Ivy League Week 8

[bonarae]

Saturday, November 7
Harvard at Columbia
Cornell at Dartmouth
Brown at Yale
Princeton at Penn

Harvard by 17
Cornell by 21+
Brown by 6
Penn by 13

[Ivytalk]

Harvard by 12
Dartmouth by 3
Yale by 4
Penn by 14

[Green26]

Dartmouth over Cornell. I'll be in attendance.

[bulldog10jw]

Harvard at Columbia - I think it will be close

Cornell at Dartmouth - Going in opposite directions

Brown at Yale - Yale's D has been slipping

Princeton at Penn - but a Princeton win would not shock me

[DJOM]

Princeton is on a roll. They are keeping their winning streak alive this week at Penn. Defense steps it up a notch. Princeton by 10.

[Ivytalk]

Princeton is on a roll. They are keeping their winning streak alive this week at Penn. Defense steps it up a notch. Princeton by 10.

I mean this oh, so politely, DJOM, but...


ARE YOU ON CRACK?xconfusedx

[DJOM]

No, it'll happen. Defense takes control and offense opens up this week.

[Go...gate]

Sorry, DJOM. I love the Tigers, but I'm not seeing it. Penn may win by 2-3 touchdowns.

[DJOM]

In my humble opinion--now there's a contradiction in terms--The Tigers have one of the finest defensive units in Ivy. Problem is they have spent far too much time on the field. Offense has gone 3 and out far too many times; defense gets tired, opponents win. Finally saw offense going north and south instead of east and west last week. Offense needs to open it up, continue to go north-south and put those one yard gain bubble screens on the scrap heap.

Defense wins championships, but they can not be on the field for 80% of a game.

[Franks Tanks]

In my humble opinion--now there's a contradiction in terms--The Tigers have one of the finest defensive units in Ivy. Problem is they have spent far too much time on the field. Offense has gone 3 and out far too many times; defense gets tired, opponents win. Finally saw offense going north and south instead of east and west last week. Offense needs to open it up, continue to go north-south and put those one yard gain bubble screens on the scrap heap.

Defense wins championships, but they can not be on the field for 80% of a game.

Princeton may have a quality D, but the Penn D is better. Penn all the way

[Ivytalk]

I'll be shocked if the Harvard-Columbia attendance reaches 3,000, especially now that the Lions are out of the race. Two years ago, the game drew around 2,500, and most of them were Crimson fans.This year's Yale-Columbia crowd didn't reach 3,000 either.

[bulldog10jw]

There might be a decent crowd for Brown - Yale but, of course, weather is the biggest factor in Ivy League attendance.

"Fair weather fans" is just another name for IL football followers.

[GoneTribal]

Harvard at Columbia 24-10

Cornell at Dartmouth 13-21

Brown at Yale 31-17

Princeton at Penn 10-28

[Ivytalk]

There might be a decent crowd for Brown - Yale but, of course, weather is the biggest factor in Ivy League attendance.

"Fair weather fans" is just another name for IL football followers.

Ah, bulldog, kids aren't what they used to be. Remember that huge crowd that filled the Bowl for the '81 H-Y Game, despite the monsoon?

I was one of the soaked attendees. Harvard got trounced. Crappy day!:o

[bulldog10jw]

Ah, bulldog, kids aren't what they used to be. Remember that huge crowd that filled the Bowl for the '81 H-Y Game, despite the monsoon?

I was one of the soaked attendees. Harvard got trounced. Crappy day!:o

Biggest crowd at the Bowl in my lifetime. 75,000 I believe.

Did it rain that day? xlolx

[Bogus Megapardus]

This week's Sportsbook:

Cornell at Dartmouth

Cornell +6
Dartmouth -6

Harvard at Columbia

Harvard -7
Columbia +7

Holy Cross at Lehigh

Holy Cross -9½
Lehigh +9½

Brown at Yale

Brown -1½
Yale +1½

Colgate at Lafayette

Colgate +7½
Lafayette -7½

Bucknell at Fordham

Bucknell +17½
Fordham -17½

Georgetown at Marist

Georgetown +11½
Marist -11½

Princeton at Pennsylvania

Princeton +22½
Pennsylvania -22½


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[Ivytalk]

This week's Sportsbook:

Cornell at Dartmouth

Cornell +6
Dartmouth -6

Harvard at Columbia

Harvard -7
Columbia +7

Holy Cross at Lehigh

Holy Cross -9½
Lehigh +9½

Brown at Yale

Brown -1½
Yale +1½

Colgate at Lafayette

Colgate +7½
Lafayette -7½

Bucknell at Fordham

Bucknell +17½
Fordham -17½

Georgetown at Marist

Georgetown +11½
Marist -11½

Princeton at Pennsylvania

Princeton +22½
Pennsylvania -22½


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If I were a betting man, I'd take those points on Penn-Princeton. The spread assumes that Penn can actually score 22 points in a league game.xcoolx

[Harvard Worship]

Cornell by 3 over Dartmouth
Harvard by 10 over Columbia
Brown by 7 over Yale
Penn by 10 over Princeton

[Bogus Megapardus]

Sportsbook update: Harvard and Brown bettors are pushing the lines.

Harvard/Columbia now is at -8

Brown/Yale now is at -2

All other Ivy & PL odds remain stable.

[DJOM]

"IL fair weather fans?"

I gotta agree with ya Bulldog--Football fans aren't what they used to be.

We are from the great state that brought the country Blago. I have sat thru more games in nasty weather than I can recall---LeHeigh v Drake last year during the tail end of the hurricane comes to mind.

Football is a game designed to be played outdoors, in the elements, etc. Enjoy the weekend. I'll be heading west this weekend.

[Ivytalk]

Sportsbook update: Harvard and Brown bettors are pushing the lines.
Harvard/Columbia now is at -8

Brown/Yale now is at -2

All other Ivy & PL odds remain stable.

Both of them? :p

[Bogus Megapardus]

Both of them? :p

My bad - it was the same guy betting both games.

[bulldog10jw]

"IL fair weather fans?"

I gotta agree with ya Bulldog--Football fans aren't what they used to be.

We are from the great state that brought the country Blago. I have sat thru more games in nasty weather than I can recall---LeHeigh v Drake last year during the tail end of the hurricane comes to mind.

Football is a game designed to be played outdoors, in the elements, etc. Enjoy the weekend. I'll be heading west this weekend.

DJOM. I remember one game at Palmer Stadium, it must have been '85 or '87, when I sat on those concrete seats in the pouring rain watching Y-P. My wife was waiting in the car with the heater on because it was just this side of being a freezing rain and she is also pretty smart.

The water was just pouring down in waves like a waterfall over the seats and aisles.

I would probably watch on TV now. That's the difference between being in your 30's and being in your 50's.

[Ivytalk]

DJOM. I remember one game at Palmer Stadium, it must have been '85 or '87, when I sat on those concrete seats in the pouring rain watching Y-P. My wife was waiting in the car with the heater on because it was just this side of being a freezing rain and she is also pretty smart.

The water was just pouring down in waves like a waterfall over the seats and aisles.

I would probably watch on TV now. That's the difference between being in your 30's and being in your 50's.

I had the same experience at Palmer when Harvard played there and lost on a rainy afternoon in 1992 or 1994. I stuck around until Harvard finally scored late in the game, and then I plodded back to my father-in-law's parking space at Cap and Gown for a "pop."xlolx

[Ivytalk]

This thread proves that nobody reminisces as well as Ivy League Old Pharts!:p

"I'm just an ILOP! Leave me alone!":D

[bulldog10jw]

This thread proves that nobody reminisces as well as Ivy League Old Pharts!:p

"I'm just an ILOP! Leave me alone!":D

And the older we get, the better it was in the "olden days". xlolx ;)

[brownbear]

Harvard by 24
Cornell by 7
Brown by 4
Penn by 17

[Bogus Megapardus]

Harvard 28 Columbia 17
Yale 21 Brown 17
Penn 28 Princeton 0
Dartmouth 28 Cornell 24

[centraljerseycat]

Dartmouth over Cornell?
How does Buddy Teevens keep his job? He's 29-107 over the past 13 years as a head coach while running three programs-Tulane, Stanford and now Dartmouth into the ground. xeyebrowx

[Bogus Megapardus]

Dartmouth over Cornell?


Yale/Brown is the game of the week, but I'm convinced that Dartmouth/Cornell is the upset special. Come on - Big Green finally won one, and now they need to start getting on roll. Several of the predictor algorithms are leaning Green as well; I concede that they influenced my pick on this one.

[Ivytalk]

Yale/Brown is the game of the week, but I'm convinced that Dartmouth/Cornell is the upset special. Come on - Big Green finally won one, and now they need to start getting on roll. Several of the predictor algorithms are leaning Green as well; I concede that they influenced my pick on this one.

Now THAT'S an Ivy League term!:p

Meh. I just go with my gut! That's a biorhythm, not an algorithm.:p

Did Al Gore invent the algorithm?xlolx

[Bogus Megapardus]

Did Al Gore invent the algorithm?xlolx

No, but I believe it was on the original Buzzword Bingo card when he gave that infamous speech at Sloan.

[bonarae]

Dartmouth over Cornell?
How does Buddy Teevens keep his job? He's 29-107 over the past 13 years as a head coach while running three programs-Tulane, Stanford and now Dartmouth into the ground. xeyebrowx

That's the same question I was thinking. Also, with Teevens' record such as that, can you compare him to any of the Indiana State and/or Savannah State head coaches during this period? As for the playoff-eligible schools with periodical losing records, do they fire head coaches periodically? Why is Dartmouth not noticing until it's way too late? xcoffeex (Remember John Lyons.)

[Go...gate]

DJOM. I remember one game at Palmer Stadium, it must have been '85 or '87, when I sat on those concrete seats in the pouring rain watching Y-P. My wife was waiting in the car with the heater on because it was just this side of being a freezing rain and she is also pretty smart.

The water was just pouring down in waves like a waterfall over the seats and aisles.

I would probably watch on TV now. That's the difference between being in your 30's and being in your 50's.

That was the 1985 game. Awful conditions and the old scoreboard quit working. I can remember helping out several friends at Cloister Inn pushing a number of cars which were up to their axles in the mud in the club's parking area. The upside was drying/thawing out in front of the fireplace at Cloister after the game, which Princeton won. Good company, adult beverages, and plenty of firewood.

[VT Wildcat Fan53]

Harvard 24 at Columbia 21 (OT) :D "almost" upset of the week, but Coach Murph and crew get it done.
Cornell 9 at Dartmouth 10 xrulesx Coach Teevens truly NEEDS this one and his boys oblige, ... barely
Brown 25 at Yale 14 xthumbsupx Bears get back on track and even score a couple of offensive TD's
Princeton 0 at Penn 21 xbowx Quakers D is for real

[Bogus Megapardus]

Sportsbook O/U on all Ivy/PL games:


Cornell at Dartmouth 50

Harvard at Columbia 45.5

Holy Cross at Lehigh 49

Brown at Yale 35.5

Colgate at Lafayette 48

Bucknell at Fordham 53

Georgetown at Marist 29

Princeton at Pennsylvania 30.5

[Ivytalk]

Sportsbook O/U on all Ivy/PL games:


Cornell at Dartmouth 50

Harvard at Columbia 45.5

Holy Cross at Lehigh 49

Brown at Yale 35.5

Colgate at Lafayette 48

Bucknell at Fordham 53

Georgetown at Marist 29

Princeton at Pennsylvania 30.5

I'll take the "under" on the last two!:D

[Ivytalk]

Looking more and more like Harvard-Penn next week will decide the outright Ivy winner this year.xnodx

[bulldog10jw]

The box score said there was 16,228 people in the Bowl today. They certainly managed to hide from the TV cameras.

[bonarae]

All Final Scores:
Harvard 34, Columbia 14
Dartmouth 20, Cornell 17
Brown 35, Yale 21
Penn 42, Princeton 7

[Bogus Megapardus]

. . . and Big Green pulls it off! Who wudda thunk?

[brownbear]

The box score said there was 16,228 people in the Bowl today. They certainly managed to hide from the TV cameras.

Seemed like that in person. Beautiful day, with good-sized crowds from both schools. Great game as well. I don't know what was new at the Yale Bowl that was being unveiled today; it looked about the same it looked two years ago, when it looked really good as well.

[Harvard Worship]

Looking more and more like Harvard-Penn next week will decide the outright Ivy winner this year.xnodx

Yup, looking like it. Should be a great game!

[YaleFootballFan]

Seemed like that in person. Beautiful day, with good-sized crowds from both schools. Great game as well. I don't know what was new at the Yale Bowl that was being unveiled today; it looked about the same it looked two years ago, when it looked really good as well.

The Kenney Center and Jensen Plaza at Yale Bowl opened on Saturday. It's the final phase of the $30 million restoration of Yale Bowl. I got a tour of the facility on Saturday and its very impressive.

Kenney Center, Jensen Plaza at Yale Bowl Opens Saturday (http://www.yalebulldogs.com/sports/m-footbl/2009-10/releases/20091102voday7)

[YaleFootballFan]

DJOM. I remember one game at Palmer Stadium, it must have been '85 or '87, when I sat on those concrete seats in the pouring rain watching Y-P. My wife was waiting in the car with the heater on because it was just this side of being a freezing rain and she is also pretty smart.

The water was just pouring down in waves like a waterfall over the seats and aisles.

I would probably watch on TV now. That's the difference between being in your 30's and being in your 50's.

That was '85.

As much as that stadium was a dump, I always liked old Palmer Stadium.

[Green26]

Dartmouth's star was frosh Greg Patton, a frosh who had been plucked off the JV team to run some option stuff in the game. He had never played a down for the varsity. He didn't start. He probably didn't play much more than half of the offensive plays--certainly not 2/3 of them.

243 yards in 29 carries, breaking the team game rushing record, which had been set several weeks earlier.

Dartmouth's starting qb and star running back are both out for the season (as of the past several weeks), and other injuries are mounting up. Junior captain qb and receiver, McManus, was injured just before the season started and will miss the season. The top receiver, Reilly no. 84, is now back from injury, and he's a terrific player with great hands.

Cornell's kicker missed a fairly short FG early on, and had a potential game winning FG blocked at the end of regulation. Neither team looked especially strong, but it was a big win for Dartmouth.

Dartmouth's 1971 Ivy championship team was honored at halftime. A call was placed to former Cornell star Ed Marinaro immediately after the game. He said losing was hard enough, but having to put up with calls from the Dartmouth guys was harder. He has a new TV series starting in early January: Blue Mountain State, on Spike TV. He plays a football coach.