its the conference theyre in.

bjtheflamesfan
November 18th, 2009, 05:51 PM
I reworked the Midwest (and the West) a little (one of the beauties of using WordPad to set up your brackets) and this is what I came up with:

Midwest
1. Southern Illinois #3 Overall
2. Northern Iowa
3. William and Mary
4. South Dakota State
5. Delaware
6. James Madison
7. Liberty
8. Penn
9. Harvard
10. Central Arkansas
11. Central Connecticut State
12. Old Dominion
13. Marist
14. Southern University
15. South Dakota
16. Austin Peay

1 Southern Illinois vs #16 Austin Peay
#2 Northern Iowa vs #15 South Dakota
#3 William and Mary vs # 14 Southern
#4 South Dakota State vs #13 Marist
#5 Delaware vs #12 Old Dominion
#6 James Madison vs #11 Central Connecticut State
#7 Liberty vs #10 Central Arkansas
#8 Harvard vs #9 Penn

West
1. Montana #2 Overall
2. Elon
3. Eastern Washington
4. Weber State
5. Texas State
6. Montana State
7. Missouri State
8. North Dakota
9. Chattanooga
10. Jacksonville
11. Butler
12. Charleston Southern
13. Illinois State
14. Northern Arizona
15. Gardner-Webb
16. North Carolina A&T

#1 Montana vs #16 North Carolina A&T
#2 Elon vs. #15 Gardner-Webb
#3 Eastern Washington vs #14 Northern Arizona
#4 Weber State vs #13 Illinois State
#5 Texas State vs #12 Charleston Southern
#6 Montana State vs #11 Butler
#7 Missouri State vs #10 Jacksonville
#8 North Dakota vs #9 Chattanooga

The East had a minor change (moving Sam Houston between Albany and Dayton) and the South remains unchanged

SoCalAg
November 18th, 2009, 05:56 PM
I reworked the Midwest (and the West) a little (one of the beauties of using WordPad to set up your brackets) and this is what I came up with:

Midwest
1. Southern Illinois #3 Overall
2. Northern Iowa
3. William and Mary
4. South Dakota State
5. Delaware
6. James Madison
7. Liberty
8. Penn
9. Harvard
10. Central Arkansas
11. Central Connecticut State
12. Old Dominion
13. Marist
14. Southern University
15. South Dakota
16. Austin Peay

1 Southern Illinois vs #16 Austin Peay
#2 Northern Iowa vs #15 South Dakota
#3 William and Mary vs # 14 Southern
#4 South Dakota State vs #13 Marist
#5 Delaware vs #12 Old Dominion
#6 James Madison vs #11 Central Connecticut State
#7 Liberty vs #10 Central Arkansas
#8 Harvard vs #9 Penn

West
1. Montana #2 Overall
2. Elon
3. Eastern Washington
4. Weber State
5. Texas State
6. Montana State
7. Missouri State
8. North Dakota
9. Chattanooga
10. Jacksonville
11. Butler
12. Charleston Southern
13. Illinois State
14. Northern Arizona
15. Gardner-Webb
16. North Carolina A&T

#1 Montana vs #16 North Carolina A&T
#2 Elon vs. #15 Gardner-Webb
#3 Eastern Washington vs #14 Northern Arizona
#4 Weber State vs #13 Illinois State
#5 Texas State vs #12 Charleston Southern
#6 Montana State vs #11 Butler
#7 Missouri State vs #10 Jacksonville
#8 North Dakota vs #9 Chattanooga

The East had a minor change (moving Sam Houston between Albany and Dayton) and the South remains unchanged

You have North and South Dakota, but no UC Davis? Davis is a conference champion and beat both Dakotas this year....C'mon give us a top 8 seed somewhere!

bjtheflamesfan
November 18th, 2009, 06:11 PM
You have North and South Dakota, but no UC Davis? Davis is a conference champion and beat both Dakotas this year....C'mon give us a top 8 seed somewhere!

How does #8 in the Midwest with a first round matchup with Ivy League champ Penn and a second round date with Southern Illinois sound?

UNHWildCats
November 18th, 2009, 06:27 PM
lol...I get your point. Recordwise they are close to equal but if there is one thing going against Butler (and Liberty to a degree) its the conference theyre in.
The Big South looks like the SEC compared to the Pioneer xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolx

bjtheflamesfan
November 18th, 2009, 11:22 PM
I concur (at least we didnt have to have a weekly visit from USD posters this time around after the polls came out). In any case I did miss UC Davis as our friend so astutely pointed out and that has been addressed. I'll repost probably tonight or tomorrow

bjtheflamesfan
November 19th, 2009, 10:41 PM
Midwest
1. Southern Illinois #3 Overall
2. Northern Iowa
3. William and Mary
4. South Dakota State
5. Delaware
6. James Madison
7. Liberty
8. UC Davis
9. Penn
10. Harvard
11. Central Arkansas
12. Central Connecticut State
13. Old Dominion
14. Marist
15. Southern University
16. South Dakota

#1 Southern Illinois vs #16 South Dakota
#2 Northern Iowa vs #15 Southern
#3 William and Mary vs # 14 Marist
#4 South Dakota State vs #13 Old Dominion
#5 Delaware vs #12 Central Connecticut State
#6 James Madison vs #11 Central Arkansas
#7 Liberty vs #10 Harvard
#8 UC Davis vs #9 Penn

West
1. Montana #2 Overall
2. Elon
3. Eastern Washington
4. Weber State
5. Texas State
6. Montana State
7. Missouri State
8. North Dakota
9. Chattanooga
10. Jacksonville
11. Butler
12. Charleston Southern
13. Illinois State
14. Northern Arizona
15. Gardner-Webb
16. North Carolina A&T

#1 Montana vs #16 North Carolina A&T
#2 Elon vs. #15 Gardner-Webb
#3 Eastern Washington vs #14 Northern Arizona
#4 Weber State vs #13 Illinois State
#5 Texas State vs #12 Charleston Southern
#6 Montana State vs #11 Butler
#7 Missouri State vs #10 Jacksonville
#8 North Dakota vs #9 Chattanooga

There...now this is hypothetical...anybody else wanna complain?

TheBisonator
November 20th, 2009, 10:38 PM
The sad part is that my team sucks so bad this year, we're not even in that bracket...xsmhx

bjtheflamesfan
November 24th, 2009, 12:59 PM
Lest I forget the other two regions...

East
1. Villanova #1 Overall
2. Appalachian State
3. South Carolina State
4. Holy Cross
5. Stephen F. Austin
6. Colgate
7. Florida A&M
8. Albany
9. Dayton
10. Sam Houston State
11. Prairie View A&M
12. Wagner
13. Youngstown State
14. Drake
15. Coastal Carolina
16. Morgan State

#1 Villanova vs #16 Morgan State
#2 Appalachian State vs #15 Coastal Carolina
#3 South Carolina State vs #14 Drake
#4 Holy Cross vs #13 Youngstown State
#5 Stephen F. Austin vs #12 Wagner
#6 Colgate vs. #11 Prairie View A&M
#7 Florida A&M vs #10 Sam Houston State
#8 Albany vs. #9 Dayton
(If this were real)
Potential rematch between App State and SCSU in the semis


South
1. Richmond #4 Overall
2. New Hampshire
3. McNeese State
4. Jacksonville State
5. Eastern Illinois
6. Lafayette
7. SE Louisiana
8. Eastern Kentucky
9. Maine
10. Tennessee Tech
11. Norfolk State
12. Massachusetts
13. Monmouth
14. Samford
15. Stony Brook
16. Bethune-Cookman

#1 Richmond vs #16 Bethune Cookman
#2 New Hampshire vs #15 Stony Brook
#3 McNeese State vs #14 Samford
#4 Jacksonville State vs. #13 Monmouth
#5 Eastern Illinois vs #12 Massachusetts
#6 Lafayette vs #11 Norfolk State
#7 SE Louisiana vs #10 Tennessee Tech
#8 Eastern Kentucky vs #9 Maine

Schfourteenteen
November 24th, 2009, 01:11 PM
Thank goodness.

chattanoogamocs
November 24th, 2009, 02:15 PM
I must have missed this thread last year...very cool.

Nice to see the Mocs being a 10 seed or better in most brackets. Theyv'e come quite a ways since last year.

As for ODU, if this was basketball the committee would penalize them heavily for too many non-DI's, one of the weakest schedules in FCS and not getting out on the road enough (7 home, only 4 road).

(No offense intended to ODU, this is just for fun...ODU had a great first season + AMAZING attendance)