10/26/09 Sports Network Poll

[bluehenbillk]

1. Richmond Spiders (128) 7-0 3,409 1
2. Montana Grizzlies (7) 7-0 3,255 2
3. Southern Illinois Salukis (2) 6-1 3,165 3
4. Villanova Wildcats (1) 7-1 3,013 4
5. William & Mary Tribe 6-1 2,797 5
6. Elon Phoenix 6-1 2,619 7
7. Appalachian State Mountaineers 5-2 2,536 8
8. New Hampshire Wildcats 6-1 2,386 9
9. South Dakota State Jackrabbits 6-1 2,279 11
10. South Carolina State Bulldogs (1) 6-1 2,105 10
11. Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks 6-1 1,915 15
12. Northern Iowa Panthers 5-3 1,845 6
13. McNeese State Cowboys 5-2 1,824 13
14. Weber State Wildcats 5-3 1,566 16
15. Central Arkansas Bears 5-2 1,443 18
16. Delaware Blue Hens 5-2 1,220 19
17. Holy Cross Crusaders 6-1 985 22
18. Cal Poly Mustangs 4-3 970 20
19. Massachusetts Minutemen 4-3 866 14
20. Eastern Illinois Panthers 6-2 798 25
21. Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 5-2 703 24
22. Jacksonville State Gamecocks 4-3 689 13
23. Liberty Flames 5-2 666 23
24. Colgate Raiders 7-1 509 17
25. Prairie View A&M Panthers 5-1 269 NR
Others receiving votes: Eastern Washington 240, Florida A&M 228, Lafayette 194, Eastern Kentucky 87, UC Davis 62, Albany 58, Harvard 46, Butler 41, Montana State 40, Penn 39, Missouri State 37, Central Connecticut State 32, Rhode Island 24, Brown 23, Gardner-Webb 23, Grambling 23, Tennessee State 20, Furman 15, Northern Colorado 15, Southern Utah 15, Morgan State 11, Jacksonville 10, James Madison 10, Old Dominion 10, Southeastern Louisiana 10, Texas State 7, Lehigh 5, Drake 4, Austin Peay 3, Tennessee Tech 2, Youngstown State 2, Alabama State 1, Dayton 1, Georgia Southern 1, Southern 1, Tennessee-Martin 1, The Citadel 1, Wofford 1.

[ToTheLeft]

This poll is such a joke... the ORV's are flatout embarassing.

[Edge316007]

I can understand Richmond and Montana (and to a lesser extent, SIU and Nova) getting first place votes, but SCSU? Someone who does this for a living really believes they are the best team in the division?

[andy7171]

Go Rhody! 1-6 and receiving 24 votes!

[JMUNJ08]

Others receiving votes: Eastern Washington 240, Florida A&M 228, Lafayette 194, Eastern Kentucky 87, UC Davis 62, Albany 58, Harvard 46, Butler 41, Montana State 40, Penn 39, Missouri State 37, Central Connecticut State 32, Rhode Island 24, Brown 23, Gardner-Webb 23, Grambling 23, Tennessee State 20, Furman 15, Northern Colorado 15, Southern Utah 15, Morgan State 11, Jacksonville 10, James Madison 10, Old Dominion 10, Southeastern Louisiana 10, Texas State 7, Lehigh 5, Drake 4, Austin Peay 3, Tennessee Tech 2, Youngstown State 2, Alabama State 1, Dayton 1, Georgia Southern 1, Southern 1, Tennessee-Martin 1, The Citadel 1, Wofford 1.

RHODE ISLAND??????? They have 14 more votes than JMU and 24 more than they should have. That is the biggest JOKE i have every seen. Did they mix them up with Northeastern??? They had a big win against a top CAA foexreadx

JMU and ODU would be a good game right about now.

[89Hen]

This poll is such a joke... the ORV's are flatout embarassing.
I don't even bother reading 1-25... I start immediately at the ORV. Comic relief for the day.

Rhode Island 24, Brown 23, Grambling 23, Tennessee State 20, Northern Colorado 15, Jacksonville 10, Lehigh 5, Drake 4.... xlolx

[WestCoastAggie]

All jokes aside, why should we be concerned about the orv section of the polls. You all do realize that the voters are going to be homers and vote for their conference? Wrong or right, they do it and it doesn't seem it would change. All polls are subjective and will have bias, whether east-coast, west-coast, hbcu, pwc etc...

Now back to the jokes:
1. Good Job Rhode Island! xlolx
2. And to that voter for SC State in 1st place, kudos, xlolx kudos! xlolx

[iceman4221]

I can understand Richmond and Montana (and to a lesser extent, SIU and Nova) getting first place votes, but SCSU? Someone who does this for a living really believes they are the best team in the division?

xnodx Yep! xnodx

[putter]

All jokes aside, why should we be concerned about the orv section of the polls. You all do realize that the voters are going to be homers and vote for their conference? Wrong or right, they do it and it doesn't seem it would change. All polls are subjective and will have bias, whether east-coast, west-coast, hbcu, pwc etc...

Now back to the jokes:
1. Good Job Rhode Island! xlolx
2. And to that voter for SC State in 1st place, kudos, xlolx kudos! xlolx

... and that is sad. If you are going to vote in the poll you need to be objective as possible. Does anyone really think that SC St. is a #1 team? No bashing and I think they are a good team but #1....stretching a little don't you think?

[bosshogg]

I love SCSU, but I am realistic...the person who gave us a vote must have been voting along the same lines that spurrier was when he used to give Duke a vote all those years....

[BlackNGold]

xnodx Yep! xnodx

Come back up to The Rock

we'll see if your still noddin that head

[WestCoastAggie]

... and that is sad. If you are going to vote in the poll you need to be objective as possible. Does anyone really think that SC St. is a #1 team? No bashing and I think they are a good team but #1....stretching a little don't you think?
The person who placed first in his poll did, apparently. xeyebrowx xlolxxlolxxlolx

[Bogus Megapardus]

I see that Colgate has moved up in some polls this week. Way to go, 'Gate.

[grizzpaw]

is someone trying to make the poll look bad ?

[Monarch Nation]

I can see why they gave us 10 votes, we're champions of the Hostess League for 2009.

[Dukie95]

I don't know if bluehenbillk is playing a joke on us or if they've changed it, but Rhode Island isn't in the ORV on the site.

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/misc/TSN-DIV-1AA-POLL.htm

SCState does actually have a #1 vote, however.

[footballer23]

How can this poll even be legitimate with teams like Rhode Island and Northern Colorado getting votes?

[danefan]

I don't know if bluehenbillk is playing a joke on us or if they've changed it, but Rhode Island isn't in the ORV on the site.

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/misc/TSN-DIV-1AA-POLL.htm

SCState does actually have a #1 vote, however.

haha. Oh Coulson.

TSN Poll has solidified itself below Pete's Power Poll.

[bluehenbillk]

I don't know if bluehenbillk is playing a joke on us or if they've changed it, but Rhode Island isn't in the ORV on the site.

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/misc/TSN-DIV-1AA-POLL.htm

SCState does actually have a #1 vote, however.

They must've changed it, I just cut & paste.

[89Hen]

All jokes aside, why should we be concerned about the orv section of the polls.
Seriously? Becuase it shows a lot of their voters are complete idiots or jerks that don't take it seriously. You don't think if I voted for...


1. Richmond
2. Montana
3. Lehigh
4. Southern Illinois
5. Jacksonville
etc...


that would compromise the results?

[Uncle Buck]

They must've changed it, I just cut & paste.

Still has JMU getting votes while my self-destructing Hofstra team that beat them is now off the list. ORV is always a good laugh though. Maybe they were shamed into removing URI, that really made me go xeekx

[89Hen]

One thing I could suggest to the SN Poll is they start doing the ORV's like AGS does. 1-25 are strictly points, but ORV's only make the list if they are on at least 5 ballots. So if one person votes Rhode Island at #2... they wouldn't even appear on AGS where on SN they'd appear with 24 points. xpeacex

[Uncle Buck]

One thing I could suggest to the SN Poll is they start doing the ORV's like AGS does. 1-25 are strictly points, but ORV's only make the list if they are on at least 5 ballots. So if one person votes Rhode Island at #2... they wouldn't even appear on AGS where on SN they'd appear with 24 points. xpeacex

Makes sense to me

[WestCoastAggie]

Don't you all realize that the voters are using this as an opportunity to get publicity for their teams!

[TexasTerror]

TSN posted a poll, e-mailed it out and then followed suit with a correction.

Case closed.

[Dukie95]

Could have been an honest mistake. Maybe it was a number 2 vote for UR, not URI.

Edit: Yep...the number of points for UR also went up by 24 on the new list.

[danefan]

TSN posted a poll, e-mailed it out and then followed suit with a correction.

Case closed.

Maybe they should send another one after they take out the Lehigh votes?

[panther25]

haha. Oh Coulson.

TSN Poll has solidified itself below Pete's Power Poll.

I wouldn't insult pete like that


1 Richmond Colonial
2 Montana Big Sky
3 New Hampshire Colonial
4 Southern Illinois MVFC
5 Villanova Colonial
6 S. Carolina St. Mid-Eastern
7 South Dakota State MVFC
8 Northern Iowa MVFC
9 Massachusetts Colonial
10 Elon Southern
11 William & Mary Colonial
12 Colgate Patriot
13 McNeese State Southland
14 Appalachian State Southern
15 Holy Cross Patriot
16 Jacksonville State Ohio Valley
17 Stephen F. Austin Southland
18 Central Arkansas Southland
18 Liberty Big South
20 Cal-Poly Great West
21 Weber State Big Sky
22 Eastern Washington Big Sky
23 Eastern Kentucky Ohio Valley
24 Northern Arizona Big Sky
25 Delaware Colonial
26 Missouri State MVFC
27 Lafayette Patriot
28 Eastern Illinois Ohio Valley
30 James Madison Colonial
30 Youngstown State MVFC
31 Furman Southern
32 Florida A&M Mid-Eastern
33 Montana State Big Sky
34 Southern Utah Great West
35 Georgia Southern Southern
36 Hofstra Colonial
37 Southeastern Louisiana Southland
38 Morgan State Mid-Eastern
39 Illinois State MVFC
40 Hampton Mid-Eastern
41 UC-Davis Great West
42 Texas State Southland
43 Gardner-Webb Big South
44 Chattanooga Southern
45 Tennessee State Ohio Valley
46 Old Dominion Indy
47 Sam Houston State Southland
48 Coastal Carolina Big South
49 Tennessee-Martin Ohio Valley
50 Fordham Patriot



Coulson and the lack of an audit has single handedly taken himself to the joke of the FCS poll world. First of all TSN's poll has been around for more than a year and already the CS.com poll has had less trouble getting one out than he does. This is now his second retraction because his poll looks like 13 people throw a dart a wall and everyone else uses some form of Ouigi board/tarot cards/knowledge (no offense to the knowledgeable voters that take part)

[WestCoastAggie]

I wouldn't insult pete like that


1 Richmond Colonial
2 Montana Big Sky
3 New Hampshire Colonial
4 Southern Illinois MVFC
5 Villanova Colonial
6 S. Carolina St. Mid-Eastern
7 South Dakota State MVFC
8 Northern Iowa MVFC
9 Massachusetts Colonial
10 Elon Southern
11 William & Mary Colonial
12 Colgate Patriot
13 McNeese State Southland
14 Appalachian State Southern
15 Holy Cross Patriot
16 Jacksonville State Ohio Valley
17 Stephen F. Austin Southland
18 Central Arkansas Southland
18 Liberty Big South
20 Cal-Poly Great West
21 Weber State Big Sky
22 Eastern Washington Big Sky
23 Eastern Kentucky Ohio Valley
24 Northern Arizona Big Sky
25 Delaware Colonial
26 Missouri State MVFC
27 Lafayette Patriot
28 Eastern Illinois Ohio Valley
30 James Madison Colonial
30 Youngstown State MVFC
31 Furman Southern
32 Florida A&M Mid-Eastern
33 Montana State Big Sky
34 Southern Utah Great West
35 Georgia Southern Southern
36 Hofstra Colonial
37 Southeastern Louisiana Southland
38 Morgan State Mid-Eastern
39 Illinois State MVFC
40 Hampton Mid-Eastern
41 UC-Davis Great West
42 Texas State Southland
43 Gardner-Webb Big South
44 Chattanooga Southern
45 Tennessee State Ohio Valley
46 Old Dominion Indy
47 Sam Houston State Southland
48 Coastal Carolina Big South
49 Tennessee-Martin Ohio Valley
50 Fordham Patriot



Coulson and the lack of an audit has single handedly taken himself to the joke of the FCS poll world. First of all TSN's poll has been around for more than a year and already the CS.com poll has had less trouble getting one out than he does. This is now his second retraction because his poll looks like 13 people throw a dart a wall and everyone else uses some form of Ouigi board/tarot cards/knowledge (no offense to the knowledgeable voters that take part)

The only "questionable" parts of this poll are Colgate even being in the poll & South Carolina State being 4-6 spots too high.

[danefan]

The only "questionable" parts of this poll are Colgate even being in the poll & South Carolina State being 4-6 spots too high.

Of the TSN or Pete's? Pete's is perfect. xsmiley_wix

The TSN top 25 isn't horrendous, but when you see the OVR's it takes away from the validity of the Top 25 itself.

In the back of my mind I know there is someone out there that is voting for teams like Butler and Lehigh. That makes what could otherwise be a decent poll look downright silly.

[downbythebeach]

i didnt realize The Onion had a weekly FCS poll.

[danefan]

i didnt realize The Onion had a weekly FCS poll.

xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolx

[NDB]

I wouldn't insult pete like that


1 Richmond Colonial
2 Montana Big Sky
3 New Hampshire Colonial
4 Southern Illinois MVFC
5 Villanova Colonial
6 S. Carolina St. Mid-Eastern
7 South Dakota State MVFC
8 Northern Iowa MVFC
9 Massachusetts Colonial
10 Elon Southern
11 William & Mary Colonial
12 Colgate Patriot
13 McNeese State Southland
14 Appalachian State Southern
15 Holy Cross Patriot
16 Jacksonville State Ohio Valley
17 Stephen F. Austin Southland
18 Central Arkansas Southland
18 Liberty Big South
20 Cal-Poly Great West
21 Weber State Big Sky
22 Eastern Washington Big Sky
23 Eastern Kentucky Ohio Valley
24 Northern Arizona Big Sky
25 Delaware Colonial
26 Missouri State MVFC
27 Lafayette Patriot
28 Eastern Illinois Ohio Valley
30 James Madison Colonial
30 Youngstown State MVFC
31 Furman Southern
32 Florida A&M Mid-Eastern
33 Montana State Big Sky
34 Southern Utah Great West
35 Georgia Southern Southern
36 Hofstra Colonial
37 Southeastern Louisiana Southland
38 Morgan State Mid-Eastern
39 Illinois State MVFC
40 Hampton Mid-Eastern
41 UC-Davis Great West
42 Texas State Southland
43 Gardner-Webb Big South
44 Chattanooga Southern
45 Tennessee State Ohio Valley
46 Old Dominion Indy
47 Sam Houston State Southland
48 Coastal Carolina Big South
49 Tennessee-Martin Ohio Valley
50 Fordham Patriot



Coulson and the lack of an audit has single handedly taken himself to the joke of the FCS poll world. First of all TSN's poll has been around for more than a year and already the CS.com poll has had less trouble getting one out than he does. This is now his second retraction because his poll looks like 13 people throw a dart a wall and everyone else uses some form of Ouigi board/tarot cards/knowledge (no offense to the knowledgeable voters that take part)

Where's NDSU on this poll? Pete is obviously losing it.

[Jackman]

23. Liberty Flames 5-2 666 23


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[SumItUp]

xwhistlex

I was adding the polls to a spreadsheet and that caught my eye too.

[DSUrocks07]

I was adding the polls to a spreadsheet and that caught my eye too.

And you guys are the "Flames" too? xeekx

Liberty is a lock for the playoffs now xlolx

[89Hen]

The TSN top 25 isn't horrendous, but when you see the OVR's it takes away from the validity of the Top 25 itself.
xnodx xnodx xnodx AND the fact that this is the second time they've had to retract a poll this year.

[UNCBears2010]

Who are the morons that gave UNC 15 votes? We suck!