Sports Network Poll - 10/5/09

[The Moody1]

Sports Network's FCS College Football Poll
Team (First-place votes) Record Points Previous Rank
1. Richmond Spiders (106) 4-0 3,394 1
2. Villanova Wildcats (26) 5-0 3,312 2
3. Northern Iowa Panthers (5) 4-1 3,151 3
4. Montana Grizzlies (1) 4-0 2,965 4
5. New Hampshire Wildcats (1) 4-0 2,857 6
6. Southern Illinois Salukis 3-1 2,651 8
7. McNeese State Cowboys 3-1 2,445 9
8. William & Mary Tribe 4-1 2,384 5
9. Appalachian State Mountaineers 2-2 2,179 10
10. Elon Phoenix 4-1 2,124 12
11. Central Arkansas Bears 3-1 1,997 13
12. Massachusetts Minutemen 3-1 1,789 14
13. James Madison Dukes 2-2 1,650 7
14. Eastern Washington Eagles 4-1 1,374 17
15. Cal Poly Mustangs 2-2 1,338 19
16. Eastern Kentucky Colonels 3-1 1,255 18
17. South Carolina State Bulldogs 3-1 1,240 15
18. Jacksonville State Gamecocks 3-2 1,091 20
19. Holy Cross Crusaders 4-0 939 21
20. South Dakota State Jackrabbits 3-1 932 16
21. Weber State Wildcats 2-3 852 11
22. Florida A&M Rattlers 4-0 677 24
23. Colgate Raiders 5-0 626 25
24. Montana State Bobcats 3-1 354 NR
25. Eastern Illinois Panthers 4-1 284 23
Others receiving votes: Liberty 199, Stephen F. Austin 159, Harvard 111, Prairie View A&M 101, Hofstra 98, Delaware 79, Texas State 79, Northern Arizona 59, Furman 54, Samford 39, Alabama A&M 31, Gardner-Webb 24, Northwestern State 23, Chattanooga 22, Lehigh 22, Monmouth 21, Butler 20, Wofford 17, Lafayette 16, Sam Houston State 16, Albany 14, Georgia Southern 14, Missouri State 14, Grambling 12, Youngstown State 12, Howard 8, Jacksonville 7, Brown 6, Morgan State 6, Illinois State 5, UC Davis 5, Southern Utah 4, Central Connecticut State 3, Delaware State 3, Drake 3, Northern Carolina A&T 2, Southern 2, Columbia 1, Dayton 1, Tennessee Tech 1, The Citadel 1, North Dakota 1.
As of October 5, 2009, at 01:52 PM ET

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/misc/TSN-DIV-1AA-POLL.htm

[andy7171]

The same Montana guy apparently votes on this poll too.

[89Hen]

Others receiving votes: Lehigh 22, Monmouth 21, Youngstown State 12, Howard 8, Jacksonville 7, Brown 6, Morgan State 6, Illinois State 5, UC Davis 5, Delaware State 3, etc....
IT'S OFFICIAL. Coulson has lost complete control of his poll. xnonono2x xsmhx xcoolx

[93henfan]

Yeah, this is pretty good comedy. Unfortunately, it may hurt a deserving team come playoff time.

[IaaScribe]

Isn't Lehigh 0-4?

[ToTheLeft]

I seriously hope it's just a software glitch or something that causes these ridiculous ORV's.

[GannonFan]

Isn't Lehigh 0-4?

Yeah, but without a doubt they are the best 0-4 team in the nation!!! xlolx

[Husky Alum]

Northeastern will give any 0-4 team a run for their money.

Until the coin toss is over.

[WestCoastAggie]

YAY! A&T got votes! xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx

[WestCoastAggie]

Sports Network's FCS College Football Poll
Team (First-place votes) Record Points Previous Rank
1. Richmond Spiders (106) 4-0 3,394 1
2. Villanova Wildcats (26) 5-0 3,312 2
3. Northern Iowa Panthers (5) 4-1 3,151 3
4. Montana Grizzlies (1) 4-0 2,965 4
5. New Hampshire Wildcats (1) 4-0 2,857 6
6. Southern Illinois Salukis 3-1 2,651 8
7. McNeese State Cowboys 3-1 2,445 9
8. William & Mary Tribe 4-1 2,384 5
9. Appalachian State Mountaineers 2-2 2,179 10
10. Elon Phoenix 4-1 2,124 12
11. Central Arkansas Bears 3-1 1,997 13
12. Massachusetts Minutemen 3-1 1,789 14
13. James Madison Dukes 2-2 1,650 7
14. Eastern Washington Eagles 4-1 1,374 17
15. Cal Poly Mustangs 2-2 1,338 19
16. Eastern Kentucky Colonels 3-1 1,255 18
17. South Carolina State Bulldogs 3-1 1,240 15
18. Jacksonville State Gamecocks 3-2 1,091 20
19. Holy Cross Crusaders 4-0 939 21
20. South Dakota State Jackrabbits 3-1 932 16
21. Weber State Wildcats 2-3 852 11
22. Florida A&M Rattlers 4-0 677 24
23. Colgate Raiders 5-0 626 25
24. Montana State Bobcats 3-1 354 NR
25. Eastern Illinois Panthers 4-1 284 23
Others receiving votes: Liberty 199, Stephen F. Austin 159, Harvard 111, Prairie View A&M 101, Hofstra 98, Delaware 79, Texas State 79, Northern Arizona 59, Furman 54, Samford 39, Alabama A&M 31, Gardner-Webb 24, Northwestern State 23, Chattanooga 22, Lehigh 22, Monmouth 21, Butler 20, Wofford 17, Lafayette 16, Sam Houston State 16, Albany 14, Georgia Southern 14, Missouri State 14, Grambling 12, Youngstown State 12, Howard 8, Jacksonville 7, Brown 6, Morgan State 6, Illinois State 5, UC Davis 5, Southern Utah 4, Central Connecticut State 3, Delaware State 3, Drake 3, Northern Carolina A&T 2, Southern 2, Columbia 1, Dayton 1, Tennessee Tech 1, The Citadel 1, North Dakota 1.
As of October 5, 2009, at 01:52 PM ET

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/misc/TSN-DIV-1AA-POLL.htm

HOWARD??? FOR REAL xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx

[WestCoastAggie]

I wonder if the ones voting for Drake are getting confused with the former Degrassi Actor turned Rapper/Singer who dropped the critically acclaimed mixtape "So Far Gone"? xlolx

[aceinthehole]

Sports Network's FCS College Football Poll
Others receiving votes: Liberty 199, Stephen F. Austin 159, Harvard 111, Prairie View A&M 101, Hofstra 98, Delaware 79, Texas State 79, Northern Arizona 59, Furman 54, Samford 39, Alabama A&M 31, Gardner-Webb 24, Northwestern State 23, Chattanooga 22, Lehigh 22, Monmouth 21, Butler 20, Wofford 17, Lafayette 16, Sam Houston State 16, Albany 14, Georgia Southern 14, Missouri State 14, Grambling 12, Youngstown State 12, Howard 8, Jacksonville 7, Brown 6, Morgan State 6, Illinois State 5, UC Davis 5, Southern Utah 4, Central Connecticut State 3, Delaware State 3, Drake 3, Northern Carolina A&T 2, Southern 2, Columbia 1, Dayton 1, Tennessee Tech 1, The Citadel 1, North Dakota 1.
As of October 5, 2009, at 01:52 PM ET

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/misc/TSN-DIV-1AA-POLL.htm

Enough said!

[soccerguy315]

how can you possibly vote for an 0-4 team... wtf.

[crusader11]

Enough said!

That is pretty ridiculous.

[darell1976]

We got 1 vote. Hooray!!

[LIONFAN85]

How is Northwestern State getting votes?

[kdinva]

IT'S OFFICIAL. Coulson has lost complete control of his poll. xnonono2x xsmhx xcoolx
Maybe he turned over the poll to that "Acorn" group.xsmhx

[kdinva]

Yeah, this is pretty good comedy. Unfortunately, it may hurt a deserving team come playoff time.
Really. Lehigh? why not Campbell, Presby., Indiana St. Sac. Heart, and Dartmouth?

[kdinva]

How is Northwestern State getting votes?
Their SID is kin to Lehigh's?xbeerchugx

[WestCoastAggie]

Maybe he turned over the poll to that "Acorn" group.xsmhx

Come on! The Acorn group??? xeyebrowx xlolx

[GOKATS]

What a joke!! If Lehigh deserves 22 votes Idaho St. deserves at least 25.xoopsx

Somebody ain't paying attention.xnonox

[ISUMatt]

Illinois State 5,

LOLOLOLOL NO F'IN WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[aceinthehole]

IT'S OFFICIAL. Coulson has lost complete control of his poll. xnonono2x xsmhx xcoolx

Honestly, will somone from Sports Network come out and provide some explanation for this BS? If not, do they really expect to remain a credible news outlet with crap like this?

[WestCoastAggie]

Honestly, will somone from Sports Network come out and provide some explanation for this BS? If not, do they really expect to remain a credible news outlet with crap like this?

Credible? xwhistlex

[katstrapper]

xlmaox
IT'S OFFICIAL. Coulson has lost complete control of his poll. xnonono2x xsmhx xcoolx

I would agree with that. How Sam Houston gets 16 votes is beyond me.xlolxxlolx

[danefan]

The answer is that TSN has no control over its voters homer votes and there are very little requirements to even get a vote in the TSN poll.

They won't make it public who votes, but if my understanding is correct, its anyone who is somehow considered a member of the media (e.g. broadcaster, reporter, SID, etc.). Not exactly the cream of the crop when it comes to national FCS knowledge.

The funny thing is, I posted a preseason poll done by FCS Now.com and got a whole bunch of crap from some folks on this board who are self-aclaimed members of the "FCS Media". The reason I got that crap - the poll wouldn't list who their voters were.

[aceinthehole]

The answer is that TSN has no control over its voters homer votes and there are very little requirements to even get a vote in the TSN poll.

They won't make it public who votes, but if my understanding is correct, its anyone who is somehow considered a member of the media (e.g. broadcaster, reporter, SID, etc.). Not exactly the cream of the crop when it comes to national FCS knowledge.

The funny thing is, I posted a preseason poll done by FCS Now.com and got a whole bunch of crap from some folks on this board who are self-aclaimed members of the "FCS Media". The reason I got that crap - the poll wouldn't list who their voters were.

Yeah. I understand a coaches poll (usually completed by SIDs or possibly asst coaches) probably won't include a public record - I get that. These guys/teams work against each other and you have to just hope their personal/institutional integrity is sound.

But media polls should have a public record of votes! Why should some PT beat writer who doesn't follow FCS on a national level get to vote for some undeserving teams.

I'll also admit that spots 1-15 are fairly good in all the polls. You can debate finer points, but they are all in the ballpark. It's the votes after that need much more evaluation. It's just too easy to vote for any team you like without doing some real research.

[DSUrocks07]

YAY! A&T got votes! xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx

You mean for the great Northern Carolina A&T University??? xsmiley_wix

[danefan]

Yeah. I understand a coaches poll (usually completed by SIDs or possibly asst coaches) probably won't include a public record - I get that. These guys/teams work against each other and you have to just hope their personal/institutional integrity is sound.

But media polls should have a public record of votes! Why should some PT beat writer who doesn't follow FCS on a national level get to vote for some undeserving teams.

I'll also admit that spots 1-15 are fairly good in all the polls. You can debate finer points, but they are all in the ballpark. It's the votes after that need much more evaluation. It's just too easy to vote for any team you like without doing some real research.


And I agree with your sentiment - but here's the kicker - the coaches poll does have a public record!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.soconsports.com/fls/4000/socon/FCS/polls/09polls/index_files/Page354.htm

[appfan2008]

what a joke... it is sad that we put this out to the national media as if it is serious...

[Go...gate]

Where the hell is Princeton? They beat 0-4 Lehigh!

Princeton also lost the The Citadel and Columbia by a combined total of 76-7, but who cares?

[McNeese75]

How is Northwestern State getting votes?

Peveto must be voting ;)

[Pitz]

Lehigh 22

One vote is laughable.

22 votes is...something else.

[smallcollegefbfan]

Sports Network's FCS College Football Poll
Team (First-place votes) Record Points Previous Rank
1. Richmond Spiders (106) 4-0 3,394 1
2. Villanova Wildcats (26) 5-0 3,312 2
3. Northern Iowa Panthers (5) 4-1 3,151 3
4. Montana Grizzlies (1) 4-0 2,965 4
5. New Hampshire Wildcats (1) 4-0 2,857 6
6. Southern Illinois Salukis 3-1 2,651 8
7. McNeese State Cowboys 3-1 2,445 9
8. William & Mary Tribe 4-1 2,384 5
9. Appalachian State Mountaineers 2-2 2,179 10
10. Elon Phoenix 4-1 2,124 12
11. Central Arkansas Bears 3-1 1,997 13
12. Massachusetts Minutemen 3-1 1,789 14
13. James Madison Dukes 2-2 1,650 7
14. Eastern Washington Eagles 4-1 1,374 17
15. Cal Poly Mustangs 2-2 1,338 19
16. Eastern Kentucky Colonels 3-1 1,255 18
17. South Carolina State Bulldogs 3-1 1,240 15
18. Jacksonville State Gamecocks 3-2 1,091 20
19. Holy Cross Crusaders 4-0 939 21
20. South Dakota State Jackrabbits 3-1 932 16
21. Weber State Wildcats 2-3 852 11
22. Florida A&M Rattlers 4-0 677 24
23. Colgate Raiders 5-0 626 25
24. Montana State Bobcats 3-1 354 NR
25. Eastern Illinois Panthers 4-1 284 23
Others receiving votes: Liberty 199, Stephen F. Austin 159, Harvard 111, Prairie View A&M 101, Hofstra 98, Delaware 79, Texas State 79, Northern Arizona 59, Furman 54, Samford 39, Alabama A&M 31, Gardner-Webb 24, Northwestern State 23, Chattanooga 22, Lehigh 22, Monmouth 21, Butler 20, Wofford 17, Lafayette 16, Sam Houston State 16, Albany 14, Georgia Southern 14, Missouri State 14, Grambling 12, Youngstown State 12, Howard 8, Jacksonville 7, Brown 6, Morgan State 6, Illinois State 5, UC Davis 5, Southern Utah 4, Central Connecticut State 3, Delaware State 3, Drake 3, Northern Carolina A&T 2, Southern 2, Columbia 1, Dayton 1, Tennessee Tech 1, The Citadel 1, North Dakota 1.
As of October 5, 2009, at 01:52 PM ET

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/misc/TSN-DIV-1AA-POLL.htm

I already posted this earlier today. What happened to the thread? Someone say something they shouldn't?

[Mod66]

I already posted this earlier today. What happened to the thread?

This thread was posted nearly a half hour before you posted a duplicate of it.

[EKUSteve]

I have no complaints about where EKU is rated. We barely lost to a 3-2 Big Ten team and have three conference wins. The only FCS OOC game we have is not until Nov 14 (W. Carolina) and our other remaining OOC game is Kentucky. So we really won't know how we truly stand against the elite of FCS until playoff time as long as we get there.

Again, we have to take it one step at a time and see how it falls out. I do like the progress we are making.

[smallcollegefbfan]

This thread was posted nearly a half hour before you posted a duplicate of it.

Ah okay I was wondering! I did not see it when I posted. My apologies. I just know the mods don't like duplicate threads. Thanks!

[R.A.]

HOWARD??? FOR REAL xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx

Keep that laughs coming. A&T travels to DC this yeah.

[Engineer91]

This is really ridiculous. They could even save some face by only including teams with a minimum number of votes ... say half the number of ballots (sort of implying they are on half the ballots at 25). In that case the release would like the following

Team (First-place votes) Record Points Previous Rank
1. Richmond Spiders (106) 4-0 3,394 1
2. Villanova Wildcats (26) 5-0 3,312 2
3. Northern Iowa Panthers (5) 4-1 3,151 3
4. Montana Grizzlies (1) 4-0 2,965 4
5. New Hampshire Wildcats (1) 4-0 2,857 6
6. Southern Illinois Salukis 3-1 2,651 8
7. McNeese State Cowboys 3-1 2,445 9
8. William & Mary Tribe 4-1 2,384 5
9. Appalachian State Mountaineers 2-2 2,179 10
10. Elon Phoenix 4-1 2,124 12
11. Central Arkansas Bears 3-1 1,997 13
12. Massachusetts Minutemen 3-1 1,789 14
13. James Madison Dukes 2-2 1,650 7
14. Eastern Washington Eagles 4-1 1,374 17
15. Cal Poly Mustangs 2-2 1,338 19
16. Eastern Kentucky Colonels 3-1 1,255 18
17. South Carolina State Bulldogs 3-1 1,240 15
18. Jacksonville State Gamecocks 3-2 1,091 20
19. Holy Cross Crusaders 4-0 939 21
20. South Dakota State Jackrabbits 3-1 932 16
21. Weber State Wildcats 2-3 852 11
22. Florida A&M Rattlers 4-0 677 24
23. Colgate Raiders 5-0 626 25
24. Montana State Bobcats 3-1 354 NR
25. Eastern Illinois Panthers 4-1 284 23

Others receiving votes (min 67): Liberty 199, Stephen F. Austin 159, Harvard 111, Prairie View A&M 101, Hofstra 98, Delaware 79, Texas State 79

If the above was the release there would not be nearly the comments. There would certainly still be issues but it might not result in complete an utter disbelief like when you see 0-4 Lehigh getting 22 votes.

[89Hen]

If the above was the release there would not be nearly the comments. There would certainly still be issues but it might not result in complete an utter disbelief like when you see 0-4 Lehigh getting 22 votes.
You are correct that the comments would be fewer, but the toothpaste is already out of the tube. I sure hope the NCAA Selection Committee sees this poll for what it's worth now, and it sure aint much. xsmhx

[Engineer91]

You are correct that the comments would be fewer, but the toothpaste is already out of the tube. I sure hope the NCAA Selection Committee sees this poll for what it's worth now, and it sure aint much. xsmhx

I certainly don't disagree. But do they have to keep smearing it all over the mirror? xlolx

[darell1976]

How is Northwestern State getting votes?

Since we beat them on the road shouldn't we have 1 more vote than them at least.;)

[letsgopards04]

Isn't Lehigh 0-4?

And a 3-1 Lafayette team with less votes kill them.

[putter]

Coulson has ties to AGS, why doesn't he incorporate this poll - at least somewhat? People voting here at least have knowledge of what is going on. It is not perfect but look at what is getting passed out to the nation? AGS is probably better.