Ivy League Week 9 Picks

[Ivytalk]

Penn at Harvard: Ivy League GOTY, with the winner in all likelihood the IL champ. Penn put up some points this week, but I like Harvard in a close one at home, 20-17.

Yale at Princeton: Princeton will be up for its "big game," but Yale wins it, 16-14.

Columbia at Cornell: This year's battle of New York goes to the Big Red in a 24-14 yawner.

Dartmouth at Brown: Buddy's boys go back to their losing ways, 34-17.

[bulldog10jw]

Penn at Harvard: Harvard is a little more solid "all around". Plus I hate Penn. Harvard 20-10

Yale at Princeton: Yale 24-17

Columbia at Cornell:Two teams racing to the bottom of the league. Cornell wins that race, but loses the game 21-13

Dartmouth at Brown: Brown is just much better. Brown 28-7

[bonarae]

Harvard by 3 (toss-up)
Yale by 6 (close)
Cornell by 10
Brown by 7

[Ivytalk]

Penn at Harvard: Harvard is a little more solid "all around". Plus I hate Penn. Harvard 20-10

Yale at Princeton: Yale 24-17

Columbia at Cornell:Two teams racing to the bottom of the league. Cornell wins that race, but loses the game 21-13

Dartmouth at Brown: Brown is just much better. Brown 28-7

bulldog, that's reason enough! I hate 'em too!

Good luck against P'ton.

[DJOM]

Princeton has laid off the entire season for just this game. We have lulled Yale into a false sense of security and will spring the trap this weekend. Princeton takes this one.

Harvard beats Penn in a close contest by 7.

[bulldog10jw]

Princeton has laid off the entire season for just this game. We have lulled Yale into a false sense of security and will spring the trap this weekend. Princeton takes this one.

Harvard beats Penn in a close contest by 7.

Yale isn't good enough to have a false sense of security. xlolx

It will be close. Y-P usually is.

[YaleFootballFan]

Penn at Harvard: Why isn't this game on YES? Harvard rolls 34-21.

Yale at Princeton: Battle of two very bad teams. Yale always finds a way to topple their ancient rivals, especially down in Jersey. Elis win the 132nd meeting, 17-14.

Columbia at Cornell: Another battle of two bad teams. I like Columbia in this one, 28-24.

Dartmouth at Brown: Bears in a rout, 35-7.

[bulldog10jw]

Penn at Harvard: Why isn't this game on YES? Harvard rolls 34-21.

Yale at Princeton: Battle of two very bad teams. Yale always finds a way to topple their ancient rivals, especially down in Jersey. Elis win the 132nd meeting, 17-14.

Columbia at Cornell: Another battle of two bad teams. I like Columbia in this one, 28-24.

Dartmouth at Brown: Bears in a rout, 35-7.

I prefer to think of Yale as mediocre.

[Harvard Worship]

Princeton has laid off the entire season for just this game. We have lulled Yale into a false sense of security and will spring the trap this weekend. Princeton takes this one.

Harvard beats Penn in a close contest by 7.

I love the indefatigable optimism. But my guesses:

Harvard by 7 - tough battle as always, thank God not at Franklin field this year.
Yale by 7 - Elis: win 3 of 4 on road, lose 3 of 4 at home. Tell you what, Yale fans, I'll pull for you to keep true to those trends--you can take this week down in New Jersey, and we'll take next week in New Haven. Deal?
Columbia by 3 - Early season promise evaporated for both squads, but somebody's bound to feel better this week. Maybe a few people will even see it.
Brown by 14 - Nice to see Dartmouth get those elusive wins, but Brown's awfully good.

[brownbear]

Harvard by 3
Yale by 7
Cornell by 4
Brown by 17

[Bogus Megapardus]

Sportsbook for Week 11 . . . .


Pennsylvania at Harvard

Pennsylvania +1½ Over 33½
Harvard -1½ Under 33½

Lafayette at Holy Cross

Lafayette +3 Over 59
Holy Cross -3 Under 59

Columbia at Cornell

Columbia -3 Under 43
Cornell +3 Under 43

Dartmouth at Brown

Dartmouth +15 Over 50
Brown -15 Under 50

Richmond at Georgetown

Richmond -41 Over 46½
Georgetown +41 Under 46½

Yale at Princeton

Yale -7½ Over 32
Princeton +7½ Under 32

Bucknell at Colgate

Bucknell +21½ Over 51½
Colgate -21½ Under 51½

Lehigh at Fordham

Lehigh +5 Over 44
Fordham -5 Under 44


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[Ivytalk]

Sportsbook for Week 11 . . . .


Pennsylvania at Harvard

Pennsylvania +1½ Over 33½
Harvard -1½ Under 33½

Lafayette at Holy Cross

Lafayette +3 Over 59
Holy Cross -3 Under 59

Columbia at Cornell

Columbia -3 Under 43
Cornell +3 Under 43

Dartmouth at Brown

Dartmouth +15 Over 50
Brown -15 Under 50

Richmond at Georgetown

Richmond -41 Over 46½
Georgetown +41 Under 46½

Yale at Princeton

Yale -7½ Over 32
Princeton +7½ Under 32

Bucknell at Colgate

Bucknell +21½ Over 51½
Colgate -21½ Under 51½

Lehigh at Fordham

Lehigh +5 Over 44
Fordham -5 Under 44


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Wow, the bettors see Harvard-Penn as a real tossup. Not surprised. I'm tempted to take the "under." And Cornell is a 3-point home dog against Columbia. Who knew?

And where's that Williams-Amherst spread?:p

[Bogus Megapardus]

Wow, the bettors see Harvard-Penn as a real tossup. Not surprised. I'm tempted to take the "under." And Cornell is a 3-point home dog against Columbia. Who knew?

And where's that Williams-Amherst spread?:p

I wouldn't take the under on Penn/Harvard but I think the Dartmouth/Brown is too high.

Still searching for any legitimate Williams/Amherst odds - scouring the UK books soon. The problem is that NESCAC teams play a completely insular schedule so there are no OOC objective comparatives.

Amherst:

Hamilton * W, 21-12
Bowdoin * W, 13-12
Middlebury * W, 20-10
Colby * W, 23-13
Wesleyan * W, 23-0
Tufts * W, 13-3
Trinity * W, 23-12
at Williams *


Williams:

Colby * W, 23-19
Trinity * L, 26-21
Bates * W, 31-7
Middlebury * W, 37-27
Tufts * W, 30-7
Hamilton * W, 42-0
Wesleyan * W, 34-7
Amherst *

I'd call it Amherst -3 based on common opponents, but the game is in Williamstown, so it's probably a pick.

[Ivytalk]

I wouldn't take the under on Penn/Harvard but I think the Dartmouth/Brown is too high.

Still searching for any legitimate Williams/Amherst odds - scouring the UK books soon. The problem is that NESCAC teams play a completely insular schedule so there are no OOC objective comparatives.

Amherst:

Hamilton * W, 21-12
Bowdoin * W, 13-12
Middlebury * W, 20-10
Colby * W, 23-13
Wesleyan * W, 23-0
Tufts * W, 13-3
Trinity * W, 23-12
at Williams *


Williams:

Colby * W, 23-19
Trinity * L, 26-21
Bates * W, 31-7
Middlebury * W, 37-27
Tufts * W, 30-7
Hamilton * W, 42-0
Wesleyan * W, 34-7
Amherst *

I'd call it Amherst -3 based on common opponents, but the game is in Williamstown, so it's probably a pick.

Looks like the Amherst D against the Williams O. If it's at Williams, I'll go with the home team. Hasn't Williams pretty much dominated this series over the last 20 years?

I'm also leaning toward the over in the Harvard-Penn game. I see a 20-17 Harvard win.

[Phil B]

I got Columbia by 7 this week. Good day for a strong comeback leading up to Brown in the following week. Turnovers won't be a problem this week for CU.

[DJOM]

Saturday's game will be the 132nd meeting between Princeton and Yale. Since their first meeting in 1873, these teams have combined for more than 1,600 victories, 42 national championships and all three Heisman Trophies won by Ivy League players.

[Bogus Megapardus]

Saturday's game will be the 132nd meeting between Princeton and Yale. Since their first meeting in 1873, these teams have combined for more than 1,600 victories, 42 national championships and all three Heisman Trophies won by Ivy League players.

Yeah, Yeah, been there, done that, but you're skirting the issue - Are the Tigers going to take the Elohim this Saturday?

[bulldog10jw]

Saturday's game will be the 132nd meeting between Princeton and Yale. Since their first meeting in 1873, these teams have combined for more than 1,600 victories, 42 national championships and all three Heisman Trophies won by Ivy League players.

There was a time when Princeton was considered the "team to beat" by Yale, especially in the '50's and through most of the '60's.

Harvard's fortunes were mostly down at that time and Princeton had six game win streaks against Yale in the beginning of both of those decades topped off by Cosmo Iacavzzi tossing the ball into the stands 3 times after scoring TD's in the '64 matchup of Ivy unbeatens.

I think Yale winning 14 straight starting in '67 really ruined the rivalry, from a Yale perspective anyway.

[Bogus Megapardus]

Guesses for this weekend:

Brown over Dartmouth, 38 to 17

Columbia over Cornell, 28 to 24

Harvard over Penn, 21 to 14

Yale over Princeton, 24 to 10

[jimbo65]

Sportsbook for Week 11 . . . .




Richmond -41 Over 46½
Georgetown +41 Under 46½



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A math major I certainly am not but when you look at the above lines, the oddsmakers are saying that the best the Hoyas can expect is a 47-0 score.
Were I to bet, would take Hoyas. Heck, the Richmond coach could be merciful.

My Rams may well beat Lehigh and I will be there unless the weather is awful, but I would not give the points. If we are fortunate to win, my guess is the spread will be more than 5. Personally I view the game as even and were it on the road, would lean to Lehigh. Perhaps that is a learned response from all the difficulties we have had with Lehigh in the past but I do not have a good feeling.

[Bogus Megapardus]

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[Go...gate]

There was a time when Princeton was considered the "team to beat" by Yale, especially in the '50's and through most of the '60's.

Harvard's fortunes were mostly down at that time and Princeton had six game win streaks against Yale in the beginning of both of those decades topped off by Cosmo Iacavzzi tossing the ball into the stands 3 times after scoring TD's in the '64 matchup of Ivy unbeatens.

I think Yale winning 14 straight starting in '67 really ruined the rivalry, from a Yale perspective anyway.

Yale did more than win in those years. The games were never close. Cozza, in general, made it his business to beat Princeton.

[bulldog10jw]

Yale did more than win in those years. The games were never close. Cozza, in general, made it his business to beat Princeton.

There were some close ones at the beginning of the streak. If I remember correctly Yale won 17-14 in 69, 27-22 in '70, and 10-6 in '71. After that, not so close.

I should have mentioned that Iacavazzi's tosses were at the Bowl. THAT did not go over well and in '67 Brian Dowling made a pregame vow to toss one in the stands at Princeton.....and did. THAT is the kind of stuff that makes for a great rivalry.

[Go...gate]

There were some close ones at the beginning of the streak. If I remember correctly Yale won 17-14 in 69, 27-22 in '70, and 10-6 in '71. After that, not so close.

My bad - you are correct. McCandless went for a tie in '69 and Holtberg missed the field goal, and the '70-71 two games were also good.

[YaleFootballFan]

I think Yale winning 14 straight starting in '67 really ruined the rivalry, from a Yale perspective anyway.

Maybe so, but that loss in '81 - the one that broke the streak and cost Yale a perfect 10-0 season - still stings to this day.

[bulldog10jw]

Maybe so, but that loss in '81 - the one that broke the streak and cost Yale a perfect 10-0 season - still stings to this day.

I blame Carm.

[bonarae]

All Final Scores:

Penn 17, Harvard 7 - hmmm... xchinscratchx

Brown 14, Dartmouth 7

Columbia 30, Cornell 20 - what a way to end the slide!

Princeton 24, Yale 17

[Bogus Megapardus]

Congrats to the Quakers. What happened in this game?

[Go...gate]

Maybe so, but that loss in '81 - the one that broke the streak and cost Yale a perfect 10-0 season - still stings to this day.

One of the greatest football games I've ever seen, but a tragedy for Yale. Last chance the Ivy had for a Top 20 I-A program.

[ngineer]

All Final Scores:

Penn 17, Harvard 7 - hmmm... xchinscratchx

Brown 14, Dartmouth 7

Columbia 30, Cornell 20 - what a way to end the slide!

Princeton 24, Yale 17

Too bad about the duck ***** from the Quackers....Hate to see them win...xsmhx

[Sader87]

So does Lafayette or HC win the Ivy by proxy this year? HC beat Lafayette but the Pards beat Penn and Brown beat HC.

FWIW...speaking of Yale '81, one of the greatest games I've ever seen was the Yale-HC game that year...Yale eked it out at Fitton 29-28...just a classic, classic contest.

[bulldog10jw]

So does Lafayette or HC win the Ivy by proxy this year? HC beat Lafayette but the Pards beat Penn and Brown beat HC.

FWIW...speaking of Yale '81, one of the greatest games I've ever seen was the Yale-HC game that year...Yale eked it out at Fitton 29-28...just a classic, classic contest.

I was there as well. Great game. Yale's first game ever in Worcester, I believe.