TSN poll 11/09/09

[Keenan]

1. Southern Illinois Salukis (37) 8-1 3,196 3
2. Montana Grizzlies (64) 9-0 3,172 2
3. Villanova Wildcats (32) 8-1 3,161 4
4. Richmond Spiders 8-1 2,882 1
5. William & Mary Tribe 8-1 2,791 5
6. Elon Phoenix 8-1 2,664 6
7. Appalachian State Mountaineers 7-2 2,583 7
8. New Hampshire Wildcats (1) 8-1 2,416 8
9. South Carolina State Bulldogs (1) 8-1 2,232 10
10. McNeese State Cowboys 7-2 2,027 12
11. Northern Iowa Panthers 6-3 1,970 11
12. South Dakota State Jackrabbits 7-2 1,721 9
13. Holy Cross Crusaders 8-1 1,579 13
14. Eastern Illinois Panthers 7-2 1,466 14
15. Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks 7-2 1,348 15
16. Liberty Flames 7-2 1,246 16
17. Jacksonville State Gamecocks 6-3 1,129 17
18. Eastern Washington Eagles 6-3 869 21
19. Weber State Wildcats 5-4 790 19
20. Lafayette Leopards 8-1 778 25
21. Prairie View A&M Panthers 6-1 741 22
22. Florida A&M Rattlers 7-2 636 24
23. Delaware Blue Hens 6-3 605 23
24. Colgate Raiders 8-2 392 18
25. Texas State Bobcats 6-3 207 NR
Others receiving votes: Southeastern Louisiana 168, Massachusetts 127, Penn 116, Harvard 114, Montana State 109, Northern Arizona 106, Central Arkansas 86, Eastern Kentucky 84, Butler 77, Cal Poly 42, James Madison 36, Drake 28, Tennessee Tech 27, Western Carolina 23, Illinois State 19, Central Connecticut State 14, UC Davis 14, Sam Houston State 13, Grambling 11, Old Dominion 11, Jacksonville 9, Maine 9, Missouri State 8, Tennessee-Martin 5, Texas Southern 5, Brown 3, Morgan State 3, Alabama A&M 2, Arkansas-Pine Bluff 1, Dayton 1, Hofstra 1, Southern 1, Stony Brook 1.

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/misc/TSN-DIV-1AA-POLL.htm

[Silenoz]

Hah, almost as many first place votes as the other two combined. Probably don't see something like that often

[uofmman1122]

Ummmmm.....


wat

[knucklehead]

That is the craziest top 3 ever. How bout thos 1st place votes.

[sluki86]

It's perfect! xnodx

[GannonFan]

Yeah, apparently if you didn't have Montana #1, you didn't have them #2 either.

[SuperJon]

Who the heck is voting for Western Carolina.

[WestCoastAggie]

Never knew that a team could get more first place votes and still not get the #1 ranking that week.

[UMass922]

Who the heck is voting for Western Carolina.

The ORV in the TSN poll always makes for great reading. xlolx

[Chi Panther]

How far does SDSU drop after the Minn loss this week????

[Hoyadestroya85]

EAST COAST BIAS! oh wait, SIU is in the Midwest :p

[Keenan]

How far does SDSU drop after the Minn loss this week????

Great question. SDSU is a hard team to figure out. One minute they look like world beaters and the next...

[Khan4Cats]

Great question. SDSU is a hard team to figure out. One minute they look like world beaters and the next...

I'm a little surprised they dropped below UNI. They are still 7-2 while UNI is 6-3, and SDSU won the head to head. It shouldn't be that big of a black mark to lose to a top 4 team at home. Does a loss to Minnesota put them on the bubble for the play-offs even with a final week win. They would be 8-3 and a clear 2nd place in the Valley. That loss to Cal-Poly isn't looking so good right now.

[kirkblitz]

lib is in

[WrenFGun]

SOMEONE HAS SEEN THE LIGHT.

[Native]

... SDSU is a hard team to figure out. One minute they look like world beaters and the next...

Go figure! The Jackrabbits lost to Cal Poly 14-21 earlier in the season.

It is grossly unjust, however, for pollsters to rank SDSU below UNI so soon after having beat the Panthers 24-14, especially since Northern Iowa has not a single top 25 victory.

[Native]

I'm a little surprised they dropped below UNI. They are still 7-2 while UNI is 6-3, and SDSU won the head to head. It shouldn't be that big of a black mark to lose to a top 4 team at home. Does a loss to Minnesota put them on the bubble for the play-offs even with a final week win. They would be 8-3 and a clear 2nd place in the Valley. That loss to Cal-Poly isn't looking so good right now.

Yes, but at least the Jackrabbits have a quality top 25 win. The Panthers have none.

[WestCoastAggie]

lib is in
We gotta wait for the GPI to come out before we say this.

[grizzpaw]

better than the ags poll!

[Khan4Cats]

Yes, but at least the Jackrabbits have a quality top 25 win. The Panthers have none.

Note that I said I was surprised that UNI passed SDSU. I don't think we should have.

And while we don't have a top 25 win, we also don't have a bad loss. If we make the play-offs, I'm pretty sure whomever we get matched up with won't be 'thrilled' about the match-up.

[89Hen]

better than the ags poll!
Funny how the only people that say things like that are fans of teams who are ranked higher in another poll. xcoffeex

[Hoyadestroya85]

better than the ags poll!

xrolleyesx Just because Montana is ranked in the top two?

[grizzpaw]

just so u know 89 ITS NOT THE RANKING that makes me mad! how far does a caa team DROP after beating northeastern? montana has now dropped 4 times in the ags poll FOR WINNING!

[GannonFan]

just so u know 89 ITS NOT THE RANKING that makes me mad! how far does a caa team DROP after beating northeastern? montana has now dropped 4 times in the ags poll FOR WINNING!

The next time a top CAA team needs a last second FG to beat Northeastern, we should have a pretty good gauge to compare. xthumbsupx

[89Hen]

just so u know 89 ITS NOT THE RANKING that makes me mad! how far does a caa team DROP after beating northeastern? montana has now dropped 4 times in the ags poll FOR WINNING!
Dunno. I recall Delaware winning a game 84-0 a few years ago and dropping in the polls. xpeacex

[89Hen]

just so u know 89 ITS NOT THE RANKING that makes me mad! how far does a caa team DROP after beating northeastern? montana has now dropped 4 times in the ags poll FOR WINNING!
Wait a minute.... Montana is #3 in the AGS poll. Do you mean to tell me they were -1 at one point? xeyebrowx xsmiley_wix

[Khan4Cats]

Wait a minute.... Montana is #3 in the AGS poll. Do you mean to tell me they were -1 at one point? xeyebrowx xsmiley_wix

Not possible, that spot is reserved for North Dakota State.xthumbsupx

[Shellin]

I don't have a problem with teams jumping Montana at this point, the top 4 are all awfully close to one another right now. If the standards by which people used to jump Villanova and SIU over Montana were strictly that UM played a bad game against a terrible team then I would be upset, but SIU clubbed an SDSU team that everyone was pretty high on and Villanova beat the previously undefeated #1 ranked, defending national champions. Some fluidity does need to happen in polls, even late in the season.

[grizzpaw]

if montana got to play the nec, patroit, meac, for their first round like the caa does EVERY year we could pad our winning record also!

[89Hen]

if montana got to play the nec, patroit, meac, for their first round like the caa does EVERY year we could pad our winning record also!
xviolinx

BTW, who was the last NEC team to make the field?

[WestCoastAggie]

if montana got to play the nec, patroit, meac, for their first round like the caa does EVERY year we could pad our winning record also!

You don't have to throw the MEAC in this!!!!

[jmc_jackrabbit]

Great question. SDSU is a hard team to figure out. One minute they look like world beaters and the next...

... and the next they lost... to the #1 team in the country.

How do you fall behind a team you beat (UNI) after losing to a team they also lost to, a team that is now #1?

Crazy.

[Dukie95]

if montana got to play the nec, patroit, meac, for their first round like the caa does EVERY year we could pad our winning record also!

xflaggedx

Duke, UVA, Temple

[mcveyrl]

xflaggedx

Duke, UVA, Temple

He's talking about the first round of the playoffs. But I'm not sure why the NEC was thrown in there...xconfusedx

[89Hen]

He's talking about the first round of the playoffs. But I'm not sure why the NEC was thrown in there...xconfusedx
To make his claim sound better.

[Dukie95]

Oops...my bad...

Still not fair...JMU has faced App St., Wofford and YSU in round 1 in recent years.

[lucchesicourt]

Cal Poly getting more votes than any other GWC member, and yet with a loss next week they will finish last in conference. Umm, can't figure out TSN voting here. And the winner of the UCD-UND game will be conference champs. Cal Poly has no shot at being conference champ and has a losing record. UCD and UND are getting much less respect than Poly. I am not talking about being ranked, just what the h*** are TSN voters seeing that I do not?

[uofmman1122]

Cal Poly getting more votes than any other GWC member, and yet with a loss next week they will finish last in conference. Umm, can't figure out TSN voting here. And the winner of the UCD-UND game will be conference champs. Cal Poly has no shot at being conference champ and has a losing record. UCD and UND are getting much less respect than Poly. I am not talking about being ranked, just what the h*** are TSN voters seeing that I do not?Looking back, I'm not surprised by Cal Poly's fall from last year. I had them as my furthest falling team in 2009, and despite JMU's best efforts, I'd say they're taking the cake this year.

[Silenoz]

To make his claim sound better.
No, it's because we've never played anyone from half of the FCS conferences so we get confused as to who is where xlolx

For example, Norfolk State. MEAC? NEC? SWAC? OVC? Pioneer? Who knows!

[uofmman1122]

No, it's because we've never played anyone from half of the FCS conferences so we get confused as to who is where xlolx

For example, Norfolk State. Eh, MEAC?West Coast Bias!! xlolx

Although from Tokyo, it'd still be an East Coast Bias. xlolx xlolx