Playoff Prognostications - 9/13

[TexasTerror]

Just for fun and to stir debate... ;)

And yes, I know these are early - but it's a fun subject. And I have two MEAC teams because I think FAMU runs the table to a 9-2 sans So Carolina State and Miami (Fla.), at least for now.

Automatic Bids
Big Sky: Montana
Colonial: Richmond
MEAC: South Carolina State
Missouri Valley: Northern Iowa
Ohio Valley: Eastern Illinois
Patriot: Holy Cross
Southern: Elon
Southland: Texas State - San Marcos

At-Large
Appalachian State
Eastern Washington
Florida A&M
McNeese State
New Hampshire
South Dakota State
Villanova
William & Mary

Bracket
Florida A&M @ (1) Richmond
New Hampshire @ Northern Iowa

Eastern Illinois @ (3) Texas State-San Marcos
South Carolina State @ Appalachian State

Holy Cross @ (4) Villanova
William & Mary @ Elon

Eastern Washington @ McNeese State
South Dakota State @ (2) Montana

[UNHWildCats]

Richmond barely survives Delaware and you have thenm #1.. Sorry Villanova should be CAA auto and #1.

And Texas State #3 with a win against sub Div I Angelo State in which Texas State allowed 28 points? LOL!

And Montana #2 seed?

LMMFAO

[danefan]

Based on how they've played so far - there is no way the MEAC even sniffs an at-large.

i know you do this to stir the pot - but did you watch the FAMU-WSSU game on ESPNU the other night?

I also think that UMass will get an at-large after watching them last night. The 4 point loss to KSU wasn't a fluke.

[yorkcountyUNHfan]

Just for fun and to stir debate... ;)

And yes, I know these are early - but it's a fun subject. And I have two MEAC teams because I think FAMU runs the table to a 9-2 sans So Carolina State and Miami (Fla.), at least for now.

Automatic Bids
Big Sky: Montana
Colonial: Richmond
MEAC: South Carolina State
Missouri Valley: Northern Iowa
Ohio Valley: Eastern Illinois
Patriot: Holy Cross
Southern: Elon
Southland: Texas State - San Marcos

At-Large
Appalachian State
Eastern Washington
Florida A&M
McNeese State
New Hampshire
South Dakota State
Villanova
William & Mary

Bracket
Florida A&M @ (1) Richmond
New Hampshire @ Northern Iowa

Eastern Illinois @ (3) Texas State-San Marcos
South Carolina State @ Appalachian State

Holy Cross @ (4) Villanova
William & Mary @ Elon

Eastern Washington @ McNeese State
South Dakota State @ (2) Montana

xoopsx

[asknoquarter21]

I don't see the the end of the season going that way, but if it did I think that bracket spells championship A S U.


Elon won't win the Southern

[ValleyChamp]

Just for fun and to stir debate... ;)

And yes, I know these are early - but it's a fun subject. And I have two MEAC teams because I think FAMU runs the table to a 9-2 sans So Carolina State and Miami (Fla.), at least for now.

Automatic Bids
Big Sky: Montana
Colonial: Richmond
MEAC: South Carolina State
Missouri Valley: Northern Iowa
Ohio Valley: Eastern Illinois
Patriot: Holy Cross
Southern: Elon
Southland: Texas State - San Marcos

At-Large
Appalachian State
Eastern Washington
Florida A&M
McNeese State
New Hampshire
South Dakota State
Villanova
William & Mary

Bracket
Florida A&M @ (1) Richmond
New Hampshire @ Northern Iowa

Eastern Illinois @ (3) Texas State-San Marcos
South Carolina State @ Appalachian State

Holy Cross @ (4) Villanova
William & Mary @ Elon

Eastern Washington @ McNeese State
South Dakota State @ (2) Montana

xlolx

[DOME]

Richmond would hope they run the table and get homefield advantage! If the come back to the DOME we won't repeat last year's game!

[UNCBears2010]

What is the status of EWU's playoff eligibility?

[WrenFGun]

You have an 0-2 team in the playoff field. Appalachian State needs to finish the season 8-1 the rest of the way. I have to imagine selecting a team than can get say, 6-3, and be in better shape, to make it.

[Eight Legger]

Richmond would hope they run the table and get homefield advantage! If the come back to the DOME we won't repeat last year's game!

Did someone say something?

[UNHWildCats]

You have an 0-2 team in the playoff field. Appalachian State needs to finish the season 8-1 the rest of the way. I have to imagine selecting a team than can get say, 6-3, and be in better shape, to make it.
time to sport a new signature image ;) :p

[Reign of Terrier]

I say again:

What's that? Ah -- Playoffs? Don't talk about -- playoffs? You kidding me? Playoffs? I just hope we can win a game! Another game.

[achrist70]

Big Sky: Montana
Colonial: Richmond
MEAC: South Carolina State
Missouri Valley: Northern Iowa
Ohio Valley: Eastern Illinois
Patriot: Holy Cross
Southern: App. State
Southland: McNeese State

At Large:
Southern Illinois
Delaware
New Hampshire
Elon
Texas State
Weber State
James Madison
South Dakota State

Seeds:
1. UNI
2. Richmond
3. Montana
4. McNeese State

[FargoBison]

What is the status of EWU's playoff eligibility?

What has EWU even done to merit being an at large? They beat a crappy DII school and were crushed by Cal. SIU would be a much better choice.

[achrist70]

You have an 0-2 team in the playoff field. Appalachian State needs to finish the season 8-1 the rest of the way. I have to imagine selecting a team than can get say, 6-3, and be in better shape, to make it.

All they have to do is win their conference, easier said than done but they still have to be the favorites.

[malibudude]

EWU is on double secret probation and got waxed at Cal. I don't think they are even in the group photo.

[MSUBear42]

Just for fun and to stir debate... ;)

And yes, I know these are early - but it's a fun subject. And I have two MEAC teams because I think FAMU runs the table to a 9-2 sans So Carolina State and Miami (Fla.), at least for now.

Automatic Bids
Big Sky: Montana
Colonial: Richmond
MEAC: South Carolina State
Missouri Valley: Northern Iowa
Ohio Valley: Eastern Illinois
Patriot: Holy Cross
Southern: Elon
Southland: Texas State - San Marcos

At-Large
Appalachian State
Eastern Washington
Florida A&M
McNeese State
New Hampshire
South Dakota State
Villanova
William & Mary

Bracket
Florida A&M @ (1) Richmond
New Hampshire @ Northern Iowa

Eastern Illinois @ (3) Texas State-San Marcos
South Carolina State @ Appalachian State

Holy Cross @ (4) Villanova
William & Mary @ Elon

Eastern Washington @ McNeese State
South Dakota State @ (2) Montana

No SIU?

[PhoenixSupreme]

I, for one, am perfectly fine with Elon being Texas Terror's SoCon autobid choice xthumbsupx

[TexasTerror]

And Texas State #3 with a win against sub Div I Angelo State in which Texas State allowed 28 points? LOL!

Got to stay consistent with my week of TXST-loving. Need to get it out of my system now, because they're going to hit rock bottom this week when they hit TCU and probably against Southern Utah. It'll be the end of the world for awhile! ;)


And Montana #2 seed?

Why not? You know they'll get their stuff together and get a record that will make them that attractive.


No SIU?

I wanted to - but they have NINE games in which they have to win SEVEN because of the sub-Div I game and the FBS loss. Games at UNI and SDSU will be tough. Can they go 7-2 after SW Baptist? Not sure.

[UNHWildCats]

Big Sky: Montana
Colonial: Richmond
MEAC: South Carolina State
Missouri Valley: Northern Iowa
Ohio Valley: Eastern Illinois
Patriot: Holy Cross
Southern: App. State
Southland: McNeese State

At Large:
Southern Illinois
Delaware
New Hampshire
Elon
Texas State
Weber State
James Madison
South Dakota State

Seeds:
1. UNI
2. Richmond
3. Montana
4. McNeese State
Dude? Wheres the Tribe? 2-0 with an FBS win, right now they'd be in ahead of SIU, Delaware, Texas State, Weber State, James Madison

[seattlespider]

Just for fun and to stir debate... ;)

And yes, I know these are early - but it's a fun subject. And I have two MEAC teams because I think FAMU runs the table to a 9-2 sans So Carolina State and Miami (Fla.), at least for now.

Automatic Bids
Big Sky: Montana
Colonial: Richmond
MEAC: South Carolina State
Missouri Valley: Northern Iowa
Ohio Valley: Eastern Illinois
Patriot: Holy Cross
Southern: Elon
Southland: Texas State - San Marcos

At-Large
Appalachian State
Eastern Washington
Florida A&M
McNeese State
New Hampshire
South Dakota State
Villanova
William & Mary

Bracket
Florida A&M @ (1) Richmond
New Hampshire @ Northern Iowa

Eastern Illinois @ (3) Texas State-San Marcos
South Carolina State @ Appalachian State

Holy Cross @ (4) Villanova
William & Mary @ Elon

Eastern Washington @ McNeese State
South Dakota State @ (2) Montana

#1) Isn't Eastern Washington waiting on an appeal for the playoff suspension? If so, they're technically barred as of this point.

#2) FAMU @ UR would be fun, as my brother is an alum.

#3) Way too early for this. ;)

[RabidRabbit]

Thanks NOLA neighbor for serving this discussion tool up! xbowxxbowx

Automatic Bids
Big Sky: Montana
Colonial: Villanova
MEAC: South Carolina State
Missouri Valley: Northern Iowa
Ohio Valley: Eastern KY
Patriot: Holy Cross
Southern: Elon
Southland: McNeese

At-Large
Southern Ill
Appalachian State
Richmond
New Hampshire
South Dakota State
Florida A&M
William & Mary
Texas St.

Bracket
Florida A&M @ Richmond
Texas St @ (1)Northern Iowa

Eastern Illinois @ (3) William & Mary
South Carolina State @ Appalachian State

Holy Cross @ (2) Villanova
William & Mary @ Elon

UNH @ McNeese State
South Dakota State @ (4) Montana

[ur2k]

Richmond would hope they run the table and get homefield advantage! If the come back to the DOME we won't repeat last year's game!

Do you play on the team? Not sure how you would prevent that from happening again.

[bjtheflamesfan]

Liberty has a couple big games coming up the next couple weeks. Would they have to win both to get into playoff discussion?

[kalm]

EWU should get a decision on the appeal within the next two weeks. The appeal hearing supposedly went favorably.

Weber has a tough road playing at Cheney, at Missoula, and finishing with Cal Poly at home. If they were to run the table they would be a legit seed. If they finish 8-3 they might be the best at-large team in the tourney. I'm guessing they are capable of both.

[ASUG8]

You have an 0-2 team in the playoff field. Appalachian State needs to finish the season 8-1 the rest of the way. I have to imagine selecting a team than can get say, 6-3, and be in better shape, to make it.

We were 1-2 last year - give it time.

[R.A.]

Just for fun and to stir debate... ;)

And yes, I know these are early - but it's a fun subject. And I have two MEAC teams because I think FAMU runs the table to a 9-2 sans So Carolina State and Miami (Fla.), at least for now.

Automatic Bids
Big Sky: Montana
Colonial: Richmond
MEAC: South Carolina State
Missouri Valley: Northern Iowa
Ohio Valley: Eastern Illinois
Patriot: Holy Cross
Southern: Elon
Southland: Texas State - San Marcos

At-Large
Appalachian State
Eastern Washington
Florida A&M
McNeese State
New Hampshire
South Dakota State
Villanova
William & Mary

Bracket
Florida A&M @ (1) Richmond
New Hampshire @ Northern Iowa

Eastern Illinois @ (3) Texas State-San Marcos
South Carolina State @ Appalachian State

Holy Cross @ (4) Villanova
William & Mary @ Elon

Eastern Washington @ McNeese State
South Dakota State @ (2) Montana


10-1 SCSU should be a home team. Appy's already lost two. If they lose another and go 8-3, it'll be hard to justify not sending the Mountaineers to Orangeburg.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

EWU hasn't shown anything to merit being a post-season candidate, however we've shown a ton of potential. Weber State will at least share the BSC title. It will be 2-3 weeks before it is known whether or not we'll be eligible.

Montana will NOT be a seed in the playoffs, if they play like they did in their first two games.

[UNHWildCats]

10-1 SCSU should be a home team. Appy's already lost two. If they lose another and go 8-3, it'll be hard to justify not sending the Mountaineers to Orangeburg.
all that matters is bids and it would be hard to think SC State would out bid Appy.

[tribe_pride]

Thanks NOLA neighbor for serving this discussion tool up! xbowxxbowx

Automatic Bids
Big Sky: Montana
Colonial: Villanova
MEAC: South Carolina State
Missouri Valley: Northern Iowa
Ohio Valley: Eastern KY
Patriot: Holy Cross
Southern: Elon
Southland: McNeese

At-Large
Southern Ill
Appalachian State
Richmond
New Hampshire
South Dakota State
Florida A&M
William & Mary
Texas St.

Bracket
Florida A&M @ Richmond
Texas St @ (1)Northern Iowa

Eastern Illinois @ (3) William & Mary
South Carolina State @ Appalachian State

Holy Cross @ (2) Villanova
William & Mary @ Elon

UNH @ McNeese State
South Dakota State @ (4) Montana

If we are going to play 2 games in 1 round, can't they both be at home so we don't have to travel that much?

[RabidRabbit]

If we are going to play 2 games in 1 round, can't they both be at home so we don't have to travel that much?

xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolx

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Maybe if it goes so well, you'll get to play yourself. xsmiley_wix

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Sorry, changing after a cut-n-paste, missed some of my needed changesxrulesx

[achrist70]

Dude? Wheres the Tribe? 2-0 with an FBS win, right now they'd be in ahead of SIU, Delaware, Texas State, Weber State, James Madison

I was going for the end of the season. There are just too many CAA teams I don't have Nova in there either. I guess the top four CAA teams.

[UNHWildCats]

I was going for the end of the season. There are just too many CAA teams I don't have Nova in there either. I guess the top four CAA teams.
I didnt even notice Villanova missing... WOW... of course you were sure to put UNI #1 overall xrolleyesx

[ToTheLeft]

Liberty
Coastal
Marshall
San Diego
Albany
Western Kentucky
Iona
Charleston Southern
THE Citadel
NDSU
SDSU
Indiana State
Presby
Chatty
Davidson
St. Francis (PA)

Coastal v. (1) Liberty
St. Francis v. Marshall

Chucky v. (2) Chatty
Davidson v. THE Citadel

USD v. (3) Albany
Western Kentucky v. Iona

NDSU v. (4) SDSU
Presby v. ISU

[UNCBears2010]

Liberty
Coastal
Marshall
San Diego
Albany
Western Kentucky
Iona
Charleston Southern
THE Citadel
NDSU
SDSU
Indiana State
Presby
Chatty
Davidson
St. Francis (PA)

Coastal v. (1) Liberty
St. Francis v. Marshall

Chucky v. (2) Chatty
Davidson v. THE Citadel

USD v. (3) Albany
Western Kentucky v. Iona

NDSU v. (4) SDSU
Presby v. ISU

Huh?? A few of those teams aren't even FCS. Maybe I'm missing something...

[R.A.]

all that matters is bids and it would be hard to think SC State would out bid Appy.

Why?

[UNHWildCats]

Liberty
Coastal
Marshall
San Diego
Albany
Western Kentucky
Iona
Charleston Southern
THE Citadel
NDSU
SDSU
Indiana State
Presby
Chatty
Davidson
St. Francis (PA)

Coastal v. (1) Liberty
St. Francis v. Marshall

Chucky v. (2) Chatty
Davidson v. THE Citadel

USD v. (3) Albany
Western Kentucky v. Iona

NDSU v. (4) SDSU
Presby v. ISU
your joke was funny until you included the Thundering Turd.... watch your back when the SoCon posters showup :p

[UNHWildCats]

Huh?? A few of those teams aren't even FCS. Maybe I'm missing something...
yes... the humor

[UNCBears2010]

yes... the humor

It's because I'm used to seeing UNC is those type of posts.xlolx

[JMU Newbill]

1) Way too early for this
2) ASU and JMU have combined for a total of 0 wins in 2009. Let's hold off on giving either of them any credit for anything until they win something

[CamelCityAppFan]

1) Way too early for this
2) ASU and JMU have combined for a total of 0 wins in 2009. Let's hold off on giving either of them any credit for anything until they win something

(1) Absolutely. Waaaaaaay too early.

(2) (Friendly amendment) While it's foolish to give pre-mature credit to either, it is equally foolish to count either out at this point.

[Houndawg]

A little soon to count out SIU, too.

[TexasTerror]

A little soon to count out SIU, too.

Seen their schedule? They have nine games to win seven. This is the MVFC, it's not a walk in the park. If they start off MVFC play with some wins, then we can talk...

[Houndawg]

Seen their schedule? They have nine games to win seven. This is the MVFC, it's not a walk in the park. If they start off MVFC play with some wins, then we can talk...


xnonoxAnd they're the defending MVFC co-champions with 18 starters returning.

It's a little soon to count them out.xcoffeex

[TexasTerror]

xnonoxAnd they're the defending MVFC co-champions with 18 starters returning.

It's a little soon to count them out.xcoffeex

I am basing my prognostications on the present. Until SIU gets into MVFC play and gets some wins - they are going to be on the outside, looking in. I'll keep tabs on them, but I am concerned with the tough, rugged MVFC schedule - it may be tough.

[Houndawg]

I am basing my prognostications on the present.

I guess that explains you giving Appy the SoCon AQ..xwhistlex

[bjtheflamesfan]

I mentioned LU in this regard already but who really needs to win their way into the discussion for an at large berth at this point? (I know its early but I thought Id ask)

[89Hen]

New Hampshire @ Northern Iowa


xoopsx
That's just plain old mean. xlolx :p

[89Hen]

I mentioned LU in this regard already but who really needs to win their way into the discussion for an at large berth at this point? (I know its early but I thought Id ask)
LU has to beat JMU to get a bid. Otherwise you could only be 9-2 (8-2 vs DI) with no wins over ranked teams. xtwocentsx

[JMU Newbill]

LU has to beat JMU to get a bid. Otherwise you could only be 9-2 (8-2 vs DI) with no wins over ranked teams. xtwocentsx


And depending on how the CAA goes this year... JMU may NEED that win against LU to have a shot at an at-large.

Could shape up to be quite the meaningful game.

[DG Cowboy]

For McNeese, a Henderson State is OK, but not Henderson and Savannah State. Gonna bite the Pokes in the butt at selection time unless we AQ.

[MSU_77]

For McNeese, a Henderson State is OK, but not Henderson and Savannah State. Gonna bite the Pokes in the butt at selection time unless we AQ.

Savannah State is Division I, so while a McNeese win (knock on wood) won't help strength of schedule rankings, it will qualify toward the minimum number of Division I wins.

[TexasTerror]

For McNeese, a Henderson State is OK, but not Henderson and Savannah State. Gonna bite the Pokes in the butt at selection time unless we AQ.

McNeese has a good chance at being 8-2 against Div I competition. They pull that (one or two SLC losses or possible loss to Tulane), they'll be in.


I guess that explains you giving Appy the SoCon AQ..xwhistlex

If you read my initial post - I gave it to Elon! Come on now!

[UNHWildCats]

That's just plain old mean. xlolx :p
he was just being nice and giving the opportunity for the friendships formed over the past 4 years to meet up again.... couple more years of this and they can all have thanksgiving dinner together xcoolx

[leatherneck177]

ALREADY? Some schools have not even played opponents that will give a true measure of their ability yet.

[WestCoastAggie]

Damn that CAA! They are gettin it right!

[drpnut]

I do believe that the MEAC will only get one in.

I do believe that the Big South gets shut out again.

I do believe that Albany will not make it.

I do believe that the SoCon AQ will most likely have 2 loses.

I do believe that 20 teams get in in 2010 (ha ha we already know this.)

Way too early to project anything else

[danefan]

Here's something to stir the pot even more......because of all of the FBS wins, its quite possible that the CAA will be deserving of 6+ at-large bids this year!


Check out Dukie95's analysis:
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1406909&postcount=81

Leaves the CAA with Delaware, Richmond and W&M with 9 wins each (incuding an FBS win each) and JMU, UMass, UNH and Nova with 8 wins each (including FBS wins for UNH and Nova and tough FBS loses for UMass and JMU).

That would be 7 CAA teams with solid resumes. Could be crazy.

[Houndawg]

McNeese has a good chance at being 8-2 against Div I competition. They pull that (one or two SLC losses or possible loss to Tulane), they'll be in.



If you read my initial post - I gave it to Elon! Come on now!

My bad, I meant at large. Same point holds though. You're worried about SIU going 7-2, but not worried about Appy going 8-1?

[Husky Alum]

ALREADY? Some schools have not even played opponents that will give a true measure of their ability yet.

Yeah, but Northeastern couldn't get a game with Brookline High, so we're stuck with Youngstown this weekend.

[henfan]

Kenny wondered if making playoff selections after Week 2 of the season would be an example of 'intelligent design'.

http://deminvest.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/monkeythrowingdartsatstocks.jpg

[BDKJMU]

And depending on how the CAA goes this year... JMU may NEED that win against LU to have a shot at an at-large.

Could shape up to be quite the meaningful game.

Its not "may". Its "Will". NO CAA team will make the playoffs with 2 OOC losses.

[Bull Fan]

I also think that UMass will get an at-large after watching them last night. The 4 point loss to KSU wasn't a fluke.

Respectfully disagree, but easier said than done with UMass. Some of their fans have reservations about their situation. New coach, QB, etc... will be interesting to see their season develop.

[danefan]

Respectfully disagree, but easier said than done with UMass. Some of their fans have reservations about their situation. New coach, QB, etc... will be interesting to see their season develop.

Have you seen them play?

New QB is legit and their defensive line is very very good.

As for the new coach - he wasn't really tested in the Albany game, but he's not really a "new" coach. He was the offensive coordinator.

I was skeptical too before seeing them play. xpeacex

[Bull Fan]

No, have not seen them play this year. Basing it off a remark somewhere else from a UMass fan who says numerous folks are "wondering" about their situation.

An OC from the same team doesn't necessarily translate into a "good" HC, but continuity should be a factor.

I did catch them live last year (yeah, I know, last year.....) and I was not overly impressed. Without taking this the wrong way, could you honestly tell me if Albany was really a test for their lines?

CAA being stacked, they're going to need to gun down Madison, Richmond and UNH and/or UD to make some hay in the eyes of the selection committee. I don't know if they're ready for that this year.

[GannonFan]

Have you seen them play?

New QB is legit and their defensive line is very very good.

As for the new coach - he wasn't really tested in the Albany game, but he's not really a "new" coach. He was the offensive coordinator.

I was skeptical too before seeing them play. xpeacex

Let's just keep this in focus - Albany was trounced by a UD team last year only to see UD go 4-8 on the season. Early season trouncings of Albany may not be the best barometer to gauge playoff potential. Just sayin. xpeacex

[danefan]

Let's just keep this in focus - Albany was trounced by a UD team last year only to see UD go 4-8 on the season. Early season trouncings of Albany may not be the best barometer to gauge playoff potential. Just sayin. xpeacex

Major difference between those two games. In the UA vs. UD game last year Albany controlled the ball and the clock in the first half and were in the game for almost the entire game, despite the score.

Albany was dominated by UMass last weekend. The Albany defense played a great game and was lucky to keep it at 41.

I never thought Delaware was that good last year, even after whooping Albany. You could tell in that game that Schoencroft (sp?) wasn't what they were looking for and couldn't carry the team.

Not the case for UMass. We'll have to wait and see though.

[Bull Fan]

Albany was dominated by UMass last weekend. The Albany defense played a great game and was lucky to keep it at 41.

How could you say they played a great defense yet yield 44 pts? xeekx No disrespect intended, but I don't think if UMass plays an "average" team (especially in the CAA) they're scoring 44 again this year....

[danefan]

How could you say they played a great defense yet yield 44 pts? xeekx No disrespect intended, but I don't think if UMass plays an "average" team (especially in the CAA) they're scoring 44 again this year....

If you watched the game you would know how I could say that.

And I'm not the only one who has said it - Jack Cosgrove said the same thing in the weekly CAA press conference.

[Bull Fan]

Jack Cosgrove, or ANY coach for that matter, would never say anything to slight an opponent. Especially a conference opponent. If you listen to any coach, they're going to sound like they're lining up against Florida. Sorry dude.

[danefan]

Jack Cosgrove, or ANY coach for that matter, would never say anything to slight an opponent. Especially a conference opponent. If you listen to any coach, they're going to sound like they're lining up against Florida. Sorry dude.

Don't apologize to me. I understand "coach speak". He didn't have to say anything, it wasn't asked of him. What he said was that he was very surprised to see how well the defense played when he looked at the film, especially considering the score. which is the exact same reaction most would have.

You didn't answer my first question though - did you watch the game?

[Bull Fan]

I tell you what, you get me a link to video, or whatever, and I'm sure I can break it down somewhat and find some issues with Albany that helped lead to 44 points. You just don't face a team that plays 'great' defense and hang 44....

Trust me when I say that ravaging Albany in September is going to be a LOT different than the uphill battle they (or any single CAA team) will face during the full CAA season.

[danefan]

I tell you what, you get me a link to video, or whatever, and I'm sure I can break it down somewhat and find some issues with Albany that helped lead to 44 points. You just don't face a team that plays 'great' defense and hang 44....

Trust me when I say that ravaging Albany in September is going to be a LOT different than the uphill battle they (or any single CAA team) will face during the full CAA season.

So you didn't watch the game. Didn't think so. So we both have opinions of the game. I actually watched it and you didn't. I'll stick with my opinion.

And I don't have to trust you Bull. I know exactly what UMass faces the rest of the season and in the CAA. I'm telling you that even based on that I think they'll get an at-large.

[Bull Fan]

.... I told you I hadn't seen UMass play live yet this year.... hence, NO, I did not see the game. xeyebrowx

Let the chips fall where they may. Surely taking this with a grain of salt considering Albany's stature at this point in the season....

And like I said, if UMass can escape the buzz saw of Richmond, Madison and either UD or UNH, then it's another conversation.

And that's ASSUMING they can run the table against the rest of the schedule: URI, SBU, Maine, Northeastern and Hofstra.

[NHwildEcat]

.... I told you I hadn't seen UMass play live yet this year.... hence, NO, I did not see the game. xeyebrowx

Let the chips fall where they may. Surely taking this with a grain of salt considering Albany's stature at this point in the season....

And like I said, if UMass can escape the buzz saw of Richmond, Madison and either UD or UNH, then it's another conversation.

And that's ASSUMING they can run the table against the rest of the schedule: URI, SBU, Maine, Northeastern and Hofstra.

I bet they lose to Maine.

[Bull Fan]

You could probably flip Maine and UD in the "buzz saw" category. I don't know that UD is up to snuff just yet. That Maine game is up north this year. Still, a ton of tough games.

Hell, none of us could predict the CAA autobid, nonetheless an at-large at this point. Way too early, especially for this conference.

[GannonFan]

Major difference between those two games. In the UA vs. UD game last year Albany controlled the ball and the clock in the first half and were in the game for almost the entire game, despite the score.

Albany was dominated by UMass last weekend. The Albany defense played a great game and was lucky to keep it at 41.

I never thought Delaware was that good last year, even after whooping Albany. You could tell in that game that Schoencroft (sp?) wasn't what they were looking for and couldn't carry the team.

Not the case for UMass. We'll have to wait and see though.

Huh? Albany managed 150 yards all game last year against UD. And Albany's only score was a 16 play 73 yard drive. Outside of that, Albany didn't move the ball at all - more than half of Albany's 9 first downs were on that one drive. Once UD scored more than 10 points (which last year was tough to do) that game was over - Albany just couldn't move the ball at all. And it was 31-7 to start the 4th quarter - the game was over well before then and UD played scrubs in the 4th quarter.

[danefan]

Huh? Albany managed 150 yards all game last year against UD. And Albany's only score was a 16 play 73 yard drive. Outside of that, Albany didn't move the ball at all - more than half of Albany's 9 first downs were on that one drive. Once UD scored more than 10 points (which last year was tough to do) that game was over - Albany just couldn't move the ball at all. And it was 31-7 to start the 4th quarter - the game was over well before then and UD played scrubs in the 4th quarter.


And I never really thought Delaware was that good last year. Maybe I'm misremembering my feelings about the game, but I don't think I ever came out of that game last year and thought that Delaware was a playoff team. Albany laid a huge egg that game no doubt about it though.

I just see the two games differently.xpeacex

[Bull Fan]

So you didn't watch the game. Didn't think so


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Originally Posted by GannonFan
Huh? Albany managed 150 yards all game last year against UD. And Albany's only score was a 16 play 73 yard drive. Outside of that, Albany didn't move the ball at all - more than half of Albany's 9 first downs were on that one drive. Once UD scored more than 10 points (which last year was tough to do) that game was over - Albany just couldn't move the ball at all. And it was 31-7 to start the 4th quarter - the game was over well before then and UD played scrubs in the 4th quarter.

And I never really thought Delaware was that good last year. Maybe I'm misremembering my feelings about the game, but I don't think I ever came out of that game last year and thought that Delaware was a playoff team. Albany laid a huge egg that game no doubt about it though.

I just see the two games differently.


So you either you DIDN'T watch the game, or you're misremembering.... xwhistlex

Major difference in 'dominating' a game vs. being out of it in the first half.

[Dukie95]

No one wants to hear this, but it's true. It's almost a lock that the CAA gets 5 teams in this year. With 4 I-A wins, there are going to be a lot of teams with 8 wins, and UD and Maine still have winnable I-A games.

The OOC games are now going to be crucial, especially for those that have lost their I-A game, like JMU and UMass. Delaware and Maine would be even further hindered should they lose their I-A games, given the D-IIs on their schedule.

[Maroon&White]

How did Hofstra do against Albany?

[danefan]

So you either you DIDN'T watch the game, or you're misremembering.... xwhistlex

Major difference in 'dominating' a game vs. being out of it in the first half.

I never said Albany dominated the Delaware game. I said they were in it for most of the game. Which was perhaps an overstatement. It was definitely a game in the first half.

You are reaching now pal. You are using a game that happened an entire year ago to counter my opinion which is based on a game that happened 4 days ago. I'm not following you.

UMass dominated Albany on Saturday. I don't get why its so hard for you to believe that the game could have been a good indicator of UMass's success this year.

Thanks for the red chip too. I get that you don't agree with me, but I'm far from a "clueless" observer as you have pointed out.

[Bull Fan]

Hofstra sucked and lost the last time they played Albany. No excuses here. You're not going to find any commentary out of me until the DUTCH begin to show signs of improvement. xsmhx

Reaching? No. Just using your own words against you, since you seem to 'misremember', or misperceive how a game flows. I'm drawing your UD / Albany game as a parallel to the way you perceive the UMass / Albany game. Telling us your defense put on a great performance, yet letting up 44 points is the real 'reach'. First time I've EVER heard anyone say a defense played great while letting up 44 points. In football. Basketball, maybe.... but not football.

All-in-all, my point is that you can't use the Albany game as a good indication for a prospective at-large bid for UMass. Too much season, and way too much CAA season left for them and everyone else. Hell, I'd say the same thing after their next game. Their OOC games, not really strong to begin with, won't dictate their candidacy. It's going to depend on their ability to work through their tougher CAA games.

Your assumptions and misrememberings earned your red chiclet. Feel free to red-dot me too....

[jmufan999]

Did someone say something?

hahaha yeah baby!

all i can say is this: Eric Ward was f'ing MONEY in that game. i've gone back and watched it numerous times.

he was the definition of "clutch".

[Maroon&White]

Hofstra sucked and lost the last time they played Albany. No excuses here. You're not going to find any commentary out of me until the DUTCH begin to show signs of improvement. xsmhx

Reaching? No. Just using your own words against you, since you seem to 'misremember', or misperceive how a game flows. I'm drawing your UD / Albany game as a parallel to the way you perceive the UMass / Albany game. Telling us your defense put on a great performance, yet letting up 44 points is the real 'reach'. First time I've EVER heard anyone say a defense played great while letting up 44 points. In football. Basketball, maybe.... but not football.

All-in-all, my point is that you can't use the Albany game as a good indication for a prospective at-large bid for UMass. Too much season, and way too much CAA season left for them and everyone else. Hell, I'd say the same thing after their next game. Their OOC games, not really strong to begin with, won't dictate their candidacy. It's going to depend on their ability to work through their tougher CAA games.

Your assumptions and misrememberings earned your red chiclet. Feel free to red-dot me too....


You're obviously still upset Hofstra lost to Albany. Get over it.

[Bull Fan]

Hardly, though it was upsetting that afternoon. I'm more upset in our OC than anything else.

[Maroon&White]

It is quite clear you like neither UMass nor Albany.

[bjtheflamesfan]

Its not "may". Its "Will". NO CAA team will make the playoffs with 2 OOC losses.

So even though its the 4th week of the season this game could very well be a play in game for both schools?

[UNHWildCats]

It is quite clear you like neither UMass nor Albany.
to be fair no one likes UMass xcoolx

[GannonFan]

to be fair no one likes UMass xcoolx

I think most of the CAA can agree on that. xlolxxthumbsupx

[EWashEagle]

I was at the Cal game. Cal has a great team and would "wax" Poly and the Bison. They will go to the Rose Bowl this year, so give EWU a break.

[UNCBears2010]

I was at the Cal game. Cal has a great team and would "wax" Poly and the Bison. They will go to the Rose Bowl this year, so give EWU a break.

Do you have them beating USC or do you have USC in the FBS championship game?

[Bull Fan]

It is quite clear you like neither UMass nor Albany.


Hofstra fan.