Georgia Southern @ Appalachian State for all the marbles

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

Well...not quite all the marbles, but close. GSU has not given up on at least an at-large bid. If we lose we have little hope of getting there. If App. State loses then they are one loss away from elimination with games against Furman and Elon left to play on the road.

GSU's defense will at least be the best FCS defense they have played all year and possibly the best defense (yes, I know someone will bring up how many points we gave up to UNC versus ECU but just keep in mind that UNC had two defensive touchdowns and two more take-aways in GSU territory). GSU's offense isn't anything scary but it is better than it was early season. And just like the last two times we played App., Hatcher will unleash some things he has cooked up that he is saving for this game. I'm thinking the game will be close, but AE et all will make one more big play than GSU does. xbangx

ASU - 30
GSU - 23 xoopsx

optimistic prediction
GSU - 27
ASU - 24

[ASUG8]

It took a Jayson Foster offensive spectacle to beat us in Boone last time, and you don't have him anymore. I'll take ASU at +14.

[muletrain]

Throw the records out.........it's always close. Each team gets everyones best shot every week. The long range forecast calls for a cold drizzle.

Apps by 8

[OL FU]

Lots of points.

ASU 38
GSU 24

[TheRock21]

App State is just not going to blow teams out by halftime like in the years past. The rest of the games will be within 10 points or less, right now we are just doing enough to win. I'm going with 34-31 ASU. GSU always plays us tough no matter what.

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

It took a Jayson Foster offensive spectacle to beat us in Boone last time, and you don't have him anymore. I'll take ASU at +14.

The difference between that game and this one is that our defense is going to be light-years better than it was in 2007. In 2007 we basically had no depth anywhere other than the DL. I seriously doubt App's offense is any better than it was that year, either.

Our offense is not as good and our defense is better than the UTC game shows. UTC got 7 and GSU got 3 in garbage time. I think this is going to be a low-scoring game and could be the fewest points in a GSU-ASU game in a long time.

[KiddBrewer]

im not good anymore at predicting app scores....but ill try again


App - 38
GSU - 28

[Skjellyfetti]

GSU's defense will at least be the best FCS defense they have played all year and possibly the best defense

Samford's defensive numbers are WAY better than GSU's. And Citadel's are pretty similar to GSU's (though, you are probably right if you take out the SDSU disaster).

I can't really make a prediction in good faith... because, I haven't seen Georgia Southern play this year. But, it will probably be a classic as usual. xnodx Can't wait to get down to Boone.

[biggie]

Key may be how much the couple key losses on GSU's defense from last year affect the ability to stop AE. The white kid last year was around him every play, but he's gone.

Then GSU has said they have the worst O in the land, we say we have the worst D, so we'll see who wins the battle of who sucks less.

[OL FU]

Samford's defensive numbers are WAY better than GSU's. And Citadel's are pretty similar to GSU's (though, you are probably right if you take out the SDSU disaster).

I can't really make a prediction in good faith... because, I haven't seen Georgia Southern play this year. But, it will probably be a classic as usual. xnodx Can't wait to get down to Boone.

xnodx

Per the NCAA after this weekend. Total Defense.


1 Elon 6 348 1201 3.45 10 200.17 5 1 0
2 Penn 5 305 1134 3.72 9 226.80 3 2 0
3 Dayton 6 359 1401 3.90 10 233.50 5 1 0
4 Samford 7 418 1691 4.05 14 241.57 3 4 0 5 Norfolk St. 6 345 1461 4.23 13 243.50 3 3 0
6 Yale 5 295 1241 4.21 8 248.20 3 2 0
7 Drake 6 374 1531 4.09 12 255.17 5 1 0
8 New Hampshire 6 415 1563 3.77 11 260.50 5 1 0
9 Butler 6 401 1566 3.91 14 261.00 6 0 0
10 Morehead St. 7 455 1828 4.02 21 261.14 2 5 0
11 William & Mary 6 362 1571 4.34 15 261.83 5 1 0
12 Ark.-Pine Bluff 5 307 1325 4.32 14 265.00 3 1 0
13 South Dakota St. 6 410 1601 3.90 9 266.83 5 1 0
14 Lehigh 6 424 1632 3.85 16 272.00 1 5 0
15 UNI 7 445 1914 4.30 11 273.43 5 2 0
16 Marist 6 353 1650 4.67 16 275.00 3 3 0
17 Colgate 7 392 1928 4.92 14 275.43 7 0 0
18 South Carolina St. 6 377 1662 4.41 13 277.00 5 1 0
19 N.C. A&T 6 353 1668 4.73 12 278.00 3 3 0
20 Bethune-Cookman 6 366 1679 4.59 17 279.83 2 4 0
21 Prairie View 5 309 1401 4.53 9 280.20 4 1 0
22 Jackson St. 6 368 1695 4.61 17 282.50 1 5 0
23 Youngstown St. 6 372 1710 4.60 16 285.00 4 2 0
24 Chattanooga 6 382 1725 4.52 13 287.50 4 2 0
25 James Madison 6 378 1733 4.58 17 288.83 2 4 0
26 Lafayette 6 374 1737 4.64 11 289.50 5 1 0
27 Richmond 6 382 1753 4.59 12 292.17 6 0 0
28 Liberty 6 346 1761 5.09 11 293.50 4 2 0
29 Central Conn. St. 6 345 1773 5.14 17 295.50 5 1 0
30 Hampton 6 366 1808 4.94 18 301.33 3 3 0
31 Florida A&M 6 368 1824 4.96 17 304.00 4 2 0
32 Alabama A&M 7 430 2130 4.95 23 304.29 4 3 0
33 St. Francis (PA) 7 425 2131 5.01 25 304.43 1 6 0
34 Jacksonville St. 6 364 1842 5.06 12 307.00 4 2 0
35 Eastern Ill. 7 445 2161 4.86 20 308.71 5 2 0
35 Ga. Southern 7 466 2161 4.64 22 308.71 4 3 0

[OL FU]

Scoring Defense

1 South Dakota St. 6 9 8 0 0 0 4 0 74 12.33 5 1 0
2 Yale 5 8 8 0 0 0 2 0 62 12.40 3 2 0
3 Elon 6 10 9 0 0 0 2 0 75 12.50 5 1 0
4 Dayton 6 10 8 1 0 0 2 0 76 12.67 5 1 0
5 UNI 7 11 11 0 0 0 5 0 92 13.14 5 2 0
6 Villanova 7 10 7 1 0 0 9 0 96 13.71 6 1 0
7 Prairie View 5 9 7 0 0 0 3 0 70 14.00 4 1 0
8 Drake 6 12 10 0 0 0 1 0 85 14.17 5 1 0
9 Morgan St. 6 11 8 0 0 0 4 0 86 14.33 5 1 0
10 Samford 7 14 8 1 0 0 3 0 103 14.71 3 4 0
11 Penn 5 9 8 0 0 0 4 0 74 14.80 3 2 0
12 Lafayette 6 11 9 1 0 0 5 0 92 15.33 5 1 0
13 Jacksonville St. 6 12 9 0 0 0 4 0 93 15.50 4 2 0
14 Richmond 6 12 10 1 0 0 3 2 97 16.17 6 0 0
15 Colgate 7 14 10 0 1 0 6 0 114 16.29 7 0 0
16 New Hampshire 6 11 11 0 0 0 7 0 98 16.33 5 1 0
17 N.C. A&T 6 12 8 2 0 0 5 0 99 16.50 3 3 0
18 Liberty 6 11 10 0 0 0 8 0 100 16.67 4 2 0
19 Butler 6 14 12 0 0 0 2 0 102 17.00 6 0 0
20 Southern Ill. 6 12 12 0 0 0 7 0 105 17.50 5 1 0
20 William & Mary 6 15 13 0 0 0 0 1 105 17.50 5 1 0
22 San Diego 6 13 10 0 0 0 6 0 106 17.67 3 3 0
23 Tennessee St. 7 15 15 0 0 0 7 0 126 18.00 3 4 0
24 Delaware 7 16 14 0 0 0 6 0 128 18.29 5 2 0
25 Chattanooga 6 13 12 0 0 0 6 1 110 18.33 4 2 0
26 Norfolk St. 6 13 12 0 0 0 7 0 111 18.50 3 3 0
27 South Carolina St. 6 13 12 1 0 0 6 1 112 18.67 5 1 0
28 Albany (NY) 7 13 11 1 1 0 12 1 131 18.71 5 2 0
29 Alabama St. 6 15 9 1 0 0 4 0 113 18.83 3 3 0
30 Eastern Ky. 6 15 11 0 0 0 4 1 115 19.17 4 2 0
30 Massachusetts 6 14 13 0 0 0 6 0 115 19.17 4 2 0
32 Holy Cross 6 16 13 1 0 0 2 0 117 19.50 5 1 0
33 Lehigh 6 16 16 0 0 0 2 0 118 19.67 1 5 0
33 Montana 6 14 13 0 0 0 7 0 118 19.67 6 0 0
33 Youngstown St. 6 16 16 0 0 0 2 0 118 19.67 4 2 0
36 Marist 6 16 12 0 0 0 4 0 120 20.00 3 3 0
37 Columbia 5 13 12 0 1 0 3 0 101 20.20 2 3 0
38 Eastern Ill. 7 20 16 0 0 0 1 2 143 20.43 5 2 0
39 Bucknell 6 14 13 0 0 0 8 1 123 20.50 3 3 0
40 Central Conn. St. 6 17 14 0 0 0 2 1 124 20.67 5 1 0
41 Ark.-Pine Bluff 5 14 12 0 0 0 3 0 105 21.00 3 1 0
42 Weber St. 7 19 13 0 0 0 7 0 148 21.14 4 3 0
43 Coastal Caro. 6 16 15 0 0 0 4 2 127 21.17 3 3 0
43 Florida A&M 6 17 13 0 0 0 4 0 127 21.17 4 2 0
45 Harvard 5 15 14 0 0 0 1 0 107 21.40 3 2 0
46 Jacksonville 6 18 14 0 0 0 3 0 131 21.83 3 3 0
47 Hofstra 7 19 17 0 0 0 7 1 154 22.00 4 3 0
47 Missouri St. 7 20 20 0 0 0 4 1 154 22.00 4 3 0
49 Robert Morris 7 21 18 1 0 0 3 1 157 22.43 1 6 0
50 Stephen F. Austin 6 17 15 0 0 0 6 0 135 22.50 5 1 0
51 Brown 5 15 14 0 0 0 3 0 113 22.60 3 2 0
52 Hampton 6 18 17 0 0 0 3 1 136 22.67 3 3 0
52 James Madison 6 17 16 0 0 0 6 0 136 22.67 2 4 0
54 Cal Poly 6 19 15 0 0 0 3 0 138 23.00 3 3 0
55 Bethune-Cookman 6 17 16 0 0 0 7 0 139 23.17 2 4 0
55 Jackson St. 6 17 13 0 0 0 6 3 139 23.17 1 5 0
55 Montana St. 6 16 14 0 0 0 9 1 139 23.17 4 2 0
58 Old Dominion 7 21 13 0 0 0 8 0 163 23.29 5 2 0
59 McNeese St. 6 19 18 0 0 0 2 1 140 23.33 4 2 0
60 Morehead St. 7 21 16 2 0 0 6 0 164 23.43 2 5 0
61 Georgetown 7 22 21 0 0 0 4 0 165 23.57 0 7 0
62 Northern Colo. 7 21 18 0 0 0 7 1 167 23.86 2 5 0
63 Monmouth 6 19 18 0 0 0 4 0 144 24.00 3 3 0
64 Stony Brook 7 22 19 0 0 0 6 0 169 24.14 3 4 0
65 Southern U. 6 19 17 0 0 0 5 0 146 24.33 4 2 0
66 Alabama A&M 7 23 20 0 0 0 5 0 173 24.71 4 3 0
67 Maine 7 22 21 0 0 0 7 0 174 24.86 3 4 0
68 Furman 6 19 16 1 0 0 6 0 150 25.00 4 2 0
68 Tennessee Tech 6 19 18 0 0 0 6 0 150 25.00 3 3 0
70 Delaware St. 5 18 15 0 0 0 1 0 126 25.20 1 4 0
71 UC Davis 6 20 18 0 0 0 4 1 152 25.33 3 3 0
72 Eastern Wash. 7 22 19 1 0 0 7 2 178 25.43 4 3 0
73 Duquesne 7 25 21 0 0 0 3 0 180 25.71 2 5 0
74 Citadel 6 19 17 0 0 0 8 0 155 25.83 2 4 0
75 Ga. Southern 7 22 20 0 0 0 10 1 184 26.29 4 3 0

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

Look past those numbers OL FU....

Look at the strength of Schedule
Both GSU and Sammy have played Chatty and Western
Western Scored 3 on Samford and 3 on GSU after WCU got a GSU turnover. Samford didn't turn the ball over versus WCU.
Chatty scored 14 on Samford and 20 on GSU, but one of those TDs was a garbage-time TD.

Uncommon SoCon opponents are as follows
Samford has played @App and @Furman,
GSU has played @Elon and @Wofford
Wofford is a pretty good team offensively even though they aren't a good team overall so far

and OOC
Compare UNC to Central Florida
Compare South Dakota State to Jacksonville xlolx
Compare Albany to Miles xlolx

Also keep in mind the blunders by GSU's offense. We turned it over 4 times against SDSU and 4 times against UNC. UNC had two defensive touchdowns and got two more TOs in GSU territory. Against SDSU, the average starting position of SDSU's scoring drives was in GSU territory.

I'll take GSU's D.

[blueballs]

I'll take GSU's defense over Samford's especially when you consider how young they really are and how bad the reallly young GSU offense has put them behind the eight ball all year... I think there are four seniors on the two deep and the FR and Sophs (Russell, Rowe, DuBose, Shippy, Heyden, Eubanks, Tinsley, Williams, etc.) are all future all conference players.

GSU has yet to play a complete game this year, and turnovers have just killed them. They are getting better, and I think this will be a good game just like most GSU/ASU games, but my head tells me Armanti is the difference.

[appmaj]

Is this for all the marbles???

ASU 38
GSU 24

[WestCoastAggie]

You know, I thought App. St./Elon would be the SoCon game of the year. Guess Not.

App. St. 35
GSU 17

[OL FU]

Look past those numbers OL FU....

Look at the strength of Schedule
Both GSU and Sammy have played Chatty and Western
Western Scored 3 on Samford and 3 on GSU after WCU got a GSU turnover. Samford didn't turn the ball over versus WCU.
Chatty scored 14 on Samford and 20 on GSU, but one of those TDs was a garbage-time TD.

Uncommon SoCon opponents are as follows
Samford has played @App and @Furman,
GSU has played @Elon and @Wofford
Wofford is a pretty good team offensively even though they aren't a good team overall so far

and OOC
Compare UNC to Central Florida
Compare South Dakota State to Jacksonville xlolx
Compare Albany to Miles xlolx

Also keep in mind the blunders by GSU's offense. We turned it over 4 times against SDSU and 4 times against UNC. UNC had two defensive touchdowns and got two more TOs in GSU territory. Against SDSU, the average starting position of SDSU's scoring drives was in GSU territory.

I'll take GSU's D.


Could be, no doubt GSU has played a tougher schedule and two games really blemish GSU's stats,


But so far Samford's d has held up pretty good in every game. GSU's has had a few ups and downs which may go to Blue balls comment on youth.

[OL FU]

You know, I thought App. St./Elon would be the SoCon game of the year. Guess Not.

App. St. 35
GSU 17

Already taken place and Elon beat Furmanxsmiley_wix

[OL FU]

Look past those numbers OL FU....

.

PS, that sounds too much like workxlolx

[OL FU]

I'll take GSU's defense over Samford's especially when you consider how young they really are and how bad the reallly young GSU offense has put them behind the eight ball all year... I think there are four seniors on the two deep and the FR and Sophs (Russell, Rowe, DuBose, Shippy, Heyden, Eubanks, Tinsley, Williams, etc.) are all future all conference players.

GSU has yet to play a complete game this year, and turnovers have just killed them. They are getting better, and I think this will be a good game just like most GSU/ASU games, but my head tells me Armanti is the difference.

You know the unfortunate part about defensive stats (especially scoring stats) is that they are certainly impacted by field position and offensive play.

at our recent get togethers YT always tells me he will worry about FU when Furman's defense proves they can stop Wofford. I always tell him our defense will stop Wofford when our offense can keep our defense off the field. :o

[Reign of Terrier]

You know the unfortunate part about defensive stats (especially scoring stats) is that they are certainly impacted by field position and offensive play.

at our recent get togethers YT always tells me he will worry about FU when Furman's defense proves they can stop Wofford. I always tell him our defense will stop Wofford when our offense can keep our defense off the field. :o

If your offense can't move the ball on our defense your in trouble (but we're getting betterxprayx)

[OL FU]

If your offense can't move the ball on our defense your in trouble (but we're getting betterxprayx)

Well I think these conversations were about the 07 and 08 teams and your false assumptions about your 09 team:D:p

[Reign of Terrier]

Well I think these conversations were about the 07 and 08 teams and your false assumptions about your 09 team:D:p

even then it was almost pathetic that FU's offense couldn't stay on the field against us.

[OL FU]

even then it was almost pathetic that FU's offense couldn't stay on the field against us.

See you at next year's get togetherxlolx


Beers will be on you. I'll bring the fake IDxthumbsupx

[T-Dog]

Last year's game was one of the best games of all time. Heck, the last three years have all been classics. I'll be surprised if this game is as good as the last three.

Georgia Southern has given up 23 sacks this season (and that's not including the UTC game from yesterday) and the maligned App defense is looking for a statement on Black Saturday.

NP for now though.

[The Cats]

It may be somewhat close until the 4th qtr.... but the Mountaineers will blow it open in the 4th.

[straightshooter]

Is this for all the marbles???

ASU 38
GSU 24

As far as App is concerned it is.

[jus10asu]

I think we come out and play at least three quarters this week haha....well see...maybe the black saturday crowd will put some passion into this team.

[appstate38]

Well at this point the only thing that has been able to stop the Apps on offense is the Apps themselves.... Turnovers and missed FG's have been the biggest killers for them so far.

[asknoquarter21]

Our offense is awesome.

If we show up and don't beat ourselves with penalties and missed FGs we will put up points.

[ASU_Fanatic]

App gets help from the 12th man and wins a close one.

[CrackerRiley]

As long as App wins in the turnover margin, they should get the win. I'll take my homer pick but in a close game because our defense hasn't stopped anyone for an entire game so far this year. ASU/GSU is always close.

[AppStateold299]

With the way our defense is playing there is no way that we are blowing any team away. I don't see our defense keeping that many people out of the end-zone. It is a good thing that we do have Armanti this year and the explosive offense or we would be the bottom of the barrel. This game has proven that it doesn't matter who is better or who is down it is always a close good game. I give us a slight advantage. We will win by less than a touchdown.

[PaladinFan]

With the way our defense is playing there is no way that we are blowing any team away. I don't see our defense keeping that many people out of the end-zone. It is a good thing that we do have Armanti this year and the explosive offense or we would be the bottom of the barrel. This game has proven that it doesn't matter who is better or who is down it is always a close good game. I give us a slight advantage. We will win by less than a touchdown.

Good news is, the bad App D is going against a possibly just as bad GSU offense.

[BossEagle]

Key may be how much the couple key losses on GSU's defense from last year affect the ability to stop AE. The white kid last year was around him every play, but he's gone.
Then GSU has said they have the worst O in the land, we say we have the worst D, so we'll see who wins the battle of who sucks less.

He's on the coaching staff though :D

[Schfourteenteen]

Not sure if using those numbers proves anything, especially if Penn is at #2. That's the problem with NCAA stats it's over 119 teams who never play each other. With that said the defensive numbers are always skewed from # of possessions and other stipulations.

App State should win this game by 10.

[mrklean]

I have not been a fan of Coach Hatcher, However, I believe that we will win this one!!

GATA

[GreatAppSt]

I have not been a fan of Coach Hatcher, However, I believe that we will win this one!!

GATA

Are ya coming up?

[apaladin]

App gets help from the 12th man and wins a close one.

You shouldn't have to rely on the refs. xlolx

[PhoenixSupreme]

I think App continues to keep their eyes on the prize and wins handily....probably 38-20. Although I would greatly appreciate it if GaSo. proves me wrong. xpeacex

[appfan2008]

asu-38
gsu-35...

asu cant be stopped on o and our d cant stop anybody

[wafflehouse48]

Hopefully it's not 17 against 11 again this week. App by 4.

[OL FU]

Not sure if using those numbers proves anything, especially if Penn is at #2. That's the problem with NCAA stats it's over 119 teams who never play each other. With that said the defensive numbers are always skewed from # of possessions and other stipulations.

App State should win this game by 10.

I agree. You have to look beyond the numbers. Samford schedule has been more difficult than Penns.

[boonegoon]

asu-38
gsu-35...

asu cant be stopped on o and our d cant stop anybody

I concur. If we can't stop the big plays , I don't care who we play, it will be close. Thankfully, our offense has allowed us to win games that our defense let the other team stay in it.

[Apps03]

Hopefully it's not 17 against 11 again this week. App by 4.

Are you referring to this past weekend's game?

[GaSouthern]

Lots of points.

ASU 38
GSU 24

xnodx

[GaSouthern]

I concur. If we can't stop the big plays , I don't care who we play, it will be close. Thankfully, our offense has allowed us to win games that our defense let the other team stay in it.

In our offense, there is no such thing as big plays

[AppIAA]

In our offense, there is no such thing as big plays

You havent seen App's defense play then..

[ASUG8]

In our offense, there is no such thing as big plays

Don't worry - you'll start getting some offense on Saturday xbawlingx If your QB (with no pass rush or pressure at all) can hit a guy 25 yards downfield standing by himself, you'll put a lot of points on the board.

[SideLine Shooter]

Are you referring to this past weekend's game?

You mean you didn't notice?

[SideLine Shooter]

Don't worry - you'll start getting some offense on Saturday xbawlingx If your QB (with no pass rush or pressure at all) can hit a guy 25 yards downfield standing by himself, you'll put a lot of points on the board.

I think Wofford had their 3 longest offensive plays of the year in the first half on Saturday.xconfusedx

[Apps03]

You mean you didn't notice?

I definitely noticed but I thought he was implying Wofford got the screw job.

If not, I misunderstood.

They were terrible for both sides. Coco's catch comes to mind along with questionable spots all day.

[SideLine Shooter]

I definitely noticed but I thought he was implying Wofford got the screw job.

If not, I misunderstood.

They were terrible for both sides. Coco's catch comes to mind along with questionable spots all day.

Exactly, the official that called it incomplete was on the WC sideline and I believe he let somebody over there call it for him.

[ChiefGSU275]

As proud as I am of our team for taking out Chatty, I just dont see us going into App and taking a victory away. Offense is still too inconsistent, regardless of how terrible App's defense is. Plus, they have Armanti Edwards. If he's not playing, our chances go up alot.

Speaking of Edwards, I heard that Coach Hatcher is getting John Deere to sponsor our team this week, so we'll have green and yellow jerseys. Anyone else heard that rumor??

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

Don't worry - you'll start getting some offense on Saturday xbawlingx If your QB (with no pass rush or pressure at all) can hit a guy 25 yards downfield standing by himself, you'll put a lot of points on the board.

GSU will be able to run the ball down App's throat all day long. That won't be enough to get four touchdowns (which is what I think we'll need to win) though. Well have to have some production from the passing game. The matchup between GSU's receiver corps (who are all redshirt and true freshmen) versus guys like Legree and Gilbert should be worrisome for any GSU fan. I really hope your D is as porous as you say it is.

On the bright side, the matchup between App's offense and GSU's D is going to be epic. The main player to watch on GSU's defense is our leading tackler #33 Dion Dubose. He is a good run-stopper and he has a nose for the ball. At the UNC game I heard some UNC fan a few rows behind mine say "that number 33 is everywhere!". He didn't play against App. last year but by the end of the year he did beat out GSU's 2nd team all-SoCon LB for the starting position. He doesn't tackle quite as well as Chris Covington but I have a feeling AE is going to run into him a few times. GSU's DL is young, but good. The secondary has a combination of experience and good young talent.

As I said before, I wouldn't be surprised if this is the lowest scoring ASU-GSU game in a long time.

[blazrdog#1]

enough said!!!!xthumbsupxxthumbsupxxbowxxbowx

[introvertedGSUfan]

GSU will be able to run the ball down App's throat all day long. That won't be enough to get four touchdowns (which is what I think we'll need to win) though. Well have to have some production from the passing game. The matchup between GSU's receiver corps (who are all redshirt and true freshmen) versus guys like Legree and Gilbert should be worrisome for any GSU fan. I really hope your D is as porous as you say it is.

On the bright side, the matchup between App's offense and GSU's D is going to be epic. The main player to watch on GSU's defense is our leading tackler #33 Dion Dubose. He is a good run-stopper and he has a nose for the ball. At the UNC game I heard some UNC fan a few rows behind mine say "that number 33 is everywhere!". He didn't play against App. last year but by the end of the year he did beat out GSU's 2nd team all-SoCon LB for the starting position. He doesn't tackle quite as well as Chris Covington but I have a feeling AE is going to run into him a few times. GSU's DL is young, but good. The secondary has a combination of experience and good young talent.

As I said before, I wouldn't be surprised if this is the lowest scoring ASU-GSU game in a long time.

I think you're also forgetting Brent Russel. He had two sacks on one Chatty drive last weekend and has been getting double teamed almost all the season.

[ASUG8]

GSU will be able to run the ball down App's throat all day long. That won't be enough to get four touchdowns (which is what I think we'll need to win) though. Well have to have some production from the passing game. The matchup between GSU's receiver corps (who are all redshirt and true freshmen) versus guys like Legree and Gilbert should be worrisome for any GSU fan. I really hope your D is as porous as you say it is.

On the bright side, the matchup between App's offense and GSU's D is going to be epic. The main player to watch on GSU's defense is our leading tackler #33 Dion Dubose. He is a good run-stopper and he has a nose for the ball. At the UNC game I heard some UNC fan a few rows behind mine say "that number 33 is everywhere!". He didn't play against App. last year but by the end of the year he did beat out GSU's 2nd team all-SoCon LB for the starting position. He doesn't tackle quite as well as Chris Covington but I have a feeling AE is going to run into him a few times. GSU's DL is young, but good. The secondary has a combination of experience and good young talent.

As I said before, I wouldn't be surprised if this is the lowest scoring ASU-GSU game in a long time.


A quick glance at AE's offensive production over the last couple of years shows a real emphasis on passing. Moore has taken over much of the running AE has done in the past, so expect your secondary to get a workout especially with Quick, Hillary, Cline, Jordan, and even screens to Moore. As usual, we'll hope to come out on the better side of a shootout. xconfusedx

Woco's triple option didn't beat us to death like I thought it would - the Terriers had some well called passing plays and some solid returns to get the lead. It just appeared that they wore down in the second half with the ASU offense on the field so much. I'm hoping for a repeat of that this week, except without all the heart attacks.

[OL FU]

Albany scores 26 (averaging 26 per game, only got 7 against UMass)
SDSU scores 44 (averagin 31 per game)
Elon 28 ( averaging 37, but I think elon got the points against GSU in the first half)
Wofford 21 (wofford's average is certainly skewed by two FBS and a Chuck South Score. I think they are averaging 20 in Socon games)
Chattanooga 20 (Chatt is averaging 22)

You know I am not trying to be difficult because obviously the GSU fans think their defense is a good one. But what about any of those scores should make me think that ASU won't score a lot of points.

It does seem that the defense has been much better since the second half of the Elon game. Maybe that is the answer.

[GSUhooligan]

Albany scores 26 (averaging 26 per game, only got 7 against UMass)
SDSU scores 44 (averagin 31 per game)
Elon 28 ( averaging 37, but I think elon got the points against GSU in the first half)
Wofford 21 (wofford's average is certainly skewed by two FBS and a Chuck South Score. I think they are averaging 20 in Socon games)
Chattanooga 20 (Chatt is averaging 22)

You know I am not trying to be difficult because obviously the GSU fans think their defense is a good one. But what about any of those scores should make me think that ASU won't score a lot of points.

It does seem that the defense has been much better since the second half of the Elon game. Maybe that is the answer.

The final scoreboard is not a good indicator of our D since,most of those scores came on short fields due to our offense not moving the ball or turning the ball over. In addition, do you notice a trend? Our D is getting better each week.

[OL FU]

The final scoreboard is not a good indicator of our D since,most of those scores came on short fields due to our offense not moving the ball or turning the ball over. In addition, do you notice a trend? Our D is getting better each week.

I mentioned the trend and have before said I understand that offensive problems make defensive scores look bad. I suppose one could say that since App doesn't seem to have defense that will reduce GSU's offensive problems and keep the score lower.

I am just trying to figure out why some think ASU will score so little. I guess if you don't turn the ball over and if the defense is as good as some say, then then ASU won't score much. I guess we will see.

[PaladinFan]

The final scoreboard is not a good indicator of our D since,most of those scores came on short fields due to our offense not moving the ball or turning the ball over. In addition, do you notice a trend? Our D is getting better each week.

Better the weeks you started playing injury riddled Wofford, UTC, and Western Carolina?

[GSUhooligan]

Better the weeks you started playing injury riddled Wofford, UTC, and Western Carolina?

Yeah, but Western didn't score 2 touchdowns on us. Wait, they didn't even score one.

[straightshooter]

GSU's biggest problem this year has been red zone turnovers. Happened two or three times against SDSU, happened against Elon and it happened twice against UNC, plus they got two pick six scores - one on an interception and one on a fumble.

Cut down on GSU's turnovers, especially in the red zone, and their season looks very different. Yes, they are very young on both sides of the ball. There are far too many freshmen starters, but they are talented, and they're learning week by week to play the college game.

My guess is that you'll see Armanti run more this week than in any game to date this season. GSU will bring the pressure - rushing six or seven on many plays. That's going to put GSU in man coverage on a lot of plays, which can be an advantage for App.

I say Armanti gets flushed from the pocket a lot, and App's success will depend on how well he scrambles against the speed of GSU's D. They are faster across the board than any GSU D he's faced.

[OL FU]

Yeah, but Western didn't score 2 touchdowns on us. Wait, they didn't even score one.

I'll be honest. I still think our (FU) defense is somewhat suspect. We have done a good job of keeping people out of the endzone while teams amass a lot of yardage. I was very pleased with the Elon game but they still did a good job of moving up and down the field. They simply didn't score. Now keeping people out of the endzone is the important thing, but when bend don't break breaks it can be ugly. Last week is a good example of an offense that has done nothing all year putting 24 points on us.

Also, my pre-season pick for Furman was 6-5 with one of those losses to a GSU team that would be much improved by the end of the year. Now I feel a lot better about our chances to improve on that 6-5 prediction but that is mainly due to ASU and WC's seeming vulnerability.

Now back on topic. The offenses inability to protect the ball makes the defense look not as good as it may be. As I said, we will see if ASU stays under 30. xnodx

[SideLine Shooter]

GSU's biggest problem this year has been red zone turnovers. Happened two or three times against SDSU, happened against Elon and it happened twice against UNC, plus they got two pick six scores - one on an interception and one on a fumble.

Cut down on GSU's turnovers, especially in the red zone, and their season looks very different. Yes, they are very young on both sides of the ball. There are far too many freshmen starters, but they are talented, and they're learning week by week to play the college game.

My guess is that you'll see Armanti run more this week than in any game to date this season. GSU will bring the pressure - rushing six or seven on many plays. That's going to put GSU in man coverage on a lot of plays, which can be an advantage for App.

I say Armanti gets flushed from the pocket a lot, and App's success will depend on how well he scrambles against the speed of GSU's D. They are faster across the board than any GSU D he's faced.


Can Armanti scramble?xlolxxlolxxnodx

[Eaglegus2]

Is this for all the marbles???

ASU 38
GSU 24

For our marbles it is! Lose and we are through with any hopes of making the playoffs.

[straightshooter]

Can Armanti scramble?xlolxxlolxxnodx

Of course he can scramble. That's why I said that the game will largely depend on how GSU's faster D than in the past goes about limiting those scrambling opportunities. If they can do that, GSU's chances are pretty good.

You know that both teams will play at a higher level. They always do, and over the past three years, this game has come down to which team made one more play. Hatcher will have some new tricks up his sleeve that App hasn't prepared for. He always does. I'm sure Jerry Moore's staff is scheming about some new wrinkles too.

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

Albany scores 26 (averaging 26 per game, only got 7 against UMass)
SDSU scores 44 (averagin 31 per game)
Elon 28 ( averaging 37, but I think elon got the points against GSU in the first half)
Wofford 21 (wofford's average is certainly skewed by two FBS and a Chuck South Score. I think they are averaging 20 in Socon games)
Chattanooga 20 (Chatt is averaging 22)

You know I am not trying to be difficult because obviously the GSU fans think their defense is a good one. But what about any of those scores should make me think that ASU won't score a lot of points.

It does seem that the defense has been much better since the second half of the Elon game. Maybe that is the answer.

I'll break it down...

Albany - wasn't a bad day of defense but wasn't good. 39 of Albany's yards came off a big 39 yard run on a 4th and 1
South Dakota State - 4 turnovers, average starting position on scoring drives for SDSU was in GSU territory. SDSU is a pretty good offensive team, too. 'Nuff said.
Western Carolina - bad offense, but held them to fewer yards than any FCS team so far which includes Samford, GWebb, The Citadel, and Furman. Western's 3 points came from a fumbled punt return.
Elon - held Elon to fewer yards than any FCS team other than Furman (Elon had exact same number of yards against both teams). Elon got an int in GSU territory and Elon scored in three plays. Also don't forget that GSU's offense gave up a safety. I'd say 9 of the 28 points are attributable to the GSU offense.
Wofford - didn't contain them as well as Chatty, but I think everyone will agree Wofford will be able to rack up yards unless their injuries continue to get worse.
UNC - D played reasonably well versus UNC. Two defensive TDs by UNC and two turnovers in GSU territory meant UNC's backups were in the game in the third quarter. GSU absolutely squashed UNC's offensive backups for whatever that is worth. Would have liked to see what we could do versus their first-string offense for four quarters, but we'll never know.
Chatty - We are the first team to hold Chatty under 300 yards of offense so far. Chatty had 241 yards of offense against us.

May not be anything that looks outstanding on paper, but I think you could argue GSU has a better D than Samford, and Samford's D is pretty good. The only SoCon team that might have a better defense is Elon, but Elon and GSU don't have any common opponents yet so it's hard to make a comparison.

[OL FU]

I'll break it down...

Albany - wasn't a bad day of defense but wasn't good. 39 of Albany's yards came off a big 39 yard run on a 4th and 1
South Dakota State - 4 turnovers, average starting position on scoring drives for SDSU was in GSU territory. SDSU is a pretty good offensive team, too. 'Nuff said.
Western Carolina - bad offense, but held them to fewer yards than any FCS team so far which includes Samford, GWebb, The Citadel, and Furman. Western's 3 points came from a fumbled punt return.
Elon - held Elon to fewer yards than any FCS team other than Furman (Elon had exact same number of yards against both teams). Elon got an int in GSU territory and Elon scored in three plays. Also don't forget that GSU's offense gave up a safety. I'd say 9 of the 28 points are attributable to the GSU offense.
Wofford - didn't contain them as well as Chatty, but I think everyone will agree Wofford will be able to rack up yards unless their injuries continue to get worse.
UNC - D played reasonably well versus UNC. Two defensive TDs by UNC and two turnovers in GSU territory meant UNC's backups were in the game in the third quarter. GSU absolutely squashed UNC's offensive backups for whatever that is worth. Would have liked to see what we could do versus their first-string offense for four quarters, but we'll never know.
Chatty - We are the first team to hold Chatty under 300 yards of offense so far. Chatty had 241 yards of offense against us.

May not be anything that looks outstanding on paper, but I think you could argue GSU has a better D than Samford, and Samford's D is pretty good. The only SoCon team that might have a better defense is Elon, but Elon and GSU don't have any common opponents yet so it's hard to make a comparison.


OK thanks. I am taking your word for it. Don't disappoint mexsmiley_wix

[straightshooter]

I'll break it down...

Albany - wasn't a bad day of defense but wasn't good. 39 of Albany's yards came off a big 39 yard run on a 4th and 1
South Dakota State - 4 turnovers, average starting position on scoring drives for SDSU was in GSU territory. SDSU is a pretty good offensive team, too. 'Nuff said.
Western Carolina - bad offense, but held them to fewer yards than any FCS team so far which includes Samford, GWebb, The Citadel, and Furman. Western's 3 points came from a fumbled punt return.
Elon - held Elon to fewer yards than any FCS team other than Furman (Elon had exact same number of yards against both teams). Elon got an int in GSU territory and Elon scored in three plays. Also don't forget that GSU's offense gave up a safety. I'd say 9 of the 28 points are attributable to the GSU offense.
Wofford - didn't contain them as well as Chatty, but I think everyone will agree Wofford will be able to rack up yards unless their injuries continue to get worse.
UNC - D played reasonably well versus UNC. Two defensive TDs by UNC and two turnovers in GSU territory meant UNC's backups were in the game in the third quarter. GSU absolutely squashed UNC's offensive backups for whatever that is worth. Would have liked to see what we could do versus their first-string offense for four quarters, but we'll never know.
Chatty - We are the first team to hold Chatty under 300 yards of offense so far. Chatty had 241 yards of offense against us.

May not be anything that looks outstanding on paper, but I think you could argue GSU has a better D than Samford, and Samford's D is pretty good. The only SoCon team that might have a better defense is Elon, but Elon and GSU don't have any common opponents yet so it's hard to make a comparison.

Also, Chatty got about 60 of those yards in garbage time with less than two minutes to go when they were throwing it all over the yard. Granted they got the yards, but GSU had called off the dogs a bit that late in the game.

Hatcher said after looking at the UNC tape that Davis left his starters in the game until the fourth quarter. By then GSU was substituting a lot too. The backup QB for UNC played a bit in the third, but he was playing with mostly starting OL and receivers. GSU's D slammed the door on UNC in the second half, and I mean slammed it shut.

[appirishmen]

regardless of what both teams have done each year, this game is always close....... i say App in a close one if our d still struggles, and app by 14 if our d shows up.

[OL FU]

regardless of what both teams have done each year, this game is always close....... i say App in a close one if our d still struggles, and app by 14 if our d shows up.

It is ok if your d shows up, but please wait until Novemberxnodx

[appirishmen]

For our marbles it is! Lose and we are through with any hopes of making the playoffs.

i would like to say....if we lose we are out of the playoffs. we must win out with a close loss only to Elon i we want in.

[PhoenixMan]

regardless of what both teams have done each year, this game is always close....... i say App in a close one if our d still struggles, and app by 14 if our d shows up.

If Apps defense doesn't do a better job against the run this week it could definitely be a GSU upset. Armanti is the man, but he can only do so much when the D keeps giving up 60-80 yd. runs.

[appirishmen]

If Apps defense doesn't do a better job against the run this week it could definitely be a GSU upset. Armanti is the man, but he can only do so much when the D keeps giving up 60-80 yd. runs.

very true xnonono2xxnonono2xxnonono2xxnonono2x

[CamelCityAppFan]

I think we've learned that the ASU defense doesn't have to play lights out, they just need to get a couple of stops or turnovers per half. ASU is going to score, and will score a lot. Defense just needs to buckle down for a couple of series. I don't like winning ugly like that, but we don't track wins/ugly wins/losses...

[Skjellyfetti]

If Apps defense doesn't do a better job against the run this week it could definitely be a GSU upset. Armanti is the man, but he can only do so much when the D keeps giving up 60-80 yd. runs.

McNeese and Wofford both have top 5 rushing offenses nationally. Georgia Southern is near the bottom of the Socon running the ball. They average less than half the yardage on the ground as those two. Our defense should be able to stop them. If they fail... I will quit defending this defense. xlolx

[straightshooter]

McNeese and Wofford both have top 5 rushing offenses nationally. Georgia Southern is near the bottom of the Socon running the ball. They average less than half the yardage on the ground as those two. Our defense should be able to stop them. If they fail... I will quit defending this defense. xlolx

That would be because GSU really hasn't tried to run the ball until the past couple of games. Plus when you turn it over in the red zone as much as GSU has, and get behind, you don't try to run the ball as much. Count on seeing a good mix of pass/run from the Eagles on Saturday. They've been much more balance the past two games, and it's showing.

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

McNeese and Wofford both have top 5 rushing offenses nationally. Georgia Southern is near the bottom of the Socon running the ball. They average less than half the yardage on the ground as those two. Our defense should be able to stop them. If they fail... I will quit defending this defense. xlolx

GSU can run the ball better than you think. Adam Urbano had 5.5 ypc against UNC and he was out of the game by the time UNC's second-string defense came in. He also as over 5 ypc for the whole season. His stats for total yards aren't much to look at but I think he will put up some yards against App.

[bjtheflamesfan]

This game should be a close one (of course I thought LU-CCU would be close and that one was nowhere NEAR that by the time it was over)

[Skjellyfetti]

GSU can run the ball better than you think. Adam Urbano had 5.5 ypc against UNC and he was out of the game by the time UNC's second-string defense came in. He also as over 5 ypc for the whole season. His stats for total yards aren't much to look at but I think he will put up some yards against App.

Yeah, I should have said "slow down" instead of "stop." I don't think we'll totally shut down y'all's running game... but, we better be able to at least minimize it and not give up any big plays.

[Ivytalk]

I think it will be ASU by a TD or less, although I'm pulling for the underdog!

[nms1987]

<i>It took a Jayson Foster offensive spectacle to beat us in Boone last time, and you don't have him anymore. I'll take ASU at +14.</i>

Yeah, but they won't need Foster this year.
Our defense is far worse than the D that Foster run circles around.

[Eagle22]

Yeah, I should have said "slow down" instead of "stop." I don't think we'll totally shut down y'all's running game... but, we better be able to at least minimize it and not give up any big plays.


With our offense, we're not exactly expecting big plays. It may prove to be the best approach though ... we might be able to sit and churn out 3 and 4 yards per play, burn some clock, KEEP ARMANTI OFF THE FIELD, and get into the red zone, provided we don't fumble it like we've been prone to do. That's been the major problem with our grind it out approach, we usually end up making a mistake (major penalty) or turn the ball over.

If we get inside the 10, we'll probably end up kicking a field goal. That is the way the season has progressed.

We're certainly hopeful that our defense will play as well as they have so far. If they do, we have a chance in this game.

[Skjellyfetti]

Yeah, but they won't need Foster this year.
Our defense is far worse than the D that Foster run circles around.

The '07 defense had the same reputation for being weak against the run... and we're statistically better against it this year:

2007: 197.3 average opponents' rushing yards per game
2009: 179.2 average opponents' rushing yards per game

In 2007 the defense stepped up when it counted and we shut down two of the best backs in the FCS (Omar Cuff and Tim Hightower).

I think the defense will step up similarly this year... though, we need them to do it NOW as opposed to December.

[CamelCityAppFan]

I think the defense will step up similarly this year... though, we need them to do it NOW as opposed to December.

If it's an either/or, I'd rather the defense to continue to do enough to get by now, and step it up in December. xsmiley_wix

[Skjellyfetti]

If it's an either/or, I'd rather the defense to continue to do enough to get by now, and step it up in December. xsmiley_wix

Haha, good point. xthumbsupx

[CrackerRiley]

If it's an either/or, I'd rather the defense to continue to do enough to get by now, and step it up in December. xsmiley_wix

I see no problem with them stepping it up now, though. The heart attacks I get every weekend are killing me slowly.

[matfu]

Is the game on TV?

[appirishmen]

Is the game on TV?

yea sports south

[PhoenixMan]

If it's an either/or, I'd rather the defense to continue to do enough to get by now, and step it up in December. xsmiley_wix

If they don't step it up at least a notch or two now, December may not matter, as they won't be participating. (No sarcasm, that's the truth IMO)

[Skjellyfetti]

If they don't step it up at least a notch or two now, December may not matter, as they won't be participating. (No sarcasm, that's the truth IMO)

And if Elon drops a notch or two in November, December may not matter, as they won't be participating. (No sarcasm, that's the truth IMO)

[SpeedkingATL]

I think it is harder to predict Apps performance this year than in any recent year. On one hand I keep hearing how good GSU's D is but I see AE totally hitting his stride and would be surprised if ASU was held under 35 points. The question is will ASU's D hold GSU under whatever number the Mountaineers post. I give ASU the edge just because of home field this year.

Unlike many here, I say " just bet the over no matter what it is".xlolx

[CamelCityAppFan]

If they don't step it up at least a notch or two now, December may not matter, as they won't be participating. (No sarcasm, that's the truth IMO)

You still think App goes 6-5 this year? Running out of games...

[PhoenixMan]

You still think App goes 6-5 this year? Running out of games...

No, but I predict a loss this week against GSU, and I think Elon will beat them. However, they continue to pull it off week after week when it looks like they won't. My respect for AE grows more each time I watch him. The guy refuses to lose, the mark of a championship caliber QB. When I said 6-5 I had forgotten how he can take a game over. They may win outxeekx

[asknoquarter21]

2 chapionships isn't the mark of a championship QB?

Everyone knew he was good when he took over the starting job as a freshman, but the difference in Armanti and most QBs that start as freshman is that he keeps getting better(you could put Riddle is this category as well). Many times a QB starts as a freshman he will either have a bad sophomore year or no progress as many would expect.

Each and every game I see improvement from Armanti and it is a shame he probably won't get a chance to be an NFL QB, although I think he could find a role as a Josh Cribbs type player.

[ThompsonThe]

weSall clobber ta bums

[appstate38]

I am beginning to think the Phoenix fans are hoping that we are down so that they will feel more confident going into our game with them. Truth is, the Apps are the defending SoCon champs, Elon has to beat us, not the other way around. Say what you want about the defense. They get stops when it matters! The only teams that stops the Apps on offense is the Apps!!!! PERIOD!

[PhoenixMan]

2 chapionships isn't the mark of a championship QB?

Everyone knew he was good when he took over the starting job as a freshman, but the difference in Armanti and most QBs that start as freshman is that he keeps getting better(you could put Riddle is this category as well). Many times a QB starts as a freshman he will either have a bad sophomore year or no progress as many would expect.

Each and every game I see improvement from Armanti and it is a shame he probably won't get a chance to be an NFL QB, although I think he could find a role as a Josh Cribbs type player.

Please read my post again.....I said it IS the mark of championship caliber QB. AE has earned the greatest respect by winning championships.

[jmufan999]

why does it always say "public poll"? i don't see anyone's name attached to this thing.

anyway, i picked app in a close one but it's a total guess since i haven't seen either team (at least i can admit it)

[biggie]

why does it always say "public poll"? i don't see anyone's name attached to this thing.

anyway, i picked app in a close one but it's a total guess since i haven't seen either team (at least i can admit it)
Click on the number of votes, it will show who voted for that option.

[Skjellyfetti]

why does it always say "public poll"? i don't see anyone's name attached to this thing.

anyway, i picked app in a close one but it's a total guess since i haven't seen either team (at least i can admit it)

If you click on the votes you can see who voted where.

[mrklean]

GATA!!

[DLS]

new videos up on vimeo

http://www.vimeo.com/7095748

[DX Man]

Throw the records out the door. This is going to be one heck of a game!

[CrackerRiley]

They are calling for rain as of right now on Friday and Saturday. WHY WHY WHY!?!

[DLS]

seems like it's rained every home game. damn boone weather.

[proasu89]

seems like it's rained every home game. damn boone weather.

It was beautiful for McNeese, but I was at work and we lost...so yea that was still a pretty crappy dayxnodx

[biggie]

Good read about Black Saturday to wake up some App fans.

http://www.goasu.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=21500&KEY=&ATCLID=204818003

[Seven Would Be Nice]

Rain should help slow armanti down... :D

[biggie]

Rain should help slow armanti down... :D
Hasn't so far, rain with our turf makes little difference. And between this year and last year it has rained/snowed at home games around 75% of the time, including a downpour against Samford this year and drizzle all day for NCCU.

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

Hasn't so far, rain with our turf makes little difference. And between this year and last year it has rained/snowed at home games around 75% of the time, including a downpour against Samford this year and drizzle all day for NCCU.

Better hope there isn't another downpour, then. GSU's defense is arguably better than Samford's (see early discussion in this thread). xnodx

[SideLine Shooter]

Better hope there isn't another downpour, then. GSU's defense is arguably better than Samford's (see early discussion in this thread). xnodx

Exactly, the GSU Defense may be the best in the country!

[Skjellyfetti]

Better hope there isn't another downpour, then. GSU's defense is arguably better than Samford's (see early discussion in this thread). xnodx

We shall see. Bet we score over 20 though.

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

Exactly, the GSU Defense may be the best in the country!

Never said that.


We shall see. Bet we score over 20 though.

I would, too. But not more than 30.

[DLS]

rain doesnt make the field slow but it does make it slick. don't need that

[biggie]

Better hope there isn't another downpour, then. GSU's defense is arguably better than Samford's (see early discussion in this thread). xnodx
Might want to worry about your mostly passing offense if the ball gets wet. Our defense may suck at times, but if your QB is inaccurate (see Samford game) or the receivers can't hold on to the wet ball then it doesn't matter as much.

The same wet day, Sept 26th: GSU vs Elon, GSU with 31 rush yards, 122 passing yards, 3 INTs, 1 offense TD in the game.

[Kill'em]

Key may be how much the couple key losses on GSU's defense from last year affect the ability to stop AE. The white kid last year was around him every play, but he's gone.

Then GSU has said they have the worst O in the land, we say we have the worst D, so we'll see who wins the battle of who sucks less.
I never thought either of these two statements would have ever been made. Our offense and App St's defense bad? The apocalypse must be near.

[Saint3333]

I never thought either of these two statements would have ever been made. Our offense and App St's defense bad? The apocalypse must be near.

I'd agree, just 10 years ago it was arguably the best O vs. best D in the conference if not the nation.

[Appinator]

I can't take another rainy Saturday, I hope it clears before kick off. It should be cold and windy though, according to Ray.

http://www.booneweather.com/Forecast/Boone

[DLS]

hopefully the weather plays to app's favor with the eagles coming from the 70 degree heat to the low 40's cold windy dampness

[Seven Would Be Nice]

hopefully the weather plays to app's favor with the eagles coming from the 70 degree heat to the low 40's cold windy dampness

Weather conditions vs UTC were in the mid 50s and raining the entire game.

[Skjellyfetti]

Writeup on the Georgia Southern - App rivalry:
http://www.gsueaglenation.com/pages/full_story/push?article-The+rivalry%20&id=4081443-The+rivalry&instance=articles_player

I really liked this tidbit:


The one that started it all

The first time Georgia Southern played ASU in the modern era, it was defending its back-to-back national titles in the quarterfinals of the 1987 playoffs.

Erk Russell brought his Eagles to Boone, N.C. on an icy, snowy bitter December day, and was shut out 19-0. It was the first time Erk’s Eagles had ever failed to score.

To add insult to injury, Appalachian fans spelled out, “Can you score?” in the snow behind the end zone.
They couldn’t.

[FUPaladins]

GaSo could win, but they probably won't. Just sayin.

[appmaj]

Is there going to be anyway to watch this one online??
Sportsouth is not available in South Florida oddly enough

[KiddBrewer]

Is there going to be anyway to watch this one online??
Sportsouth is not available in South Florida oddly enough

it should be on GoASUtv i would think...that sucks its not available there. guess its pretty much only available in the "braves fans" territory

[ASU_Fanatic]

You know, I thought App. St./Elon would be the SoCon game of the year. Guess Not.

App. St. 35
GSU 17I wish we could hold a team to 17.

[Skjellyfetti]

I wish we could hold a team to 17.

Appalachian State 20
Samford 7

[Reign of Terrier]

Appalachian State 20
Samford 7

The difference is that Samford has (no offense SU fans) a simpler offense to defend, Wofford last year with all our defensive woes held them to 7. Stop the run and they have trouble. GSU will be a harder team to tame offensively

[Skjellyfetti]

The difference is that Samford has (no offense SU fans) a simpler offense to defend, Wofford last year with all our defensive woes held them to 7. Stop the run and they have trouble. GSU will be a harder team to tame offensively

Yeah, I wasn't saying we are going to hold Georgia Southern to 7... just that we can hold a team to 17. ;)

[mrklean]

GATA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Skjellyfetti]

Cortez Gilbert is now listed as probable. xhypedx

[biggie]

it should be on GoASUtv i would think...that sucks its not available there. guess its pretty much only available in the "braves fans" territory
No video on GoASUTV for any SportsSouth games, contract things.

[appmaj]

No video on GoASUTV for any SportsSouth games, contract things.

Channelsurfing.net let me down last week

[Kill'em]

Another difference between Spread Option and our current offence is (besides explosive potential) is that this offence seems to be less affected by the weather. Chapple didn't have any problem throwing the wet ball. Our guys did a good job of keeping their feet, very little slipping on the wet grass. We should bo fine. Hopefully, Edwards doesn't make the defence slip and slide.

Personally, I look for a high-scoring game.

[AppAlum2003]

Another difference between Spread Option and our current offence is (besides explosive potential) is that this offence seems to be less affected by the weather. Chapple didn't have any problem throwing the wet ball. Our guys did a good job of keeping their feet, very little slipping on the wet grass. We should bo fine. Hopefully, Edwards doesn't make the defence slip and slide.

Personally, I look for a high-scoring game.

With the way the ASU defense has played this year, you can count on a high-scoring game. xbawlingx

[biggie]

Another difference between Spread Option and our current offence is (besides explosive potential) is that this offence seems to be less affected by the weather. Chapple didn't have any problem throwing the wet ball. Our guys did a good job of keeping their feet, very little slipping on the wet grass. We should bo fine. Hopefully, Edwards doesn't make the defence slip and slide.

Personally, I look for a high-scoring game.
So what was with the 1 TD, 3 INTs, and 31 yds rushing on the wet day of Sept 26th then?

[eaglesixonit]

Personally, I think GSU has the ability to defeat App, but we have to play a flawless game. On the flip side, App should be able to get away with making a few mistakes on defense and still be able to hold our offense in check, seeing as we are not exactly an offensive juggernaut. IMO, the game will be decided by our ability to defend. I think we have the best defense we've had in a while, but we are going up against the best offense we've seen this year- including Elon. We'll see how it goes, my heart is telling me 21-20 Eagles xnodx but my head is telling me 31-21 Yosefs xsmhx

[ASU_Fanatic]

Appalachian State 20
Samford 7Don't tell me you think our D is good.

[Skjellyfetti]

Don't tell me you think our D is good.

I didn't say that. Just saying they've already held a team below 17. You said this:


I wish we could hold a team to 17.

We can and we have. xrolleyesx

And, our defense this year is statistically better than the 2007 defense we won a SoCon championship and a National Championship with. xnodx

Opponent's ppg:
2007= 26.7
2009=26.3
Advantage to 2009 defense

Opponent's ypg:
2007= 379.9
2009= 355.2
Advantage to 2009 defense

Opponent's rushing ypg:
2007= 193.3
2009= 179.2
Advantage to 2009 defense

Opponent's passing ypg:
2007= 186.6
2009= 176.0
Advantage to 2009 defense

Everybody complained all year about that defense's lack of ability at stopping the run. Exactly what I've been hearing this year. In 2007 our defense stepped up and played lights out at the end of the year. I think they will this year as well. You can feel free to abandon all hope if you wish, though.

[JROCK98]

Weather is now looking a little better for Saturday. Chance of morning showers with partial clearing later in the day but it looks like it will be windy!

[biggie]

That 20mph wind and cooling temps through the day should make it interesting. Probably feel like the 30s by the 4th quarter.

[CrackerRiley]

So, from what it looks like, a water pipe burst under Rivers St. today and completely fu**ed traffic all through campus. Water was flowing through the asphalt (sp) Hopefully they can fix it before game day.

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

I didn't say that. Just saying they've already held a team below 17. You said this:



We can and we have. xrolleyesx

And, our defense this year is statistically better than the 2007 defense we won a SoCon championship and a National Championship with. xnodx

Opponent's ppg:
2007= 26.7
2009=26.3
Advantage to 2009 defense

Opponent's ypg:
2007= 379.9
2009= 355.2
Advantage to 2009 defense

Opponent's rushing ypg:
2007= 193.3
2009= 179.2
Advantage to 2009 defense

Opponent's passing ypg:
2007= 186.6
2009= 176.0
Advantage to 2009 defense

Everybody complained all year about that defense's lack of ability at stopping the run. Exactly what I've been hearing this year. In 2007 our defense stepped up and played lights out at the end of the year. I think they will this year as well. You can feel free to abandon all hope if you wish, though.

Thing is, by the 6th game last year you had already played Michigan, Wofford, Elon, and Northern Arizona. I'd take that group of offenses over the offenses App. has faced so far this year. Still, ASU' D is better than a lot of ASU fans give it credit for.

[CamelCityAppFan]

So, from what it looks like, a water pipe burst under Rivers St. today and completely fu**ed traffic all through campus. Water was flowing through the asphalt (sp) Hopefully they can fix it before game day.

lol, that used to happen "back in the day" when I was there...

[hippy@GSU]

So, from what it looks like, a water pipe burst under Rivers St. today and completely fu**ed traffic all through campus. Water was flowing through the asphalt (sp) Hopefully they can fix it before game day.

Sabotage by covert GSU operatives.


Anyway... I am pumped for this game. This will be my first trip to Boone for a football game.

Beautiful Eagle Creek Water will be secretly carried into the stadium and poured onto the field. This will be the Kiss of Death.

[T-Dog]

So, from what it looks like, a water pipe burst under Rivers St. today and completely fu**ed traffic all through campus. Water was flowing through the asphalt (sp) Hopefully they can fix it before game day.

A undercover GaSo agent must have accidentally let a jar of "Beautiful" Eagle Creek water fall into the sewer.

[straightshooter]

I didn't say that. Just saying they've already held a team below 17. You said this:



We can and we have. xrolleyesx

And, our defense this year is statistically better than the 2007 defense we won a SoCon championship and a National Championship with. xnodx

Opponent's ppg:
2007= 26.7
2009=26.3
Advantage to 2009 defense

Opponent's ypg:
2007= 379.9
2009= 355.2
Advantage to 2009 defense

Opponent's rushing ypg:
2007= 193.3
2009= 179.2
Advantage to 2009 defense

Opponent's passing ypg:
2007= 186.6
2009= 176.0
Advantage to 2009 defense

Everybody complained all year about that defense's lack of ability at stopping the run. Exactly what I've been hearing this year. In 2007 our defense stepped up and played lights out at the end of the year. I think they will this year as well. You can feel free to abandon all hope if you wish, though.

These numbers might be skewed a bit, since I think the strength of schedule in '07was better than '09. Don't remember App having won four straight games in '07 with opponents' combined records being 6-20 like this season.

[Kill'em]

A undercover GaSo agent must have accidentally let a jar of "Beautiful" Eagle Creek water fall into the sewer.

Actually, we're putting it into your drinking water. xwhistlex

[biggie]

Actually, we're putting it into your drinking water. xwhistlexLike we drink water on gameday. :D

[AppSt.09]

So, from what it looks like, a water pipe burst under Rivers St. today and completely fu**ed traffic all through campus. Water was flowing through the asphalt (sp) Hopefully they can fix it before game day.

Ran into that problem last night. Today it seems like they fixed the problem and covered the hole with lots of gravel so their should be no problem with traffic tomorrow

[Eaglegus2]

With the way the ASU defense has played this year, you can count on a high-scoring game. xbawlingx

Ever notice when you think a game should have a lot of points scored by both teams it ends up being the opposite?

Everyone is expecting quite a few points being on the board.

Here is my prognostification:

App State 19

Georgia Southern 10

xbawlingxxbawlingxxbawlingxxbawlingxxbawlingx

[neersnbeers]

I'm so ready for this

[CrackerRiley]

I'm so ready for this

yeeeeeeeeah boy!!!

Weather isn't going to be great but won't be terrible come game-time.... JUST WINDY!

[T-Dog]

I'm going with my heart on this one.

As Leonidas once said, "This is where they die!"

High Country Hillbillies 55
Gnat Infested Rednecks 7

I'm thinking this is the big blowout for App this year.

[ASU_Fanatic]

So how could is it actually going to be tomorrow?

[SideLine Shooter]

So how could is it actually going to be tomorrow?

Is somebody Drinkin or Smokin?xlolx

[CrackerRiley]

Weather is nearly perfect right now!!! I'm pumped!

Make sure to wear an extra layer though, it's supposed to get pretty gusty.

Have an awesome Saturday everyone! Off to tailgate!

[asknoquarter21]

On my way to Boone right now and every mile I get closer it is looking better and better.

This is Football weather!

[ThompsonThe]

On my way to Boone right now and every mile I get closer it is looking better and better.

This is Football weather!

Sounds like you may have perfect, except windy, weather for the game.

[boonegoon]

Who are these REFS?

[boonegoon]

OK . INstant Karma

[Skjellyfetti]

I wish we could hold a team to 17.

http://fracas.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/genielamp.jpg

Your wish is granted. xnodx






Now, you might want to update your signature... unless you still believe our D "sucks." xwhistlex

[The Cats]

"Georgia Southern @ Appalachian State for all the marbles....."

wishful thinking on someone's part from the start.

[blueballs]

"Georgia Southern @ Appalachian State for all the marbles....."

wishful thinking on someone's part from the start.

Not really, App played the bully, beat up GSU and took their marbles.:D

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

"Georgia Southern @ Appalachian State for all the marbles....."

wishful thinking on someone's part from the start.

Ummm...what are you talking about? Did you not read my explanation in the OP?