Study: NCAA penalties harsher for non-BCS, historically black schools

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09-23-2009 03:26 AM

Study: NCAA penalties harsher for non-BCS, historically black schools

Schools in leagues that have automatic berths in the Bowl Championship Series receive less-stringent probation penalties from the NCAA than other Division I institutions for violating the governing body’s rules, says a study released Tuesday by a former NCAA legal consultant.

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[TexasTerror]

My question is whether or not these penalties are for the exact same things...if they are, it's a shame that this is true. If the HBCUs are truly having greater problems, then it makes sense...

HBCUs are poorly funded, as we well know. Seems more times than not, they do not have the proper administrative pieces in place, thereby increasing the likelihood of NCAA violations.

[Native]

My question is whether or not these penalties are for the exact same things...if they are, it's a shame that this is true. If the HBCUs are truly having greater problems, then it makes sense...

HBCUs are poorly funded, as we well know. Seems more times than not, they do not have the proper administrative pieces in place, thereby increasing the likelihood of NCAA violations.

In my two points of reference, SWAC and Big Sky. there are magnificent athletes and student athletes in both conferences. There are also fantastic coaches, teachers, and fans in both conferences.

The refs in the Big Sky are slightly better, maybe.

HOWEVER, to your point: Things work in the Big Sky. Things often don't work in the SWAC. Despite a few capable, caring and committed administrators in the SWAC, there is no comparison in the embarrassing levels of administrative arrogance, corruption, unnecessary drama, sloth and incompetence which runs rampant in several SWAC schools, cripples progress and penalizes students.

And that's not the worst of it. A lot of incompetence is swept under the rug. If SWAC administrations received the same level of scrutiny as other schools, some of them might even be forced out of business. xnonono2x

[Lehigh Football Nation]

True that. True that. True that! Just look at the APR penalties for examples.

While it's not necessarily an HBCU thing, HBCU's are historically underfunded, which means that they face huge challenges in compliance, etc. It's pretty well documented that "resource-poor" schools struggle to keep up - and many HBCU's fall in this category.

[TexasTerror]

While it's not necessarily an HBCU thing, HBCU's are historically underfunded, which means that they face huge challenges in compliance, etc. It's pretty well documented that "resource-poor" schools struggle to keep up - and many HBCU's fall in this category.

How many schools have open enrollment? How many HBCUs do? I know a few have changed in recent years.

While there are NCAA Clearinghouse Standards, perhaps these schools are also getting people on the lower end of the stick academically, because the enrollment qualifications are lower? Sure there are schools out there that will let student-athletes in below the academic standards (pet peeve for some tied to those schools), how do the academic admitance standards stack up?

And yes - resources. Some of these schools talk about making tons of $$$ through Classics, but at the end of the day - they are in really bad financial shape from an athletic standpoint and have low paid help (or even high-paid dead weight in a few cases) which do not get the job done.

[Native]

How many schools have open enrollment? How many HBCUs do? I know a few have changed in recent years.

While there are NCAA Clearinghouse Standards, perhaps these schools are also getting people on the lower end of the stick academically, because the enrollment qualifications are lower? Sure there are schools out there that will let student-athletes in below the academic standards (pet peeve for some tied to those schools), how do the academic admitance standards stack up?

And yes - resources. Some of these schools talk about making tons of $$$ through Classics, but at the end of the day - they are in really bad financial shape from an athletic standpoint and have low paid help (or even high-paid dead weight in a few cases) which do not get the job done.

Open enrollment may make it harder to reach APR scores, but maybe not so much, since class grades are often based on doing the work diligently and on time and not necessarily to the same level of quality from one school to the next.

THIS IS A GOOD THING, as long as the kids learn the basics, because hard work, timeliness and diligence are more important to productivity and work success than standardized test scores.

Additional resources cannot make up for hiring bias and nepotism; for example, hiring an incompetent and illiterate SID because she is family or friends with someone.

[WestCoastAggie]

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