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smallcollegefbfan
October 9th, 2009, 10:05 AM
Next week every team except those in the Ivy League will have played 5 or 6 games. I will post an updated list next week for the official mid-season list but thought I would go ahead and post some names for people to get an early gauge.

I based this on 3 things. Stats, team success, and if it was close between two players I did go by name a good bit. Such as putting Edwards from ASU 3rd team because he missed a game and they have had a bye week so his numbers probably don't warrant it now but I did not want to leave him off because we all know he is the best in FCS. Because his numbers aren't up there though I put him 3rd team. Guys who have been yearly all-americans that have not had huge numbers such as Roberts from Citadel I dropped a peg or two from where they were in the preseason to keep them alive since it is still early. I figured that here in about 3 or 4 weeks though we will likely know roughly 80 percent of the names that will be on the postseason list.

EARLY MID-SEASON FCS ALL-AMERICA TEAMS

FIRST TEAM OFFENSE
WR Terrell Hudgins, Elon, Sr.
WR Juamorris Stewart, Southern, Sr.
TE Clay Harbor, Missouri State, Sr.
OT Vladimir Ducasse, UMASS, Sr.
OT Ben Ijalana, Villanova, Jr.
OG David Arkin, Missouri State, Jr.
OG Jeff Hansen, Montana State, Sr.
C Austin Steichen, Northern Iowa, Sr.
QB Ryan Perrilloux, Jacksonville State, Sr.
RB Pat Paschall, North Dakota State, Sr.
RB Deji Karim, Southern Illinois, Sr.

FIRST TEAM DEFENSE
DL Danny Batten, South Dakota State, Sr.
DL Larry Hart, Central Arkansas, Sr.
DL James Ruffin, Northern Iowa, Sr.
DL Jeremy Maddox, Alabama A&M, Sr.
LB D.J. Smith, Appalachian State, Jr.
LB Elijah Hodge, Northern Iowa, Sr.
LB J.C. Sherritt, Eastern Washington, Jr.
DB Patrick Stoudamire, Western Illinois, Sr.
DB Trumaine Johnson, Montana, Soph.
DB Ross Ventrone, Villanova, Sr.
DB Jeremy Caldwell, Eastern Kentucky, Soph.

FIRST TEAM SPECIALISTS
K Armando Cuko, UMASS, Sr.
P Eric Fisher, Montana State, Sr.
RS Leroy Vann, Florida A&M, Sr.

SECOND TEAM OFFENSE
WR Lito Senatus, Western Illinois, Jr.
WR Andre’ Roberts, The Citadel, Sr.
TE Mike Caussin, James Madison, Sr.
OT Derek Hardman, Eastern Kentucky, Sr.
OT James Williams, Harvard, Sr.
OG Keith Buckman, North Dakota State, Sr.
OG Chaz Millard, Eastern Illinois, Sr.
C Kyle Mutcher, Weber State, Sr.
QB Dominic Randolph, Holy Cross, Sr.
RB Toddrick Pendland, McNeese State, Sr.
RB Taiwan Jones, Eastern Washington, Soph.

SECOND TEAM DEFENSE
DL Austen Lane, Murray State, Sr.
DL Tim Knicky, Stephen F. Austin, Sr.
DL Arthur Moats, James Madison, Sr.
DL Christian Anthony, Grambling State, Sr.
LB Alex DiMichele, Robert Morris, Jr.
LB Devon Jackson, New Hampshire, Jr.
LB Kadarron Anderson, Furman, Soph.
DB Kevin Thornton, Arkansas-Pine Bluff, Sr.
DB Dino Vasso, New Hampshire, Jr.
DB Erik Stoll, Montana, Jr.
DB Korey Lindsey, Southern Illinois, Jr.

SECOND TEAM SPECIALISTS
K Evan Engwall, Stephen F. Austin, Sr.
P Jon Vanderwielen, Idaho State, Sr.
RS Contrevious Parks, Stephen F. Austin, Sr.

THIRD TEAM OFFENSE
WR Chris Bell, Norfolk State, Jr.
WR Jason Madkins, Sam Houston State, Sr.
TE Stephen Skelton, Fordham, Jr.
OT Austin Howard, Northern Iowa, Sr.
OT Shawn Smith, Southern Illinois, Sr.
OG Ryan Foster, North Dakota State, Sr.
OG J.C. Oram, Weber State, Soph.
C Reggie Wade, Jacksonville State, Sr.
QB Armanti Edwards, Appalachian State, Sr.
RB David Sinisi, Monmouth, Sr.
RB Kyle Minett, South Dakota State, Jr.

THIRD TEAM DEFENSE
DL Grant Hunter, Butler, Soph.
DL Andre Campbell, Elon, Sr.
DL Dane Fletcher, Montana State, Sr.
DL Martin Parker, Richmond, Jr.
LB Brandin Jordan, Southern Illinois, Sr.
LB A.J. Storms, Idaho State, Soph.
LB DeJuan Fulghum, Texas Southern, Jr.
DB Charles Graves, Delaware, Sr.
DB Max Lerner, Furman, Jr.
DB Jeromy Miles, UMASS, Sr.
DB James Pitts, Villanova, Soph.

THIRD TEAM SPECIALISTS
K Wesley Skiffington, Stony Brook, Fr.
P Scott Ravanesi, Southern Illinois, Sr.
RS Deji Karim, Southern Illinois, Sr.

bluehenbillk
October 9th, 2009, 10:31 AM
Don't you have to play in the majority of games to make a post-season team Armanti Edwards?

smallcollegefbfan
October 9th, 2009, 10:37 AM
Don't you have to play in the majority of games to make a post-season team Armanti Edwards?

The ONLY reason Edwards is here is because we all know he is a great player and his numbers in the last two games have been very good. He also had good numbers in the second half against McNeese State. Basically his current numbers are through two and a half games. His rushing numbers are very impressive. He will certainly drop on my official mid-season list if he doesn't have a big game this weekend.

bluehenbillk
October 9th, 2009, 10:40 AM
The ONLY reason Edwards is here is because we all know he is a great player and his numbers in the last two games have been very good. He also had good numbers in the second half against McNeese State. Basically his current numbers are through two and a half games. His rushing numbers are very impressive. He will certainly drop on my official mid-season list if he doesn't have a big game this weekend.

So you're admitting it's not really based on what you've done this year performance-wise but it's more important as to whether you're a returning all-conference player or on the pre-season all-conference team(s). xthumbsupx

UNIFanSince1983
October 9th, 2009, 10:44 AM
Wow 3 AA running backs in the Valley, and 2 of them are first team. Looks like our defense has it's work cut out for them with all 3 of them coming in a row xeekx

And nice to see Hodge getting the recognition. He has been very important to our defense even though he has fought through a foot injury. He had a big game in only half a game against Indiana State last weekend, and I think we can expect more of the same to come. He is always all over the field!

Green26
October 9th, 2009, 10:48 AM
D-backs Schillinger and Johnson of Montana certainly deserve their placement on this team, as they are very good and having terrific seasons. Mariani, the Montana receiver, will be an all-american this year. He's playing well, recovered from an early season injury, catching and returning well, and should start to rack up bigger numbers as the season goes on. His averages per catch and return are already good.

Without suggesting that Montana's qb Selle should be an all-american, I believe he's no. 4 in the nation in passing efficiency.

smallcollegefbfan
October 9th, 2009, 10:49 AM
So you're admitting it's not really based on what you've done this year performance-wise but it's more important as to whether you're a returning all-conference player or on the pre-season all-conference team(s). xthumbsupx

No that is not the case at all. With it being pretty early still I am not going to take a known player who has done it for 3 years off for a player nobody has heard of or seen quite yet. These players coming out of nowhere will either start to drop off in production as teams adjust to them or if they are great players they will keep it up. Cameron Higgins was on the list in the preseason but has 10 INTs right now so I did not put him on. If you have seen Edwards play this year you know he is playing great. His numbers just aren't gaudy yet because he has missed one game, they had a bye week, and his first game back he was very rusty in the first half. I am really just giving him the benefit of the doubt because we all know he will really start lighting it up over the next few weeks. If his numbers aren't impressive this weekend though I will certainly drop him.

Who would you put on the list over Edwards?

smallcollegefbfan
October 9th, 2009, 10:52 AM
D-backs Schillinger and Johnson of Montana certainly deserve their placement on this team, as they are very good and having terrific seasons. Mariani, the Montana receiver, will be an all-american this year. He's playing well, recovered from an early season injury, catching and returning well, and should start to rack up bigger numbers as the season goes on. His averages per catch and return are already good.

Without suggesting that Montana's qb Selle should be an all-american, I believe he's no. 4 in the nation in passing efficiency.

You mean Stoll right? I put Stoll because he stood out a little more when I saw Montana play. I think Schillinger is a name that could pop back on here though.

Yeah I almost put Mariani back on here but I knew he had been slowed by injury and wanted to see how he comes back from it.

I like Selle. The problem with him is that it seemed early on he and Roper both were playing. Hard for a QB to put up All-American numbers when a team is playing two guys. Does it seem that Selle is going to be the no. 1 from here on out?

smallcollegefbfan
October 9th, 2009, 10:53 AM
Wow 3 AA running backs in the Valley, and 2 of them are first team. Looks like our defense has it's work cut out for them with all 3 of them coming in a row xeekx

And nice to see Hodge getting the recognition. He has been very important to our defense even though he has fought through a foot injury. He had a big game in only half a game against Indiana State last weekend, and I think we can expect more of the same to come. He is always all over the field!

I really like Hodge. He is a good player. Just wish he didn't have his injury past because I know that will likely hurt him in the eyes of the NFL.

lucchesicourt
October 9th, 2009, 10:55 AM
Chris Carter, WR UCD. no where to be seen?

danefan
October 9th, 2009, 10:56 AM
Who would you put on the list over Edwards?

Moses from Stephen F. Austin

1309 yrds, 16 TDs in 4 games.

Regardless of who they have played, those are All-american numbers.

smallcollegefbfan
October 9th, 2009, 11:05 AM
Chris Carter, WR UCD. no where to be seen?

I might put him on over Madkins next week. Will be curious to see how they do. I will say this. Carter likely gets drafted and is the better player in my opinion. I am trying to balance this though and not put guys on only because of NFL stock.

smallcollegefbfan
October 9th, 2009, 11:07 AM
Moses from Stephen F. Austin

1309 yrds, 16 TDs in 4 games.

Regardless of who they have played, those are All-american numbers.

I saw him last year and he threw way too many INTs. He has 7 this year. I want to see if he keeps throwing 1-2 each week or if it tapers off and he keeps it under 10-12 for the year. He is a name I am looking at for sure though.

LAWdiddy
October 9th, 2009, 11:08 AM
So Riddle and Campbell from Elon don't make first team, and Riddle doesn't even make 3rd team? Riiiiigggghhhhhtttt

smallcollegefbfan
October 9th, 2009, 11:12 AM
So Riddle and Campbell from Elon don't make first team, and Riddle doesn't even make 3rd team? Riiiiigggghhhhhtttt

I had a lot of trouble trying to figure out where to put Campbell because I have not seen him play yet. I will watch him later today or early next week and if he looks better than one of those guys up top I will definitely add him to the 1st or 2nd team. Not sure who you would put Riddle over. I almost put Riddle but was not sure who to put him over. I will be curious to see how the games go this weekend because if Edwards only has 200 yards and 2 TDs or so and Riddle has around 350 and 4 TDs then Riddle will leap frog him.

Seawolf97
October 9th, 2009, 11:42 AM
Glad to see out Freshman Kicker getting some recognition. Still has 3 1/2 seasons left.

TexasTerror
October 9th, 2009, 01:01 PM
Don't you have to play in the majority of games to make a post-season team Armanti Edwards?

Most All-American ballots require at least participation in 60% of the sets (VB), 60% of the snaps (FB), etc.

We all know that SmallCollegeFBFan is a big Appy State fan, right? Sometimes he can separate it, sometimes he can not. Not like this is an official listing anyway...

I will acknowledge that SHSU's Madkins does not really deserve to be on this list.


Who would you put on the list over Edwards?

Anyone who would be eligible! Though I guess when you support someone as much as AE, you can bend it, eh?

AppIAA
October 9th, 2009, 01:28 PM
Most All-American ballots require at least participation in 60% of the sets (VB), 60% of the snaps (FB), etc.

We all know that SmallCollegeFBFan is a big Appy State fan, right? Sometimes he can separate it, sometimes he can not. Not like this is an official listing anyway...

I will acknowledge that SHSU's Madkins does not really deserve to be on this list.



Anyone who would be eligible! Though I guess when you support someone as much as AE, you can bend it, eh?

App has played 4 games, AE has played in 3 of them.. Assuming (i know what happens when we assume) there is an equal amount of snaps in each game, thats 75%...

75 > 60 (or so I thought)

Again, I know that is assuming the same amount of snaps have been taken in each game, but I have a hard time imagining there is a big enough difference to make up 15%

asknoquarter21
October 9th, 2009, 01:33 PM
Stats are certainly important in determining all Americans, but don't necessarily mean everything. Obviously you need good numbers to be an all American, but often times systems can inflate those systems as well as competition.

People saying AE is not an all American either think he isn't the same player that has dominated FCS the last few years because of some certain injury, or think he just isn't deserving.

If you think there are 3 better QBs in FCS than Armanti then obviously he shouldn't be all American, but looking just at numbers at this point isn't seeing the whole picture. When I look at all Americans I think of the best player at that position and a player you just don't want to have to play. No doubt Armanti is in that category.

AE has played in 75% of his teams games so he is eligable.

danefan
October 9th, 2009, 01:34 PM
Most All-American ballots require at least participation in 60% of the sets (VB), 60% of the snaps (FB), etc.

We all know that SmallCollegeFBFan is a big Appy State fan, right? Sometimes he can separate it, sometimes he can not. Not like this is an official listing anyway...



???? Not sure I've ever seen SCFBF do anything to indicate he is biased towards one team or another.

PantherRob82
October 9th, 2009, 01:36 PM
???? Not sure I've ever seen SCFBF do anything to indicate he is biased towards one team or another.

I agree.

TexasTerror
October 9th, 2009, 01:39 PM
He's actually played 2.5 games - so slightly over 60% at 62.5% - but the fact remains - even if Appy has played four games, not sure how you can judge him on the same level as those who have played more games and those who have produced better results on the field...

Either way...

Ryan Perriloux
Pat Grace
Derrick Fourroux

I'd rank all THREE above Armanti...

NDB
October 9th, 2009, 01:40 PM
Great to see Paschall make the list. He is truly deserving and a joy to watch.

AppIAA
October 9th, 2009, 01:40 PM
He's actually played 2.5 games - so slightly over 60% at 62.5% - but the fact remains - even if Appy has played four games, not sure how you can judge him on the same level as those who have played more games and those who have produced better results on the field...


2.5? No, he has started and played 3 games... But apparently, you follow app more than us App fans do and know more about the team xeyebrowx xwhistlex

TexasTerror
October 9th, 2009, 01:42 PM
2.5? No, he has started and played 3 games... But apparently, you follow app more than us App fans do and know more about the team xeyebrowx xwhistlex

Okay, you are correct...just checked the stats. For some reason, I thought he was pulled halfway through a game.

I stand corrected...

asknoquarter21
October 9th, 2009, 02:33 PM
I'm starting to realize why app isn't in your playoff predictions. Haha

Seriously though I feel Armanti might be taking a hit from Devon Moore having so much success. If you look at the stats it certainly doesn't do justice for what he has done this season.

I can't say I have seen Grace play this season which leads me to believe this is more worthless than before. Unless you have seen a guy play you really only have a small sample of performances to judge from and there is a lot of football left to play.

FormerPokeCenter
October 9th, 2009, 02:36 PM
It's hard for me to take this seriously, considering that Pendland started the season as the First Team All American and now has been demoted to something less than that, despite leading the nation in scoring and doing it against App State, a FBS and only playing a partial game against an overmatched opponent...

ToTheLeft
October 9th, 2009, 02:51 PM
Maybe BJ Coleman from Chatty? Someone to think about other than the same old same old that we automatically put onto these lists. 9/1 TD/INT ratio including the 4 TD performance against Wofford...

Sader87
October 9th, 2009, 05:16 PM
Next week every team except those in the Ivy League will have played 5 or 6 games. I will post an updated list next week for the official mid-season list but thought I would go ahead and post some names for people to get an early gauge.

I based this on 3 things. Stats, team success, and if it was close between two players I did go by name a good bit. Such as putting Edwards from ASU 3rd team because he missed a game and they have had a bye week so his numbers probably don't warrant it now but I did not want to leave him off because we all know he is the best in FCS. Because his numbers aren't up there though I put him 3rd team. Guys who have been yearly all-americans that have not had huge numbers such as Roberts from Citadel I dropped a peg or two from where they were in the preseason to keep them alive since it is still early. I figured that here in about 3 or 4 weeks though we will likely know roughly 80 percent of the names that will be on the postseason list.

EARLY MID-SEASON FCS ALL-AMERICA TEAMS

FIRST TEAM OFFENSE
WR Terrell Hudgins, Elon, Sr.
WR Juamorris Stewart, Southern, Sr.
TE Clay Harbor, Missouri State, Sr.
OT Vladimir Ducasse, UMASS, Sr.
OT Ben Ijalana, Villanova, Jr.
OG David Arkin, Missouri State, Jr.
OG Jeff Hansen, Montana State, Sr.
C Austin Steichen, Northern Iowa, Sr.
QB Dominic Randolph, College of the Holy Cross, Sr.
RB Pat Paschall, North Dakota State, Sr.
RB Deji Karim, Southern Illinois, Sr.

FIRST TEAM DEFENSE
DL Danny Batten, South Dakota State, Sr.
DL Larry Hart, Central Arkansas, Sr.
DL James Ruffin, Northern Iowa, Sr.
DL Jeremy Maddox, Alabama A&M, Sr.
LB D.J. Smith, Appalachian State, Jr.
LB Elijah Hodge, Northern Iowa, Sr.
LB J.C. Sherritt, Eastern Washington, Jr.
DB Patrick Stoudamire, Western Illinois, Sr.
DB Trumaine Johnson, Montana, Soph.
DB Ross Ventrone, Villanova, Sr.
DB Jeremy Caldwell, Eastern Kentucky, Soph.

FIRST TEAM SPECIALISTS
K Armando Cuko, UMASS, Sr.
P Eric Fisher, Montana State, Sr.
RS Leroy Vann, Florida A&M, Sr.

SECOND TEAM OFFENSE
WR Lito Senatus, Western Illinois, Jr.
WR Andre’ Roberts, The Citadel, Sr.
TE Mike Caussin, James Madison, Sr.
OT Derek Hardman, Eastern Kentucky, Sr.
OT James Williams, Harvard, Sr.
OG Keith Buckman, North Dakota State, Sr.
OG Chaz Millard, Eastern Illinois, Sr.
C Kyle Mutcher, Weber State, Sr.
QB No one close to Dom.
RB Toddrick Pendland, McNeese State, Sr.
RB Taiwan Jones, Eastern Washington, Soph.

SECOND TEAM DEFENSE
DL Austen Lane, Murray State, SR
DL Tim Knicky, Stephen F. Austin, Sr.
DL Arthur Moats, James Madison, Sr.
DL Christian Anthony, Grambling State, Sr.
LB Alex DiMichele, Robert Morris, Jr.
LB Devon Jackson, New Hampshire, Jr.
LB Kadarron Anderson, Furman, Soph.
DB Kevin Thornton, Arkansas-Pine Bluff, Sr.
DB Dino Vasso, New Hampshire, Jr.
DB Erik Stoll, Montana, Jr.
DB Korey Lindsey, Southern Illinois, Jr.

SECOND TEAM SPECIALISTS
K Evan Engwall, Stephen F. Austin, Sr.
P Jon Vanderwielen, Idaho State, Sr.
RS Contrevious Parks, Stephen F. Austin, Sr.

THIRD TEAM OFFENSE
WR Chris Bell, Norfolk State, Jr.
WR Jason Madkins, Sam Houston State, Sr.
TE Stephen Skelton, Fordham, Jr.
OT Austin Howard, Northern Iowa, Sr.
OT Shawn Smith, Southern Illinois, Sr.
OG Ryan Foster, North Dakota State, Sr.
OG J.C. Oram, Weber State, Soph.
C Reggie Wade, Jacksonville State, Sr.
QB Armanti Edwards, Appalachian State, Sr.
RB David Sinisi, Monmouth, Sr.
RB Kyle Minett, South Dakota State, Jr.

THIRD TEAM DEFENSE
DL Grant Hunter, Butler, Soph.
DL Andre Campbell, Elon, Sr.
DL Dane Fletcher, Montana State, Sr.
DL Martin Parker, Richmond, Jr.
LB Brandin Jordan, Southern Illinois, Sr.
LB A.J. Storms, Idaho State, Soph.
LB DeJuan Fulghum, Texas Southern, Jr.
DB Charles Graves, Hofstra, Sr.
DB Max Lerner, Furman, Jr.
DB Jeromy Miles, UMASS, Sr.
DB James Pitts, Villanova, Soph.

THIRD TEAM SPECIALISTS
K Wesley Skiffington, Stony Brook, Fr.
P Scott Ravanesi, Southern Illinois, Sr.
RS Deji Karim, Southern Illinois, Sr.



Fixed it for you.

smallcollegefbfan
October 9th, 2009, 06:08 PM
He's actually played 2.5 games - so slightly over 60% at 62.5% - but the fact remains - even if Appy has played four games, not sure how you can judge him on the same level as those who have played more games and those who have produced better results on the field...

Either way...

Ryan Perriloux
Pat Grace
Derrick Fourroux

I'd rank all THREE above Armanti...

I also try to rank players based on how good I think they are when doing this stuff, not just production, even though it is a key part of it. Do you really think all 3 of those guys are better players than AE? I think Grace and Perrilloux can be justified but I believed Pendland is more crucial to McNeese State than Fourroux. This is what makes mid-season awards so tough because it would be criminal to leave AE off but based on numbers you could make a good case for it. I still say if you were picking a FCS All-Star Team that AE would be the number 1 or 2 overall selection from most coaches and thus you can't leave him off a 1st, 2nd, or especially 3rd team.

smallcollegefbfan
October 9th, 2009, 06:10 PM
I'm starting to realize why app isn't in your playoff predictions. Haha

Seriously though I feel Armanti might be taking a hit from Devon Moore having so much success. If you look at the stats it certainly doesn't do justice for what he has done this season.

I can't say I have seen Grace play this season which leads me to believe this is more worthless than before. Unless you have seen a guy play you really only have a small sample of performances to judge from and there is a lot of football left to play.

I have seen Grace and he looks much better than he did last year. I am thoroughly impressed with him, Ward, Fourroux, Edwards, Perrilloux, Babin, Riddle, Lee, and Pulley from what I have seen of these QBs on tape.

smallcollegefbfan
October 9th, 2009, 06:12 PM
Fixed it for you.

:) Randolph is a very good one. This is tough picking a team of QBs. Almost any 3 you pick you are leaving off 3-4 other good ones. Put Grace, Randolph, and Perrilloux on and you leave off Edwards, Lee, Pulley, etc. Put Ward, Perrilloux, Edwards on and you leave off well you get the picture. This is very tough to pick right now. Maybe I should have waited 2-3 more weeks to even try and figure this out. :D

BEAR
October 9th, 2009, 06:59 PM
Here's the SLC Passing efficiency leaders, not yardage, but efficiency.

PASS EFFICIENCY Cl G Comp-Att-Int Pct. Yards TD Long Effic.
1. Williams, Dalto-SFA SO 4 7 - 8 - 0 87.5 233 3 80 455.9
(Williams shouldn't be counted because he's thrown 8 passes. xlolx )
2. Park, Robbie-UCA SR 4 75 - 103 - 2 72.8 901 7 73 164.8
3. Fourroux, Derri-MCN SR 4 68 - 102 - 2 66.7 899 8 68 162.7
4. Moses, Jeremy-SFA JR 4 111 - 169 - 7 65.7 1309 16 74 153.7
5. Babin, Brian-SLU SR 4 93 - 137 - 2 67.9 1058 9 57 151.5
6. Joseph, Blake-SHSU SR 4 64 - 105 - 1 61.0 953 4 51 147.9
7. Wolfe, Tyler-NWLA JR 3 38 - 59 - 2 64.4 396 3 54 130.8
8. Hawkins, Tim-TXST FR 4 4 - 8 - 0 50.0 32 1 16 124.8
9. Beatty, Tyler-SLU JR 3 12 - 19 - 1 63.2 124 1 38 124.8
10. George, Bradley-TXST SR 4 83 - 143 - 7 58.0 1049 6 71 123.7

Bill Hanson
October 9th, 2009, 07:05 PM
ECB

Green26
October 9th, 2009, 08:44 PM
Oops, goofed up the Montana safety. Just assumed it was Schillinger. While Stoll is a good player who is having a good season, Schillinger is a much better player, with much better speed, and is having a very good season. Schillinger is the guy for this list. While Schillinger is not as fast as Mariani or Sambrano, his 40 time for the underclass pro day was 4.43. I expect to see both qb's tomorrow.

HenZoneNation
October 9th, 2009, 09:15 PM
SmallCollegeFBFan....


Charles Graves is from UD not Hofstra...he should be a 1st team ALL-AMERICAN...we have the second hardest schedule in the FCS and he and our secondary for the most part have been rock solid...either way he's from UD.

smallcollegefbfan
October 9th, 2009, 09:30 PM
SmallCollegeFBFan....


Charles Graves is from UD not Hofstra...he should be a 1st team ALL-AMERICAN...we have the second hardest schedule in the FCS and he and our secondary for the most part have been rock solid...either way he's from UD.

Thanks! Major typo! I was thinking Hofstra for some reason and I have no idea why I had Hofstra on my mind when typing up that third team.

DTSpider
October 9th, 2009, 09:56 PM
Odd that a guy like Matt McCracken, a two-time AA selection & preseason 1st team guy has dropped off the list. Richmond hasn't allowed a sack in the 1st 4 games.

Another guy is Justin Rogers. Teams just don't throw his direction so his stats are "down" compared to last year. Once again - preseason 1st team to not listed in 5 weeks.

Regardless - I do understand that it's close to impossible to have a good list - but it does seem odd that these guys could drop that fast.

aggiemba
October 10th, 2009, 12:23 AM
Just more East Coast bias as far as I can tell.

phoenix3
October 10th, 2009, 08:23 AM
QB Dominic Randolph, Holy Crossxlmaox

ASU_Fanatic
October 10th, 2009, 08:45 AM
A guy from Holy Cross over AE makes me laugh. I wanna know how the f you came up with this. And no Mark Legree even though the guy had 10 picks last year.

smallcollegefbfan
October 10th, 2009, 09:35 AM
Odd that a guy like Matt McCracken, a two-time AA selection & preseason 1st team guy has dropped off the list. Richmond hasn't allowed a sack in the 1st 4 games.

Another guy is Justin Rogers. Teams just don't throw his direction so his stats are "down" compared to last year. Once again - preseason 1st team to not listed in 5 weeks.

Regardless - I do understand that it's close to impossible to have a good list - but it does seem odd that these guys could drop that fast.

McCracken is one player I wanted to see before putting him on a list like this and that is why this was an official list because I knew I would see several guys this weekend. I don't think Rogers is going to be a postseason 1st team pick this year but I will see him as well so I will definitely look at putting him on the list. I do feel I need more Richmond players. With JMU being a good team this will be a great game to judge these guys on.

smallcollegefbfan
October 10th, 2009, 09:37 AM
A guy from Holy Cross over AE makes me laugh. I wanna know how the f you came up with this. And no Mark Legree even though the guy had 10 picks last year.

I agree on AE. He has to be on the list at some point. In the games he has played he has been very impressive. LeGree has been average this year. This is the 2009 mid-season list, not 2008 postseason list so I tried to judge based on how these guys are playing this year. LeGree is one player I have seen a couple of times and I must say that while he is playing well that when I do the official list next week he would make 2nd team, at best, based on how he is playing this year compared to last year.

smallcollegefbfan
October 10th, 2009, 09:39 AM
Just more East Coast bias as far as I can tell.

Who all from the Big Sky do you think is missing? I know Chris Carter could be considered a snub. Higgins is not playing well. Toone is one that could get bumped up with a good week, as could Trevyn Smith. The problem is that Weber State has not been playing well. Nate Overbay is one player that I think will end up making the 3rd team. I was looking at numbers more than anything when I did this first guess. Next week I will have a few new names for this list.

profisme
October 10th, 2009, 09:53 AM
I have seen only 2 of the Aggies games this year, but Chris Carter is an absolute stud. He belongs somewhere in here. The other guy who I have a feeling should be in there is Dan Ogden from Montana State.

smallcollegefbfan
October 10th, 2009, 10:03 AM
I have seen only 2 of the Aggies games this year, but Chris Carter is an absolute stud. He belongs somewhere in here. The other guy who I have a feeling should be in there is Dan Ogden from Montana State.

I have seen Carter as well and he is a good one. I fully expect him to get a combine invite and get drafted. Who is Ogden?

Green26
October 10th, 2009, 10:15 AM
Shawn Lebsock, the Montana middle linebacker, is a tremendous player. While he is not big, he makes plays, tackles well, hits very hard, is smart, and is very tough. The Montana coach has said he is as good or better than any linebacker Montana has had in a long time.

An example of his toughness. He was hurt badly late in the first half of the UM v. JMU playoff game--a dislocated elbow, I believe. When I saw him coming slowing off the field, bent over and holding his arm, I thought oh no. It didn't look good while the trainers were evaluating him, and he seemed to be in significant pain. He didn't return to the field after halftime. But early in the third quarter, he returned to the sideline, with his arm all taped up and started warming up. He played much of the rest of the game, as well as in the game in Chattanooga.

Several players on the team, including some of the senior o-lineman from last year, say that the hardest hits they've ever taken have been from Lebsock.

Also, left tackle Levi Horn is still deserving of a look.

profisme
October 10th, 2009, 10:16 AM
Dan Ogden is a beast of a DT for Montana State. He is one of the big reasons the Bobcats beat Weber last weekend. Fletcher gets the press for the MSU defensive line, but Ogden consistently gets pressure and blows plays up in the backfield. He might not have the stats, but anybody who watches the games will tell you he is a difference-maker.

mikebigg
October 10th, 2009, 10:19 AM
Christian Anthony should be 1st Team DL.

smallcollegefbfan
October 10th, 2009, 11:13 AM
Shawn Lebsock, the Montana middle linebacker, is a tremendous player. While he is not big, he makes plays, tackles well, hits very hard, is smart, and is very tough. The Montana coach has said he is as good or better than any linebacker Montana has had in a long time.

An example of his toughness. He was hurt badly late in the first half of the UM v. JMU playoff game--a dislocated elbow, I believe. When I saw him coming slowing off the field, bent over and holding his arm, I thought oh no. It didn't look good while the trainers were evaluating him, and he seemed to be in significant pain. He didn't return to the field after halftime. But early in the third quarter, he returned to the sideline, with his arm all taped up and started warming up. He played much of the rest of the game, as well as in the game in Chattanooga.

Several players on the team, including some of the senior o-lineman from last year, say that the hardest hits they've ever taken have been from Lebsock.

Also, left tackle Levi Horn is still deserving of a look.

Horn is on my list but there are so many great tackles this year. Hardman, Ijalana, and Ducasse all have to be on a AA list and then it is hard to leave James Williams off. Howard of UNI and Smith of SIU are big reasons why their lines are so dominant. When I saw Montana earlier in the year I felt bad for Horn because he was playing well but it is hard to put him over any of those others.

smallcollegefbfan
October 10th, 2009, 11:13 AM
Dan Ogden is a beast of a DT for Montana State. He is one of the big reasons the Bobcats beat Weber last weekend. Fletcher gets the press for the MSU defensive line, but Ogden consistently gets pressure and blows plays up in the backfield. He might not have the stats, but anybody who watches the games will tell you he is a difference-maker.

I will look at him. Thanks!

smallcollegefbfan
October 10th, 2009, 11:16 AM
Christian Anthony should be 1st Team DL.

Like OT, DE is very deep this year with so many great ends. Would you put Anthony over Maddox? I have seen all of my linemen on the first and second team and Ruffin, Batten, and Hart have to be there, in my opinion. Maddox is the one player I could see someone putting Anthony ahead of. In many years Lane, Knicky, and Moats would be first teamers. This just goes to show you how deep the FCS is at certain positions. QB, RB, OT, DE, and S are very deep with players likely to make the 3rd team that would be 1st teamers in other years. And on the opposite end it seems that center, defensive tackle, and TE are pretty thin this year. If not for the breakout year by Caussin to make up for Sicko having a down year then TE would be very weak overall.

PhoenixSupreme
October 10th, 2009, 11:31 AM
I'm definitely glad you included Elon's Andre Campbell on one of the teams. He certainly deserves recognition from the way he's been playing this year.

Green26
October 10th, 2009, 11:02 PM
Mariani, the Montana receiver:

6 catches for 200 yards and 2 TD's with a long of 84. The other TD was 68 yards. He made nice cuts and then ran away from the (speedy) Cal Poly d-backs on both TD's.

As the CP fans what they think of Mariani.

Not only is Mariani an all-american, he should be on the Payton Watch list and should have been on the list at the start of the year. He's a great player and a game changer.

LAWdiddy
October 10th, 2009, 11:54 PM
still don't think riddle and campbell deserve first team recognition???

Green26
October 11th, 2009, 04:15 PM
Several stats on Mariani, Montana's speedy receiver.

1st in nation in TD's per reception: 5 TD's in 22 receptions.

2nd in nation in yards per reception: 22.36.

8th in nation in TD catches.

8th in nation in punt returns: 16.33 yard average. (This is 1st among players on top 25 teams.)

smcwildcat
October 11th, 2009, 06:09 PM
where is scott sicko and or dino vasso????

DTSpider
October 11th, 2009, 07:18 PM
McCracken is one player I wanted to see before putting him on a list like this and that is why this was an official list because I knew I would see several guys this weekend. I don't think Rogers is going to be a postseason 1st team pick this year but I will see him as well so I will definitely look at putting him on the list. I do feel I need more Richmond players. With JMU being a good team this will be a great game to judge these guys on.

Fair enough.

If you're "looking" for other Richmond players, I'd have to imagine that Eric McBride will be hard to ignore. I know that LB is always really deep, but he's really playing well this year.

smallcollegefbfan
October 11th, 2009, 07:37 PM
where is scott sicko and or dino vasso????

Vasso is on my list. Sicko has not had a very good year so I don't expect to put him on.

lionsrking2
October 11th, 2009, 08:32 PM
Simmie Yarborough needs to be in there somewhere...he's a BEAST!!!

mikebigg
October 12th, 2009, 11:19 AM
Like OT, DE is very deep this year with so many great ends. Would you put Anthony over Maddox? I have seen all of my linemen on the first and second team and Ruffin, Batten, and Hart have to be there, in my opinion. Maddox is the one player I could see someone putting Anthony ahead of. In many years Lane, Knicky, and Moats would be first teamers. This just goes to show you how deep the FCS is at certain positions. QB, RB, OT, DE, and S are very deep with players likely to make the 3rd team that would be 1st teamers in other years. And on the opposite end it seems that center, defensive tackle, and TE are pretty thin this year. If not for the breakout year by Caussin to make up for Sicko having a down year then TE would be very weak overall.

Chris has been a playmaker all year... in the top 5 in tackles despite being a defensive lineman. Not a rush end, but a guy who puts his hand on the ground. This despite folk trying to run from him. Had 12 total (11 individuals) against FBS Okie State as he was unblockable.

Also has 4 ints...2 he returned for tds, 1 he lateraled to a db for a td, and one he got pushed out of bounds inside the 5. Again...not a rush end, but a down lineman who has mastered deflecting screens and stealing them. Would have had 5, but a deflection against JSU was caught by the qb so Chris tackled him for the sack. A dominant player! Suffered a groin injury against Okie State but continues to play well... had an int this past weekend also.


http://www.swac.org/sports/m-footbl/stats/2009-2010/confldrs.html#conf.wi2

TACKLES (All positions) Cl G Pos. Solo Ast. Total Avg/G Sacks
1. JOSEPH,Robert-TXSO FR 4 DB 23 29 52 13.0 0.0
2. FULGHUM,Dejuan-TXSO JR 5 LB 21 30 51 10.2 4.0
3. SENCHEREY,Max-PVAM JR 4 LB 6 28 34 8.5 1.0
4. CRAGIN, Josh-ALCN JR 4 LB 19 13 32 8.0 0.0
5. ANTHONY,Christi-GSU JR 6 DE 36 10 46 7.7 3.5


INTERCEPTIONS Cl G No. Yards TD Long Avg/G
1. THORNTON,Kevin-UAPB SR 5 6 156 2 36 1.20
2. HOUSE,Jason-SU JR 5 4 111 0 44 0.80
3. ANTHONY,Christi-GSU JR 6 4 100 2 31 0.67

GannonFan
October 12th, 2009, 11:21 AM
Just keep watching out for Pat Devlin, QB from Delaware. 2nd straight week he takes CAA Offensive POW honors. xthumbsupx

93henfan
October 12th, 2009, 11:23 AM
Just keep watching out for Pat Devlin, QB from Delaware. 2nd straight week he takes CAA Offensive POW honors. xthumbsupx

History is not on his side. First round NFL draft picks don't even warrant Walter Payton Award consideration in FCS. xlolx

bluehenbillk
October 12th, 2009, 11:28 AM
Transfer Bias

GannonFan
October 12th, 2009, 11:31 AM
History is not on his side. First round NFL draft picks don't even warrant Walter Payton Award consideration in FCS. xlolx

Still one of the most glaring omissions ever in Payton Award ballot history - not that he didn't win, but that he couldn't even crack the final ballot. xsmhx

GannonFan
October 12th, 2009, 11:31 AM
Transfer Bias

Yup - no FBS transfer has ever won the award, and I don't see how one ever will. xsmhx

smallcollegefbfan
October 12th, 2009, 12:22 PM
Still one of the most glaring omissions ever in Payton Award ballot history - not that he didn't win, but that he couldn't even crack the final ballot. xsmhx

Devlin should be on the revised Payton list, depending on how many guys are taken off. This is going to be interetsing because there are several guys that could come off or stay on, depending on how it is looked at. For example, I have not been impressed with the Samford RB but he leads the SoCon in rushing so does he stay on despite his play even though he is leading the SoCon in rushing in a year down year? Another one that could come off or stay on is Reynolds at Montana because he is doing well but does Mariani or someone else who is hot take his spot? Will Ford has been solid but nothing special so far and so I could see him going either way.

I do think that Karim and Paschall have to be on the updated list. After that it is a toss up as to who is on the next revision. We have a revision in October but they never said the date, I don't think, but I would still expect to see one this week without any inside knowledge on if we are or not.

PaladinNation
October 12th, 2009, 01:28 PM
I was about to give you the smack-down when I saw DJ Smith listed as the first team linebacker. But you have Kadarron Anderson listed on the second team. Right now Kadarron leads the SoCon averaging 11.8 tackles a game. And he is going to get better… Due to no pre-season pub Kadarron has an uphill fight to get post-season awards but he will be at the top of the list for the next two years.

smallcollegefbfan
October 12th, 2009, 01:34 PM
I was about to give you the smack-down when I saw DJ Smith listed as the first team linebacker. But you have Kadarron Anderson listed on the second team. Right now Kadarron leads the SoCon averaging 11.8 tackles a game. And he is going to get better… Due to no pre-season pub Kadarron has an uphill fight to get post-season awards but he will be at the top of the list for the next two years.

After seeing the games this weekend and taking the production into account I bumped up Kadarron. Here is my first team defense now. I think Thornton and Heath are deserving because they have been red hot as of late. What some don't know is that Thornton had an INT in that Alcorn State game that was not finished and he has one less INT in the NCAA stats than he should really have. I think Ruffin, Moats, Batten, Hart, and the LBs are very strong. DB has a lot of no names but Stoudamire and Thornton are very good players that don't get enough hype. Johnson is going to be a future star. Heath is a wild card because he could potentially have huge numbers before the end of the year and with JSU ranked high he should start to get recognition.

FIRST TEAM DEFENSE
DL Danny Batten, South Dakota State, Sr.
DL Larry Hart, Central Arkansas, Sr.
DL James Ruffin, Northern Iowa, Sr.
DL Arthur Moats, James Madison, Sr.
LB D.J. Smith, Appalachian State, Jr.
LB Kadarron Anderson, Furman, Soph.
LB J.C. Sherritt, Eastern Washington, Jr.
DB Patrick Stoudamire, Western Illinois, Sr.
DB Trumaine Johnson, Montana, Soph.
DB Kevin Thornton, Arkansas-Pine Bluff, Sr.
DB T.J. Heath, Jacksonville State, Jr.

UNHFootballAlum
October 12th, 2009, 02:07 PM
Vasso is on my list. Sicko has not had a very good year so I don't expect to put him on.

Sicko has been double or triple teamed in his 1st four games. Against Villanova, he was not doubled and that led to 3 catches for 135 yrds. Are the other TE's on your list being doubled and tripled throughout their games?

smallcollegefbfan
October 12th, 2009, 02:19 PM
Sicko has been double or triple teamed in his 1st four games. Against Villanova, he was not doubled and that led to 3 catches for 135 yrds. Are the other TE's on your list being doubled and tripled throughout their games?

Sicko did not make the list because his numbers were down as much as his blocking is still about the same. it is good enough for this level but the TEs on my list block and catch well enough for the NFL. If Sicko could have a couple more big games he might make the 2nd or 3rd team though. Harbor and Overbay are way underrated entering the year and I think Caussin has been impressive. Harbor gets double teamed a good bit. Overbay is tough to double because they run that spread and have 2-3 other pass catchers with talent so you can't double any of their guys.

Green26
October 12th, 2009, 03:15 PM
Thanks for doing the mid-season team, SmallCollege. That was interesting to look at, and sparked an interesting discussion.

smallcollegefbfan
October 12th, 2009, 05:59 PM
Thanks for doing the mid-season team, SmallCollege. That was interesting to look at, and sparked an interesting discussion.

No problem! In fact, here is an updated list I was able to put together. Anyone have a a player they feel got snubbed?

MID-SEASON FCS ALL-AMERICA TEAMS

FIRST TEAM OFFENSE
WR Terrell Hudgins, Elon, Sr.
WR Juamorris Stewart, Southern, Sr.
TE Clay Harbor, Missouri State, Sr.
OT Vladimir Ducasse, UMASS, Sr.
OT Ben Ijalana, Villanova, Jr.
OG David Arkin, Missouri State, Jr.
OG Matt McCracken, Richmond, Sr.
C Austin Steichen, Northern Iowa, Sr.
QB Ryan Perrilloux, Jacksonville State, Sr.
RB Pat Paschall, North Dakota State, Sr.
RB Deji Karim, Southern Illinois, Sr.

FIRST TEAM DEFENSE
DL Danny Batten, South Dakota State, Sr.
DL Larry Hart, Central Arkansas, Sr.
DL James Ruffin, Northern Iowa, Sr.
DL Arthur Moats, James Madison, Sr.
LB D.J. Smith, Appalachian State, Jr.
LB Kadarron Anderson, Furman, Soph.
LB J.C. Sherritt, Eastern Washington, Jr.
DB Patrick Stoudamire, Western Illinois, Sr.
DB Trumaine Johnson, Montana, Soph.
DB Kevin Thornton, Arkansas-Pine Bluff, Sr.
DB T.J. Heath, Jacksonville State, Jr.

FIRST TEAM SPECIALISTS
K Armando Cuko, UMASS, Sr.
P Pedro Ventura, Prairie View A&M, Jr.
RS Leroy Vann, Florida A&M, Sr.

SECOND TEAM OFFENSE
WR Tim Toone, Weber State, Sr.
WR Marc Mariani, Montana, Sr.
TE Nate Overbay, Eastern Washington, Sr.
OT Derek Hardman, Eastern Kentucky, Sr.
OT James Williams, Harvard, Sr.
OG Keith Buckman, North Dakota State, Sr.
OG Jeff Hansen, Montana State, Sr.
C Kyle Mutcher, Weber State, Sr.
QB Pat Grace, Northern Iowa, Sr.
RB Toddrick Pendland, McNeese State, Sr.
RB Taiwan Jones, Eastern Washington, Soph.

SECOND TEAM DEFENSE
DL Austen Lane, Murray State, Sr.
DL Tim Knicky, Stephen F. Austin, Sr.
DL Jeremy Maddox, Alabama A&M, Sr.
DL Adrian Tracy, William & Mary, Sr.
LB Alex DiMichele, Robert Morris, Jr.
LB Devon Jackson, New Hampshire, Jr.
LB Elijah Hodge, Northern Iowa, Sr.
DB Mark LeGree, Appalachian State, Jr.
DB Justin Rogers, Richmond, Sr.
DB Jeromy Miles, UMASS, Sr.
DB Korey Lindsey, Southern Illinois, Jr.

SECOND TEAM SPECIALISTS
K Evan Engwall, Stephen F. Austin, Sr.
P Eric Fisher, Montana State, Sr.
RS Scotty McGee, James Madison, Sr.

THIRD TEAM OFFENSE
WR Ed Berry, Northern Arizona, Sr.
WR Eyad Salem, Illinois State, Sr.
TE Mike Caussin, James Madison, Sr.
OT Austin Howard, Northern Iowa, Sr.
OT Shawn Smith, Southern Illinois, Sr.
OG Ryan Foster, North Dakota State, Sr.
OG Chaz Millard, Eastern Illinois, Sr.
C Reggie Wade, Jacksonville State, Sr.
QB Dominic Randolph, Holy Cross, Sr.
RB David Sinisi, Monmouth, Sr.
RB Kyle Minett, South Dakota State, Jr.

THIRD TEAM DEFENSE
DL Christian Anthony, Grambling State, Sr.
DL Andre Campbell, Elon, Sr.
DL Dane Fletcher, Montana State, Sr.
DL Martin Parker, Richmond, Jr.
LB Brandin Jordan, Southern Illinois, Sr.
LB A.J. Storms, Idaho State, Soph.
LB DeJuan Fulghum, Texas Southern, Jr.
DB Donye McCleskey, Indiana State, Sr.
DB Kenneth Brown, UC Davis, Sr.
DB Jeremy Caldwell, Eastern Kentucky, Soph.
DB Dino Vasso, New Hampshire, Jr.

THIRD TEAM SPECIALISTS
K Wesley Skiffington, Stony Brook, Fr.
P Jon Vanderwielen, Idaho State, Sr.
RS Deji Karim, Southern Illinois, Sr.

FOURTH TEAM OFFENSE
WR Chris Carter, UC Davis, Sr.
WR Simmie Yarbrough, Southeastern Louisiana, Soph.
TE Stephen Skelton, Fordham, Jr.
OT Lane Freiwald, Central Arkansas, Sr.
OT Will Rackley, Lehigh, Jr.
OG Hunter Schmidt, Sam Houston State, Sr.
OG Dorian Brooks, James Madison, Sr.
C Kyle Mutcher, Weber State, Sr.
QB Scott Riddle, Elon, Jr. tie Pat Devlin, Delaware, Jr.
RB David McCarty, Albany, Sr.
RB Trevyn Smith, Weber State, Sr.

FOURTH TEAM DEFENSE
DL Kendrick Ellis, Hampton, Jr.
DL Markell Carter, Central Arkansas, Jr.
DL Wes Lane, Northern Iowa, Sr.
DL Mychal Savage, Youngstown State, Sr.
LB Kyle Glazier, Western Illinois, Jr.
LB Rob Damon, Rhode Island, Jr.
LB Antoine Wilkinson, Missouri State, Jr.
DB Ross Ventrone, Villanova, Sr.
DB Erik Stoll, Montana, Jr.
DB Mike McElroy, Southern Illinois, Jr.
DB Marcus Dorsey, Central Connecticut State, Sr.

FOURTH TEAM SPECIALISTS
K Brian Pate, William & Mary, Sr.
P Scott Ravanesi, Southern Illinois, Sr.
RS Todd Speight, Western Illinois, Jr.

OFFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR: RB Deji Karim, Southern Illinois, Sr.
DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR: DE James Ruffin, Northern Iowa, Sr.

JohnStOnge
October 12th, 2009, 06:54 PM
Toderick Pendland has a groin injury and will probably not see action for at least a few games. Consideration of him as an "All American" is probably over. But, hopefully, he'll be back in time to help McNeese make the playoffs.

Green26
October 12th, 2009, 07:19 PM
Glad to see Mariani on the list. Again, Schillinger is a better player than Stoll, having a better season, and I can't imagine he doesn't deserve to be on the list. Thanks.

smallcollegefbfan
October 12th, 2009, 07:32 PM
Glad to see Mariani on the list. Again, Schillinger is a better player than Stoll, having a better season, and I can't imagine he doesn't deserve to be on the list. Thanks.

I am ready to see them again and will take another look. We still have time for things to play out. I think both safeties will get NFL looks when their careers are done.

bluehenbillk
October 12th, 2009, 08:12 PM
After having seen UMass in person I'll concur Cuko has a strong leg and Miles is a player. Ducasse however showed me nothing, no way he's a 1st teamer unless he was playing hurt. Couldn't run block and pass blocks like a turnstile.

No Charles Graves at safety???

asknoquarter21
October 12th, 2009, 09:24 PM
I seemed to have missed Armanti Edwards on the list.

Did he have a bad week that I somehow missed?

smallcollegefbfan
October 12th, 2009, 09:39 PM
I seemed to have missed Armanti Edwards on the list.

Did he have a bad week that I somehow missed?

No. Just felt the other QBs have had better seasons so far.

smallcollegefbfan
October 12th, 2009, 09:39 PM
After having seen UMass in person I'll concur Cuko has a strong leg and Miles is a player. Ducasse however showed me nothing, no way he's a 1st teamer unless he was playing hurt. Couldn't run block and pass blocks like a turnstile.

No Charles Graves at safety???

Interesting you say that about Ducasse. I saw him earlier in the year and he was a stud. He must be hurt or something. He has a Shrine game invite and is being talked about as a 3rd or 4th rounder among NFL personnel.

Chi Panther
October 12th, 2009, 09:47 PM
I'm not saying DJ Hord should be an AA, UNI spreads the ball around, we usually don't have guys put up huge numbers under Farley.....but I have a hard time thinking he is not a top 10 WR in FCS

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-D.J.-Hord-14546

CrackerRiley
October 12th, 2009, 10:14 PM
I seemed to have missed Armanti Edwards on the list.

Did he have a bad week that I somehow missed?

Yeah, he didn't even break 100yds rushing. Got a measly 97... Only 3 TDs as well. I call that an off week for him. xsmiley_wix

asu70
October 12th, 2009, 11:02 PM
Yeah, he didn't even break 100yds rushing. Got a measly 97... Only 3 TDs as well. I call that an off week for him. xsmiley_wix

but... you forgot the int. that he threw saturday which made him 77-111-1 that computes to 69.4% completion rate...plus he's only passed for 993 yards. and ran for 329 yards at a 5.8 yards a carry with 3 passing and 7 running TDS...but it's taken him four games to do this after missing spring practice because of surgery for injuries which occurred in the previous season and missing all of summer camp and the first game due to 30 plus stitches after a lawn mower accident...maybe he'll be back to his old self in a few more games.

skinny_uncle
October 12th, 2009, 11:51 PM
Great to see Paschall make the list. He is truly deserving and a joy to watch.
Unless you are playing against him.
xnodx

smallcollegefbfan
October 13th, 2009, 10:45 AM
but... you forgot the int. that he threw saturday which made him 77-111-1 that computes to 69.4% completion rate...plus he's only passed for 993 yards. and ran for 329 yards at a 5.8 yards a carry with 3 passing and 7 running TDS...but it's taken him four games to do this after missing spring practice because of surgery for injuries which occurred in the previous season and missing all of summer camp and the first game due to 30 plus stitches after a lawn mower accident...maybe he'll be back to his old self in a few more games.

I believe I said before that his numbers are good and that is not why I did not put him on the list. The reason I did not put him on is because his numbers aren't better than the four listed there. Randolph is putting together a simply dominant and clear cut OFF POY performance in the Patriot League while Grace is leading the #2 team with great numbers right now. Then you have Perrilloux who is going to be the OFF POY in the OVC and has his team looking like a top 10. Riddle has better numbers overall than AE except he has one more interception. Devlin is red hot for Delaware and has two straight OFF POW awards from the CAA (the best league in FCS right now). While I agree with you that AE is deserving of mention you have to forget what he has done previously. Just look at his season as a whole right now for 2009 and nothing else. I know he missed 1 game and they have had a bye week but his numbers aren't better than those others.

Stat comparison
Randolph- #1 in passing yards per game, 1,697 yards, 15 TDs, 5 INTs, 64%. He does not have near the talent AE has. In fact if Randolph was playing for ASU I think his numbers would look more like 2,400 yards, 22 TDs, 2 INTs, 69% at this point.

Riddle- #7 in passing yards per game, 1,799 yards, 13 TDs, 2 INTs, 64%. Based on 2009 only is the front runner as OFF POY in SoCon.

Devlin- #12 in passing yards per game, 1,536 yards, 11 TDs, 3 INTs, 66%. Again like Randolph doesn't have near the talent AE has around him. Likely CAA OFF POY.

Perrilloux- #13 in passing yards per game, 1,279 yards, 15 TDs, 1 INT, 61%, played very well against 2 FBS teams. Likely OFF POY in CAA.

Grace- #20 in passing yards per game, 1,470 yards, 15 TDs, 2 INTs, 67%, almost beat a top 20 FBS team, If not for Karim's video game type numbers would be favorite for OFF POY in MVFC.

Edwards- #18 in passing yards per game, 993 yards, 3 TDs, 1 INT, 69%. 266 rush yards, 7 TDs. Likely 2nd team All-SoCon as of now.

His completion percentage is the best but yards per game, TDs and nowhere near the others. Unlike the other 4 schools, except for Holy Cross losing last week, ASU is not a very impressive team right now either. Another thing to note is that in points responsible for Edwards is either only tied or clearly behind all 4 QBs. I also think Riddle is the only one out of this group of 5 players that won't get a shot in the NFL.

I want to note that things can change and in 3 weeks Edwards could be the hot name and a front runner to repeat again but has ground to make up. I think this just shows that Edwards is doing well but has ground to make up as 4 others are playing great. If ASU wins the next 4 games and Edwards is putting up 3-4 TDs in each game then his name will creep back up the list and likely to 1st or 2nd team.

mikebigg
October 13th, 2009, 11:10 AM
http://sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/fcsawards/index.aspx

Chris Anthony

PhoenixPhan06
October 15th, 2009, 01:12 PM
I'd like to see Andre Campbell a little higher but its still early and he has a few more sacks left in him.

aggiemba
October 15th, 2009, 01:13 PM
Chris Carter UCD has got to be on this list

PhoenixMan
October 15th, 2009, 01:48 PM
Good list. However, a list without Scott Riddle showing up as the QB on at least one of the teams isn't accurate.

Silenoz
October 15th, 2009, 02:16 PM
Who all from the Big Sky do you think is missing? I know Chris Carter could be considered a snub. Higgins is not playing well. Toone is one that could get bumped up with a good week, as could Trevyn Smith. The problem is that Weber State has not been playing well. Nate Overbay is one player that I think will end up making the 3rd team. I was looking at numbers more than anything when I did this first guess. Next week I will have a few new names for this list.
Mariani is a snub, he should at least be on the 3rd team over Chris Bell