TSN Preseason Poll

[TexasTerror]

Just saw this release...as always, several interesting teams getting votes. 79 first place votes to Appy. 72 to Richmond! Wow...look at those numbers!


Sports Network's FCS College Football Poll
Team (First-place votes) Record Points Previous Rank
1. Appalachian State Mountaineers (79) 0-0 3,853 5
2. Richmond Spiders (72) 0-0 3,792 1
3. Montana Grizzlies (2) 0-0 3,506 2
4. Northern Iowa Panthers (2) 0-0 3,408 4
5. Villanova Wildcats (2) 0-0 3,285 6
6. James Madison Dukes (1) 0-0 3,069 3
7. Southern Illinois Salukis 0-0 2,897 11
8. New Hampshire Wildcats 0-0 2,544 8
9. Weber State Wildcats (1) 0-0 2,525 7
10. Wofford Terriers 0-0 2,169 9
11. Elon Phoenix 0-0 2,162 17
12. Cal Poly Mustangs 0-0 1,780 10
13. Central Arkansas Bears 0-0 1,670 12
14. William & Mary Tribe 0-0 1,635 20
15. McNeese State Cowboys 0-0 1,453 21
16. South Carolina State Bulldogs (1) 0-0 1,379 13
17. Massachusetts Minutemen 0-0 1,055 NR
18. Eastern Washington Eagles 0-0 1,038 NR
19. Maine Black Bears 0-0 1,033 18
20. Texas State Bobcats 0-0 860 22
21. Jacksonville State Gamecocks 0-0 808 23
22. South Dakota State Jackrabbits 0-0 707 NR
23. Harvard Crimson 0-0 504 15
24. Eastern Kentucky Colonels 0-0 394 19
25. Grambling State Tigers 0-0 382 24
25. Holy Cross Crusaders 0-0 382 NR

Others receiving votes: Georgia Southern 335, Liberty 330, Colgate 319, North Dakota State 252, Montana State 217, Hofstra 206, Delaware 202, Florida A&M 194, Tennessee-Martin 192, Furman 171, Northern Arizona 169, Youngstown State 145, Eastern Illinois 93, Albany 64, UC Davis 63, Western Illinois 61, Penn 56, Coastal Carolina 52, Prairie View A&M 52, Samford 49, Tennessee State 47, Jackson State 46, Southern 39, Hampton 38, Bethune-Cookman 37, Brown 32, Northwestern State 30, San Diego 20, Lafayette 17, Delaware State 16, Jacksonville 16, Lehigh 16, Arkansas-Pine Bluff 15, Western Carolina 14, Charleston Southern 12, North Dakota 12, Fordham 10, Norfolk State 10, Stony Brook 10, The Citadel 10, Towson 10, Morgan State. 8, Monmouth 5, Yale 4, Alabama A&M 2, Illinois State 2, Missouri State 2, Murray State 2, Presbyterian 2, Gardner-Webb 1, Portland State 1, Robert Morris 1, Southeastern Louisiana 1

http://sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/misc/TSN-DIV-1AA-POLL.htm

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Very glad Holy Cross cracked the Top 25. xthumbsupx

[PhoenixSupreme]

SC State got a first place vote!?

[appmaj]

Sports Network's FCS College Football Poll


9. Weber State Wildcats (1) 0-0 2,525 7

16. South Carolina State Bulldogs (1) 0-0 1,379 13

xeekxxeekxxeekx

[danefan]

Not a bad poll actually.

UCA is too high probably, but everyone has overlooked how much they lost, IMO and the random 1st place votes for Weber and SC State are just dumb.

Other than that, TSN voters got their obligatory PL, Ivy and SWAC teams in xwhistlex. But that's not really news considering it happens every poll and at least they put them in the bottom.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

It wasn't me that voted them No. 1, but don't sell them short. They are good.

[Head Cat]

I like seeing Villanova in the top five. Overall, a pretty good poll. Great to see 160 voters participate in the vote.

[Hoyadestroya85]

Yet another year where Villanova gets dumped on :(

[93henfan]

It's a preseason poll. Not much more needs to be said.

[TexasTerror]

Not a bad poll actually.

UCA is too high probably, but everyone has overlooked how much they lost, IMO and the random 1st place votes for Weber and SC State are just dumb.

Why is UCA too high? Have you seen how many individuals they have returned?

Sure, they lost Nathan Brown - which is probably the only guy at UCA that you could name off the top of your head. However, they do have plenty of other talent coming back and took up most of the SLC preseason squads.

I think UCA is about right in the 15 range. 13 is not too much of a stretch!

[danefan]

Why is UCA too high? Have you seen how many individuals they have returned?

Sure, they lost Nathan Brown - which is probably the only guy at UCA that you could name off the top of your head. However, they do have plenty of other talent coming back and took up most of the SLC preseason squads.

I think UCA is about right in the 15 range. 13 is not too much of a stretch!

Losing Brown is huge. I don't think Park can do nearly what is needed in the passing game, especially considering the losses of all of their top receivers (Marquez Branson and Eric Ware to graduation and Landers to a season-ending injury). Add in the loss of 3 starting o-linemen (including 2 All-SLC) from last year (Ford, Gordon and Cunningham) and you have a team that has to completely rebuild a pass-happy offense with mostly new WR's and Olinemen.


They should be solid defensively, but they loss of Johnson will hurt them in the secondary.

They just lost too much from last year to be in the top 20 preseason, IMO.xpeacex

[tribe_pride]

I like seeing Villanova in the top five. Overall, a pretty good poll. Great to see 160 voters participate in the vote.


Yet another year where Villanova gets dumped on :(

Can't please everyone I guess

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

LMAO at some of the teams in the "other receiving votes" category. xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolx

[danefan]

LMAO at some of the teams in the "other receiving votes" category. xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolx


What you don't think Robert Morris is top 25 material? xreadxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolx

[TexasTerror]

TT's List of Questionable Teams in ARV category...the real befuddling ones are UAPB and Chuck South...

Jacksonville 16
Arkansas-Pine Bluff 15
Charleston Southern 12
Morgan State. 8
Monmouth 5
Presbyterian 2,
Robert Morris 1

[slycat]

Why is UCA too high? Have you seen how many individuals they have returned?

Sure, they lost Nathan Brown - which is probably the only guy at UCA that you could name off the top of your head. However, they do have plenty of other talent coming back and took up most of the SLC preseason squads.

I think UCA is about right in the 15 range. 13 is not too much of a stretch!


Really? Then where do the five you ranked above them fit in?



TT's Fearless Predictions...

1. TXST (5-2)
2. McNeese (5-2)
3. SLU (4-3)
4. SHSU (4-3)
5. NWST (3-4)
6. UCA (3-4)
7. SFA (2-5)
8. Nicholls (2-5)

[Head Cat]

Yet another year where Villanova gets dumped on :(

Can you elaborate? What is wrong with No. 5? It's the highest preseason ranking ever for the Wildcats.

[TexasTerror]

Really? Then where do the five you ranked above them fit in?

We're talking preseason and of course, things have changed to some degree in several areas - both at UCA and around the conference.

Thanks for calling me out on those fearless predictions. I need to revamp them, because I disagree with them today. xnodx

[UNIFanSince1983]

8 of 9 Valley teams at least receiving votes. I personally can't believe people had Illinois State or Missouri State ranked in their polls. I mean Missouri State could be a surprise, but I don't think you can have them in your Top 25 preseason.

[kdinva]

TT's List of Questionable Teams in ARV category...the real befuddling ones are UAPB and Chuck South...

Jacksonville 16
Arkansas-Pine Bluff 15
Charleston Southern 12
Morgan State. 8
Monmouth 5
Presbyterian 2,
Robert Morris 1
....and Presby and JU...........the one Big South team not mentioned will be turning heads in 10 days.

[leatherneck177]

It's a preseason poll. Not much more needs to be said.

agreed.

[slycat]

We're talking preseason and of course, things have changed to some degree in several areas - both at UCA and around the conference.

Thanks for calling me out on those fearless predictions. I need to revamp them, because I disagree with them today. xnodx

:D:D:D

[ngineer]

Who votes in that poll anyway???

[ngineer]

TT's List of Questionable Teams in ARV category...the real befuddling ones are UAPB and Chuck South...

Jacksonville 16
Arkansas-Pine Bluff 15
Charleston Southern 12
Morgan State. 8
Monmouth 5
Presbyterian 2,
Robert Morris 1

Just like baseball in March, "hope springs eternal" in August for football...xrotatehx

[BDKJMU]

SC State got a first place vote!?


It wasn't me that voted them No. 1, but don't sell them short. They are good.

I think FAMU will take the MEAC. I know TSN picked SCSU #1 and FAMU #2, as did most people. For FAMU I heard a claim of 18 starters back from last season's 9-3 team. Plus this will be Joe Taylor's 2nd season- remember he took Hampton to 3 straight MEAC titles & playoffs 04'-06'. SCSU has only 9 starters returning from the game notes from their ASU loss in the playoffs.

IF JMU makes the playoffs as a non seed (a good possibility) and ASU makes it as a seed (likely) the only way JMU doesn't go to ASU in the 1st round is if SCSU is in the playoffs, as Orangeburg is about 230 miles from Boone, with the next closest non So-Con contender being JMU at about 285 miles. So as I said over on JMU's forum on the CAAZone (JMU should have their own board soon!) JMU fans need to root for SCSU and against FAMU (FAMU is @ SCSU Oct 17).

[BDKJMU]

Can you elaborate? What is wrong with No. 5? It's the highest preseason ranking ever for the Wildcats.

Nope. 04' was also pre season #5 (I know Nova was #5 when unranked JMU upset them 17-0 in a torrential downpour (remnants of Hurricane I forgot)) in week 3. Course that season you ended up I believe 6-5 & no playoffs.

[IaaScribe]

Who votes in that poll anyway???

SIDs, broadcasters, beat writers (yours truly included) and assorted others.

I did not rank Presbyterian, or any other Big South team, in my Top 25.

[smallcollegefbfan]

SIDs, broadcasters, beat writers (yours truly included) and assorted others.

I did not rank Presbyterian, or any other Big South team, in my Top 25.

I don't understand why someone ranked Presbyterian. I think there were 10-15 teams that made no sense but it is the preseason and nobody truly knows for sure who is going to finish in the top 25. As we have seen in the past, anything can happen in FCS! xthumbsupx

[wideright82]

Nope. 04' was also pre season #5 (I know Nova was #5 when unranked JMU upset them 17-0 in a torrential downpour (remnants of Hurricane I forgot)) in week 3. Course that season you ended up I believe 6-5 & no playoffs.


Yes we did. That was an interesting year for Villanova. Aside from that game we were routinely putting up 30+ points and the defense just couldn't stop any team with some strength on offense. I don't remember what we were ranked tho preseason. It was right around 4-7 though.

[Tribe4SF]

Keep it all in perspective. Last year Villanova was barely in the top 20, and W&M was not even getting votes in the top 25.

[Bam]

Jax St needs a * next to its entry.

[Head Cat]

Nope. 04' was also pre season #5 (I know Nova was #5 when unranked JMU upset them 17-0 in a torrential downpour (remnants of Hurricane I forgot)) in week 3. Course that season you ended up I believe 6-5 & no playoffs.

Villanova was ranked No. 9 in the 2004 TSN preseason poll and didn't rise to No. 5 until Sept. 13. The Villanova sports information department and TSN are both reporting No. 5 as the highest preseason ranking ever for the Wildcats.

[jmufan999]

I like seeing Villanova in the top five. Overall, a pretty good poll. Great to see 160 voters participate in the vote.

top 5? that's an understatement... i saw Nova play twice last year, saw UNI once and Montana once.

i'm telling you right now that all things being equal, at least for last year.... Nova was a better team than both. not a HUGE gap for either one, but i believe Nova was extremely dangerous on offense. their D gets all the credit, but they were explosive.

now, 2008 app state vs. 2008 Nova? that would have been an UNBELIEVABLY good game. i would have actually paid to watch that. talk about speed on offense for both teams, WOW.

anyway, preseason polls.... what can ya do? JMU's position is pretty generous, but whatever. i'll take it. i still think we're a 7-4 team on the outside looking in (playoffs)...

[JSU02]

Jax St needs a * next to its entry.

Why?

The purpose of a poll is to rank teams according to how good people perceive them to be.

Does UCA need a star? Do the Ivy teams or SWAC teams need a star?

[FCS Go!]

Why?

The purpose of a poll is to rank teams according to how good people perceive them to be.

Does UCA need a star? Do the Ivy teams or SWAC teams need a star?

I'm interested in the explanation for this one too. xeyebrowx

[Buzzcut]

Jax St needs a * next to its entry.


Umm...what?

[BigHouseClosedEnd]

top 5? that's an understatement... i saw Nova play twice last year, saw UNI once and Montana once.

i'm telling you right now that all things being equal, at least for last year.... Nova was a better team than both. not a HUGE gap for either one, but i believe Nova was extremely dangerous on offense. their D gets all the credit, but they were explosive.

now, 2008 app state vs. 2008 Nova? that would have been an UNBELIEVABLY good game. i would have actually paid to watch that. talk about speed on offense for both teams, WOW.

anyway, preseason polls.... what can ya do? JMU's position is pretty generous, but whatever. i'll take it. i still think we're a 7-4 team on the outside looking in (playoffs)...

I concur. We played pretty much everyone last year and I think Villanova was the best team we played. We were fortunate to not play them in the playoffs.

[JMU Newbill]

OMG THIS POLL IS HORRIBLE! JMU should be #1 and should get all of the #1 votes.


..... again I plee to the football gods..... give us something better than preseason polls to talk about!

[darell1976]

12 votes for North Dakota!!!! Way to go Sioux!!!!!!:)xthumbsupx

[Bam]

The Jax St. Gamecocks were banned for the postseason this year following a low score on the NCAA’s Academic Progress Report. The school’s appeal was rejected, meaning JSU cannot participate in the playoffs or be recognized as league champion by the Ohio Valley Conference.

[JSU02]

Thats OLD news bud. Still don't see why that requires a "*"

Ivy teams dont participate in the playoffs, should they get a *?
UCA isn't able to go to the playoffs, should they get a *?


Maybe you don't get the point of a poll xconfusedx

[smallcollegefbfan]

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/news/newstest.aspx?id=4250047

[Buzzcut]

Thats OLD news bud. Still don't see why that requires a "*"

Ivy teams dont participate in the playoffs, should they get a *?
UCA isn't able to go to the playoffs, should they get a *?


Maybe you don't get the point of a poll xconfusedx

Agreed, this is old news. Many FCS teams throughout the course of the season get a top 25 ranking and for whatever reason do not participate in post-season play. Time to flush out the headgear, Bam.

[Uncle Buck]

OMG THIS POLL IS HORRIBLE! JMU should be #1 and should get all of the #1 votes.


..... again I plee to the football gods..... give us something better than preseason polls to talk about!

Welcome to the board Mickey! xthumbsupx

[phillyAPP]

Welcome to the board Mickey! xthumbsupx

I second that "WELCOME TO THE BOARD, MICKEY" LMAO

JMU............JMU................JMU............. .......JMU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!