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Lehigh Football Nation
August 27th, 2009, 10:59 AM
The FCS season starts today. Not next week, not next Saturday - today.

Indiana State will pulverize tiny Quincy (out of NAIA).

I hope. Do the Sycamores ever need a win.

Game is available on Go Sycamores (or with anyone with a College Sports Direct account). The Link to the video is available at:

http://college-sports-source.appspot.com/Scores.html?subd=FCS&week=0

6:05 EDT start.

Go Sycamores!

89Hen
August 27th, 2009, 11:00 AM
Seriously? How is this allowed? xconfusedx

TexasTerror
August 27th, 2009, 11:06 AM
I'm pulling for the Sycamores. It's time for them to begin taking the necessary steps to turn around that program and I have a feeling that Coach Miles is the guy to do it. This program is a few years away from being where it should be, but it takes steps and there's an obvious commitment to football in Terre Haute.

Lehigh Football Nation
August 27th, 2009, 02:41 PM
A bit over 3 hours until gametime.

BEAR
August 27th, 2009, 02:48 PM
Quincy came to Estes stadium last year and UCA drubbed them 51-6 and tallied nearly 600 yards of offense. It's an easy win but the Quincy fans and team are nice about it. xthumbsupx

89Hen
August 27th, 2009, 03:14 PM
Seriously? How is this allowed? xconfusedx
This wasn't a rhetorical question. How are these teams allowed to start on August 27th? xconfusedx

NHwildEcat
August 27th, 2009, 03:23 PM
This wasn't a rhetorical question. How are these teams allowed to start on August 27th? xconfusedx

Maybe because only one of them is out of the NCAA? My best guess.

Umass74
August 27th, 2009, 03:28 PM
For Quincy, the video feed should be free.

onbison09
August 27th, 2009, 03:48 PM
Go Sycamores! If they don't win this game......................

Redbird Ray
August 27th, 2009, 03:54 PM
Funny to think that the Trees will be in first place after tonight (at least overall record) xrolleyesx

MSUBear42
August 27th, 2009, 05:22 PM
Funny to think that the Trees will be in first place after tonight (at least overall record) xrolleyesx

Or dead last! xlolx

89hen, they received some special waiver from the NCAAs, not sure what for though.

leatherneck177
August 27th, 2009, 05:44 PM
I believe Indiana State wins, but it is close until the 4th quarter.

Silenoz
August 27th, 2009, 05:52 PM
Maybe it's an NAIA tryout?








Only kidding!

Model Citizen
August 27th, 2009, 06:17 PM
NAIA Quincy beat McKendree 20 - 13
NAIA McKendree beat St Francis IL 14 - 13
NAIA St Francis IL beat Valparaiso 21 - 0
Div I - FCS Valparaiso beat Davidson 35 - 29
Div I - FCS Davidson beat Jacksonville 38 - 35
Div I - FCS Jacksonville beat San Diego 30 - 29
Div I - FCS San Diego beat UC Davis 28 - 20
Div I - FCS UC Davis beat Southern Utah 49 - 26
Div I - FCS Southern Utah beat Youngstown St 14 - 7
Div I - FCS Youngstown St beat Indiana St 35 - 21

xwhistlex

ISUMatt
August 27th, 2009, 06:20 PM
Indiana State 3
Quincy 0
-1st Qtr

ISUMatt
August 27th, 2009, 06:30 PM
10-0 Trees

TheBisonator
August 27th, 2009, 06:31 PM
Keep us updated!!

JALMOND
August 27th, 2009, 06:31 PM
I'm just glad we are finally playing football. GO TEAMS!!!!

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 06:42 PM
It would be nice if I was able to WATCH after I registered for the game. I absolutely HATE Jump TV. All I get is error messages when I try to sign on.

BEAR
August 27th, 2009, 06:44 PM
Football season has begun! xthumbsupx

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 06:59 PM
17-3 Trees. Listening to the radio broadcast.

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 07:00 PM
Sycamores have had a lot of penalties thus far, including one where a defender celebrated a big hit and got an unsportsmanlike penalty that gave Quincy a first and goal. The Hawks had to settle for a field goal.

TheBisonator
August 27th, 2009, 07:01 PM
17-3 Trees. Listening to the radio broadcast.

Looks like the Trees are beating up on an NAIA team the way most halfway-decent FCS teams would beat up on an NAIA team. Could the Trees be, dare I say, AVERAGE this season?? Might we see something like a 5-6 season for these guys??

I'm not predicting it yet, but how weird would that be...

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 07:12 PM
Finally got the pathetic Jump TV broadcast to work. Why do schools use these imbeciles?

Redbird Ray
August 27th, 2009, 07:17 PM
Looks like the Trees are beating up on an NAIA team the way most halfway-decent FCS teams would beat up on an NAIA team. Could the Trees be, dare I say, AVERAGE this season?? Might we see something like a 5-6 season for these guys??

I'm not predicting it yet, but how weird would that be...

I would say just about every FCS team should pulverize any NAIA team. But a win for the Trees would be a huge step in the right direction. I've said all off-season that I think the Trees will win 3-4 games this year.

TheBisonator
August 27th, 2009, 07:18 PM
Any score update??

Redbird Ray
August 27th, 2009, 07:18 PM
College Football!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!! :D

TexasTerror
August 27th, 2009, 07:22 PM
Finally got the pathetic Jump TV broadcast to work. Why do schools use these imbeciles?

Why do you think it always falls on JumpTV? You mentioned some access issues as far as after you registered, but a bunch of the times, it's the school's fault that their broadcasts are not working. Trust me... xsmhx


Looks like the Trees are beating up on an NAIA team the way most halfway-decent FCS teams would beat up on an NAIA team. Could the Trees be, dare I say, AVERAGE this season?? Might we see something like a 5-6 season for these guys?? I'm not predicting it yet, but how weird would that be...

I think they'll get three or four wins this year. It's a work in progress for the Sycamores. In two or three years, we may even see them in the playoffs. They played loads of true freshmen last year and it's not like their is a lack of talent in Indiana.


Any score update??

17-3. HALF

TheBisonator
August 27th, 2009, 07:26 PM
Why do you think it always falls on JumpTV? You mentioned some access issues as far as after you registered, but a bunch of the times, it's the school's fault that their broadcasts are not working. Trust me... xsmhx



I think they'll get three or four wins this year. It's a work in progress for the Sycamores. In two or three years, we may even see them in the playoffs. They played loads of true freshmen last year and it's not like their is a lack of talent in Indiana.



17-3. HALF

I hope they can average at least 5-6,000 fans per home game this season.

onbison09
August 27th, 2009, 07:26 PM
A lot of times it is the school's fault. Trust me, I've had experience with the stupidity.

TexasTerror
August 27th, 2009, 07:28 PM
A lot of times it is the school's fault. Trust me, I've had experience with the stupidity.

xthumbsupx

Yep - but JumpTV does have their fair share of issues (i.e. their servers get overwhelmed during 'overlaps' - signing day stinks!). Even if you are skilled and have staged plenty of JumpTV live events, there's a long list of issues that could cause problems for your broadcasts.

onbison09
August 27th, 2009, 07:30 PM
xthumbsupx

Yep - but JumpTV does have their fair share of issues (i.e. their servers get overwhelmed during 'overlaps' - signing day stinks!). Even if you are skilled and have staged plenty of JumpTV live events, there's a long list of issues that could cause problems for your broadcasts.

Remember that epic you guys had at the dome? Well all I heard of our last TD was "Walker drops back to pass" BLACK SCREEN. I was so pissed I wasn't even happy we won.

TheBisonator
August 27th, 2009, 07:33 PM
Remember that epic you guys had at the dome? Well all I heard of our last TD was "Walker drops back to pass" BLACK SCREEN. I was so pissed I wasn't even happy we won.

I was at that game, but I remember people pissed about the black screen during the winning play.

Here's the replay if you want to see it (TT, don't click the link if you don't think you can handle it:)):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTx__3AIusw

Uncle Buck
August 27th, 2009, 07:41 PM
I was at that game, but I remember people pissed about the black screen during the winning play.

Here's the replay if you want to see it (TT, don't click the link if you don't think you can handle it:)):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTx__3AIusw

The comments at the bottom were more entertaining than the clip. Things we getting downright nasty.

TheBisonator
August 27th, 2009, 07:42 PM
The comments at the bottom were more entertaining than the clip. Things we getting downright nasty.

YouTube comments are always entertaining. the average IQ per YT comments user is between that of a tomato and a paper clip.

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 07:54 PM
Why do you think it always falls on JumpTV? You mentioned some access issues as far as after you registered, but a bunch of the times, it's the school's fault that their broadcasts are not working. Trust me... xsmhx



I think they'll get three or four wins this year. It's a work in progress for the Sycamores. In two or three years, we may even see them in the playoffs. They played loads of true freshmen last year and it's not like their is a lack of talent in Indiana.



17-3. HALF

The common denominator to most of the bad experiences I've had with Internet TV events has been that they were streamed by Jump TV.

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 07:55 PM
ISU just had a nice 21-yard punt return and were in Quincy territory at the 44. But the QB threw an interception into double coverage on first down.

Uncle Buck
August 27th, 2009, 07:58 PM
YouTube comments are always entertaining. the average IQ per YT comments user is between that of a tomato and a paper clip.

xlolxxlolxxlolx

Uncle Buck
August 27th, 2009, 07:59 PM
ISU just had a nice 21-yard punt return and were in Quincy territory at the 44. But the QB threw an interception into double coverage on first down.

where are you getting the broadcast from?

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 08:05 PM
Indiana State's website has a streaming video feed for purchase.

More dumb penalties for ISU, but they still lead 17-6 late in the third and have stopped Quincy twice in the red zone.

Uncle Buck
August 27th, 2009, 08:07 PM
Ah, thought maybe there was a free audio feed somewhere. Figured i would listen in while doing some work.

Sycamore51
August 27th, 2009, 08:08 PM
1st and 10 from the ISU 7. Score is 17-6 with about 5 to play in the 3rd. We started good, but not much offense since the first qt.

TheBisonator
August 27th, 2009, 08:09 PM
1st and 10 from the ISU 7. Score is 17-6 with about 5 to play in the 3rd. We started good, but not much offense since the first qt.

Any idea of what the attendance looks like??

Sycamore51
August 27th, 2009, 08:09 PM
There is an audio feed linked off the www.gosycamores.com

Sycamore51
August 27th, 2009, 08:10 PM
The attendance is reported 7,126

TheBisonator
August 27th, 2009, 08:11 PM
The attendance is reported 7,126

Awesome!! If you can keep the numbers generally above 5,000 for every game, you should be close to 6,000 or so per game. Much better than the 3,885 of last year or the 3,115 before that. I'm sure Homecoming will be a good draw for you guys at least. Hopefully there will be at least 5-6,000 at your place when we come to town.

Sycamore51
August 27th, 2009, 08:13 PM
after 3 qts, 17-6. Quincey is knocking on the door though, on the ISU 15

TheBisonator
August 27th, 2009, 08:14 PM
after 3 qts, 17-6. Quincey is knocking on the door though, on the ISU 15

Come on guys! They're NAIA!! This is for conference pride!!

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 08:16 PM
TD pass for Quincy to make it 17-12. Two-pointer coming.

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 08:18 PM
Two-point pass makes it 17-14 ISU early in the fourth quarter.

TheBisonator
August 27th, 2009, 08:18 PM
TD pass for Quincy to make it 17-12. Two-pointer coming.

Gulp. Not good.

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 08:23 PM
Quincy had a short field after ISU got pinned in and punted from its end zone. But the Trees are moving the ball with Darrius Gates on the ground and are back to the Hawk 26.

Uncle Buck
August 27th, 2009, 08:24 PM
nice

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 08:25 PM
Gates just made a nice dash for a first and goal at the 3. Gates is over 100 yards rushing.

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 08:26 PM
Touchdown Trees. Spoke too soon. Third down pass incomplete.

TheBisonator
August 27th, 2009, 08:28 PM
Touchdown Trees. Spoke too soon. Third down pass incomplete.

Awesome!!xnodx

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 08:29 PM
Martinez 27-yard FG with 8:35 left to make it 20-14.

That showed something, even against an NAIA team, with Indiana State coming right back to score after the lead was cut to three points.

TheBisonator
August 27th, 2009, 08:30 PM
Martinez 27-yard FG with 8:35 left to make it 20-14.

That showed something, even against an NAIA team, with Indiana State coming right back to score after the lead was cut to three points.

Oh, a FG?? Nevermind.

TheBisonator
August 27th, 2009, 08:32 PM
26 games in a row!! xoopsx Haven't won since 10/21/2006!! xoopsxxoopsx Let's stop that streak NOW!!!

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 08:34 PM
Who has the second longest losing streak?

TheBisonator
August 27th, 2009, 08:37 PM
Who has the second longest losing streak?

PVAMU had something like an 80-something game losing streak back in the 1990's I believe. Maybe a PV fan could give us the right info. I don't know what the 2nd longest is.

TheBisonator
August 27th, 2009, 08:40 PM
Any updates?? Will the Trees be able to hang on??

Model Citizen
August 27th, 2009, 08:40 PM
Quincy mania returns next week v. SEMO.

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 08:43 PM
PVAMU had something like an 80-something game losing streak back in the 1990's I believe. Maybe a PV fan could give us the right info. I don't know what the 2nd longest is.

I meant the second-longest current streak. It looks like Dartmouth has lost 12 straight and St. Francis has dropped 11 in a row. Chattanooga has a nine-game losing streak.

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 08:44 PM
Any updates?? Will the Trees be able to hang on??

Indiana State stopped Quincy on downs to force a punt and now has driven to the Hawk 26 where it is third down and three.

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 08:47 PM
The Trees pick up the first down at the Quincy 23.

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 08:50 PM
Kicker Braulio Martinez might have a chance to clinch it for the Sycamores. Third down and 13 on the 26 with 2:42 left and a time out.

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 08:52 PM
Incomplete pass forces fourth down and Martinez is on for a 43-yard FGA.

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 08:53 PM
Kick is blocked. Martinez's career long was 44 yards.

TheBisonator
August 27th, 2009, 08:53 PM
Kick is blocked. Martinez's career long was 44 yards.

OH DIP...........

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 08:53 PM
Quincy just missed a big completion to the ISU 40 on first down.

TheBisonator
August 27th, 2009, 08:55 PM
Man, if the Trees lose this one, we'll never hear the end of it from the fringe UND and USD fans about how they think the GWFC is better than the Missouri Valley...

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 08:56 PM
Personal Foul on a pass completion gives Quincy a first down on their own 38. Completion to the ISU 46.

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 08:57 PM
Completion out of bounds to the ISU 31. Dang prevent defense.

TheBisonator
August 27th, 2009, 08:57 PM
Completion out of bounds to the ISU 31. Dang prevent defense.

This is not looking good...

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 08:57 PM
Draw play to the ISU 24, second down and 3.

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 08:58 PM
Incomplete pass. Third down at the 24. 1:20 remaining.

leatherneck177
August 27th, 2009, 08:58 PM
are there any indiana state fans commenting on this thread?

TheBisonator
August 27th, 2009, 08:58 PM
are there any indiana state fans commenting on this thread?

Indiana State football fans?? Those exist??

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 08:59 PM
Draw play. The Quincy runner gets outside and runs to the 3.

leatherneck177
August 27th, 2009, 08:59 PM
Indiana State football fans?? Those exist??

I think I've seen two or three before at Hanson Field.

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 09:00 PM
Quincy QB sneak for TD with 43 seconds left.

TheBisonator
August 27th, 2009, 09:00 PM
Draw play. The Quincy runner gets outside and runs to the 3.

Well, this is a mighty fine kick in the nards for all the MWFC...

93henfan
August 27th, 2009, 09:00 PM
Quincy QB sneak for TD with 43 seconds left.

xeekx

TheBisonator
August 27th, 2009, 09:00 PM
Quincy QB sneak for TD with 43 seconds left.

Yep, I knew it.:(

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 09:00 PM
First PAT results in a procedure penalty for Quincy.

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 09:01 PM
Extra point is ... WIDE LEFT. 20-20

93henfan
August 27th, 2009, 09:02 PM
Extra point is ... WIDE LEFT. 20-20

xlolx wow

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 09:02 PM
Gotta love Thursday night football.

TheBisonator
August 27th, 2009, 09:02 PM
xlolx wow

Who wants this game more?? That's the question.

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 09:03 PM
ISU gets another nice return to its own 40 yard line

TheBisonator
August 27th, 2009, 09:03 PM
ISU gets another nice return to its own 40 yard line

Time for a little kicker redemption??

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 09:04 PM
Hurry-up offense for the Trees. Two completions to the ISU 47.

MSUBear42
August 27th, 2009, 09:04 PM
What the heck is the score and time? INSU's live stats don't work for me.

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 09:04 PM
Final time out for ISU. Third and 3 at the ISU 47.

TheBisonator
August 27th, 2009, 09:05 PM
What the heck is the score and time? INSU's live stats don't work for me.

20-20 tied, less than a minute left I think, ISU has 3rd and 3 at their own 47.

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 09:05 PM
Incomplete on the deep post. Fourth down. About 20 or so seconds left.

TheBisonator
August 27th, 2009, 09:06 PM
Incomplete on the deep post. Fourth down. About 20 or so seconds left.

OVEEY-TIME.....

MSUBear42
August 27th, 2009, 09:06 PM
20-20 tied, less than a minute left I think, ISU has 3rd and 3 at their own 47.

Goodness...

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 09:06 PM
Sycamores go for it on fourth down and a dropped snap on fourth down gives Quincy the ball at the ISU 42.

TheBisonator
August 27th, 2009, 09:07 PM
Sycamores go for it on fourth down and a dropped snap on fourth down gives Quincy the ball at the ISU 42.

Oh CRAP, Quincy has a chance to WIN THIS???

TheBisonator
August 27th, 2009, 09:07 PM
Goodness...

Yeah we know...xrolleyesx

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 09:07 PM
Long pass to the end zone on the final play of regulation is incomplete. We have OVERTIME in the first game of the season. What a way to start.

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 09:08 PM
The way ISU has played red zone defense tonight, I like the Trees to win this.

MSUBear42
August 27th, 2009, 09:09 PM
Oh CRAP, Quincy has a chance to WIN THIS???

No offense to INSU, but they deserve to lose this. That program has officially hit rock bottom.

TheBisonator
August 27th, 2009, 09:10 PM
The way ISU has played red zone defense tonight, I like the Trees to win this.

You're obviously watching the webcast, so I'll have to take your word on it.

TheBisonator
August 27th, 2009, 09:11 PM
No offense to INSU, but they deserve to lose this. That program has officially hit rock bottom.

Rock bottom?? They're halfway through the mantle of the Earth!! At this rate they'll end up in China!!

MSUBear42
August 27th, 2009, 09:11 PM
INSU turns the ball over.... wow.

I'm literally laughing out loud...

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 09:11 PM
ISU got a 9-yard sack on first down. Fumbled snap on second down.

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 09:12 PM
On second down, the snap gets past the Quincy QB and ISU recovers the fumble.

TheBisonator
August 27th, 2009, 09:12 PM
Please God, if there's one thing you in your infinite wisdom can give me as a Bison fan, it's not a national championship, it's JUST to beat ISU in Terre Haute this year. I don't know what we would have to endure as Bison fans if we somehow lost that game...

Amen.

TheBisonator
August 27th, 2009, 09:13 PM
On second down, the snap gets past the Quincy QB and ISU recovers the fumble.

OK, nobody wants to win this game, it looks like.

ValleyChamp
August 27th, 2009, 09:13 PM
INSU turns the ball over.... wow.

I'm literally laughing out loud...

Really? A bears fan laughing out loud at ISU. Ur not far behind buddy.xrulesxxcoffeex

Head Cat
August 27th, 2009, 09:14 PM
Run to the one on the second play for Quincy.

MSUBear42
August 27th, 2009, 09:14 PM
Quincy wins, 26-20.

WOW.

mango43
August 27th, 2009, 09:15 PM
Please God, if there's one thing you in your infinite wisdom can give me as a Bison fan, it's not a national championship, it's JUST to beat ISU in Terre Haute this year. I don't know what we would have to endure as Bison fans if we somehow lost that game...

Amen.

I'm not a Bison fan but I don't wish that on anyone. You would never hear the end of it and we might lose lakes...

I guess not everything that would come of it would be bad ;)

Model Citizen
August 27th, 2009, 09:15 PM
On to Cape Girardeau for the mighty Hawks. I'll be disappointed with anything less than a 15 page thread next week.

MSUBear42
August 27th, 2009, 09:15 PM
Really? A bears fan laughing out loud at ISU. Ur not far behind buddy.xrulesxxcoffeex

That's a non-informed/non-educated football fan's response. If you understood football, you would know that it takes a while to build a program from scratch like Allen has had to do here.

ISUMatt
August 27th, 2009, 09:15 PM
OK, nobody wants to win this game, it looks like.


I told anyone who would listen in the mvfc prediction that Indy st was horrible. They will bring up the read of the mvfc again.

TheBisonator
August 27th, 2009, 09:16 PM
This is sad beyond my wildest melancholy.

leatherneck177
August 27th, 2009, 09:16 PM
jeez, you know what though, I do remember Western almost lost to Quincy in 2004, they won 27-24 or something like that. Needless to say, they finished 4-7 that season.

BEAR
August 27th, 2009, 09:16 PM
Quincy wins, 26-20.

WOW.


xeekxxeekxxeekx OK...I just don't understand. xconfusedx

TheBisonator
August 27th, 2009, 09:18 PM
xeekxxeekxxeekx OK...I just don't understand. xconfusedx

What is there to understand?? It's Indiana State.

Only 12 more weeks till basketball season.

DSUrocks07
August 27th, 2009, 09:18 PM
Quincy wins, 26-20.

WOW.

xeekx
xnonono2x

ISUMatt
August 27th, 2009, 09:19 PM
Seriously Indiana state needs to fold their football program. Awful team awful facilities awful support.

ValleyChamp
August 27th, 2009, 09:19 PM
That's a non-informed/non-educated football fan's response. If you understood football, you would know that it takes a while to build a program from scratch like Allen has had to do here.

Huh?

Believe me I know what I'm talking about.

I don't care that you are building from the ground up with UNI's recycled coach. So is Indiana State. That doesn't change the fact that you are in about the same positon as they are.

TheBisonator
August 27th, 2009, 09:20 PM
Huh?

Believe me I know what I'm talking about.

I don't care that you are building fromt he ground up with UNI's recycled coach. So is Indiana State. That doesn't change the fact that you are in about the same positon as they are.

At least Missouri State has won some games in the past three calendar years...

Umass74
August 27th, 2009, 09:24 PM
OK, it didn't take long for the upset of the year to happen. When was the last time a NAIA team beat a Division I program? xeekx

MSUBear42
August 27th, 2009, 09:24 PM
Huh?

Believe me I know what I'm talking about.

I don't care that you are building from the ground up with UNI's recycled coach. So is Indiana State. That doesn't change the fact that you are in about the same positon as they are.

Coming from someone who used to coach and play football, clearly you don't.

I'm pretty sure we had 3 league wins last season... We were one freak-accident play against SIU from finishing tied for 4th last season.

Every year we have gotten better talent, Allen is consistently bringing in better players and even if they could make an impact they're redshirting. It takes a while to see results when you do that.

UNI's recycled coach? He left you guys for a better opportunity.

Am I jealous of UNI football? Hell yes I am, but that doesn't give you the right to put us and InSU in the same boat.

TheBisonator
August 27th, 2009, 09:26 PM
"One more thing before I go, and then I'm done and I can go home..." -Kurt Cobain

I really hope no one else in the FCS world takes this loss tonight as indicative of all of MVFC football. The MVFC is at LEAST one of the three best FCS conferences, and we go through the proving ground every week. We're a DANG GOOD CONFERENCE. Indiana State does not represent even the middle-tier schools of the Valley like WIU, NDSU, SDSU, etc. PLEASE understand that come Thanksgiving weekend, our (2 or 3 or even 4) teams will be battling hard in the playoffs to represent our conference in the best possible way. I seriously thought when the Trees were up 17-3 that ISU would be something like a 3-8 or 4-7 team this year. Now that has been shattered to death. I pray for the sake of everyone else in our conference, that we all try our best to beat up on ISU Blue in every game this year in order to salvage our respect. And if any Indiana State fan doesn't like what I just wrote, TS. You earned that tonight.

Out.

downbythebeach
August 27th, 2009, 09:35 PM
The Pioneer is taking your autobid

RabidRabbit
August 27th, 2009, 09:36 PM
Coming from someone who used to coach and play football, clearly you don't.

I'm pretty sure we had 3 league wins last season... We were one freak-accident play against SIU from finishing tied for 4th last season.

Every year we have gotten better talent, Allen is consistently bringing in better players and even if they could make an impact they're redshirting. It takes a while to see results when you do that.

UNI's recycled coach? He left you guys for a better opportunity.

Am I jealous of UNI football? Hell yes I am, but that doesn't give you the right to put us and InSU in the same boat.

Didn't Bears and Trees go to overtime last year? xconfusedxxconfusedx

If so, I think that has more to do with why Bears and Trees are lumped together.

If not, I humbly apologize for my faulty memory. xsmiley_wix

RabidRabbit
August 27th, 2009, 09:38 PM
BTW - Sad day for Trees, and rebuilding. Hope that they can get a win this year someplace, preferrably OOC.

Model Citizen
August 27th, 2009, 09:38 PM
Indiana State does not represent even the middle-tier schools of blah, blah, blah...

That's fine and dandy. But also understand that at 6-5 last year, Quincy is barely representing a mid-tier NAIA.

MSUBear42
August 27th, 2009, 09:38 PM
It was too close to comfort, I'll give you that.

DSUrocks07
August 27th, 2009, 09:43 PM
OK playoff prognosticators...

Does this basically destroy the MVFC's conference rating in regards to potential at large berths? (i.e. an 8-4 NDSU vs an 8-4 Texas State) I know the season has barely even started yet, but in the grand scheme of things you have to always have your eye to the future.

ValleyChamp
August 27th, 2009, 09:45 PM
MSUBear, fine... You are above ISU, by a little. Congratulations.

ValleyChamp
August 27th, 2009, 09:45 PM
OK playoff prognosticators...

Does this basically destroy the MVFC's conference rating in regards to potential at large berths? (i.e. an 8-4 NDSU vs an 8-4 Texas State) I know the season has barely even started yet, but in the grand scheme of things you have to always have your eye to the future.

No.

TheBisonator
August 27th, 2009, 09:47 PM
OK playoff prognosticators...

Does this basically destroy the MVFC's conference rating in regards to potential at large berths? (i.e. an 8-4 NDSU vs an 8-4 Texas State) I know the season has barely even started yet, but in the grand scheme of things you have to always have your eye to the future.

No. Don't be ridiculous.

UNHWildCats
August 27th, 2009, 09:49 PM
OK playoff prognosticators...

Does this basically destroy the MVFC's conference rating in regards to potential at large berths? (i.e. an 8-4 NDSU vs an 8-4 Texas State) I know the season has barely even started yet, but in the grand scheme of things you have to always have your eye to the future.
Maybe if NDSU loses to Indiana State xwhistlexxwhistlex

Lehigh Football Nation
August 27th, 2009, 09:49 PM
Gee, I thought I was pretty safe in picking Indiana State to beat a NAIA team.....

Model Citizen
August 27th, 2009, 09:52 PM
LFN,

I don't understand your comment. Have you ever seen an NAIA team?

BearsCountry
August 27th, 2009, 09:55 PM
Quincy is a D2 school playing NAIA football. That is going to change here soon.

DSUrocks07
August 27th, 2009, 10:02 PM
No. Don't be ridiculous.

NDSU was just an example for my argument. Don't get your jockstraps in a bunch. You really don't think that a game like this would hurt the entire MVFC's SOS to the point where it COULD be a factor? The MEAC takes flak all the time about how weak our teams are and how we would never be considered for an at-large. Now I realize that it's apples to oranges (due to our playoff history which is the bigger factor) but Indy State losing to an NAIA squad makes them a statistically weaker opponent for the rest of your conference to face. I echo your own post earlier, I hope that the "Sick-amores" go winless in conference play for the sake of your own playoff hopes.

MSUBear42
August 27th, 2009, 10:04 PM
MSUBear, fine... You are above ISU, by a little. Congratulations.

Thanks!!

LakesBison
August 27th, 2009, 10:35 PM
KICK INDIANA STATE OUT OF MVFC NOW.

Ill start the petition:

Lakesbison 1

ISUMatt
August 27th, 2009, 10:36 PM
OK, it didn't take long for the upset of the year to happen. When was the last time a NAIA team beat a Division I program? xeekx

Indiana St last yr or 2 yrs ago

NHwildEcat
August 27th, 2009, 10:39 PM
Quincy wins, 26-20.

WOW.

That sucks...

Silenoz
August 27th, 2009, 10:41 PM
OK, it didn't take long for the upset of the year to happen. When was the last time a NAIA team beat a Division I program? xeekx

Last year, if memory serves...

LakesBison
August 27th, 2009, 10:46 PM
SOUTH DAKOTA STATE.... oh wait.. that was a D3 Wisconsin-Lacrosse.. my bad.

BigHouseClosedEnd
August 27th, 2009, 10:50 PM
The Pioneer is taking your autobid

xlolxxlolxxrotatehxxbowx

mmiller_34
August 27th, 2009, 11:42 PM
SOUTH DAKOTA STATE.... oh wait.. that was a D3 Wisconsin-Lacrosse.. my bad.


They were good? The field was wet? The refs were bad? Indiana St actually raided the locker room and dressed up as SDSU for a night? uhhhhh.... Lightning struck the field? errrrr.... We thought we were playing flag football? xoopsx

Native
August 27th, 2009, 11:50 PM
Quincy wins, 26-20.

WOW.

Does this officially make Missouri Valley the WORST conference in the FCS?!??

EmeryZach
August 27th, 2009, 11:52 PM
Yes

LakesBison
August 28th, 2009, 12:04 AM
NOPE< we just have the 1 worst team in FCS

strike00
August 28th, 2009, 12:31 AM
How would this change anyones view of the MVFC? Indiana State has lost the last 27 games and have lost 51 out of their last 52 or something crazy like that, three winless seasons in four years. This is not like its something new. The trees have probably been the worst Scholarship D1 team the last four years. Its not going to hurt the MVFC anymore than it has previously.

that being said I really believed the Trees would win this easily. They seemed to be headed in the right direction heading into this season, maybe upgrading from "terrible" to "very bad". This is a bad start for the Sycs. :(

SIUallDay
August 28th, 2009, 12:44 AM
**shrugs shoulders**

It's happened at other schools.....


All I could do was SMH when I saw who their next opponent was.....

http://www.acheapseat.com/images_user/pictures/louisville%20cardinals.jpg

JayJ79
August 28th, 2009, 01:11 AM
That's a non-informed/non-educated football fan's response. If you understood football, you would know that it takes a while to build a program from scratch like Allen has had to do here.

If TA had to build MSU's program "from scratch", then what exactly do the Sycamore coaches have to work with? Is there something less-than-scratch? Because I'm sure that TA inherited alot more football resources when he came in than Trent Miles did.


Oh well, I guess Missouri State still has the distinction of being the only team to lose to Indiana State in the last 52 games.

ValleyChamp
August 28th, 2009, 01:13 AM
Oh well, I guess Missouri State still has the distinction of being the only team to lose to Indiana State in the last 52 games.

xlolx

JayJ79
August 28th, 2009, 01:19 AM
OK playoff prognosticators...

Does this basically destroy the MVFC's conference rating in regards to potential at large berths? (i.e. an 8-4 NDSU vs an 8-4 Texas State) I know the season has barely even started yet, but in the grand scheme of things you have to always have your eye to the future.

It lowers the "Strength of schedule" for the other teams in the league, sure, just like it lowers EIU's strength of schedule, since they play Indiana State as well.

But it is silly to think that it DESTROYS it.

Besides, judging an entire conference based on it's weakest team is rather silly.
That's like determining your opinion of the entire SoCon based on UT-Chattanooga or your opinion of the CAA based on Northeaster, or your opinion of the Big 12 based on Iowa State.

blukeys
August 28th, 2009, 01:27 AM
It lowers the "Strength of schedule" for the other teams in the league, sure, just like it lowers EIU's strength of schedule, since they play Indiana State as well.

But it is silly to think that it DESTROYS it.

Besides, judging an entire conference based on it's weakest team is rather silly.
That's like determining your opinion of the entire SoCon based on UT-Chattanooga or your opinion of the CAA based on Northeaster, or your opinion of the Big 12 based on Iowa State.

Northeastern is always a tough out and would never lose to a team like Quincy. If one wanted to have Northeastern play UT-Chattanooga or Indiana State, I am ok with how they would perform. They have taken the likes of Georgia Southern to the limit in recent years.

If Northeastern is your example of a CAA patsy then the CAA is much better than the MVFC.

Redbird Ray
August 28th, 2009, 08:18 AM
Are you fn kidding me Trees? I've been one of the few supporters of ISU blue saying that this is the year they turn it around, and then you faceplant against an NAIA? Holy Crap. Please submit your application for the Pioneer League.

As said before, ISU BLUE DOES NOT REPRESENT THE QUALITY OF FOOTBALL PLAYED IN THE MVFC AS A WHOLE. ISU Red may be bad this year, but we would have drilled fn Quincy. Wow. xsmhx

Redbird Ray
August 28th, 2009, 08:47 AM
On a positive note, from the game pics I saw, it looked like a legit 7K was in attendance. I hope this loss doesn't drive too many of the fans away. I'd like to think that even if my team was as bad as ISU Blue, I'd still show up routinely to tailgate and so on.

darell1976
August 28th, 2009, 09:26 AM
Maybe one of us GWFC teams could take their place in the MVFC...maybe UND??:D

TheBisonator
August 28th, 2009, 09:59 AM
Maybe one of us GWFC teams could take their place in the MVFC...maybe UND??:D

No.

TheBisonator
August 28th, 2009, 10:02 AM
One question for people who might know: Why is Quincy Division II in all sports except for NAIA football?? Is that allowed?? I thought there was some kind of new DII football conference in their region that they could play in (I forgot the name of it). Perhaps Quincy could just play in that DII conference...

darell1976
August 28th, 2009, 10:13 AM
One question for people who might know: Why is Quincy Division II in all sports except for NAIA football?? Is that allowed?? I thought there was some kind of new DII football conference in their region that they could play in (I forgot the name of it). Perhaps Quincy could just play in that DII conference...

They play in the Great Lakes Valley Conference in all sports except football.

darell1976
August 28th, 2009, 10:13 AM
No.

xlolxxlolx

89Hen
August 28th, 2009, 10:19 AM
NOPE< we just have the 1 worst team in FCS
Finally agree with Lakes. This loss is embarrassing to InSU but not the MV. xpeacex

Go...gate
August 28th, 2009, 10:38 AM
One game, fellas. I can remember some awful losses at Colgate after we hit rock bottom, too.

Silenoz
August 28th, 2009, 10:51 AM
It lowers the "Strength of schedule" for the other teams in the league, sure, just like it lowers EIU's strength of schedule, since they play Indiana State as well.

But it is silly to think that it DESTROYS it.

Besides, judging an entire conference based on it's weakest team is rather silly.
That's like determining your opinion of the entire SoCon based on UT-Chattanooga or your opinion of the CAA based on Northeaster, or your opinion of the Big 12 based on Iowa State.
I dunno about you, but when I think about this game, I think about how terrible UNI is xlolx

TheBisonator
August 28th, 2009, 10:55 AM
I dunno about you, but when I think about this game, I think about how terrible UNI is xlolx

Heck, we only beat the Trees 34-7 last year AT OUR PLACE. Which is what scares me even more.xreadx

89Hen
August 28th, 2009, 11:13 AM
One game, fellas. I can remember some awful losses at Colgate after we hit rock bottom, too.
I don't know. This is pretty bad. Quincy isn't bad.... they are really bad. They haven't won more than 6 games since 1994. In that time, here are their I-AA games...

WIU 63 - Quincy 0
UCA 51 - Quincy 6
SIU 59 - Quincy 14
MSU 51 - Quincy 14
WIU 38 - Qunicy 31
SIU 64 - Quincy 14
ILSU 55 - Quincy 10

and South Dakota 59 - Quincy 0

This has to go down as one of the worst losses by a I-AA ever.

BEAR
August 28th, 2009, 12:23 PM
I don't know about you..but I CAN see the forest for the Trees. It's a dark and scary year for Ind. State. xnodx

galen
September 5th, 2009, 02:40 AM
Quincey lost to SEMO 72-3 this week. So logically, if SEMO played ISU, they'd probably make Bill Cosby's Temple/Hofstra games look like down to the wire nailbiters.