Best Player in the FCS this year?

[HenZoneNation]

With football season right around the corner I was wondering two things:

1) Who do you think is the best FCS player this year?


2) Who do you think will be the best FCS player next year?

I have a feeling that a lot of people will put AE for this year and wanted to make it more interesting so I added future stars to the discussion.

[GannonFan]

It's certainly Edwards this year, hard to imagine there's even a discussion about that.

For 2010, could be Devlin - let's see how he does this year (but keeping my fingers crossed). xpeacex

[TexasTerror]

Edwards this year...

And just looking at SLC talent, perhaps someone like TXST's Karrington Bush next year? He is a sensational all-purpose player.

[Bam]

AE this yr & next yr will be Appy's FBS transfer QB they gain in the off season.

[mcveyrl]

AE this yr & next yr will be Appy's FBS transfer QB they gain in the off season.

I thought they had a guy named Pressley that was supposed to be AE incarnate...

[PaladinFan]

I thought they had a guy named Pressley that was supposed to be AE incarnate...

Pressley is undoubtedly a talented athlete. However, I think it is pretty unreasonable to think anyone can step in for AE and keep things going at the same level. Edwards is one of the great players this level has seen.

[Bam]

AE Incarnate sound like a great name for my metal group.

[SideLine Shooter]

AE this yr & next yr will be Appy's FBS transfer QB they gain in the off season.

I like your thinking on that, but Pressley may be a better passer than Armanti.

[Appinator]

AE this yr & next yr will be Appy's FBS transfer QB they gain in the off season.

Must not follow our program much.....App really does not rely on any FBS transfers for key role players on either side of the ball. Devin Radford has really been the only "major" additions to the Apps over the last two seasons FBS transfer wise, but he is listed as our 3rd running back on the depth chart. Not knocking transfers at all, just saying it hasn't been our historical "MO". Over our championship run, our only significant FBS transfer was our kicker, everyone else was homegrown.

Pressley has a chance to be great, just not Armanti GREAT. If you get to see him play any this year (hopefully not in an extended appearance, only at the end of games), you'll be impressed.

[ASU_MBA]

AE this year and either Pressley or the transfer QB Travaris Cadet for App next year...he is suppose to be sick and was a top recruit in 2007
look at the info....
http://appalachianstate.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=44038&sport=1

[Appinator]

AE this year and either Pressley or the transfer QB Travaris Cadet for App next year...he is suppose to be sick and was a top recruit in 2007
look at the info....
http://appalachianstate.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=44038&sport=1

I just don't think Cadet is going to play QB for us. I think after Pressley, Jammil Lott will be the next guy. Cadet still isn't even listed as a QB. If he doesn't get assigned to that spot by the end of camp, I would say is chances are slim.

Lott, on the other hand, put up some great numbers for Kannapolis (one of NC's best HS teams) this past year, and is a prime time player.

[Silenoz]

So it's nearly unanimous that 2010's best player is someone with little to nothing proven yet xlolx

[ASU_MBA]

I like Lott also but his passing game is light years behind the college level....Cadet may move to WR but the tape on that guy shows he is the real deal.....and I understand he chose App over other schools so he could have a shot at playing QB. It should be interesting...

[Mikeyosef]

No doubt the best FCS player this year has to be AE. Next year who knows but this year it's AE baby!

[ASU_MBA]

So it's nearly unanimous that 2010's best player is someone with little to nothing proven yet xlolx

I agree....more of a wish I guess...

[BobcatJH]

Armanti Edwards, but that qb at Brown is a close second........

[elon77]

Armanti Edwards, but that qb at Brown is a close second........

No, Scott Riddle is second.xnodx

[Black Saturday]

I thought they had a guy named Pressley that was supposed to be AE incarnate...

LOL! Not by a long shot. And don't let anybody tell you differently. I hear fans say that and I'm wondering where its coming from. Not even close. imo

[DuckDuckGriz]

Armanti Edwards

Possible contenders IMO:
Trevyn Smith
Marc Mariani

[asknoquarter21]

09 Armanti Edward

10 is anyones guess

as far as the DeAndre Pressley thing

he is certainly faster than Armanti but his accuracy is no where near Armanti. DeAndre can run the offense and he has the coaches trying to figure out how to put him on the field.

I can't wait to see him and Armanti lineup in the backfield together this season.....

[R.A.]

South Carolina State University Bulldog
RB Will Ford
http://www.scsuathletics.com/images/2008/7/31/rp_primary_will-ford-vs-howard-(photo-by-Rodney-Pierce)-for-web.jpg

[AppMan]

I just don't think Cadet is going to play QB for us. I think after Pressley, Jammil Lott will be the next guy. Cadet still isn't even listed as a QB. If he doesn't get assigned to that spot by the end of camp, I would say is chances are slim.

Lott, on the other hand, put up some great numbers for Kannapolis (one of NC's best HS teams) this past year, and is a prime time player.

I like Lott a bunch and gave him my sleeper candidate at QB, but this Cadet kid is something special.

[BDKJMU]

Must not follow our program much.....App really does not rely on any FBS transfers for key role players on either side of the ball. Devin Radford has really been the only "major" additions to the Apps over the last two seasons FBS transfer wise, but he is listed as our 3rd running back on the depth chart. Not knocking transfers at all, just saying it hasn't been our historical "MO". Over our championship run, our only significant FBS transfer was our kicker, everyone else was homegrown.

Pressley has a chance to be great, just not Armanti GREAT. If you get to see him play any this year (hopefully not in an extended appearance, only at the end of games), you'll be impressed.

Didn't ASU get a DL transfer from LSU 2 years ago who is starting?

[Reign of Terrier]

I won't say he's the best but I think one of the 2 Qbs for Wofford will open some eyes, simply because they are probably the real first of their kind, like a mix of Josh Collier and Ben Widmyer in terms of natural talent (JC) and knowing the offense pretty well going in (BW). Mitch Allen sliced defenses last year while running the option with his relief duty and he's not a bad passer either. Robby Davis has some quick feet and hasn't shown much, but that's a PT thing as oppose to a talent thing.

bottom line: they'll open some eyes this year.

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/sout/sports/m-footbl/auto_action/2586998.jpeg
Southern University's Bryant Lee

[wideright82]

Aaron Ball

[ericsaid]

I just don't think Cadet is going to play QB for us. I think after Pressley, Jammil Lott will be the next guy. Cadet still isn't even listed as a QB. If he doesn't get assigned to that spot by the end of camp, I would say is chances are slim.

Lott, on the other hand, put up some great numbers for Kannapolis (one of NC's best HS teams) this past year, and is a prime time player.

No, Jamal Jackson looks like the quarterback they should choose from the videos. He's big has a strong arm and can run. Jammil Lott wasn't the best passer from what I saw.

[AppFan61]

Didn't ASU get a DL transfer from LSU 2 years ago who is starting?
Yes, but he wound up leaving after a year. Never really was an impact player.

[ASUTed]

I just don't think Cadet is going to play QB for us. I think after Pressley, Jammil Lott will be the next guy. Cadet still isn't even listed as a QB. If he doesn't get assigned to that spot by the end of camp, I would say is chances are slim.

Lott, on the other hand, put up some great numbers for Kannapolis (one of NC's best HS teams) this past year, and is a prime time player.

Dude, you have lost it.

Lott will not even get a look at QB and cadet could be starting over pressley next year. AL brown is not even close to Miami Central, I don't care how good the numbers are, at QB you have to be able to pass. Lott cannot pass.

[VT Wildcat Fan53]

AE this year, but how about pre-season CAA Offensive Player of the Year, Jr QB, RJ Toman, of UNH for the fall of 2010? Being the projected best offensive player in the best conference in the nation must count for something.

[Go...gate]

Dominick Randolph of Holy Cross?

[KiddBrewer]

So it's nearly unanimous that 2010's best player is someone with little to nothing proven yet xlolx

no, cause i believe its gonna be Brian Quick, Appalachian WR....who has proven he can be a BEAST!


and arent we kinda beating a dead horse here even having the question "who will be the best player this year?"xcoffeexxeyebrowxxthumbsupx

[KiddBrewer]

LOL! Not by a long shot. And don't let anybody tell you differently. I hear fans say that and I'm wondering where its coming from. Not even close. imo

xcoffeex.....people said Appalachian would never see another Richie Williams......xcoffeex


just kidding, i hate coffee AND armanti is the best we'll probably ever see.

[Appinator]

Dude, you have lost it.

Lott will not even get a look at QB and cadet could be starting over pressley next year. AL brown is not even close to Miami Central, I don't care how good the numbers are, at QB you have to be able to pass. Lott cannot pass.


No, Jamal Jackson looks like the quarterback they should choose from the videos. He's big has a strong arm and can run. Jammil Lott wasn't the best passer from what I saw.


I like Lott a bunch and gave him my sleeper candidate at QB, but this Cadet kid is something special.

I didn't know that throwing for over 1800 yards and 20 TDs in a spread option system was "not being able to throw". Lott can definitely throw.

AE's numbers his Senior year: 1100 yards, 18 TDs

Cadet might be good, but I am just saying I think Lott will be better.

Just think about it: IF Cadet was a prototypical QB for our system, WHY would he be transferring from Toledo, where Satterfield went? Does that make sense at all that he would leave a situation where he would be the best "fit" in their (Toledo's) group of QBs to run our EXACT SAME OFFENSE? If he didn't think that he would get to run it there, why would he be able to do it better at ASU? All three of their QBs on the depth are pocket passers, and their 4 year starter at QB had -44 yards rushing last year, you don't think they could have used someone who was a true dual-threat at QB if they were anything over decent?

Maybe we have found a diamond in the rough, but I just don't think he is going to be everything that you all are making him out to be.....

[jsugamecocks1]

I know we can't go to play-offs this year but we are still allowed to be ranked and such So I say what about Perrilloux or the WR transfer from GA Tech Greg Smith
Just wanted to throw those names out for debate

[crusader11]

Dominick Randolph of Holy Cross?

Not the best, but he is right up there. Kid is going to put up MONSTER numbers this year, and will pretty much rewrite the record books in the process.

[BDKJMU]

AE this year, but how about pre-season CAA Offensive Player of the Year, Jr QB, RJ Toman, of UNH for the fall of 2010? Being the projected best offensive player in the best conference in the nation must count for something.

Toman is good, but I don't get picking him over 4 yr UR starting QB Eric Ward.

[appmountaineer]

surprised I have not heard Cameron Higgins thrown in the mix yet.

of course i will say AE this season, but what Higgins did last season was special. If they can get some talent around him this year and next year he could be look at a Payton award winning QB

sorry Weber fans, i'm not really sure what you guys lost or gained this season. Curious to know though.

[CrunchGriz]

surprised I have not heard Cameron Higgins thrown in the mix yet.

of course i will say AE this season, but what Higgins did last season was special. If they can get some talent around him this year and next year he could be look at a Payton award winning QB

sorry Weber fans, i'm not really sure what you guys lost or gained this season. Curious to know though.

Weber State brings back almost all of the offensive talent they had last year: Higgins; Trevyn Smith, who will likely be one of the last 4 players added to the Payton Watch; Tim Toone, one of the top WRs in the country (84 catches, over 1500 receiving yards last year); and Cody Nakamura, a WR/TE hybrid with very good skills, just to name the most obvious stars. They lose Bryant Eteuati, a big threat at WR and returner.

Weber's question marks are on the defensive side, where they lost a lot of starters, but they still have at least a few very good players coming back: safety Beau Hadley, projected to be All-BSC; DE Kevin Linehan, and CB Josh Morris, already on the Buck Buchanan Watch.

WSU also is breaking in an inordinate number of coaches, which may or may not be a problem.

[ur2k]

Toman is good, but I don't get picking him over 4 yr UR starting QB Eric Ward.

Agreed, but for some reason Ward always gets overlooked. He doesn't have the flashy stats that wins these things - but he just wins games. That's ok if it makes him play with a huge chip on his shoulder.

[UNIFanSince1983]

I was very very impressed (angered) with Eric Ward last year. He has a ton of moxie and just that swagger that he will not let his team lose a game (like Vince Young at Texas). I am just not sure he is the 'best' player in FCS. He is a great player, however, and I completely agree he gets overlooked.

I am surprised there aren't any defensive players on this list or many wide receivers. I agree AE is probably the best, but who knows what will happen. There could be a star that emerges from somewhere we don't expect.

[MasonJar]

AE this yr & next yr will be Appy's FBS transfer QB they gain in the off season.

Yosef don't play that! Must have us confused with Furman or Delaware...

[drpnut]

I think we need to give serious consideration to what criteria we are using to judge who "is the best player in FCS."

Is the best player tag given to the best athlete?

Or is the Best player the one who leads his team the farthest?

Or is the best player the one who makes the most out of what he is given to work with(team, etc.)?

Etc....

My friends there can be too much "rationalization". Right now I think AE is the obvious choice, he is a freak of nature... but...

Hollaxconfusedx

[DLS]

I think we need to give serious consideration to what criteria we are using to judge who "is the best player in FCS."

Is the best player tag given to the best athlete?

Or is the Best player the one who leads his team the farthest?

Or is the best player the one who makes the most out of what he is given to work with(team, etc.)?

Etc....

My friends there can be too much "rationalization". Right now I think AE is the obvious choice, he is a freak of nature... but...

Hollaxconfusedx


“This is his senior year and I’m marking that down on my calendar,” Wofford coach Mike Ayers said of the Mountaineers’ quarterback. “That way, hopefully, I’ll not have as many nightmares about that guy.”


how about who gives the most nightmares to coaches

[elcid03]

The person doing the most for his team is The Citadel's Andre Roberts. He was just named to the Payton Watch List, is a 2X All-American and is listed as the #1 FCS NFL prospect for the draft next year. He burnt the Clemson starting defense for 157 yards and 2 touchdowns last year. He also had a 65 punt return with 2 minutes left last year to win the game against UTC. He has young guys around him and will be helping them along to make imoprovements for the future of Citadel footbal. I know it is homerish to say, I just want to give this young man his due. Just my .02

[Aho_Old_Guy]

I think we need to give serious consideration to what criteria we are using to judge who "is the best player in FCS."

Is the best player tag given to the best athlete?

Or is the Best player the one who leads his team the farthest?

Or is the best player the one who makes the most out of what he is given to work with(team, etc.)?

Etc....

My friends there can be too much "rationalization". Right now I think AE is the obvious choice, he is a freak of nature... but...

Hollaxconfusedx

Pretty much this.

If Appalachian stumbles a bit who's not to say someone like Matt Nichols if he has a monster year and EW runs the table. Success and a surprise element can go a long way.

Or Chase Reynolds rushes for 2,000+ yards and scores 30 TDs and the Griz whoop everyone's butt.

It may not seem fair but I'm pretty much best player with monster stats-best team. There is no 'I' in team - but there is one in wIn - xlolx - Just win, baby!

[AppAlum2003]

The person doing the most for his team is The Citadel's Andre Roberts. He was just named to the Payton Watch List, is a 2X All-American and is listed as the #1 FCS NFL prospect for the draft next year. He burnt the Clemson starting defense for 157 yards and 2 touchdowns last year. He also had a 65 punt return with 2 minutes left last year to win the game against UTC. He has young guys around him and will be helping them along to make imoprovements for the future of Citadel footbal. I know it is homerish to say, I just want to give this young man his due. Just my .02

Agreed that Roberts is special, but Cortez Gilbert completely shut him down last year. The best player in FCS does not get shut down.

[ur2k]

“This is his senior year and I’m marking that down on my calendar,” Wofford coach Mike Ayers said of the Mountaineers’ quarterback. “That way, hopefully, I’ll not have as many nightmares about that guy.”


how about who gives the most nightmares to coaches

Speaking of nightmares, do you think Armanti Edwards still has nightmares about Patrick Weldon #39 chasing him down?

/ ducks xsmiley_wix

Just kidding. I do think AE is the best player at this level. I think he and Sczur from Nova are 2 of the most exciting players to watch b/c you have no clue what's coming next.

[jmufan999]

i'm not reading 5 pages about this.

i guess it comes down to how you define "best". person who wins the WP award? or the best NFL prospect? Rodney Landers finished 2nd in the WP voting, ahead of Ramses Barden. but Barden is obviously an NFL caliber player while Rodney is not.

so assuming we're saying "best" meaning, "who will win the WP award".... it's almost always a QB. only been a WR once, if i remember right... Brian Finneran of Villanova. so if it's 90% likely that it's a QB, i really like Cameron Higgins. i actually think he's got a shot this year. he put up pretty sick numbers last year as a sophomore (right?).

[elcid03]

Didn't Presbyterian shut down AE last year? I seem to believe that was your big "scare" of the year and the amount of "pissed offness" that you guys had towards that game.

[hapapp]

Didn't Presbyterian shut down AE last year? I seem to believe that was your big "scare" of the year and the amount of "pissed offness" that you guys had towards that game.


Passing Att-Cmp-Int Yds TD Long Sack
--------------------------------------------
Armanti Edwards 23-12-0 220 1 72 1

I also believe he ran for 51 yards on 8 carries.

ASU won 48-14 with almost 700 total yards. AE only played 3 quarters of the game.

[coover]

Hey, isn't this thread to decide who may be the best FCS player, not the best FCS player on the East Coast, or the best FCS player in the CAA? I haven't seen much, here, on Big Sky or Great West Schools, and they, certainly have some of the best FCS players in the nation. The QB at Davis looks great, and Montana will have a monster line and backfield. Perhaps the best will come from there. Certainly Edwards from Appy is an excellent candidate, but he is not the only one.

[HenZoneNation]

I think Coover makes an excellent point. AE plays a position that gets a lot of attention and there is no doubt that he is a very good FCS QB. That being said, he's not at the same level that Pat White was (they are very similiar QB's) and White went in the second round and according to most reports on the NFL channel on Sirius White's a Wild Cat QB and a WR in most other packages. I know that this is a question solely based on college play, however, doesn't the play and evaluation of a player determine how good they really are? If you look at recent history, there will most likely be 2-3 players from the FCS that are taken before him. Maybe more. They may not have the hype or be in a position to post the stats that AE does but wouldn't that suggest that they are better than AE? The reporters on the NFL channel have been saying for weeks that Vick is a great athlete, not a great QB. Can the same be said for AE?

AE beat Joe Flacco in 07...who will end up being the better QB overall? I can't see any NFL team taking AE over Flacco. AE is a great athlete, I don't know if he's the best qb never mind best player in the FCS.

Just food for thought.

[Spider]

Eric Ward, just keeps getting the job done. Will be playing on Sunday's next year....xthumbsupx

[UNIFanSince1983]

The college game and NFL game are very very different. I think some of how well you project in the NFL determines how great of a player you are. That, however, should not be the sole determinant in this. There have been plenty of great NFL players who weren't the best in college, and plenty of great college players who never made it in the NFL.

[DX Man]

Didn't Presbyterian shut down AE last year? I seem to believe that was your big "scare" of the year and the amount of "pissed offness" that you guys had towards that game.


NO! xnonox

[DLS]

I think Coover makes an excellent point. AE plays a position that gets a lot of attention and there is no doubt that he is a very good FCS QB. That being said, he's not at the same level that Pat White was (they are very similiar QB's) and White went in the second round and according to most reports on the NFL channel on Sirius White's a Wild Cat QB and a WR in most other packages. I know that this is a question solely based on college play, however, doesn't the play and evaluation of a player determine how good they really are? If you look at recent history, there will most likely be 2-3 players from the FCS that are taken before him. Maybe more. They may not have the hype or be in a position to post the stats that AE does but wouldn't that suggest that they are better than AE? The reporters on the NFL channel have been saying for weeks that Vick is a great athlete, not a great QB. Can the same be said for AE?

AE beat Joe Flacco in 07...who will end up being the better QB overall? I can't see any NFL team taking AE over Flacco. AE is a great athlete, I don't know if he's the best qb never mind best player in the FCS.

Just food for thought.


as far as the vick is a great athlete and not qb thing goes, i believe that is half true and half because he is black and thats what the media wants to portray.

i like comparing white to edwards for a couple reasons:
1. he throws better than white
2. he might not be as fast at white but he runs north/south more which is overall better for the nfl


comparing edwards to flacco is stupid. that 07 game flacco was going up against the app defense not AE. also they are in two very different offenses.

i dont believe the wildcat is going away, at least not for awhile and AE will be one of the best wildcat qb's in the 2010 draft. of course nfl's view of him will mostly depend on the performance pat white puts on this year.

[ElonPride]

Four players come to my mind:

Eric Ward
Armanti Edwards
Terrell Hudgins
Andre Roberts

[ASU_MBA]

Dude, you have lost it.

Lott will not even get a look at QB and cadet could be starting over pressley next year. AL brown is not even close to Miami Central, I don't care how good the numbers are, at QB you have to be able to pass. Lott cannot pass.

Smart Man....this was weeks ago...

[jus10asu]

Smart Man....this was weeks ago...

I second that...I have much respect for DP but Cadet may have stolen the job after this Saturday.

[ericsaid]

Travaris Cadet next year and AE this year.

TC is so explosive and ECU could not take him down at all.

[SuperJon]

Never saw this thread but I'd just like to point out that Mike Brown had 11 catches for 157 yards and a touchdown, a rushing touchdown, and 107 yards on three kick returns.

Against West Virginia.

[jmufan999]

With football season right around the corner I was wondering two things:

1) Who do you think is the best FCS player this year?


2) Who do you think will be the best FCS player next year?

I have a feeling that a lot of people will put AE for this year and wanted to make it more interesting so I added future stars to the discussion.

you guys realize no one has EVER won the WP award twice, right? a list that includes McNair, Westbrook, and the other A. Peterson...

not saying he WON'T, but the odds are against him. if it's close, they'll give it to someone else. they do the same thing with the Heisman.

doesn't have to be fair, just the way it is.

[Big Dawg]

FAMU QB Curtis Pulley threw went 12-19 for 140 yards and rushed for 196 yards, last night.

[bjtheflamesfan]

I got a name for you guys...Mike Brown. Yesterday against WVU he caught 11 passes for 157 yards and a TD, added another TD rushing and had three KO returns for 107 yards. oh and he is also the backup QB too (didnt attempt a pass yesterday but that is because he was all over the field in the other areas)

[Skjellyfetti]

you guys realize no one has EVER won the WP award twice, right? a list that includes McNair, Westbrook, and the other A. Peterson...

not saying he WON'T, but the odds are against him. if it's close, they'll give it to someone else. they do the same thing with the Heisman.

doesn't have to be fair, just the way it is.

Well, to be fair... Brian Westbrook and Adrian Peterson were playing at the same time... and won the awards over each other. 2001 probably had the best field for the Payton ever. Tony Romo, Westbrook, Peterson.

[appfan2008]

AE is the best player this year... next will be anyones guess...

[DX Man]

This year it is Armanti Edwardsxthumbsupx

Next year it will be Travaris Cadetxpeacex