View Full Version : Ohio State Player Suspended for Helmet to Helmet Hit
aust42
September 29th, 2009, 12:37 PM
Wow, I didn't realize this was a new rule. I didn't see the hit that got the Ohio State suspended but I hope they do not enforce it like the NFL does which is completely outrageous in my opinion. Unfortunately it seems like the NCAA is enacting to many of these pu$$ey rules which used to make college football so much better than the NFL. Their are just way too many flags on defenders in the NFL for basic routine hits. I hope college doesn't get that bad. Suspending a player for one game seems harsh.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2009/09/ohio-states-coleman-gets-suspension-for-hit-on-illinois-qb-mcgee/1
Grizzaholic
September 29th, 2009, 12:44 PM
One thing I have noticed this year from watching games from around the nation...FCS and FBS, Personal Fouls Late Hits and Unsportsmanlike penalties are up from last year. Anybody else see this trend? It seems that every game there is atleast a couple of each.
Big Al
September 29th, 2009, 12:47 PM
I know some people see it as "pu$$ification" of the sport but the reality is the NCAA and NFL are trying to protect both the players and their organizations from the negative effects caused by concussions.
Concussions are a lot more dangerous than people realize and multiple concussions, which aren't uncommon in football, multiply the long-term ramifications. My wife has worked with some athletes with multiple concussions and she was surprised to see the level of neurological damage from supposedly "minor" concussions. I, for one, wonder if Tebow will really be ready for Florida's next game -- if he gets another concussion before the end fo the season, his long-term prognosis is a little scary.
I like football and the physicality that goes along with it, but our heads aren't replaceable. If you're gonna put the hit on someone, do it in the spleen.
Ivytalk
September 29th, 2009, 01:22 PM
"Helmut to Helmut"? Is that two Germans duking it out, like Hans and Franz?:D
ngineer
September 29th, 2009, 02:11 PM
]"Helmut to Helmut"? Is that two Germans duking it out, like Hans and Franz?:D[/B]
You beat me to it!xlolx I was picturing those same two SNL weightlifters going at it..I knew a Helmut in high school and he was somewhat of a dork, so his face on the Hans and Franz characters tears me upxrotatehx
aust42
September 29th, 2009, 03:09 PM
I know some people see it as "pu$$ification" of the sport but the reality is the NCAA and NFL are trying to protect both the players and their organizations from the negative effects caused by concussions.
Concussions are a lot more dangerous than people realize and multiple concussions, which aren't uncommon in football, multiply the long-term ramifications. My wife has worked with some athletes with multiple concussions and she was surprised to see the level of neurological damage from supposedly "minor" concussions. I, for one, wonder if Tebow will really be ready for Florida's next game -- if he gets another concussion before the end fo the season, his long-term prognosis is a little scary.
I like football and the physicality that goes along with it, but our heads aren't replaceable. If you're gonna put the hit on someone, do it in the spleen.
It's fine to enact rules to protect players however the way the NFL enforces it is entirely too strict. The "roughing the QB" is the perfect example. A defender gets a roughing the passer these days for touching the QB's helmet after he throws the ball. All these other "roughing" penalities called on the defense are suspect 90% of the time too. There is no common sense used by the officials. These suspect calls can completely change the outcome of a game which is the shame of it all.
That's what really seperated the NFL from College football. College football was still football, now it's starting to regress to the NFL's rules of "safety".
19Duke97
September 29th, 2009, 04:07 PM
Wow, I didn't realize this was a new rule. I didn't see the hit that got the Ohio State suspended but I hope they do not enforce it like the NFL does which is completely outrageous in my opinion. Unfortunately it seems like the NCAA is enacting to many of these pu$$ey rules which used to make college football so much better than the NFL. Their are just way too many flags on defenders in the NFL for basic routine hits. I hope college doesn't get that bad. Suspending a player for one game seems harsh.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2009/09/ohio-states-coleman-gets-suspension-for-hit-on-illinois-qb-mcgee/1
While I'm not a huge fan of the rule, i have to say headhunting for it's own sake is dangerous. I did not see the play, but I think there are obvious cases and not so obvious ones. What i can't stand more is when a guy cranks another and then dances over him like some jacka$$. Totally uncalled for in those cases, and I think further warrants a suspension. Things move very fast in football, and sometimes you hit helmet to helmet by accident. Prob is intent is hard to prove/disprove after the fact.
Big Al
September 29th, 2009, 05:19 PM
When it comes to concusssions, I'll be honest and say I'm biased and think they should be treated with a lot more concern than currently. Which is saying something because they have all ramped up their action over concussions. Some of the anecdotes are scary -- football greats dying in their 40s & 50s with Alzheimer's-like symptoms and the autopsy reports say they have the brains of 80 year olds! I really, truly don't think people have a good understanding of the risk.
I think some of these other rules are in place because 1)they're trying to eliminate the most likely plays that cause career-ending injuries and 2) players are multi-million dollar investments for teams and they're simply trying to protect their investments.
Money changes the game and there is certainly a lot of money in college & pro ball.
It's fine to enact rules to protect players however the way the NFL enforces it is entirely too strict. The "roughing the QB" is the perfect example. A defender gets a roughing the passer these days for touching the QB's helmet after he throws the ball. All these other "roughing" penalities called on the defense are suspect 90% of the time too. There is no common sense used by the officials. These suspect calls can completely change the outcome of a game which is the shame of it all.
That's what really seperated the NFL from College football. College football was still football, now it's starting to regress to the NFL's rules of "safety".
aust42
September 29th, 2009, 05:35 PM
When it comes to concusssions, I'll be honest and say I'm biased and think they should be treated with a lot more concern than currently. Which is saying something because they have all ramped up their action over concussions. Some of the anecdotes are scary -- football greats dying in their 40s & 50s with Alzheimer's-like symptoms and the autopsy reports say they have the brains of 80 year olds! I really, truly don't think people have a good understanding of the risk.
I think some of these other rules are in place because 1)they're trying to eliminate the most likely plays that cause career-ending injuries and 2) players are multi-million dollar investments for teams and they're simply trying to protect their investments.
Money changes the game and there is certainly a lot of money in college & pro ball.
Money has definetley changed the NFL. No one has complained more than me about the excessive amount of commercials during a game. They want more commercials and the games to still end within three hours. In order to do so they changed the clock rules years ago taking away several possessions from each team during a game. One thing I have recently noticed in the past couple/few years is when a ball carrier get's knocked out of bounds the refs still run the clock. I don't understand it. It's like a dam soccer match, the clock never stops. It has come to the point where if each team has a long sustained drive down the field that could take up an entire quarter. The NFL game has changed so much the past 10-15 years it's no where near the same game it used to be. And that just SUCKS IMO.
SU Jag
September 29th, 2009, 07:57 PM
Damn! We will be playing UPWARD Flag Football in a few years ay the rate these new "rules" are comming into the NCAA and the NFL.xsmhx
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