I-AA WAVES TONIGHT (12/6)

[ASU Kep]

What's up with I-AA Waves tonight? Usually ralph has got the thread running by now so I thought I'd just steal his thunder. WAVES tis be a great escape from studying for an American history final. Who's on? What's the question? WHERE'S ralph? Who the f--k is Richard Hakluyt and what is his contribution to early American society? :D

[ASU Kep]

Cheevy, you around ol pal?

[TexasTerror]

Ralph recovering from Cap'N Cat?

[blukeys]

What's up with I-AA Waves tonight? Usually ralph has got the thread running by now so I thought I'd just steal his thunder. WAVES tis be a great escape from studying for an American history final. Who's on? What's the question? WHERE'S ralph? Who the f--k is Richard Hakluyt and what is his contribution to early American society? :D


Pretty important guy in early American History

Hakluyt, «HAK loot», Richard (1552?-1616), was an English geographer, editor, and clergyman. In 1589, he published The Principall Navigations, Voiages, and Discoveries of the English Nation, consisting of eyewitness accounts and other records of more than 200 voyages. These stories stirred up interest in navigation and colonization. He later helped organize the settling of the Virginia Colony.

Hakluyt was born in Herefordshire. He graduated from Oxford University and took holy orders. He was an eager collector of documents of travel and trade. A work on American discoveries, published in 1582, led to his appointment as chaplain to the English ambassador to France. He later served as archdeacon of Westminster Abbey. He also translated the Spanish explorer Hernando de Soto's description of his travels.

You won't find him in a high school course but he is fair game in college

[ASU Kep]

Pretty important guy in early American History

Hakluyt, «HAK loot», Richard (1552?-1616), was an English geographer, editor, and clergyman. In 1589, he published The Principall Navigations, Voiages, and Discoveries of the English Nation, consisting of eyewitness accounts and other records of more than 200 voyages. These stories stirred up interest in navigation and colonization. He later helped organize the settling of the Virginia Colony.

Hakluyt was born in Herefordshire. He graduated from Oxford University and took holy orders. He was an eager collector of documents of travel and trade. A work on American discoveries, published in 1582, led to his appointment as chaplain to the English ambassador to France. He later served as archdeacon of Westminster Abbey. He also translated the Spanish explorer Hernando de Soto's description of his travels.


You won't find him in a high school course but he is fair game in college

Muchas gracias. This stuff is pretty tedious...according to what I have, he wrote Discourses in 1584 which made England want to colonize the good ol U.S. of A. xlolx

but ralph remains nowhere to be found?

[Cap'n Cat]

Ralph recovering from Cap'N Cat?



He's still hung over from the ride - there and back!!

I should take pics of my back seat where he was sitting.

Just talked to him, BTW, and there is going to be a show tonight.

:rotateh:

[*****]

Features include David Coulson (I-AA.org), Matt Dougherty (Sports Network), road ralph.
Interviews: I-AA Weekly All-Stars Jeremy Castillo and Craig Turner; David Ball, Mark Farley, Kevin Stenserud, John Herman, Sean McDonnell.

Call-in Question at 9 p.m. CST: Who's been the best player these playoffs?
847-675-5180

Listen at 8 p.m. CST:
http://www.i-aa.org/article.asp?articleid=72957

[JMU Duke Dog]

Ralph is now well enough to post! :hurray: Cap'n Cat you need to take it easier on him on your next road trip together! xlolx

[*****]

Okay, here we goooooooooooooooooo :hurray:

[TexasTerror]

I'm listening....

Anyone else listening?

[TexasTerror]

Don't tell me Cap'N Cat is fixing to get his own segment!

[MR. CHICKEN]

WOW!...........REAL FANS DO SNOW STORMS TA SEE DERE I-AA PIGGY!.......DID CAP'N HAVE BOTH HANDS ON DUH WHEEL?........WE ALL KNOW WHAT HE LIKES TA DO ON LONG DRIVES!........xprost2x........BRAWK!

[TexasTerror]

Ralph does all he can for I-AA...even if it's going to an A10 venue!

[*****]

Ralph does all he can for I-AA...even if it's going to an A10 venue!Hey! I saw six A-10 teams last year and went to Northeastern and Delaware.

[MR. CHICKEN]

HEY RALPH.....BRING BACK ANY MAPLE SYRUP??.........:p..........AWK!

[TexasTerror]

Hey! I saw six A-10 teams last year and went to Northeastern and Delaware.


That's what I mean. You put up with those A10 fellas...

They don't have the southern hospitality of the SLC! :)

[MR. CHICKEN]

NORFERN IOWA LADS.....SHUDDA BROUGHT YER OWN GROCERIES!:rolleyes:..AWK!

[Isaac23]

where are these pics of the New Hamy tailgate?

[*****]

HEY RALPH.....BRING BACK ANY MAPLE SYRUP??.........:p..........AWK!Ya know, I didn't!

[MR. CHICKEN]

PROBABLY SENT 'EM TA "HUSTLER"......................BRAWK!

[ASU Kep]

You can find em on I-AA.org in the road ralph segment.

[*****]

where are these pics of the New Hamy tailgate?See the front page of www.i-aa.org

[Isaac23]

thanks guys

[ASU Kep]

Anybody feel free to go to the AGS loungue while listening and try to explain WTF just happened to me at the gas station.

[MR. CHICKEN]

where are these pics of the New Hamy tailgate?

PROBABLY SENT 'EM TA......"HUSTLER"!.................BRAWK!

[MR. CHICKEN]

OUR A-10 'CATS...........CONTROLLED DUH STATS...BUT THREW UP HAIRBALLS IN DUH RED ZONE!.................BRAWK!...........DEFENSE HELD DUH PURPLE FURRIES TA 24.....GAVE UP 3 QUICKIES..................SHUT 'EM OUT FO' DUH LONGEST TIME...B/FO' DUH FG!......................BAWK!

[MR. CHICKEN]

Anybody feel free to go to the AGS loungue while listening and try to explain WTF just happened to me at the gas station.

NO MECHANIC........BUT AH'M GOIN' WHIFF...VAPOR LOCK!.....:twocents:...AWK!

[*****]

Is Matt a UNI guy now?

[ASU Kep]

NO MECHANIC........BUT AH'M GOIN' WHIFF...VAPOR LOCK!.....:twocents:...AWK!

Mr. Chicken, I'm a big fan, but WTF did you just say?

[ASU Kep]

Is Matt a UNI guy now?

Last I checked he predicted App to go all the way, though he does seem to be kissing UNI's ass on a level I havn't seen since your show after GSU/Furman.

[*****]

"UNI made every play," Matt said.

[AppGuy04]

atta boy Ralph, talk up the Appies

[MR. CHICKEN]

VAPOR LOCK.............GAS FUMES.....GAVE YER GUAGE UH FALSE READIN'.....DAT'S WHAT AH'M TALKIN' 'BOUT.............JES' UH SUPER CRAZY...WILD GUESS!.....AH REPEAT....AIN'T NO MECHANIC!...................DOODLE-DOO!

OR

MAYBEAH YER FLOAT WAS STUCK!................AWK!

OR

MAYBEAH YA'LL PUT..............SNAPPLE IN YER TANK!........SQWAK!

[ASU Kep]

VAPOR LOCK.............GAS FUMES.....GAVE YER GUAGE UH FALSE READIN'.....DAT'S WHAT AH'M TALKIN' 'BOUT.............JES' UH SUPER CRAZY...WILD GUESS!.....AH REPEAT....AIN'T NO MECHANIC!...................DOODLE-DOO!

So what you saying is that my tank is NOT completely full?
Brawk once if yes.

Then why would the gas come flowing out?

[TexasTerror]

Ralph is singing!

[ASU Kep]

"I played with my uh...um..."

[AppGuy04]

Ralph is singing!

scary :eek:

[MR. CHICKEN]

MATT....MAYBEAH ONE O' DUH SOPRANOS.....CRUNCHED INTA YER DOOR.....MIGHT WANNA DROP IT LAD.......MIGHT WANNA DROP IT!.............AWK!

[ASU Kep]

Fughetboutit.

[MR. CHICKEN]

MARK FARLEY..."WELL GOLL-EEEE.........CUDDA BEEN UNH OR UNI"........BAWK!

[*****]

scary :eek:I used to be a lead singer.

[MR. CHICKEN]

KRAUTWURST......DOES VOCALS????..................BAWK!

[AppGuy04]

I used to be a lead singer.

did you record that for COPS? :confused:

[Granite]

Classy comments by Coach Farley. Interesting insight into how UNI tried to handle Ball. I was surprised that Ball had it as easy as it appeared that he did against the UNI defense.

[MR. CHICKEN]

Classy comments by Coach Farley. Interesting insight into how UNI tried to handle Ball. I was surprised that Ball had it as easy as it appeared that he did against the UNI defense.

HOPE KEELER GOT DAT......WE MIGHT WANNA TRY IT...NEXT SEASON ON TUBBY FIELD......:)......BRAWK!

[*****]

Call-in time

847-675-5180

[MR. CHICKEN]

DIS DUFUSS.IS GOIN' WHIFF...NEALY!.............OR MAYBEAH IT WILL BE RICHIE!.....OR INGLE...........OR........SANDERS!................ ....BAWK!

[MR. CHICKEN]

FURMAN...HOMER!................................... ..........AWK!

[MR. CHICKEN]

UH-OH....MOUSEKETEER..HOMER!..........SQWAK!

[MR. CHICKEN]

SOGONE....YADDA...YADDA....YADDA.................E R..UM....UH....AWK!

[MR. CHICKEN]

HOW 'BOUT UH HINT...ON NAME DAT TUNE?...BAWK!

[MR. CHICKEN]

ATTAH BOY...MOUSEKETEER!............NEALY!.......FINALLY ....UH POSTER WHIFF OUT TUNNELL VISION!........xsmoochx.........SQWAK!

[ASU Kep]

UH-OH....MOUSEKETEER..HOMER!..........SQWAK!

Yah, I shoulda said my name was something else before I proceeded to kiss ASU's ass.

[MR. CHICKEN]

NOBODY...CARES...........'BOUT DAT...SANDERS DUDE!..............BAWK!

[ASU Kep]

That was AppGuy04, right?

[AppGuy04]

Yah, I shoulda said my name was something else before I proceeded to kiss ASU's ass.

haha, you stole my thunder so I had to go with Nealy

[AppGuy04]

That was AppGuy04, right?

yeah, that was me, sounded like u could barely hear me

[ASU Kep]

Bah, when I said Gateway I meant to say Southland...oops.

[MR. CHICKEN]

haha, you stole my thunder so I had to go with Nealy

SONNY RICCIO..CUDDA USED SOME PROPS!................DOODLE-DOO!

[AppGuy04]

if 1500 people are listening, where are they?

[*****]

Ingle
Richie
Barrick
...

[MR. CHICKEN]

Bah, when I said Gateway I meant to say Southland...oops.

DAT OK.....AH ONCE SAID GATEWAY....WHEN AH MEANT.......NO WAY!....ERK-UH-ERK-UH-ROOOOO! xprost2x

[ASU Kep]

if 1500 people are listening, where are they?

I dunno, 1500's a lotta people though. Impressive, ralph.

[AppGuy04]

Ingle
Richie
Barrick
...

sorry for the NFL analogy Ralph :o

[Reed Rothchild]

MARK FARLEY..."WELL GOLL-EEEE.........CUDDA BEEN UNH OR UNI"........BAWK!

He also likes to say "Eastren Warshington"

[ASU Kep]

Hey cheevy, just admit your here.

[MR. CHICKEN]

MULHERN...WOOD PULL JEREMY'S UPPER LIP..OVERAH...HIS FOREHEAD!.......xlolx......AWK!

[MR. CHICKEN]

if 1500 people are listening, where are they?


NOBODY...DOIN' DERE X-MAS SHOPPIN'...LA NOCHE?.....:)......AFLAC!

[ASU Kep]

Yah, that return actually did scare me. Not for long, though.

[AppGuy04]

Yah, that return actually did scare me. Not for long, though.

well, LC killed us on kickoffs, and SIU tried to use the same strategy

[ASU Kep]

Yah, I have a feeling if Furman can do the same to us it might spell trouble.

[AppGuy04]

did I miss Coulson?

[MR. CHICKEN]

RELAX...KEPPER.........YA'LL ARE IN..........AWK!

[AppGuy04]

:hyped: YAY Mr. C rules!!! :hyped:

[ASU Kep]

RELAX...KEPPER.........YA'LL ARE IN..........AWK!

Oh, believe me, I'm happy. Just lookin ahead' :D .

[MR. CHICKEN]

did I miss Coulson?

UNFORTUNATELY...NO!...................SQWAK!

[MR. CHICKEN]

WHO WOULD NAME UH KID...ARKEE???.........WHAT'S UP WHIFF DUH CORN BELT?......BAWK!

[Tribe4SF]

Coulson is on target with the GSU situation. He's the only writer with the guts to call it like it is.

[AppGuy04]

Coulson is on target with the GSU situation. He's the only writer with the guts to call it like it is.

if he was making this all up, he wouldn't come on this show and explain himself

not that he needs to in the first place

"THE TRUTH HURTS BABY"

[*****]

Coulson talking about his GaSU article now....

[Tribe4SF]

WHO WOULD NAME UH KID...ARKEE???.........WHAT'S UP WHIFF DUH CORN BELT?......BAWK!

You've got some nerve, poultry pardner. I understand your eldest is named AWKEE! :cool:

[dungeonjoe]

support WHAT he said, don't agree with the language and the tone

[dungeonjoe]

we all need to be held accountable... his style has not been this way since I have started reading him. This piece seems out of character for what I expect from Coulson

[Tribe4SF]

Good job of holding Coulson accountable, Ralph. He's making himself clear about everything. Not hiding the personal tie he has to Sewak.

[AppGuy04]

who would want that job? :confused:

[dungeonjoe]

it will be difficult to cover the SoCon without GSU access.

[dungeonjoe]

Ralph, knowledge is not the issue... tone and language are

[Tribe4SF]

If Baker denies him access, it could be his first riff with his new coach.

[dungeonjoe]

first to call Sam a liar...

[ASU Kep]

Ralph, knowledge is not the issue... tone and language are

He already addressed that though.

[dungeonjoe]

If Baker denies him access, it could be his first riff with his new coach.


Baker won't have to do it-- it will be done by the community

[MR. CHICKEN]

TONE?...UH COACHIN' STAFF LOST DERE JOBS.........DAT DID NOT DESERVE TA BE UN-EMPLOYED!........................................B AWK!

[*****]

it will be difficult to cover the SoCon without GSU access.Tell me how GaSU could deny access to Coulson. That would be a first and precedent has already been set that it doesn't happen.

[dungeonjoe]

He already addressed that though.
Yes, by saying he has a right to do it and "look at the record."
Columnists should give opinions not hatchet pieces with inflammatory langauge

[dungeonjoe]

Tell me how GaSU could deny access to Coulson. That would be a first and precedent has already been set that it doesn't happen.

players, coaches choosing not to talk to him.

[*****]

Yes, by saying he has a right to do it and "look at the record."
Columnists should give opinions not hatchet pieces with inflammatory langaugeExplain why you think it is a hatchet piece after hearing the explanation.

[ASU Kep]

You think the players at GSU are pissed at him? Baker fired their coach after leading them to a pretty successful season.

[ASU Kep]

Voodoo of the Rock...nice!

[dungeonjoe]

Explain why you think it is a hatchet piece after hearing the explanation.

"liar" is inflammatory period He could have made his point with other language. He has made his column the issue and not the situation.

[ASU Kep]

Yes, he could have said "Sam Baker, who often times says something and then does the opposite" but why not just say liar?

[dungeonjoe]

when has Coulson picked someone other than APP this season?

[ASU Kep]

LSU, I hope.

[dungeonjoe]

Yes, he could have said "Sam Baker, who often times says something and then does the opposite" but why not just say liar?


document it and let the reader decide

[*****]

when has Coulson picked someone other than APP this season?Axe to grind? Matt already said App was the top pick.

[Tribe4SF]

Yes, by saying he has a right to do it and "look at the record."
Columnists should give opinions not hatchet pieces with inflammatory langauge

If your opinion is that a man lied, does it make it better if you say he was untruthful?

If your opinion is that a man is underhanded in his dealings, does it make it better if you say his actions are odorous?

Coulson expressed his opinion.

[dungeonjoe]

If your opinion is that a man lied, does it make it better if you say he was untruthful?

If your opinion is that a man is underhanded in his dealings, does it make it better if you say his actions are odorous?

Coulson expressed his opinion.
indeed he did and now his opinion is making more news than the firing.

[*****]

document it and let the reader decideDo you mean sugarcoat?

[dungeonjoe]

If your opinion is that a man lied, does it make it better if you say he was untruthful?

If your opinion is that a man is underhanded in his dealings, does it make it better if you say his actions are odorous?

Coulson expressed his opinion.


his personal feelings for Sewak may have clouded it.

[dungeonjoe]

Do you mean sugarcoat?
when are the facts sugarcoating?

[Tod]

indeed he did and now his opinion is making more news than the firing.

I doubt he intended for that to happen. He probably knew he was ruffling some feathers, but I doubt he thought it would go this far.

[dungeonjoe]

when are the facts sugarcoating?

why put FU and TSU in it he said APP and UNI, don't sugar it! :)

[Tribe4SF]

his personal feelings for Sewak may have clouded it.

He admits that. Doesn't change the accuracy of his opinion from my view.

[dungeonjoe]

he'll be where he has been all season :rolleyes:

[dungeonjoe]

Axe to grind? Matt already said App was the top pick.

all season??? Matt picked them all season??

[rokamortis]

when are the facts sugarcoating?

Reverend Joe is the MAN!!! I agree 100%.

We all have opinions of the situation and we all are allowed to have the opinions, but what Coulson wrote wasn't prudent. He is certainly allowed to air his opinion, but when you write something that personally attacks someone you are opening yourself up to criticism.

[dungeonjoe]

If your opinion is that a man lied, does it make it better if you say he was untruthful?

If your opinion is that a man is underhanded in his dealings, does it make it better if you say his actions are odorous?

Coulson expressed his opinion.

I always thought the story was the thing... it seems that is not the thing here

[MR. CHICKEN]

BAKER...NEEDED TA BE CALLED OUT!..................AN' WAS CALLED OUT!.....AWK!

[rokamortis]

Coulson expressed his opinion.

Yep ... but some of us didn't like how he expressed it.
Now we are expressing ours. The difference is we are nobody and he is a respected I-AA journalist.

[dungeonjoe]

BAKER...NEEDED TA BE CALLED OUT!..................AN' WAS CALLED OUT!.....AWK!


under what circumstances would Coulson be called out

[Tribe4SF]

I always thought the story was the thing... it seems that is not the thing here

If you're a reporter, the story and facts are the only focus. A columnist is expressing opinion.

[MR. CHICKEN]

GSU'ers...PLEADED DUH FIFTH!...............DIDN'T REBUT......CLOSED!.....BRAWK!

[dungeonjoe]

glad to hear you tried to get balanced opinions/counterpoints

[ASU Kep]

It's gametime, cheevy! Bring it!

[ASU Kep]

I have a feeling ralph's got some REALLY out there this week, though.

[MR. CHICKEN]

under what circumstances would Coulson be called out

WHAT?....READ MAH POST!..........WHO IS CALLIN' COULSON OUT!...STAY OUTTA DUH COOKIN' SHERRY..........DJ!.........BAWK!

[Tribe4SF]

under what circumstances would Coulson be called out

He was called out here tonight. And he responded.

[dungeonjoe]

If you're a reporter, the story and facts are the only focus. A columnist is expressing opinion.

and if the opinion is faulty...

[Tod]

and if the opinion is faulty...

Opinions can't be faulty.

[Tribe4SF]

and if the opinion is faulty...

How is his opinion faulty? I've only heard objection to his language, not the substance of his opinion.

[dungeonjoe]

He was called out here tonight. And he responded.

he answered, with some attempts at follow up by Ralph, and his reasons were that he has a constitutional right to do so. who am I to argue with the constitution?

[ASU Kep]

Um...ralph?

[ASU Kep]

The Who - Happy Jack.

[dungeonjoe]

Opinions can't be faulty.

yes they can if the focus is misplaced and the coumnist upstages the story.

same thing happened when he said guy from CCU need to go to hospital (or something like that) cause he though CCU would beat JMU

[ASU Kep]

booya! Kep's back! :hurray: :hyped:

[*****]

all season??? Matt picked them all season??I guess when you're right you're right. He picked Furman last year.

[dungeonjoe]

How is his opinion faulty? I've only heard objection to his language, not the substance of his opinion.


It jsu seesm unethical to call someone swine, I think it is considered libel or slander in some circles.

[Cheevy]

What's the story? Is the show over?

[*****]

yes they can if the focus is misplaced and the coumnist upstages the story.

same thing happened when he said guy from CCU need to go to hospital (or something like that) cause he though CCU would beat JMUDavid Coulson never said that. Seperate stuff there DJ.

[Tribe4SF]

poor writing, sloppy editing

I agree, the piece won't win a Pulitzer. But he was right on in nailing the situation for what it is.

[dungeonjoe]

I guess when you're right you're right. He picked Furman last year.

and how close did App get last year?

[ASU Kep]

booya! Kep's back! :hurray: :hyped:

Yup. Show's over. I win xlolx

[rokamortis]

David Coulson never said that. Seperate stuff there DJ.

Are you talking about the CCU piece? if so - it did appear in a column of Coulson's.

[*****]

It jsu seesm unethical to call someone swine, I think it is considered libel or slander in some circles.What circles? Not in the USA in opinion pieces. Crikeys! Axe to grind?

[dungeonjoe]

David Coulson never said that. Seperate stuff there DJ.

I'll admit if I am wrong about that, but I thought I remember reading it in the hullabaloo earlier this year

[*****]

Are you talking about the CCU piece? if so - it did appear in a column of Coulson's.Oops, you're right. :o

Display the quote you thought was libel from that piece.

[Tribe4SF]

It jsu seesm unethical to call someone swine, I think it is considered libel or slander in some circles.

Calling someone swine may be in poor taste, but it's not unethical. Now firing someone without warning or cause....that's unethical! :asswhip:

[rokamortis]

Just in case anyone is interested. Here are a couple of snippets from the NY Times Journalism Ethics handbook - specifically how to deal with opinions and opinion pieces.


66. Staff members may appear from time to time on radio and
television programs devoted to public affairs, but they should
avoid expressing views that go beyond what they would be
allowed to say in the paper. Op-Ed columnists and editorial
writers enjoy more leeway than others in speaking publicly
because their business is expressing opinions. The Times
nevertheless expects them to consider carefully the forums in
which they appear and to protect the standards and impartiality
of the newspaper as a whole.


102. In deciding whether to make a radio, television or Internet
appearance, a staff member should consider its probable tone
and content to make sure they are consistent with Times
standards. Staff members should avoid strident, theatrical forums
that emphasize punditry and reckless opinion-mongering.
Instead, we should offer thoughtful and retrospective analysis.
Generally a staff member should not say anything on radio,
television or the Internet that could not appear under his or
her byline in The Times.

[dungeonjoe]

What circles? Not in the USA in opinion pieces. Crikeys! Axe to grind?

really?? I guess the US judicial system can wipe all those pesky laws off the books now :)

[Cheevy]

Happy Jack? The Hummvee song? He played the Who 2 weeks ago.

[*****]

The Who - Happy Jack.DING DING! A Winner! Actually that was the previously unreleased acoustic version but I'll let you slide. :nod:

[rokamortis]

Oops, you're right. :o

Display the quote you thought was libel from that piece.


The excitement of the JMU game has gone a little bit to the heads of the Chanticleer nation, with some folks actually anticipating an upset of the dominating Dukes.

One radio guy at the Big South media day told me: “James Madison won’t be used to playing in the heat we get in South Carolina. If we can keep the game close, we might be able to wear them down in the fourth quarter.”

Fortunately, this guy wasn’t committed to the nearest psychiatric hospital after that event. Wearing down the team that epitomized wearing down opponents last season?


Actually kind of funny in retrospect.

[*****]

Just in case anyone is interested. Here are a couple of snippets from the NY Times Journalism Ethics handbook - specifically how to deal with opinions and opinion pieces.Hmmmm... nothing about I-AA in the NYT, that bastion of ethics.... xlolx xlolx xlolx

[ASU Kep]

DING DING! A Winner! Actually that was the previously unreleased acoustic version but I'll let you slide. :nod:

Awesome! And you know ralph, it's been over a month since the first time I won... :D

[*****]

Actually kind of funny in retrospect.Not funny to JMU fans who saw their team get beat in the waning moments by a miraculous catch...

[Tribe4SF]

really?? I guess the US judicial system can wipe all those pesky laws off the books now :)

Expressing opinions of public figures actions is not slanderous. Making false statements with intent to harm is what the law protects us from. When you sue for slander, you have to show that the person made false statements, and knew they were false. Baker can always sue if he wants.

[dungeonjoe]

Oops, you're right. :o

Display the quote you thought was libel from that piece.


Ralph, we are talking in circles here. I am not going to convince you and I doubt you will convince me. I try to be fairly levelheaded about most things, and I'll admit when I am wrong. Coulson had every right to write what he wrote. I agree with him on what he said; my problem is with how he said it.

I guess I look at I-AA kind of special. Tha there are standards that Coulson has kept pretty much in his tone all season. This time because of deadlines or personal feelings or whatever, That same professional tone was not there; subsequently, the column replaced the firing.

[rokamortis]

Not funny to JMU fans who saw their team get beat in the waning moments by a miraculous catch...

A lot of things went right for us that game - but all that matters is the final score. We won and many experts predicted we didn't have a chance. Even the I-AA.org magazine said we couldn't even come close at 10-1 again in 2005. And true we didn't get 10-1 but we got a lot closer than not.

[dungeonjoe]

to continue, I respect Coulson and what he has done for I-AA. I just don't want to see I-AA.org become less like The Sporting News and more like The National Inquirer.

I know you don't suffer fools well, especially those who disagree with you; thanks for suffering me tonight

[Chi Panther]

WHO WOULD NAME UH KID...ARKEE???.........WHAT'S UP WHIFF DUH CORN BELT?......BAWK!


LOL.....soo funny that you bring that up everytime.....completely agree with you.

Arkee is my favorite Non-UNI Panther :bow:

[Tribe4SF]

Ralph, we are talking in circles here. I am not going to convince you and I doubt you will convince me. I try to be fairly levelheaded about most things, and I'll admit when I am wrong. Coulson had every right to write what he wrote. I agree with him on what he said; my problem is with how he said it.

I guess I look at I-AA kind of special. Tha there are standards that Coulson has kept pretty much in his tone all season. This time because of deadlines or personal feelings or whatever, That same professional tone was not there; subsequently, the column replaced the firing.

Appreciate your position, DJ. I really admire Coulson for expressing his opinion, and have tried to defend what I think was a courageous act. Dave probably wishes he'd used a little less strident tone, but I'm glad he did it. Too often these kinds of actions only get addressed in messageboard posts, and not in the media where the sun shines much brighter.

[blukeys]

Expressing opinions of public figures actions is not slanderous. Making false statements with intent to harm is what the law protects us from. When you sue for slander, you have to show that the person made false statements, and knew they were false. Baker can always sue if he wants.


Actually when writing on public figures Journalists have even a wider latitude than the principle you have stated above. To successfully sue for libel a public figure must prove:

1. The statements were false.
2. The writer knew they were false or acted in such a way that he should have known they were false.
3. The writer acted with Malicous intent.

When reporting on a private individual a suit can be won by proving only the first two.

For a public figure such as Baker all three of the above conditions must be met.

Baker can sue but it is rare for public figures to win. The standard is so high that most choose not to waste their time in court.

[Tribe4SF]

to continue, I respect Coulson and what he has done for I-AA. I just don't want to see I-AA.org become less like The Sporting News and more like The National Inquirer.

I know you don't suffer fools well, especially those who disagree with you; thanks for suffering me tonight

Anyone who hangs around here knows you're no fool. Peace....and out.

[dungeonjoe]

Appreciate your position, DJ. I really admire Coulson for expressing his opinion, and have tried to defend what I think was a courageous act. Dave probably wishes he'd used a little less strident tone, but I'm glad he did it. Too often these kinds of actions only get addressed in messageboard posts, and not in the media where the sun shines much brighter.

we'll disagree on that, but that's life isn't it? I hope most of those who have had no opinion on this thus far believe as you do, and not as I do.

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... I agree with him on what he said; my problem is with how he said it...Yeah, I agree that is the issue with a bunch of folk. I would not have said it like that but I am not a columnist who is expected to say things that convey the way they feel.

It's over in my opinion. The playoffs are more important right now.

[dungeonjoe]

Actually when writing on public figures Journalists have even a wider latitude than the principle you have stated above. To successfully sue for libel a public figure must prove:

1. The statements were false.
2. The writer knew they were false or acted in such a way that he should have known they were false.
3. The writer acted with Malicous intent.

When reporting on a private individual a suit can be won by proving only the first two.

For a public figure such as Baker all three of the above conditions must be met.

Baker can sue but it is rare for public figures to win. The standard is so high that most choose not to waste their time in court.

I knew they grew the swine big in south Georgia, but come on... :)

I think he could prove he is not a pig. :)

[dungeonjoe]

Yeah, I agree that is the issue with a bunch of folk. I would not have said it like that but I am not a columnist who is expected to say things that convey the way they feel.

It's over in my opinion. The playoffs are more important right now.


Now there is something we agree on :)

[Tribe4SF]

I knew they grew the swine big in south Georgia, but come on... :)

I think he could prove he is not a pig. :)

If beauty is in the eye of the beholder, then so may be a pig. :smiley_wi

[dungeonjoe]

If beauty is in the eye of the beholder, then so may be a pig. :smiley_wi

good point :hurray:

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