MLB Trade Deadline Watch

[bluehenbillk]

Might as well start this now. The Jays announce yesterday that Halladay is a trade possibility. For the sake of easing discussion you can forget him going to the Red Sox or Yankees regardless of what they offer. Phillies? Cubs? Angels??

[89Hen]

Phillies? Cubs?
Does batting enter into the equation for an AL pitcher? Meaning would he want to bat. His no-trade clause gives him the say.

[UNHWildCats]

Some of the sports writers are saying they would trade him to an AL East team and with Halladay having a no trade clause that he will have to waive, he could force there hand and make them trade him to NY or Boston if thats where he wants to go.

[kardplayer]

The "pain" of having to bat will be more than offset by getting to face the pitcher on the other side.

[89Hen]

Some of the sports writers are saying they would trade him to an AL East team
Why would they do that?? xconfusedx

[kardplayer]

Some of the sports writers are saying they would trade him to an AL East team and with Halladay having a no trade clause that he will have to waive, he could force there hand and make them trade him to NY or Boston if thats where he wants to go.

I agree that they're not adverse to trading him in the East - especially since they are essentially saying they are not going to try and compete this year or next. By then, he'd be a free agent anyway.

Doubtful either team would give up what the Jays are going to ask for - 3 prospects from what I heard.

[UNHWildCats]

Why would they do that?? xconfusedx
cause if NY and Boston are going against each other it increases the return for Toronto more then any place else.

[UNHWildCats]

I agree that they're not adverse to trading him in the East - especially since they are essentially saying they are not going to try and compete this year or next. By then, he'd be a free agent anyway.

Doubtful either team would give up what the Jays are going to ask for - 3 prospects from what I heard.
ya and deal will start with Phil hughes and Clay Buchholz.... And will have to include atleast 1 more top prospect from each (Lars Anderson from Boston would likely be demanded) because Halladay will get atleast 2 high draft picks for the enw team because he will be a type A free agent after 2010.

Not sure either team would give up so much unless they got the trade done early with a window to extend his contract....

[bluehenbillk]

Cmon guys I started out with the disclaimer, don't be nonsensical, the Jays will NOT trade Halladay to New York or Boston, period.

[GannonFan]

Cmon guys I started out with the disclaimer, don't be nonsensical, the Jays will NOT trade Halladay to New York or Boston, period.

Agreed, there's no amount of prospects that will see them trade Halladay in the division to two teams who would be very well placed to be able to easily afford paying him after his contract runs out next year. No way does Toronto want to face Halladay upwards of 6 times a year, and have an in-division team benefit from him for the rest of the season, for what could be the rest of his career. I'd be shocked if he got traded to an AL team period, let alone NYY or Bos. Never will happen.

[UNHWildCats]

Agreed, there's no amount of prospects that will see them trade Halladay in the division to two teams who would be very well placed to be able to easily afford paying him after his contract runs out next year. No way does Toronto want to face Halladay upwards of 6 times a year, and have an in-division team benefit from him for the rest of the season, for what could be the rest of his career. I'd be shocked if he got traded to an AL team period, let alone NYY or Bos. Never will happen.
Why... He very well could end up there after 2010 anyway, so if either team is willing to give you the best package why not accept...

If you were the GM of Toronto and say Boston offered you Lars Anderson, Clay Buchholz, Michael Bowden and another prospect would you turn it down?

Now Boston isn't going to offer that package, but if they did, you would be foolish to not take it.

Is it likely they would trade him to Boston or NY? No, but it isn't totally out of the question.

[bluehenbillk]

Why... He very well could end up there after 2010 anyway, so if either team is willing to give you the best package why not accept...

If you were the GM of Toronto and say Boston offered you Lars Anderson, Clay Buchholz, Michael Bowden and another prospect would you turn it down?

Now Boston isn't going to offer that package, but if they did, you would be foolish to not take it.

Is it likely they would trade him to Boston or NY? No, but it isn't totally out of the question.


Yes they'll turn it down. PR suicide to trade him in the division, repeat PR suicide.

[NHwildEcat]

Yes they'll turn it down. PR suicide to trade him in the division, repeat PR suicide.

Correct. If they were to trade him in the division that would really be sticking it to their fan base. PLUS, they are only 7 games behing the Sox and 6 behind the Yanks. I don't see them moving him at all...he will still be with them come August 1st. Maybe in the offseason or next year's deadline, but not this month...

[gmoney55]

Agreed, there's no amount of prospects that will see them trade Halladay in the division to two teams who would be very well placed to be able to easily afford paying him after his contract runs out next year. No way does Toronto want to face Halladay upwards of 6 times a year, and have an in-division team benefit from him for the rest of the season, for what could be the rest of his career. I'd be shocked if he got traded to an AL team period, let alone NYY or Bos. Never will happen.

Don't forget the Jays traded Clemens to the Yankees, I could see it happening. And like it was mentioned here earlier Halladay might end up there anyway. If the Yankees offer say Joba and Hughes that would be tough to turn down.

[gmoney55]

Correct. If they were to trade him in the division that would really be sticking it to their fan base. PLUS, they are only 7 games behing the Sox and 6 behind the Yanks. I don't see them moving him at all...he will still be with them come August 1st. Maybe in the offseason or next year's deadline, but not this month...

Maybe, but this month is going to be when you get the most on your return. The closer you get to free agency the less you are going to be getting back. Case in point, look at the haul Texas grabbed from Atlanta in the Teixeria trade, and then how much less Atlanta was able to get back from the Angels. Or the Twins getting less for Johan by waiting.

[NHwildEcat]

Maybe, but this month is going to be when you get the most on your return. The closer you get to free agency the less you are going to be getting back. Case in point, look at the haul Texas grabbed from Atlanta in the Teixeria trade, and then how much less Atlanta was able to get back from the Angels. Or the Twins getting less for Johan by waiting.

True. But will all the elements in play, it does not seem likely for all parties to be satisfied...Toronto should have done this a year ago..

Also, less of a chance Boston gets into it IMO, because the Yankees don't have the proper prospects in place to pull this out...at least if Toronto wants the most for their investment.

[bodoyle]

They've already been talking here about the White Sox and Kenny Williams trying to get him, or atleast being interested as long as Toronto doesn't want Gordon Beckham.

[UNHWildCats]

They've already been talking here about the White Sox and Kenny Williams trying to get him, or atleast being interested as long as Toronto doesn't want Gordon Beckham.
speaking of Beckham... he's funny. In new SI issue on The Pop Culture Grid they asked 4 athletes "I wish I could transform into...." and he answered "Megan Fox's bed." xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolx

[93henfan]

Philadelphia Inquirer's take:

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/homepage/20090708_Jim_Salisbury__Phils_should_take_a_shot_a t_getting_Halladay.html

[UNCBears2010]

Halladay wants to come home to Colorado.;)xsmiley_wix

[bodoyle]

speaking of Beckham... he's funny. In new SI issue on The Pop Culture Grid they asked 4 athletes "I wish I could transform into...." and he answered "Megan Fox's bed." xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolx

I like him even more now!

[gmoney55]

Philadelphia Inquirer's take:

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/homepage/20090708_Jim_Salisbury__Phils_should_take_a_shot_a t_getting_Halladay.html

Agree completely, to me the Phils and Dodgers are the most logical fits considering their farm systems and bank accounts and being in the NL. Phils would basically be trading Brett Myers and 3 million for Roy Halladay, anyone would take that deal.

I do think whoever makes the deal will have to include at least one player that is either a young major leaguer or at least major league ready. I'd bet they could get it done with Werth and two or maybe three of the top prospects mentioned.

[UNHWildCats]

Heres something to consider.... Would the Jays take less talent if the other team was also willing to take Vernon Wells bad contract?

The Red Sox got Josh Beckett for less because they also took Mike Lowell and his bad contract... Of course a new environment turned Lowell around and his contract was no longer a bad one.

Wells is due a ton of money over the next give years as the first two years of the deal were very low dollar. Between 2010 and 2014 Wells will earn $108.5 million, over the last four it will be at least $21 million each season. If Toronto could get a team to take him with Halladay but get much less in return, would they have to consider doing that? I would think so and a few teams such as New York could definitely afford to take such a risk

[UNHWildCats]

This really isn't trade deadline stuff but I didnt want to start a new thread for it.

The Blue Jays released BJ Ryan today while still owing him about $15 million.

This isn't good news for Julio Lugo when a lower revenue team is willing to throw away tons of money to rid themselves of someone. Boston is expected to release Lugo following the All Star break to make room for the return of Jed Lowrie.

[GannonFan]

Heres something to consider.... Would the Jays take less talent if the other team was also willing to take Vernon Wells bad contract?

The Red Sox got Josh Beckett for less because they also took Mike Lowell and his bad contract... Of course a new environment turned Lowell around and his contract was no longer a bad one.

Wells is due a ton of money over the next give years as the first two years of the deal were very low dollar. Between 2010 and 2014 Wells will earn $108.5 million, over the last four it will be at least $21 million each season. If Toronto could get a team to take him with Halladay but get much less in return, would they have to consider doing that? I would think so and a few teams such as New York could definitely afford to take such a risk


Yes, taking Vernon Wells could be a nice piece to the puzzle - if someone can swallow that contract, they wouldn't need to give up as much. Is it still enough for Toronto to risk having to face Halladay many times a year in their own division? Probably not. I imagine Toronto wants to win sometime in the next 5 years or so.

[OSBF]

Cubs are in the same bad contract boat with Soriano.

[UNHWildCats]

Yes, taking Vernon Wells could be a nice piece to the puzzle - if someone can swallow that contract, they wouldn't need to give up as much. Is it still enough for Toronto to risk having to face Halladay many times a year in their own division? Probably not. I imagine Toronto wants to win sometime in the next 5 years or so.
The Yankees have said they wont be in the Halladay mix. It's doubtful Boston would either give up the prospects needed or to be willing to take on Vernon Wells contract so while Toronto has said they wouldnt rule out trading him in division its unlikely that would happen.

Philadelphia makes the most sense... though depending who you ask they may not have the talent in the system to satisfy Toronto's asking price. It would be interesting to see if they would be willing to take on Wells contract in order to pay less in prospects.

In the end I don't think Toronto will get an offer their satisfied with and will end up keeping him.

[ISUMatt]

I like the White Sox addition of RHP Tony Pena from Arizona...the Sox are assembling a very nice bullpen

[ngineer]

Agree completely, to me the Phils and Dodgers are the most logical fits considering their farm systems and bank accounts and being in the NL. Phils would basically be trading Brett Myers and 3 million for Roy Halladay, anyone would take that deal.
I do think whoever makes the deal will have to include at least one player that is either a young major leaguer or at least major league ready. I'd bet they could get it done with Werth and two or maybe three of the top prospects mentioned.

Phils will need to offer a lot more than Myers due to his damaged goods status. Word is that the Phils would have to package some of their good young talent like Drabek, Taylor and Donald. I can live with that, but asking for Happ, too might be a bit much. However, with a 2 year contract, and the Phillies current roster with Halladay in the rotation with Hamels and Blanton, that would be solidify legitimate World Series challenges for the next two years. (of course, injuries can always alter that, but for this discussion have to be ignored).

[UNHWildCats]

Phils will need to offer a lot more than Myers due to his damaged goods status. Word is that the Phils would have to package some of their good young talent like Drabek, Taylor and Donald. I can live with that, but asking for Happ, too might be a bit much. However, with a 2 year contract, and the Phillies current roster with Halladay in the rotation with Hamels and Blanton, that would be solidify legitimate World Series challenges for the next two years. (of course, injuries can always alter that, but for this discussion have to be ignored).
With who ever aquires him getting two high draft picks when he leaves any deal will have to begin with two top prospects... we're probably talking 2 of a teams top 5 guys... and then another 2 prospects on top of that....

[gmoney55]

Phils will need to offer a lot more than Myers due to his damaged goods status. Word is that the Phils would have to package some of their good young talent like Drabek, Taylor and Donald. I can live with that, but asking for Happ, too might be a bit much. However, with a 2 year contract, and the Phillies current roster with Halladay in the rotation with Hamels and Blanton, that would be solidify legitimate World Series challenges for the next two years. (of course, injuries can always alter that, but for this discussion have to be ignored).

Sorry if I wrote that poorly, I meant that it would be the equivalent of giving up Brett Myers (by just not re-signing him) and 3 million to pick up Roy Halladay, so only adding 3 million in payroll and losing an unreliable starter. As I said, I think they would need someone like Werth or Happ who is major-league ready to go with a few prospects.

[bodoyle]

I like the White Sox addition of RHP Tony Pena from Arizona...the Sox are assembling a very nice bullpen

Thornton is downright filthy.

He throws the easiest 97 you will ever see.

[ngineer]

Sorry if I wrote that poorly, I meant that it would be the equivalent of giving up Brett Myers (by just not re-signing him) and 3 million to pick up Roy Halladay, so only adding 3 million in payroll and losing an unreliable starter. As I said, I think they would need someone like Werth or Happ who is major-league ready to go with a few prospects.

Gotcha! No question the Jays will want someone who will step right in and be a starter, plus the prospects. All depends on how much of the future the Phils want to mortgage to possibly contend for 2-3 World Series, now.

[UNHWildCats]

SI_JonHeyman (https://twitter.com/SI_JonHeyman)caller called in to suggest ryan church, oliver perez and daniel murphy for halladay. that wouldnt rent roy for a day.

[OSBF]

Heard something very interesting last night on the radio on my way home. Interview with Cardinals beat writer, he claimed the Cards GM sent his entire minor league roster to Toronto with a request to choose any 5 prospects he wanted for Halladay. Discussion broke down as Toronto was insisting that rookie OF Colby Rasmus be included with 3 prospects.

Carpenter/Wainwright/Halladay would be a pretty good front 3.

[bodoyle]

I would give Toronto Jermaine Dye, Clayton Richard, and then see what else they want. Just not Gordon Beckham!!!! xnonoxxnonoxxnonoxxnonox

[OSBF]

I would give Toronto Jermaine Dye, Clayton Richard, and then see what else they want. Just not Gordon Beckham!!!! xnonoxxnonoxxnonoxxnonox

Beckham is a stud. Gonna be real good for the Sox for a long time.

[bodoyle]

Beckham is a stud. Gonna be real good for the Sox for a long time.

As long as he stays with us.

[gmoney55]

SI_JonHeyman (https://twitter.com/SI_JonHeyman)caller called in to suggest ryan church, oliver perez and daniel murphy for halladay. that wouldnt rent roy for a day.

Come on, you have to love the desperate Mets fans! I will say if Halladay does not go at the deadline, I'd consider dangling Jose Reyes in the offseason. Toronto will need a SS with Scutaro as a FA and Reyes' contract is reasonable for the next few years.

[OSBF]

As long as he stays with us.

He doesn't have much choice for the first 7 years.

[UNHWildCats]

I would give Toronto Jermaine Dye, Clayton Richard, and then see what else they want. Just not Gordon Beckham!!!! xnonoxxnonoxxnonoxxnonox
Why exactly would Toronto want a 30 something year old OF who's contract is expiring.

I think anyone who has serious thoughts of their team getting Halladay needs to understand that Toronto is going to want a package that includes your best young player.. that means for Chicago Gordon Beckham.

[bodoyle]

Why exactly would Toronto want a 30 something year old OF who's contract is expiring.

I think anyone who has serious thoughts of their team getting Halladay needs to understand that Toronto is going to want a package that includes your best young player.. that means for Chicago Gordon Beckham.

I assume they will want apitcher to try to replace Halladay, thus Poreda a great lefty who is young. Hell they can have him and Clayton Richard. Another quality lefthanded young kid.

Sox won't deal Beckham.

[UNHWildCats]

I assume they will want apitcher to try to replace Halladay, thus Poreda a great lefty who is young. Hell they can have him and Clayton Richard. Another quality lefthanded young kid.

Sox won't deal Beckham.
And the Sox wont be getting Halladay...

[89Hen]

Hey bo, how's my guy Gavin Floyd doing this year? His uncle said he's had several good starts in a row.

[Seahawks Fan]

Don't count the Yankees out in the Halladay sweepstakes. The prospect of a Dodger - Red Sox world series might make the Yanks do something big. xnodx

[UNHWildCats]

12:33 [Comment From bobtek]
BUCCHOLZ,MASTERSON TAZAWA AND LOWRIE FOR HALLADAY AN SCUTARO.

12:34 Chad Finn: Theo wants your home address so he can come over and personally tell you "No $*$#@(((# way, BobTek."

[UNHWildCats]

Don't count the Yankees out in the Halladay sweepstakes. The prospect of a Dodger - Red Sox world series might make the Yanks do something big. xnodx
well they said they had no interest in trading for him.... Of course they also said this past winter they werent going to sign Teixeira, so listening to what they say is useless... though they held true to what they said about not trading for Santana.

[UNHWildCats]

The Royals have acquired SS Yuniesky Betancourt and cash from the Mariners for minor league pitchers Danny Cortes and Derrick Saito!

[UNHWildCats]

The Houston Astros claimed catcher Chris Coste off waivers from the Philadelphia Phillies.

[bluehenbillk]

The Houston Astros claimed catcher Chris Coste off waivers from the Philadelphia Phillies.


Must've been to make room for Ibanez coming back.

[UNHWildCats]

Must've been to make room for Ibanez coming back.
xthumbsupx

[UNHWildCats]

Mets acquire Francouer for Church.

http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/mets/archives/2009/07/church_traded_f.html

[blueballs]

Mets acquire Francouer for Church.

http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/mets/archives/2009/07/church_traded_f.html


The NY fans and media will eat Francoeur alive... good deal for the Braves though, Diaz and Church will form a potentially formidable platoon in RF.

[brownbear]

I had followed Francoeur since he was in high school at Parkview, and all the way through the minors and watched on tv when he hit a home run in his first major league game. It's too bad he never got better than he was his rookie season. Always seemed like a good guy, but it was time to unload him. The Braves need hitting, and Francoeur wasn't the answer.

I wish him luck in New York.

[Dukie95]

That was a trade of two players that had worn out their welcome in their respective towns.

I like this trade for the Mets, because they replace a platoon player for a much-needed full-time and younger player.

Braves get a lefty platoon player to go with Diaz.

I think each of them might do some good by getting a change of scenery. Seems like a win-win.

[gmoney55]

That was a trade of two players that had worn out their welcome in their respective towns.

I like this trade for the Mets, because they replace a platoon player for a much-needed full-time and younger player.

Braves get a lefty platoon player to go with Diaz.

I think each of them might do some good by getting a change of scenery. Seems like a win-win.

Agree, I like Church and hope he has success in Atlanta (well, as much success as I would wish someone in the same division). But for whatever reason he just never seemed to click with Manuel or the organization. Injuries didn't help but something was missing. I think they wanted Schneider for Milledge and never really felt that great about Church.

I love this deal for the Mets though, get the younger, faster better defensive player with more upside. Maybe he doesn't pan out, but at this point for the franchise I'd rather have the 25-year old under contract for two more full years. Nice job by Omar to shake it up a bit without touching the farm, and giving up a guy who was clearly not in the long-term plans.

[Go...gate]

There were rumors that Manuel and Church did not get along. I thought he was pretty good. I see Francoeur as a calculated risk. He has a Gold Glove and at one time a fairly potent bat but not much plate discipline. Maybe Howard Johnson can help him.

[UNHWildCats]

the A's have traded infielder Jack Hannahan to the Mariners for minor league righthander Justin Souza.

[bluehenbillk]

Don't know what to think of this but the Phillies will sign Pedro Martinez to a contract in the next 48 hours for the rest of the season.

[UNHWildCats]

Don't know what to think of this but the Phillies will sign Pedro Martinez to a contract in the next 48 hours for the rest of the season.
worst case scenerio he sucks for a few starts and the swallow the money... Best case scenerio he stays healthy and pitches as a solid #3

[93henfan]

worst case scenerio he sucks for a few starts and the swallow the money... Best case scenerio he stays healthy and pitches as a solid #3

I'll split the difference and say he's the #5 starter, replacing Lopez.

Hamels-Blanton-Happ-Moyer-Martinez.

I'd really love to insert Halladay in there though!

[ngineer]

I'll split the difference and say he's the #5 starter, replacing Lopez.

Hamels-Blanton-Happ-Moyer-Martinez.

I'd really love to insert Halladay in there though!

I think the Phils are going to try and make it happen.

[whitey]

I don't understand why you guys think Church for Francoeur was a good deal for the Mets? It's a flat out downgrade for the Mets. We just got worse and made a divisional rival better. Yes, Francoeur is younger and less injury prone but he's sucked hard since his rookie season which was 4 years ago. Church's batting average is almost better than Francoeurs ON BASE PERCENTAGE for crying out loud! Church has a better career batting average, on base percentage, slugging percentage and OPS+. Their defense is a flat out wash. Bad trade by Omar. Shocker!

This one had me scratching my head all weekend. I feel like this move was made because of Jerry Manuel's retarded favoritism tendencies and Omar Minaya's desperation to make some sort of deal. I'm not buying into the change of scenery thing but I hope it works out for both players and teams..

[gmoney55]

I'll split the difference and say he's the #5 starter, replacing Lopez.

Hamels-Blanton-Happ-Moyer-Martinez.

I'd really love to insert Halladay in there though!

It seems to me signing Martinez would mean 1) they don't get Halladay or 2) they are willing to deal Happ in a Halladay deal. I know from last year that Pedro is not a guy that can come out of the bullpen. But having a guy like that for two months with something to prove was probably a good move.

[gmoney55]

I don't understand why you guys think Church for Francoeur was a good deal for the Mets? It's a flat out downgrade for the Mets. We just got worse and made a divisional rival better. Yes, Francoeur is younger and less injury prone but he's sucked hard since his rookie season which was 4 years ago. Church's batting average is almost better than Francoeurs ON BASE PERCENTAGE for crying out loud! Church has a better career batting average, on base percentage, slugging percentage and OPS+. Their defense is a flat out wash. Bad trade by Omar. Shocker!

This one had me scratching my head all weekend. I feel like this move was made because of Jerry Manuel's retarded favoritism tendencies and Omar Minaya's desperation to make some sort of deal. I'm not buying into the change of scenery thing but I hope it works out for both players and teams..

The way I see it, Church is a mediocre, 3rd/4th outfielder with the skill set of a mediocre, 3rd/4th OF. Franceour is bad right now but is 25 with the skills to become a real good player. This year is basically over and Church never seemed to be in the long-term plans, so take the younger guy with more talent and see what happens.

[whitey]

Yeah but Francoeur already has over 2600 plate appearances (about 5 full seasons worth). Serious question: At what point do you label him a bust?

[ISUMatt]

I wouldnt include Happ in any deal let alone Halladay

[UNHWildCats]

Yeah but Francoeur already has over 2600 plate appearances (about 5 full seasons worth). Serious question: At what point do you label him a bust?
2600 isnt close to 5 full seasons worth of PA's

a 162 game season yields about 700 plate appearances. His total therefore equals a bit under 4 full seasons worth.

[whitey]

2600 isnt close to 5 full seasons worth of PA's

a 162 game season yields about 700 plate appearances. His total therefore equals a bit under 4 full seasons worth.

Not if you are Jeff Francoeur and you practically NEVER WALK. xlolx

[UNHWildCats]

Not if you are Jeff Francoeur and you practically NEVER WALK. xlolx
go to B-R and look at his full seasons... he's very close to 700 each of those years.

[whitey]

Thanks for nit-picking. Fine 4 years worth of PAs. That still doesn't change the fact that:
a) he sucks
b) he is very very close to being labeled a BUST if he's not already
c) Ryan Church is better

[NHwildEcat]

Why is everyone harping on average outfielders?

[whitey]

Why is everyone harping on average outfielders?

I'm harping on how much ass Omar Minaya sucks, not on average outfielders. Minaya traded an average outfielder straight up to a DIVISION RIVAL for a BELOW average outfielder.

[UNHWildCats]

Yahoo's Gordon Edes (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ys-tradebuzz072809&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)reports that the Red Sox offered Clay Buchholz, Michael Bowden and Ryan Westmoreland to the Blue Jays for Halladay.

[UNHWildCats]

Red Sox acquire Brian Anderson from White Sox. No word yet on what Chicago got.

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2009/07/red_sox_trade_f.html

[bodoyle]

Mark Kotsay is who we got...and cash.

[UNHWildCats]

Kotsay and cash as bodoyle said... Not sure how much, but Anderson is due about $146,000 over the final two months and Kotsay about $500,000 so it shouldn't end up being too much cash as Chicago is getting the better player.

[UNHWildCats]

LMAO someone on MLBTradeRumors commented saying this means Ellsbury in on the block HAHAHAHAHAHHAA

[OSBF]

Guess BA is finally out of Ozzie's doghouse, waaaaaaay out.

[UNHWildCats]

Guess BA is finally out of Ozzie's doghouse, waaaaaaay out.
not sure what value he gives Boston.. Certainly can be a defensive replacement once rosters expand in September, but aside from that he has no value for Boston.

[UNHWildCats]

Pirates intend to trade Sanchez & Wilson... At this rate they will have traded nearly their entire 2008 opening day roster by the end of this season.

[OSBF]

not sure what value he gives Boston.. Certainly can be a defensive replacement once rosters expand in September, but aside from that he has no value for Boston.

Ozzie didn't think he had much value to the whsox either. Sad, really. The guy had multiple oportunities to prove hisself, but it seemed like no matter what he did he couldn't get Ozzies foot out of his arse, or the Chicago media off his back.

[UNHWildCats]

Giants could be close to landing Freddy Sanchez.

[ISUMatt]

BA brings a hell of a glove to your OF, as for hitting, he stinks...he got the shot in 06 and blew it and everytime he has had a chance to shine, he couldnt hit ober .230...Real nice guy, hopefully works things out, but wont see any MLB time with the Sawx

[UNHWildCats]

Ozzie didn't think he had much value to the whsox either. Sad, really. The guy had multiple oportunities to prove hisself, but it seemed like no matter what he did he couldn't get Ozzies foot out of his arse, or the Chicago media off his back.
best case scenario now for Anderson and Boston is when he gets chances to play he excels in a new environment and Boston turns around and trades him later.

[ISUMatt]

My hockey guy says he has a very reliable source that says unless Philly throws in drabek halladay will go to boston and will not being staying in Toronto

[UNHWildCats]

My hockey guy says he has a very reliable source that says unless Philly throws in drabek halladay will go to boston and will not being staying in Toronto
I think theres something to it. The Red Sox don't generally publicly shoot down rumors, but they are doing so tonight about the Edes report.... So perhaps there is something to it and Theo wanted to quiet it down some until it gets done. Theo hates it when his trade talks get leaked...

[UNHWildCats]

Freddy Sanchez was scratched tonight. He could soon be heading to San Francisco or Minnesota.

[93henfan]

At this point it looks like the Phils and BoSox are the two suitors for Halladay and Lee. It looks like it will boil down to whether or not the Phils will forego the no-trade treatment of Kyle Drabek. If they do, I'd guess Halladay will be a Phil and Lee a BoSock (sp). If not, vice versa.

[bodoyle]

Pirates intend to trade Sanchez & Wilson... At this rate they will have traded nearly their entire 2008 opening day roster by the end of this season.

Please trade my friend Garrett Jones to the White Sox! We need a replacement for Konerko soon.

[bodoyle]

Ozzie didn't think he had much value to the whsox either. Sad, really. The guy had multiple oportunities to prove hisself, but it seemed like no matter what he did he couldn't get Ozzies foot out of his arse, or the Chicago media off his back.

As good as he was with the glove, when you hit .220 something it doesn't help.

[TexasTerror]

Big acquisition...BUD NORRIS will be joining the Astros! Most highly touted Astros pitching prospect in some time...

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bb/6551956.html

[UNHWildCats]

Seattle's Jeff Clement was pulled in the 3rd inning of his minor league game tonight.

Ryan Divish a reporter for The News Tribune (http://blogs.thenewstribune.com/mariners/2009/07/28/jeff_clement_removed_from_rainiers_game_) says Clement isnt injured and isnt sick. Clement could be part of a trade or may have been called up to replace a traded player.

One would assume the former as Clement wouldn't be needed until tomorrows game. Tacoma was playing in Nevada tonight but even if he got a flight after the game he would get to Seattle with plenty of time to spare for tomorrows game.

While Seattle is unlikely to be a buyer regardless of what they say, and Clement doesnt fit the mold of a player a team would target for help at the deadline, Seattle could be involved as a third team for a trade.

One possibility could be a deal between Boston and San Diego involving Adrian Gonzalez. Catcher is one position San Diego wants to get a player in return for and Boston doesn't match up well there.

Under this scenerio Boston would likely send prospects to both Seattle and San Diego while Seattle sends Clement to San Diego and Boston gets Gonzalez.

[bodoyle]

Report that the Sox have repeatedly inquired about Dan Haren from AZ and would give up 2-4 prospects including Clayton Richard and Aaron Poreda. Beckham would not be included. He can't be included until after August 12th and he would have to be moved to the minors before that and put in as a "player to be named later".

[OSBF]

Report that the Sox have repeatedly inquired about Dan Haren from AZ and would give up 2-4 prospects including Clayton Richard and Aaron Poreda. Beckham would not be included. He can't be included until after August 12th and he would have to be moved to the minors before that and put in as a "player to be named later".

haren=good

There are 3 teams in that division that could be one key acquisition away from winning the division.

[bluehenbillk]

Jason Stark and other sources are saying a deal between the Tribe and the World Champs could be imminent. 3 top prospsects, Carrasco, Marson and Donald are all scratched with no explanation for todays 11am AAA Lehigh Valley game. Cliff Lee coming to Philly???

[UNHWildCats]

MLB.com's Todd Zolecki (http://twitter.com/ToddZolecki/status/2911061216) hears Marson and Donald were scheduled to get the day off.



10:52am: Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9866498/MLB-trade-deadline-buzz:-Wednesday%27s-edition) report that Jason Knapp is the centerpiece of the Phillies' offer for Lee. The Phils, who are also involved in talks for Jarrod Washburn, would also deal other pieces to the Indians.


FOX also reports that the Dodgers were planning on making a "hard push" for Lee today.


http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

[UNHWildCats]

Pirates get Jeff Clement from seattle for Jack Wilson.... so indeed Seattle is buying.... lol

[UNHWildCats]

Kovacevic (http://twitter.com/Dejan_Kovacevic/status/2912445065)says the Mariners acquire Wilson and Ian Snell for Clement, Ronny Cedeno, Aaron Pribanic, Brett Lorin and Nathan Adcock.

[OSBF]

Pirates are heading twords having 2 full AAA teams, just that one of plays in the National League.

[ISUMatt]

i would not mind trading richard and Poreda for Haren!!! Keep Beckham & Mitchell ('09 1st rounder from LSU) and the rest can go LOL

[UNHWildCats]

Ken Rosenthal says a deal between Philly and Cleveland is in place and teams have begun reviewing medical files.

[UNHWildCats]

Cliff Lee and Ben Francisco to Philly for Jason Knapp, Carlos Carrasco, Jason Donald and Lou Marson.

[bodoyle]

Pirates are heading twords having 2 full AAA teams, just that one of plays in the National League.

Hey hey hey my friend is on the Pirates and batting about .320

[93henfan]

Cliff Lee and Ben Francisco to Philly for Jason Knapp, Carlos Carrasco, Jason Donald and Lou Marson.

Phils GM Ruben Amaro, Jr. has been arrested for theft. xlolx

This is great, great news for the World F. Champions.

[UNHWildCats]

Does this trade now take a little leverage away from Toronto? Gotta figure they were hoping Philadelphia wouldnt complete a deal until Friday afternoon.

[UNHWildCats]

Rosenthal says its a "coup" for both teams.

[93henfan]

Does this trade now take a little leverage away from Toronto? Gotta figure they were hoping Philadelphia wouldnt complete a deal until Friday afternoon.

Absolutely. BoSox are now free and clear to try to pry Halladay. Good luck.

I'm glad the Jays have less leverage. Their GM appears to be a royal douche bag.

[whitey]

Does this trade now take a little leverage away from Toronto? .

It has too, unless Riccardi can get another team or two into serious discussions before Friday afternoon.

[UNHWildCats]

Apparently Boston has put their focus on Victor Martinez. If Toronto doesn't move Halladay before the deadline, they will be the biggest losers of the deadline.

[93henfan]

Apparently Boston has put their focus on Victor Martinez. If Toronto doesn't move Halladay before the deadline, they will be the biggest losers of the deadline.

If I were Ruben Amaro, I'd offer the Jays Jamie Moyer for Halladay straight up. And I'd keep a straight face the whole time.

[UNHWildCats]

If I were Ruben Amaro, I'd offer the Jays Jamie Moyer for Halladay straight up. And I'd keep a straight face the whole time.
i dont know what Philly has left, but they might still be able to get a bargain friday afternoon if Boston indeed goes with a bat. Though if Boston can land Martinez without Buchholz they could do both

[gmoney55]

Cliff Lee and Ben Francisco to Philly for Jason Knapp, Carlos Carrasco, Jason Donald and Lou Marson.

Good deal for both teams, Indians get 3 of the top 70 preseason prospects in Baseball America, Phils add the ace and hold onto the two or three guys they wanted to hold on to.

[UNHWildCats]

Reds acquired Wladimir Balentien from the Mariners for righty Robert Manuel.

[UNHWildCats]

Ricciardi now saying he expects Halladay to remain with Toronto and for the team to compete next year?

So Ricciardi, in which alternate dimension are you living? Toronto is no where near close to being competitive with Boston, New York or Tampa Bay

[93henfan]

So Ricciardi, in which alternate dimension are you living?

That has to be the most spoken phrase among MLB GM's this week.

[UNHWildCats]

Having been repeatedly rebuffed in their attempt to deal for San Diego first baseman Adrian Gonzalez, the Sox are focused on talks for Toronto starter Roy Halladay, while continuing to monitor the situation of Cleveland catcher-first baseman Victor Martinez.


The Sox have already had one offer for Halladay rejected. That package was said to be headed by Clay Buchholz and was to have included a number of other highly regarded prospects, including Michael Bowden.


http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox/view.bg?articleid=1187820&srvc=rss

[AshevilleApp2]

And the Tigers apparently do nothing.

[93henfan]

As discussed earlier, those Boston packages have to be looking a little sweeter to the Jays with the Phils out of the running.

[UNHWildCats]

As discussed earlier, those Boston packages have to be looking a little sweeter to the Jays with the Phils out of the running.
yes, especially if Boston is willing to move Buchholz and Bowden in the same package. Both can join the Jays rotation right now, no seasoning needed in the minors.

[UNHWildCats]

Red Sox appear done with Halladay talks. Ricciardi was insisting on Jon Lester and Clay Buchholz as the starting pieces of any deal.

[UNHWildCats]

The Yankees acquired minor league righty Jason Hirsh from the Rockies

[UNHWildCats]

Freddy Sanchez to Giants for AA pitcher Tim Alderson

[UNHWildCats]

Blue Jays trying to get Boston to take Alex Rios contracyt in a Halladay deal... That would lower the return Toronto would get, Boston could bite. Rios is owed $58 million thorugh 2014.

He could give Boston either asomewhat decent insurance policy if Bay leaves or if Bay stays can be an expensive 4th OF until Drew leaves in 2011.

He could also give the Red Sox an insurance policy at DH or replace Ortiz when his deal is up after next season.

If Boston can get Toronto to bite on Rios and Halladay for say Buchholz, Bowden and a lesser prospect gotta go for it.

[UNHWildCats]

Boston and San Diego talked deep into the last night about Gonzalez.

[93henfan]

Today's the day. Will it be a Halladay for the Red Sox, Rangers, Dodgers, Yanks?

[GannonFan]

Today's the day. Will it be a Halladay for the Red Sox, Rangers, Dodgers, Yanks?

At this point you'd be shocked if he moves at all. All indications are that talks are dead concerning Halladay.

[ISUMatt]

Texas was close yesterday but again, Toronto was asking for too much

[UNHWildCats]

Arroyo to Yankees? Stay tuned.

[UNHWildCats]

With the Padres having a very bad system Boston might be able to get away from too many top prospects in Gonzalez deal by including more of their non elite top level guys and mid level guys... Conceivably we could possibly see an 8-1 trade.

[ISUMatt]

I'd bet gonzalez stays we will see

[UNHWildCats]

I'd bet gonzalez stays we will see
with the current qsking price its likely he doesnt go.

Buchholz
Masterson
Lars Anderson
Jed Lowrie
Westmoreland

Ain't no way boston bites on that

[UNHWildCats]

Red Sox will be acquiring Victor Martinez very soon.

[UMass922]

Twins get Orlando Cabrera from the A's for a minor leaguer.

[93henfan]

Red Sox will be acquiring Victor Martinez very soon.

Peter Gammons reporting the same on ESPN. No player names yet. Nice bat for the Sox.

[UNHWildCats]

Still no official word. Apparently Clay Buchholz IS NOT part of the deal, neither is Daniel Bard

[UNHWildCats]

Nick Hagadone is part of the package.

[ISUMatt]

I heard laroche is too

[UNHWildCats]

Justin Masterson reportedly part of the deal.

[UNHWildCats]

I heard laroche is too
if true the full package is likely LaRoche, Masterson and Hagadone, cant imagine giving much more then that for Martinez.

[UNHWildCats]

trade should be announced shortly

[UNHWildCats]

LaRoche apparently not in deal, though Braves appear to be interested in re-acquiring him.

[UNHWildCats]

WBZ is confirming deal. Masterson and Hagadone for Martinez.

[UNHWildCats]

Bowden and Tazawa leading candidates (unless another trade is made) to replace Masterson in the bullpen.

[93henfan]

ESPN: Sox reportedly to part with Masterson, Hagadone, and a prospect.

[UNHWildCats]

WBZ now sourcing Buster Olney... there is one other prospect in the deal, no word yet on who

[UNHWildCats]

Bryan Price the #27 overall rated prospect in the Sox system is the 3rd player.

[93henfan]

Decent deal. The Indians are stockpiling some young pitchers this week!

[UNHWildCats]

Nats taking batting practice, Nick Johnson is not present.

[UNHWildCats]

Cleveland has a Victor Martinez bobblehead giveaway tomorrow..... ooops

[UNHWildCats]

http://web3.twitpic.com/img/20626804-f04b3fe34d20c2343d21c52e62160554.4a7342e3-full.jpg

[UNHWildCats]

Sox have traded LaRoche to Atlanta

[ISUMatt]

Damn does that mean the braves don't want Josh fields

[UNHWildCats]

Yankees get Jerry Hairston Jr

[UNHWildCats]

The Rockies acquired lefty reliever Joe Beimel from the Nationals

[UNHWildCats]

Pittsburgh has made another trade.

[UNHWildCats]

Red Sox got Casey Kotchman for LaRoche

[UNHWildCats]

30 minutes to go

[mcveyrl]

MLB Network says Martinez for Masters, Hagadone and Price

[UNHWildCats]

its Masterson, but ya thats the package and the deal is done.

[UNHWildCats]

With the Sox getting Kotchman, gotta assume yet another deal is coming.

[UNHWildCats]

Rolen traded to Reds

[UNHWildCats]

Yankees sent Austin Jackson to Reds in Hairston deal

[UNHWildCats]

Jonathan Mayo just threw the breaks on the Austin Jackson bit

[UNHWildCats]

Blue Jays will get Edwin Encarnacion and a minor leaguer for Rolen

[UNHWildCats]

Marlins get Johnson

[UNHWildCats]

Chi Sox get Peavy

[UNHWildCats]

ok Peavy trade is in, but its pending Peavys approval

[UNHWildCats]

RHP Adam Russell and LHP Aaron Poreda part of deal

[UNHWildCats]

RHP Jake Peavy from Padres for Clayton Richard and three ML pitchers.

[UNHWildCats]

MLB says its done.

[UNHWildCats]

Richard, Poreda, Adam Russell, Dexter Carter for Peavy

[TheValleyRaider]

Yankees sent Austin Jackson to Reds in Hairston deal


Jonathan Mayo just threw the breaks on the Austin Jackson bit

AJax is one of the top position prospects in the Yankees' system. Bit of an overpayment for Jerry Hairston, I would think xoopsx

Yankees sent Chase Weems, Catcher, from Single-A Charleston

[UNHWildCats]

AJax is one of the top position prospects in the Yankees' system. Bit of an overpayment for Jerry Hairston, I would think xoopsx

Yankees sent Chase Weems, Catcher, from Single-A Charleston
thats what I thought at first, but figured I was confusing him with someone else.

[UNHWildCats]

Roy Oswalt was called into the managers office.....

[93henfan]

Roy Oswalt was called into the managers office.....

For what? A back massage?

[UNHWildCats]

For what? A back massage?
could be a late announced trade, though unlikely because we are not past an hour plus Houston isnt that far out of the WC last I saw.